[ 1) CALL TO ORDER]
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>>> THE FEBRUARY 4TH 2021 REGULAR SESSION OF THE CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL IS CALLED TO ORDER.
COUNCIL PERSON REDD WILL SERVE AS OUR CHAPLAIN.
COUNCIL PERSON HOLLEMAN WILL LEAD THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. COUNCIL PERSON REDD.
>> LET US PRAY. LORD, WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDING PRESENCE AS WE HAVE OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
LORD, WE ASK THAT WE BE HUMBLE AND WE BE RISE WITH OUR DEBATES. LORD, WE WANT TO PRAY FOR ALL OF THOSE IN AUTHORITY. WE WANT TO PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR AND HIS WIFE AND ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.
LORD, WE WANT TO PRAY FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE PASSING OF OUR PAST COUNCIL MEMBER, BILL FORESTER AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY DAVID HANES.
LORD, HELP US BE THAT TYPE OF A CITY THAT IS A SHINING LIGHT ON A HILL. LORD, HELP US REMEMBER PROVERBS 15:1 THAT A SOFT ANSWER TURNETH AWAY WRATH, BUT GRIEVOUS WORDS STIR UP ANSWER.
WE ASK ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THE HOLY AND PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS WE DO PRAY. AMEN.
>> I MEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDERGOD , INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CLARK.
COUNCIL PERSON REDD DO YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED?
>> NO, SIR. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
THE NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF ELECTRONIC MEETING TO COMPLY WITH THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER REGARDS HOLDING OPEN MEETINGS IN A FORUM OTHER THAN IN THE OPEN AND IN THE PUBLIC. THIS GOVERNING BODY DETERMINES THAT MEETING ELECTRONICALLY IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF ITS CITIZENS DUE TO THE COVID-19 OUTBREAK. I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION AND A
>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK?
>> 13 YES. >> MOTION IS ADOPTED.
WE HAVE FEEDBACK. NEXT IS THE PLANNING
[6) PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING]
COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING REPORT.MAYOR PRO TESTIMONY GAVE -- PRO-TEM GARRETT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 9 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS.
>> ORDINANCE 65-2020-21, FIRST READING.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF MARK A.DAVIS, SHANNON OR WILLIAM WILL FORD-AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLD TRENTON ROAD AND WILMA REU -- RUDOLPH BOULEVARD FROM M-2 GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 66- 2020-21. FIRST REELING.
AMENDING OF ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF RICHARD COLLINS, RICHARD GARRETT-AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF COLUMBIA STREET AND BATTS LANE FROM RM-1 SINGLE FAMILY MOBILE HOME RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 67-2020-21. AMENDING ZONING ORDER -- ORDINANCE OF THE MAP OF THE CITY CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION FOR CHARLES NICHOLS CREDIT SHELTER TRUST AND JAMES MAYNARD-AGENT. FROM C-1 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO R-1A SINGLE FAMILY
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RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 68-2020-21, FIRST READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF GUERRIER DEVELOPMENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF BLACKMAN STREET, CHARLOTTE STREET, LAWN STREET FROM R-3, THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.ORDINANCE 69-2020-21. FIRST READING.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF LALANA LEE AND GORDON LEE, MARK HOLLEMAN,-AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF PARADISE HILL ROAD AND HIGHLAND CIRCLE FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 70- 2020-21, FIRST READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION FRANK BRYANT, ALBATROSS PARTNERS OF AGENT FOR THE ZONE CHANGE ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF COLONIAL COURT AND GOLF CLUB LANE FROM R-33 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO C-5 HIGHWAY AND ARTERIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 71-2020-21.
FIRST READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.
APPLICATION OF LUKE BAGGETT AND BOBBIE WALL, SYD HEAD -- HEDRICK-AGENT FOR THE ZONE CHANGE ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF DANIEL STREET AND CENTRAL AVENUE FROM R-33 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. NOT INCLUDED IN TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING, ORDINANCE 52-2020-212TH READING POSTPONED ON JANUARY 7TH, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF FENTRESS BRYANT AND SUK LEE-TENNESSEE COMMUNITY PROPERTY TRUST, REED BALDWIN-AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON THE PROPERTY OF LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD AND LADY MARION DRIVE AND EAST OF WEST FORK CREEK FROM C-5 HIGHWAY AND ARTERIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 61-2020-211TH READING. POSTPONED JANUARY 7TH.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO BULK REGULATIONS, BUILDING SETBACKS, MINIMUM FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER MINOR UPDATES.
>> MAYOR PRO-TEM. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
CAN I-TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOTION MADE AND SECONDED TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING.
WITHOUT OBJECTION WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING.
THE FIRST IS ORDINANCE 65-2020-21.
IT IS AMENDING THE APPLICATION TO MARK A DAVIS.
THERE WERE NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR ORGANS ORDINANCE 65. THE NEXT ITEM IS EYE -- ITEM NUMBER 2, ORDINANCE 66, REZONING THE ORDINANCE AND APPLICATION OF RICHARD COLLINS.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR AND NO REQUEST TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 66. ITEM NUMBER 3, ORDINANCE 67, 2020-21, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF CHARLES NICHOLS CREDIT SHELTER TRUST. THERE HAVE BEEN ONE CITIZEN REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 67.
THAT IS JIM MAYNARD AND I SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN.
MR. MAYNARD, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE APPROACH THE COMPUTER SCREEN AND MICROPHONE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. >> JIM MAYNARD, FAIRWAY DRIVE, CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE. I AM HERE REPRESENTING MS. LINDA NICHOLS AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS
I CAN HELP ANSWER. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYNARD.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 67? HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE, THANK YOU MR. MAYNARD.
WE ARE READY FOR NUMBER 4 ORDINANCE 68-2020-21 AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF GUERRIER DEVELOPMENT.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR AND NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 68. THE NEXT ITEM IS ORDINANCE 69-2020-21 AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF LALANA LEE AND GORDON LEE.
THERE ARE NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR AND NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 69. AND FINALLY ITEM 6, ORDINANCE 70 AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF CLARKSVILLE AND APPLICATION OF FRANK BRYANT.
THERE IS ONE CITIZEN SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 70 AND THAT IS JAMES MILLER. MR. MILLER, IF YOU WOULD
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PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE FIVEMINUTES, SIR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PITTS.
MY NAME IS JAMES MILLER. I GO BY JR MILLER.
I AM THE AGENT FOR ALBATROS PROPERTY.
WE ARE CLEANING UP THE C5 AND R3 TO MAKE READY FOR THE LAND FOR MULTI-FAMILY DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED FOR FUTURE SETBACKS AND GROWTH IN THE AREA. WE WILL ADHERE TO CURRENT RIGHT OF WAYS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
WE WILL WORK WITH THE CLARKSVILLE DEPARTMENT FOR ROAD ACCESS AND SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS.
WE FEEL THERE IS A NEED FOR MULTI FAMILY IN THE AREA AND HOPE YOU WILL FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOR REZONING AND I AM HERE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OF MR. MILLER? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE,
THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. >> THANK YOU.
ITEM 771-2020-21, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF LUKE BAGGETT, ONE PERSON IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.
IT IS A MR. SYD-HEDRICK. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND HAVE YOU FIVE MINUTES, SIR.
>> YES, SIR. I AM SYD-HEDRICK ON HIDDEN MEADOWS DRIVE, ADAMS, TENNESSEE.
I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF A REZONING FROM R3 TO R6 ON CENTRAL AVENUE ON BEHALF OF LUKE BAGGETT.
THE CURRENT AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY SING -- SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WITH HOUSES ON LOTS.
WITH THE CURRENT ZONING AT R3 AND THE SIZE OF THE LOT, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO BUILD A TRI-PLEX.
AND WE FEEL IT IS BETTER TO CONTINUE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES SO WE ARE REZONING TO R-6 WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY ZONING SO WE CAN BUILD SING -- SINGLE FAMILY
HOUSES AND SUBDIVIDE THE LOT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HEDRICK? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE, THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEARING. MAYOR PRO-TEM GARRETT, ARE YOU
RECOGNIZED. >> GOING TO REGULAR SESSION?
>> ANY OBJECTION? SEEING NONE, BACK IN REGULAR SESSION. WE ARE NOW READY FOR MAYOR PRO-TEM -- LET ME PUT MY TEETH IN SO I CAN TALK.
>> ALL MOTIONS UPON THE ADVICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL THAT WILL BE OF APPROVAL. 65-2020-21, BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE.
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. >> SECOND.
>> PROPERLY SECONDED. ORDINANCE 65.
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 65? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I. >> 13 YES.
>> ORDINANCE 65 IS ADOPTED. NEXT READING.
>> THANK YOU. AND AS A POINT OF LEGAL CLARITY IF I CAN HAVE MR. BAKER COME UP TO THE
MR. BAKER? >> IN REFERENCE TO ORDINANCE 66-2020-21 FOLLOWING MY TYPICAL SCRIPT I DON'T FEEL IT WOULD BE PROPER FOR ME TO MAKE A MOTION IN THIS CASE AS I AM THE REALTOR FOR THE APPLICANT.
AS SUCH DO I NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL READ THE ORDINANCE, MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN I ABSTAIN? WOULD THAT BE PROPER FOR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES?
>> MY ADVICE WOULD BE TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING --
[INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU CAN TURN THE MIC
ON THERE. >> MY ADVICE IS THAT YOU DO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING, AND PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE MAKE THE MOTION.
ANY COUNCILMEMBER CAN MAKE IT.
>> OKAY. SO DO I STILL READ IT OR --
>> JUST HAVE SOMEBODY -- CHAIR CAN ENTERTAIN COUNSEL.
>> IT HAS ALREADY BEEN READ SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 66. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 66? HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> AB -- ABSTAIN. >> RICHMOND.
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>> YES. >> 12 YES AND ONE ABSTAIN.
>> 66 IS ADOPTED FIRST READING.
MAYOR PRO TEM GARRETT. >> ORDINANCE 67-2020-21, BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL
AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR ORDINANCE 67.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL RASHING ORDINANCE 67? HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE.
>> 13 YES. >> ORDINANCE 67 IS ADOPTED FIRST READING. THANK YOU.
MAYOR PRO TEM GARRETT. >> ORDINANCE 682020-21 MOVING
FOR APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY 60ED IN ORDINANCE 68.
COUNCIL PERSON REDD? >> I WILL BE ABSTAINING AS I SIT ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION FROM COUNCIL REGARDING ORDINANCE 68? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> I. >> 12 YES AND ONE ABSTAIN.
>> ORDINANCE 68 IS ADOPTED. >> ORDINANCE 69-2020-21, BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL
AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 69.
ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION FROM COUNCIL REGARDING ORDINANCE 69. HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MR. HOL -- HOLLEMAN. >> ABSTAIN.
>> 12 YES AND ONE ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 69 IS ADOPTED FIRST REELING. THANK YOU.
NEXT EYE -- EYE SEEM -- ITEM IS 70.
>> ORDINANCE 70-2020-21 STAFFING RECOMMENDATION FOR
APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 70.
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE SNEFT HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>> 13 YES. >> ORDINANCE 70 IS ADOPTED
FIRST READING. >> ORDINANCE 71-2020-21, BOTH THE STAFF AND -- RECOMMENDATION FOR UH.
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
DO MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTION OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE.
>> 13 YES. >> ORDINANCE 71 IS ADOPTED
FIRST READING. >> MAYOR PRO-TEM, YOU CAN
HANDLE THE OTHER TWO. >> WE HAVE ORDINANCE 52-2020-21, BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS
FOR APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 52.
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING
ORDINANCE 52? >> THIS IS THE SECOND
READING. >> THIS IS THE SECOND READING. SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE
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>> 11 YES AND 2 NO. >> ORDINANCE 52 IS ADOPTED
SECOND READING. >> AND LASTLY WE HAVE ORDINANCE 61-2020-21. BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE.
>> MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 61? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE? THIS IS FIRST READING.
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> 13 YES. >> ADOPTED FIRST READING MAYOR
PRO-TEM GARRETT. >> THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
>> GOOD REPORT. THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT ITEM IS THE INTRODUCTION OF NOMINEES TO THE ETHICS
[7) INTRODUCTION OF NOMINEES FOR ETHICS COMMISSION]
COMMISSION. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE LONG AWAITED LIST OF NOMINEES TO SERVE ON OUR CITY'S ETHICS COMMISSION HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.THEY HAVE MET THE QUALIFICATION AND UPSTANDING CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BYWAY OF VIDEO. EACH ONE WILL SPEAK AND YOU CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT NOMINEE. THE FIRST PERSON THAT IS UP AND WE WILL TAKE THEM ALPHABETICALLY AND IT IS ANTHONY ALFRED. BISHOP ALFRED, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WE WILL ASK COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL I AM BISHOP ANTHONY ALFRED AND I AM A GREAT CITIZEN OF THE GREAT CITY OF CLARKSVILLE. GLAD TO BE HERE AND HOPE TO BE
ABLE TO SERVE. >> THANK YOU, BISHOP ALFRED.
COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
>> YES. HOW ARE YOU DOING BISHOP
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU WANT TO SERVE ON THE ETHICS
AFTER BEING IN THE MILITARY FOR 32 YEARS AND BEING A PASTOR, SOMETIMES YOU NEED A BALANCE.
YOU NEED PEOPLE THAT CAN EDUCATE AND HELP DECISIONS AND MOVE THINGS ALONG WHEN THERE MAY BE A QUESTION ABOUT ETHICS. BEING A NEUTRAL PERSON AND BRINGING WISDOM AND I LOVE THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROCEED FORWARD AND I THINK I CAN OFFER MY EXPERIENCE TO
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON SMITH.
WE ARE NOW READY FOR Y -- SUZANNE MARSH.
MS. MARSH, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? MS. WILSON, IS SHE THERE? YOU ARE MUTED, MS. MARSH.
>> DR. -- THERE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MS. MARSH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COUNCIL.
>> I AM SUZANNE MARSH AND AN ATTORNEY HERE LOCALLY.
I HAVE LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY NOW FOR 28 YEARS.
I AM AN AUSTIN P GRADUATE. I AM WILLING TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS A CIVIC DUTY AND OBLIGATION TO SERVE WHERE YOU CAN. I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT'S ALL I GUESS I COULD ADD
TO IT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, MS. MARSH. ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. MARSH? COUNCIL PERSON SMITH YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> HELLO, MS. MARSH.
HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD, THANK YOU.
>> YOU SAID -- ARE YOU A SIT -- CITIZEN HERE FOR HOW LONG? IS THIS YOUR HOME?
WERE YOU BORN HERE? >> MY PARENTS LIVED HERE WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. I AM AN AUSTIN P GRADUATE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE PRACTICING LAW SINCE 1992.
I THINK THAT'S ABOUT 28 YEARS OR SO.
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN BE NEUTRAL WHEN DEALING WITH CASES THAT COME TO THE ETHICS COMMITTEE?
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>> I CAN SEE NO REASON THAT I WOULD NOT BE.
>> OKAY. >> I HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN IT. HAVE I NO KNOWLEDGE OTHER THAN WHAT I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER WHICH IS WHAT ANYBODY WOULD
SEE. >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN --
[INAUDIBLE]. >> GOING BACK IN TIME I MET MAYOR PITTS MAYBE IN CHAMBERS LONG BEFORE -- LONG AGO, BEFORE HE WAS MAYOR PITTS. IT WAS DECADES AGO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SMITH. THANK YOU, MS. MARSH.
>> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT NOMINEE IS MARK RASSIS. ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
>> I AM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR
ME OR NOT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE CAN HEAR YOU. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
>> MY NAME IS MARK RASIS AND I AM AN ATTORNEY AND I PRACTICE, HARD TO BELIEVE, 45 YEARS AND I AM BATTLING COVID.
MY FATHER WAS A LONG-TERM MEMBER OF THE AVIATION COMMITTEE. I SERVED ON THE CHARTER COMMISSION. I SERVED IN THE MILITARY ACTIVE RESERVE FOR 32 YEARS. I SERVED ON THE HEARING FOR THE BOARD OF RESPONSIBILITY. I WAS AN ETHICS ADVISER FOR THE COMMAND. BECAUSE OF MY SECURITY CLEARANCE I WAS ABLE TO DO SOME HIGH RESOLUTION ETHICS COMPLAINTS. I WAS ASKED TO DO THIS AND I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T DE -- DENY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I
WILL TRY TO ANSWER. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU,
COUNCIL PERSON SMITH. >> HOW ARE YOU DOING MR.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I ATE MY DINNER WHILE I WAS WAWMPING -- WATCHING YOU GUYS DO THE RESOLUTION.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN MAYOR PITTS?
>> MAYOR PITTS WAS WITH THE INDUSTRIAL BOARD -- HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS THAT? I REPRESENTED ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE INDUSTRIAL BOARD.
SO I HAVE KNOWN HIM AS AN ACQUAINTANCE, BUT NO DEALINGS
PROFESSIONALLY OR PERSONALLY. >> YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN HIS
ATTORNEY BEFORE OR ANYTHING? >> NO, I NEVER HAVE.
>> DID YOU SERVE FOR THE CITY?
>> I'M SORRY? I HAVE NEVER REPRESENTED THE
I'M SORRY. >> I SAID I NEVER REPRESENTED THE CITY. I HAVE SUED THE CITY.
>> YOU SUED THE CITY? [LAUGHTER].
THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST. I LOVE THAT.
I LOVE THAT. NOT THAT I LOVE THAT YOU SUED US, BUT IT WAS A GOOD ANSWER. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU MR. RASIS. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH -- YOU SAID YOU SUED THE CITY AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
THIS COMMISSION IS A COMMISSION THAT IS VERY, TO ME, COMMUNITY DRIVEN. SO IT IS MORE AVERAGE, EVERYDAY PEOPLE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR CITY TO SEE WHAT THE COMMON PERSON WOULD SAY.
I SEE YOUR RESUME AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT IS BEAUTIFUL. HOW DO YOU TAKE THAT AND PUT IT INTO THAT COMMON LANGUAGE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND? HOW DO YOU LOOK AT IT WITH AN OBJECTIVE EYE?
>> THE MAJORITY OF MY PRACTICE IS REGULAR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CLARKSVILLE. MY FATHER WAS A LAWYER HERE FOR 50 YEARS. HE SAYS IF YOUR CLIENT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND YOU YOU ARE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB.
HE SAID IF EVERYTHING DID A -- DID THE RIGHT THING YOU WOULD BE OUT OF A JOB. WE HAVE A LOT OF SECURITY IN THE LEGAL PROFESSION BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T DO THE RIGHT THINGS. I AM GONNA DO MY BEST TO BE NEUTRAL AND START FROM A BALANCED SCALE AND LISTEN TO THE FACTS AND MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. RASIS, THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME EXPINT IN SERVING.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT COMPLETES THE INTRODUCTION OF THE NOMINEES AND WE WILL GET TO THEM AT THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[8) CONSENT AGENDA]
MADAM CLERK, WE READY FOR THE CONCEPT AGENDA.>> ALL ITEMS IN THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND MAY BE APPROVED BY ONE MOTION.
HOWEVER, A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MAY REQUEST THAT AN ITEM BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION UNDER THE
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APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE REPORT. ORDINANCE 55-2020-21, SECOND READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF REDA HOME BUILDERS, INC. REDA HOME BUILDERS IN CORP OPERATED-AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF PROVIDENCE BOULEVARD AND SHELBY STREET FROM R-3 THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.ORDINANCE 56-2020-21, SECOND READING.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF EAGLES BLUFF PARTNERSHIP FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT EAST OF WHIT FIELD ROAD AND SOUTH OF TRACY LANE FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 57-2020-21.
SECOND READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF JEFF ROBINSON, CODY DAHL-AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF MCCLURE STREET AND WEST OF NORTH SECOND STREET, EAST OF NORTH 1ST STREET AND NORTH OF BOGARD LANE FROM R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, O-1 OFFICE DISTRICT AND H-1 OVERLAY TO CBD CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, H-1 OVERLAY CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 58-2020-21, SECOND READING.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF SL ENDEAVORS, MICHA STAIR, LUKE STAIR, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH FRONTAGE OF CALDWELL LANE AND THE EAST FRONTAGE OF ROBERT STREET FROM R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 50 FINE-2020-21, SECOND READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.
APPLICATION OF MSI HOMES, SHAWN BETTER THANKER-AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MONROE STREET AND EDMONDSON FERRY ROAD FROM R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-3, THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 60-2020-21, SECOND READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF LC SIMPSON AND OTHERS, NORMA S JONES, GREEN SPACE PARTNERS-AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLD RUSSELLVILLE PIKE AND FANTASY LANE AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLD RUSSELLVILLE PIKE AND CANDLE WOOD DRIVE FROM M-2 GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, R-5 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
RESOLUTION 48-2020-21, APPROVING UH POINT MEBTS TO THE AIRPORT LIAISON COMMITTEE, AUDIT COMMITTEE, DESIGNATIONS COMMITTEE, ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, ETHICS COMMISSION, POWER BOARD , PUBLIC BUILDING AUTHORITY AND TREE BOARD AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES JANUARY 5TH, JANUARY 7TH, JANUARY 14TH AND JANUARY 25TH.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MOTION.
>> AND PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, DO
YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? >> YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ORDINANCE 60-2020-21 OUT OF THE CONSENT
AGENDA. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT IS PROPER. WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL DO THAT. COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE ETHICS COMMISSION NOMINATIONS
TO BE CONSIDERED. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL DO THAT COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
>> I WAS GOING TO DO THE SAME THING.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE WHOLE RESOLUTION WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED FOR THE APPOINTMENTS. ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER MEMBER WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? WITH THOSE EXCEPTIONS, MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE.
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>> ADOPTED AND WE WILL TAKE UP ORDINANCE 60 AND RESOLUTION 48 UNDER NEW BUSINESS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[9) FINANCE COMMITTEE]
WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT.CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN -- I'M SORRY.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, DID YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ORDINANCE 54-2020-21 AND GO OVER THAT AT
THE END OF THE AGENDA. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SO YOUR
MOTION WOULD BE -- >> JUST TO MOVE IT DOWN TO THE
BOTTOM OF THE AGENDA. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
>> MOTION TO TABLE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE END. OKAY.
SECONDED. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS DO YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? GO AHEAD.
>> I WOULD JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE IS A FEW OTHER MOTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, THIS ONE IN FRONT OF BECAUSE WHAT WE DECIDE ON THIS MOTION WILL DETERMINE HOW WE VOTE ON THE NEW BUSINESS OF THE ORDINANCE FOR -- I'M SORRY, THE LONG-TERM LEASE AND AMENDING THE LEASE AGREEMENT. THOSE WOULD BE NULL AND VOID IF WE DON'T PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THOSE IN THAT ORDER.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, YOU ARE REC
COG EASY INTOED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
FOR ME PART OF IT IS I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE LEASES FIRST BECAUSE THE LEASES PRE-DATE THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER A LEASE AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE IRON OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS IN REGARDS TO THE LEASE PRIOR TO AGREEING TO THE PURCHASE.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO TABLE IT SO WE CAN HAVE A LEASE
DISCUSSION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION IS TO MOVE TO TABLE THE ORDINANCE TO THE END OF THE AGENDA. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? IT HAS BEEN SECONDED.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ON. COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT -- I'M SORRY COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS WERE YOU FINISHED?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON KNIGHT? >> I THINK COUNCIL PERSON
STREETMAN -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WELL HAVE
I IT ON THE BOARD. >> WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO DISCUSS WHATEVER WE NEED TO DISCUSS OR PULL THIS TO THE END, BUT WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. SO IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AND MAKE THE DISCUSSION AS REQUIRED WHILE WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. IT DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE BY MOVING IT OR TABLING IT TO THE END.
THAT IS MY TAKE ON THAT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MR. BAKER,
DO YOU WISH TO WEIGH IN? >> SO, JUST REMEMBER, AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE LEASE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED.
THE LEASE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT PRESUMES -- ASSUMES THAT THE CITY WILL -- DOES OWN THE PROPERTY.
KEEP IN MIND ORDINANCE 54 DOES NOT PASS, THEN THAT APPROVAL OF THAT LEASE AGREEMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED YET BY EITHER PARTY WILL JUST BE NULL AND VOID BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE A GRO -- GRANTOR OF A LEASE OR A LEASE AGREEMENT IF YOU DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, AND THAT IS THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN.
ON THE TABLE MOTION, THE TABLE MOTION HAS TO -- YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON WHETHER TO TABLE IT.
AND THEN IN ORDER TO PULL IT OFF THE TABLE THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER PROCEDURAL MOTION TO PULL IT FROM THE TABLE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BAKER.
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. BEING THIS IS THE SECOND READING AND IT IS THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, I THINK IT SHOULD STAY WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY, AND I ALSO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PREVIOUS SPEAKERS IN THAT THIS WOULD NEED TO BE DECIDED FIRST BEFORE WE SPEND TIME DISCUSSING THE OTHER ITEMS. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN.
COUNCIL PERSON REDD, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
IS THIS ON THE MOTION? >> YEAH.
IF THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT PASS, ALL OF THE OTHER
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ORDER -- ORDINANCES ARE A MUTE ISSUE.IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF ORDINANCE 54 NOW. ESPECIALLY -- THERE IS NO SENSE IN LOOKING AT THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IF THIS BODY IS NOT GONNA PASS THE ORDINANCE.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE SPONSOR OF WANTING TO TABLE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION, IF IT IS OKAY.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MOTIONED AND
SECONDED. >> YOU CAN WITHDRAWAL.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HE CAN WITHDRAW? HANG ON. IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOTIONED AND PROPERLY SECONDED, SO IT IS IN FRONT OF US.
LEETS A PROCEED. LET'S PROCEED.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, DO YOU WISH TO ADD FURTHER?
>> I DO. THE ARGUMENT OF WHY TALK ABOUT THE LEASE BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE PURCHASE IS WE HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LEASE AND WE VOTED ON IT ONCE IN REFERENCE TO THE LEASE BEFORE VOTING TO COMPLETE THE PURCHASE. THAT'S HOW WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHING IT SO FAR AND I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH ALLOWING US TO HASH OUT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SOLID LEASE IF PLACE. FOR ME THAT WILL BE THE DETERMINING FACTOR ON HOW I VOTE IN RELATION TO THE PURCHASING OF THE BUILDING. I JUST ASK FOR THAT COURTESY.
WE STARTED WITH THE LEASE AND SO LET'S REVISIT THE LEASE AND GET THE LEASE TOGETHER AND WE WILL KNOW -- WELL, FOR ME WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE.
WITH THE ROXY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I WOULD AGREE, BUT WHY GO THROUGH THE HASSLE AND THE TIME OF PURCHASING A LEASE IF WE WON'T PURCHASE THE PROPERTY SO MAYBE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I PREFER WE KEEP IT IN THIS ORDER, BUT WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND IN FRONTED -- IN FRONT OF US. COUNCIL PERSON HOLLEMAN.
>> >> ORDINANCE 54 IS LIKE -- THAT'S THE BIG ONE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON BEFORE HASHING UP THE SMALL DETAILS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? WE ARE ON THE MOTION TO TABLE OR MOVE THAT ORDINANCE TO THE END. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOTION TO TABLE OR MOVE ORDINANCE 54 TO THE END. MADAM CLERK.
TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION FAILS AND WE ARE BACK TO YOU, COUNCIL -- EXCUSE ME CHAIRPERSON.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT BEFORE I BEGIN I WANT TO CLARIFY --
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: LET ME ASK YOU FIRST TO MAKE THE MOTION.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ORDINANCE 54-2020 FOR THE AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT FOR PURCHASE OF ROXY REGIONAL THEATER PROPERTY.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR ORDINANCE 54. AND NOW COUNCIL PERSON
STREETMAN. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PURCHASE, BUT BEFORE I BEGIN I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I WORK FOR F AND M BANK AND ROXY PRODUCTION INK INK STATED THAT F AND M IS A LIENHOLDER ON THE PROPERTY AS WE HEARD TONIGHT.
LONG BEFORE I BECAME A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL AND EMPLOYEE OF THE BANK, THE BANK MADE A LOAN TO A BUSINESS THAT OWNS A PIECE OF REAL ESTATE AND THAT BUSINESS MAKES PAYMENTS TO F AND M BANK TO REPAY THEIR LOAN WHICH IS SECURED BY REAL ESTATE THROUGH THE BUSINESS. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE CITY PURCHASES THE PROPERTY OR NOT, THE BANK IS GOING TO GET REPAID. IN FACT, IF THE CITY DOESN'T, THE BANK GETS PAID MORE BECAUSE INTEREST WILL CONTINUE TO ACCRUE ON IT. I HAVE NO DIRECT OR INDIRECT INTEREST IN THIS TRANSACTION. F AND M BANK IS A FEDERALLY INSURED BANKING INSTITUTION AND ANY LOANS THEY MAKE ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH EXISTING LAW IN THE ORDINARY COURSE OF BUSINESS OF MAKING LOANS. I AM NOT A LENDER AND PAYMENT I RECEIVE AS SALARY FROM F AND M IS NOT AFFECTED BY THIS LOAN. NOW, IN REGARD TO THE
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ORDINANCE ITSELF, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A BENEFICIAL PURCHASE FOR THE CITY TO UNDERTAKE. WE KNOW THE LOVE THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS FOR THE ROXY. I HAVE GOTTEN NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS, E-MAILS AS I'M SURE MANY HAVE IN SUPPORT OF THE PURCHASE. THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT BELIEVE HAVING A PERFORMANCE ARTS CENTER IN OUR DOWNTOWN WOULD NOT ONLY CONTINUE TO HELP REVITALIZE IT, BUT WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE LIVE THEATER.I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HEARD SOME MENTION THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, BUT I SAYS -- AS A SUPPORTER OF THE PARKS IN THE COMMUNITY, A HEAVY SUPPORTER OF THEM, I ALSO KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T GO AND PLAY IN PARKS AND DON'T PLAY SOCCER AND DON'T PLAY BASKETBALL, BUT YET THEY DO LOVE TO GO SEE THEATER AND BE A PART OF IT. I THINK THAT HAVING THIS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND IN THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
ANYTHING WITH HEART IT PUMPS IT IN AND PUMPS IT OUT.
WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE ROXY TALK ABOUT A LARGE PORTION OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO SEE PLAYS THERE OR COME TO SEE EVENTS THERE ARE FROM OUT OF TOWN WHICH MEANS WE ARE BRINGING IN DOLLARS FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT ARE SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS NOT JUST OUR COMMUNITY GIVING MONEY, BUT IT IS BRINGING MONEY IN FROM THE OUTSIDE AS WELL. I THINK THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
THIS HAS BEEN IN THE PLANS FOR 10 YEARS.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD AND SEE IT BECOME A REALITY. IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS OR ITEMS TO DISCUSS, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE HAVE A LIST. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, YOU
I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE CITIZENS FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT. I HAVE ALSO GOTTEN SEVERAL E-MAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS AND PHONE CALLS.
MANY SHARING STORIES OF HOW THEY ATTENDED PLAYS AS A CHILD AND NOW THEIR CHILDREN ARE INVOLVED IN THE THEATER.
I ATTENDED THE PRESENTATION BY ROXY INC. AND SPOKE TO MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE FOR MORE INFORMATION. I ORIGINALLY HAD QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE DETAILS OF THE $180,000 ALLOTTED TO THE ROXY AND THE PURCHASE PRICE OF $810 FOR THE LOT AND BUILDING WHICH HAS A LIEN ESTIMATING $685,000.
MY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
I WOULD SAY THAT IN THE FUTURE AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON I WILL ASK FOR MORE CLARITY IN TRANSACTIONS AND TRANS PARN SEE IN -- TRANSPARENCY IN TRANSACTIONS BECAUSE IT TOOK SOME PUSHING AND DIGGING TO GET SOME OF MY ANSWERS.
I INITIALLY ASKED FOR ONE YEAR, THREE YEAR, FIVE-YEAR PLAN. DID NOT HAVE ONE COMPLETED.
SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS EXPRESSED CONCERN AND WE DID NOT HAVE AN APPROVED DISOIN -- DESIGN.
I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS UNTIL WE OWN THE PROPERTY. I DON'T FEEL THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF OUR MONEY. ONCE THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CITY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE PLANS. I HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE OVERSIGHT DURING ALL PHASES OF THE CONSTRUCTION. AND WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER ON STAFF THAT WILL OVERSEE THE PROCESS.
CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF CITIZEN CONCERNS FOR THIS PROJECT, I EXPECT THAT WE GET REGULAR UPDATES REGARDING THE BUDGET OF THE BUILDING AND OF THE EVENT CENTER -- I'M SORRY. THE PERFORMING ART CENTER.
EXCUSE ME. I DO ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LEASE WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED LATER THIS EVENING. I WILL BE VOTING TO PURCHASE.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS. COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE ROXY IS A STAPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND A LANDMARK OF CLARKSVILLE.
AND PRETTY MUCH A PIECE OF CLARKSVILLE HISTORY.
I TALKED ABOUT INDIVIDUALS WITHIN MY WARD AND THE MAJORITY HAVE BEEN FOR IT. HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP A PIECE OF CLARKSVILLE HERE AND TO KEEP IT FROM BEING DESTROYED. MOST OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS I HEARD WAS A WORRY ABOUT OVERSIGHT AND WORRY ABOUT WHERE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING.
HERE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE THIS ON AND WE CAN THEN OVERSIGHT AND WE CAN THEN HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND WE CAN SEE WHERE OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING.
THIS IS THE MAJOR PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
WE CAN PULL THIS IN AND WE CAN HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY ON THE ROXY. IT WILL BRING IN TAX DOLLARS AND ASSIST WITH PROJECTS LIKE ROADS AND SIDEWALKS.
ALL OF THE PROJECTS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SINCE THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN ON
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THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING.WE HAVE BEEN HEARING WE WANT SIDEWALKS AND ROADS.
HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE REVENUE TO PUT TOWARDS THOSE PROJECTS. I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT.
COUNCIL PERSON HOLLEMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> YES. PEOPLE AROUND MY WARD, THE MAJORITY OF THEM, STRONG MAJORITY OF THEM, ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. IT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR 10 YEARS. YOU DON'T REALLY REALIZE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW STEW -- TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE CITY. IT WILL ENCOURAGE GROWTH AND GENERATE REVENUE AND ADD JOBS.
WE WILL HAVE A BUILDING THAT WILL LAST GENERATIONS.
IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT. I MEAN, WITH THE IMPACT CENTER AND THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN, THE WHOLE DYNAMIC WILL CHANGE FOR THE BETTER.
I REALLY DON'T SEE ANY NEGATIVES AS FAR AS LONG-TERM GROWTH, ESPECIALLY THE WAY CLARKSVILLE IS GROWING.
DOWNTOWN IS THE HEART OF THE CITY.
A STRONG DOWNTOWN IS HAVING A STRONG HEART FOR THE CITY.
I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON HOLLEMAN.
COUNCIL PERSON EVANS, YOU ARE REC COG EASY INTOED.
>> THANK YOU -- RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WANT TO STATE THAT I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND HAVE ALWAYS HAD A PASSION FOR THE ARTS AND THE FINE ARTS. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE THAT GOVERNMENT HAS IN PRESERVING THE ARTS AND CULTURE. I JUST WANT TO SAY GROWING UP MY GRAND PARENTS WOULD TAKE ME TO SHOWS TO OUR LOCAL PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IN CEDAR RAPIDS.
I HAVE A LOT OF FOND MEMORIES FROM THAT I UH -- ATTRIBUTE A LOT OF MY APPRECIATION FOR FINE ARTS AND CULTURES THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE MY GRANDPARENTS WERE ABLE TO GIVE ME AT OUR PERFORMING ART CENTER.
I JUST WANT THE YOUNG FOLKS OF CLARKSVILLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCES THAT I DID.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON EVANS. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> FIRST AND NO, SIR -- FIRST AND FOREMOST I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SENT TEXTS AND E-MAILS AND MADE PHONE CALLS TO ME.
IT WAS A LOT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO STAY INVOLVED IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND WHAT GOES ON HERE AT CITY COUNCIL, EVEN WHEN IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT. I TOLD THEM THAT IN ALL OF MY REPLIES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE THING RESOUNDINGLY CLEAR. MY VOTE TONIGHT IS NOT AGAINST THE ROXY. IT IS A VOTE FOR WARD 12.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> SO, I GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THE ROXY ALSO.
I ALSO HAD A VERY ENLIGHTENING CONVERSATION WITH MR. RYAN BUOY. I TOOK SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING WHEN WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
A COUPLE DAYS LATER I CALLED HIM BECAUSE I HAD MADE UP MY MIND. THIS WAS THE WAY MY MIND WAS MADE UP. I AM GOING TO VOTE TO PURCHASE THE ROXY TODAY. AND THAT IS WHERE IT ENDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERFORMING CENTER LOOKS LIKE -- THE PERFORMING ART CENTER LOOKS LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PLANS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK WE WILL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT. I AM A SUPPORTER OF THE ARTS, BUT WE SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT AN ICONIC BUILDING THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO BE GONE, BUT THEN THE NEXT MINUTE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, TO ME WE COULD HAVE THE ROXY IN ITS WHOLE ICONIC STATE WHERE CHILDREN CAN GO AND SEE THE ARTS.
WHERE PEOPLE CAN STILL GO AND HAVE THAT ARTS -- THOSE ARTS.
HOWEVER, A PERFORMING ART CENTER IS VERY DIFFERENT.
I UNDERSTAND WE DO NOT WANT TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES, BUT WE DO WANT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP US.
I AM TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.
THE MAYOR SAID ONE DAY AND I SAID IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THAT WE DO STUDY AFTER STUDY AFTER STUDY AND THEY ARE ALL SITTING ON THE SHELF. WE SPENT TENS OF THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THEM. YES, I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE ROXY TODAY.
HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I SEE IT AS THE CLARKSVILLE PERFORM -- PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I AGREE WITH THE LEASE.
I AM VOTING FOR THIS ONE THING.
WE HAVE LUMPED IT ALTOGETHER AND IT COULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
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COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL LET ME SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN A HARD CHOICE FOR ME.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE CITIZENS AND THE CONSTITUENTS WHO INCLUDE THE ROXY BOARD MEMBERS AND THE STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED EXPLANATION OF THE ROXY.
I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THE PHONE CALLS AND THE E-MAILS AND THE LETTERS. I READ EVERY ONE OF THEM FROM BOTH SIDES. THEY PROVIDED PRO'S AND CON'S ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF THE ROXY.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A DEMOCRACY AT WORK.
HISTORY IS REACHED. IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD HISTORY FOR SOME PEOPLE. HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE 2020 STATISTICS OF THE WALLET HUB.COM, GLOUCESTER IS LISTED AS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, RANKING 151 IN NUMBER. WITH THIS I DID MORE RESEARCH AS WELL AS LOOKED BACK AT MY PROPOSAL FOR DOWNTOWN CLARKSVILLE WHEN I RAN FOR COUNCIL IN 2014.
WHICH SUGGESTS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A HUGE DOWNTOWN CONFERENCE CENTER TO BRING IN REVENUE TO THE CITY AND TO SUPPORT THE SMALL BUSINESSES WITH THE HEAVY FLOW OF TRAFFIC OF SHOPPERS AND VISITORS TO MAKE DOWNTOWN CLARKSVILLE ALIVE AND VIBRANT AND THE WHAT'S HAPPENING PLACE TO BE.
THEREFORE, IF THE CITY APPROVES THAT WE WILL HAVE GREAT MANAGEMENT AND GREAT LEADERSHIP AND BE INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE AND HIGH IN PRACTICES.
AND MOST OF ALL SUSPEND A LEAN, GREEN FINANCIAL STATUS THAT COULD BE A TREASURE FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU, AND I HOPE YOU ALL WILL JOIN ME AS I VOTE FOR THIS TREASURE THAT WILL COME TO CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE ONE DAY. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN -- COUNCIL PERSON
IS THIS ON? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS ON.
>> JUST A POINT OF CLARITY FOR MR. BAKER, PERHAPS.
COULD YOU HELP WALK US THROUGH HOW THE VOTE HERE WOULD IMPACT ANOTHER AREA, SPECIFICALLY IN REFERENCE TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT? I'M STILL A LITTLE UNCLEAR AS THE WHOLE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
>> SO IF THIS ORDINANCE PASSES, I BELIEVE IT IS THE SECOND READING AND THE MAYOR WILL BE AUTHORIZED TO GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE THE NECESSARY CONTRACTS TO INCLUDE THE DEED -- ACTUALLY IT WILL BE THE ROXY PRODUCTIONS INK INK WILL BE INCLUDING THE DEED. I BELIEVE THERE IS A CLOSING DATE FOR -- ACTUALLY I THINK WE MAY HAVE MISSED IF -- MISSED IT. IS IT THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY? THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WHAT THIS DOES IS AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY.
THEN LATER IN THIS MEETING THERE ARE -- MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THERE IS MULTIPLE PROPOSE -- PROPOSALS TO REVISIT THE LEASE. THERE IS AT LEAST ONE I KNOW OF TO REQUEST THE MAYOR AND TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SEEK AMENDMENTS TO THE LEASE. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO JUST PASS SOMETHING TONIGHT THAT AMENDS THE LEASE UNILATERALLY. I MEAN, IN ORDER TO AMEND THE LEASE, THE OTHER SIDE HAS TO AGREE TO IT.
WHAT YOU CAN DO TONIGHT IS TO PASS AMENDMENTS, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE LEASE, AND THEN THE MAYOR, AND HE PROBABLY MAY GET ME TO DO IT, WILL DEAL WITH THEIR LAWYER AND WE'LL TRY TO WORK OUT -- GET THEM TO AGREE TO THE AMENDMENTS YOU WANT TO SEE. I BELIEVE -- I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT, BUT I BELIEVE THEY WILL AGREE IN GOOD FAITH BECAUSE THEY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. FROM THE AMENDMENTS I HAVE SEEN I THINK THEY WILL CERTAINLY AGREE, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT COUNCILMEMBER SMITH IS SEEKING DEALING WITH INCLUSIVENESS AND DIVERSITY. I THINK THEY WILL AGREE TO THAT EFFECT. THAT'S THE PROCEDURE.
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YOU BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEN YOU CAN SEEK AMENDMENTS TO THE LEASE. THEY WILL HAVE TO AGREE TOTHEM. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON RICHMOND? >> SO A YES VOTES FOR THE PURCHASE PUTS US ON THE LEASE AS IS?
>> IT PUTS US IN CONVERSATION ABOUT AMENDING THE LEASE LATER
TONIGHT? >> THE CITY COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED A LEASE. THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE LEASE THAT ALLOWS THE PARTIES TO AMEND IT IN WRITING, BUT THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO IT TOGETHER.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU -- AND THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THEY WILL AGREE TO ANYTHING. I SUGGEST TO YOU I THINK THEY WILL. THEY WANT THIS PROJECT TO MOVE
FORWARD. >> SO IF THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T
AGREE -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IF YOU WOULD SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE.
>> SORRY. IF THE PARTIES CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE LEASE OPTION, DOES THAT -- WHERE
DOES THAT LEAVE US? >> WELL, BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THE MAYOR COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. IT IS WHRAW -- LAW NOW.
BEFORE IT IS SIGNED THE COUNCIL CAN SEEK TO UNDO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN -- I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE THE LEASE -- THE APPROVAL OF THE LEASE IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE TO IT THOUGH.
>> OKAY. I THINK IT IS CLEAR AS MUD.
>> WELL, I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT BETTER.
>> I THINK I'M THERE. I THINK I'M THERE.
I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO REVERSE THE ORDER OF CONVERSATION SO THAT THAT WOULD BE A BIT CLEARER.
THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON LITTLE, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I THINK CLARIFYING -- THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR REACHING OUT. THEY WERE VERY PRO ACTIVE AND EVERYTHING. PEOPLE LOVE THE ROXY.
I LOVE THE ROXY. REALLY, HONESTLY, WHEN I THINK ABOUT CLARKSVILLE ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT POP IN MY HEAD IS THE ROXY. I AM ON BOARD WITH PURCHASING THE PROPERTY. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEASE, BUT AS FAR AS PROPERTY GOES I SUPPORT THE ARTS AND I FEEL LIKE IT IS A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT
THE LEASE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, ONE MORE
I WANTED TO SAY, AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR IN THIS, WITH THIS PURCHASE GOING THROUGH, WE HEARD THE QUESTION THAT MS. SWANSON HAD TONIGHT. WE HEARD THE CONCERNS OF EVERYONE THAT CAME -- THAT ARE IN THIS AND HAVE MADE THEIR VOICES HEARD. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT NOT JUST OVERSIGHT, BUT WE NEED TO BE IN THE TRENCHES AND THESE -- CREATING WORKING GROUPS ON MAKING SURE THIS IS GOING TO BE WITH THIS -- WHAT THIS CITY WANTS. WORKING GROUPS WITH THE ROXY.
WORKING GROUPS WITH THE ARCHITECTS.
WORKING GROUPS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE ARTISTS, THAT KNOW THEATER AND THAT KNOW THE ARTS.
WE KEEP SEEING THEATER, BUT THEATER IS NOT JUST WHAT PERFORMING ARTS ARE. I AM A DANCER AND I HAVE HEARD THEATER SO MUCH. WHAT ABOUT DANCE? WHAT ABOUT VISUAL ARTS? WHAT ABOUT TECHNOLOGICAL ARTS. THESE ARE ALL THINGS.
WE ARE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION IN THIS DEAL.
I ASK THAT WE PUT THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THESE ARTS IN THIS AND DO TRUE WORKING GROUPS. NOT WE HAVE A COMMITTEE AND WE ARE JUST GOING TO WRITE THIS DOWN.
TRUE WORKING GROUPS WHERE WE WORK OUT THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT. WORK OUT THE ISSUES OF ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED.
BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL ISSUES. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS IN ALL PERSPECTIVES AND I ECHO A LOT OF THE SENTIMENTS AND GRATEFUL FOR THE CITIZENS CHIMING IN AND REACHING OUT AND EXPRESSING WHETHER THEY ARE FOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF IT.
SO OFTEN WE ARE TASKED WITH MAKING MANY DECISION THAT'S ARE BIG AND IMPACTING A BROAD RANGE OF OUR CITIZENS.
WE MIGHT HEAR FROM A SELECT FEW THAT TUNE IN TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT. I AM VERY PROUD OF CLARKSVILLE AND ITS CITIZENS AND MAKING THEIR VOICE HEARD.
IT HASN'T FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.
FOR ME, FROM A REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE, THE PURCHASE MAKES SENSE. I JUST HAVE IN GREAT CONCERNS
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WITH THE WAY THE LEASE IS STRUCTURED.I REALLY WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED AN OPPORTUNITY TO STRUCTURE THE DEAL PROPERLY GIVEN THAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY INHERITING A TENANT IN THIS INSTANCE, AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEIR CONCERNS ARE NOT NECESSARILY BEING ADDRESSED AS A PREVIOUS SPEAKERY -- ELUDED TO. THE PERFORMING ARTS IS BIGGER THAN JUST THEE -- THEATER. HOPEFULLY WE INVEST SOME TIME AND SOME ENERGY INTO ADDITIONAL DEBATE LATER THIS EVENING AS WE GET INTO DISCUSSING A FEW OF THE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES SPEAKING -- SEEKING TO EITHER REPEAL OR AMEND THE LEASE AGREEMENT AND ALLOWING US TO HAVE A FRESH START WITH MAKING THIS A WIN-WIN FOR THE ENTIRE PEARL FORMING -- PERFORMING ARTS COMMUNITY.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY CLARKSVILLE AS A WHOLE WILL BENEFIT FROM A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT. COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, ONE MORE
I TOO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID ABOUT THE LEASE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A NEW LEASE WRITTEN UP AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE MAY WANT TO AMEND OR ADD TO THE LEASE, THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT, MAY -- MAYOR. BEFORE YOU SIGN TO BUY THE PROPERTY, I KNOW WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT SAY SO BASED ON THE SIGNATURE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: FIRST THING'S FIRST.
COUNCILMAN RICHMOND ONE MORE TIME.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE POINT OF CLARITY EARLIER. WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE CITIZENS OF CLARKSVILLE, YES, I AGREE WITH SOME PREVIOUS SPEAKERS THAT YOU HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB ADHERING TO YOUR VOICE AND YOUR COMMUNITY POWER AND HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE AS YOUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES ON SAID ISSUES.
AS SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE STATED I ENCOURAGE US AS A COMMUNITY TO STAY INTERESTED AND TO STAY INVOLVED WITH THE LOCAL GOINGS ON OF THE CITY, OF OUR CITY.
I TOO HAVE SOME GREAT CONCERNS.
IT WAS NEVER FOR ME ABOUT THE CITY OWNING A PERFORMING ARTS VENUE. I BELIEVE IT IS AN INVESTMENT AND I BELIEVE OVER TIME WE WILL SEE A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT AND NOW AS SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS STATED, THE BIGGER CONCERN IS HOW WE MANAGE THE TAXPAYERS' CONCERN AND OUR CITIZENS' LIFESTYLE WITH THE OWNERSHIP -- THE STEWARDSHIP. OWNERSHIP IS ONE THING AND STEWARD SHIP IS ANOTHER THING.
THAT'S SOMETHING BEFORE US AND I CAN'T WAIT TO GET TO THAT DISCUSSION AND HAVE A HEALTHY DEBATE AROUND THAT.
I AGREE IT IS A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND NOT A THEATER ART CENTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR VISION AND FORE -- FORE CITEDNESS AND LISTENING TO THE STEP WASHED SHIP OF -- STEWARD SHIP OF WHAT WE NOW OWN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: DON'T OWN IT YET.
COUNCIL PERSON RE DID -- REDD.
>> WHENEVER I RAN FOR THIS OFFICE I RAN AGAINST PURCHASING THE ROXY. I LIKE THE ROX AND I AM ALL FOR THE ROXY AS LONG AS WE DON'T OWN THE ROXY.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS A GOVERNMENT FUNCTION TO OWN A THEATER. YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH THEATERS HAVE LOST BECAUSE OF COVID. I WAS AT A FORUM YEARS AGO AND SOMEBODY ASKED WHAT IS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT WHEN IT COMES TO BUYING BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS.
I THINK THE ANSWER IS THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
THE PRIVATE SECTOR SHOWS THE NEED FOR THINGS.
IF SOMETHING IS NEEDED, THE PRIVATE SECTOR COMES FORWARD AND IT MAKES THINGS. THAT'S WHY I HAVE AN IPHONE.
LOOK AT THE PHONE I HAVE HERE.
LOOK WHERE IT STARTED. THE PHONE WAS A THING ON THE WALL AND YOU HAD TO CRANK IT UP AND TALK TO PEOPLE.
IT HAS PROGRESSED TO THIS. PROJECTS LIKE THESE, IF SOMETHING HAS NOT PROGRESSED SOMEHOW WE THINK IF THE GOVERNMENT TAKES IT OVER IT IS GONNA WORK A LOT BETTER AND IT IS GONNA GENERATE REVENUE. PEOPLE, IN MY OPINION, AND I MAY BE WRONG, THEY WILL NOT HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME THAT THEY USE FOR THEIR ENTERTAINMENT JUST BECAUSE WE BUILD THE ROXY. YES, THEY MIGHT USE THEIR
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ENTERTAINMENT DOLLARS, THAT DISPOSABLE INCOME, WHATEVER IT IS EVERY MONTH, THAT EXTRA $50 , TO GO TO THE ROXY.BUT THAT MEANS THEY ARE JUST NOT GOING TO A RESTAURANT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE GONE TO. FOR ME, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT GENERATES A NEW REVENUE SOURCE THAT IS HERE.
I BELIEVE IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE SO SUCCESSFUL, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL.
IN ANY CASE, I AM GOING TO BE VOTING NO, BUT I TELL YOU ONE THING. I HOPE I AM COMPLETELY WRONG AND IT TURNS OUT TO BE A COMPLETE SUCCESS.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REDD. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED ONE MORE TIME. >> YES.
I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO DEEP INTO THIS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE LATER THIS EVENING, BUT I DID WANT TO TALK -- I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ONE THAT I DO THINK THE PERFORMANCE ART CENTER NEEDS TO EXPAND THEIR SCOPE OF ENTERTAINMENT.
JUST RECALLING SEVERAL OF THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH DIFFERENT CITIZENS AND BOARD MEMBERS, THE ROXY IS NOT IN THE RED. THEY MAKE MONEY.
THEY ARE SELLING THEIR BUILDING.
IF WE DO NOT GIVE THEM A GUARANTEE OF THE BUILDING, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHY WOULD THEY JUST NOT KEEP THE BUILDING AND CONTINUE? I MEAN, WE DO OWE THEM A GUARANTEE OF MAYBE NOT SOLD OR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT FOR THE NEXT 15, 20 YEARS WE CAN'T PUT THEM OUT OF THEIR HOME IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE. WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT. IF I WERE THEM AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL, I WOULD PROBABLY NOT SELL MY BUILDING. JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.
COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, BACK TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE HAVE 205,950 PEOPLE WITHIN CLARKSVILLE.
THE ROXY IS GONNA GENERATE REVENUE.
THAT IS REVENUE WE CAN UTILIZE FOR THOSE SIDEWALKS AND THOSE ROADS THAT WE SO CONSISTENTLY TALK ABOUT.
IF WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THAT TO OUR CITIZENS WITHIN OUR WARDS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR THIS. THANK YOU JOAN -- THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON NIGHT -- KNIGHT. BACK TO YOU COUNCIL PERSON
ALLEN. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY WHEN THE LAST SPEAKER SPOKE ABOUT THE 10 OR 15 YEARS AND BEING KICKED OUT. IT IS NOT REALLY KICKING THE ROXY OUT OF ANYWHERE. IT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE ARE SAYING WE WILL PROVIDE TO OUR CITIZENS. IF THE ROXY IS TAKING ALL OF THAT TIME AND WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THE OTHER ARTS IN THERE, THEN SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
HOPEFULLY, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND DO WORKING SESSIONS OR HAVE THOSE OPEN CONVERSATIONS WE CAN GET THAT SETTLED PRIESH -- PRIOR TO EVER MOVING FORWARD.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
OKAY. COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT ONE
MORE TIME. >> APPRECIATE. IT MAYOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE -- APPRECIATE IT MAY YES -- MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ANOTHER PER -- PERSPECTIVE. THEY OFFER SELF-SUFFICIENT AND SELF-SUSTAINING AND IT GENERATES ITS OWN DEMAND.
WHEN YOU DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT YOU CAN SEE INDICATION THAT'S IT IS NOT QUITE SO WHICH IS BEING ON THE BRINK OF FORECLOSURE AND GETTING GRANTS FROM ASPIRE TO BAIL THEM OUT.
YOU CAN SEE THEM HAVING TO REFINANCE THE BUILDING SEVERAL TIMES. THIS IS PRE-COVID.
THEN DURING COVID AND NOT HAVING, IN MY OPINION, THE BUSINESS SENSE TO MAYBE MAKE SOME REDUCTIONS IN EXPENDITURES TO WHERE YOU ARE NOT HAVING TO BORROW $15,000 ON ONE END ON THE CBID AND THEN COME BACK AND BORROW ANOTHER 35 GRAND FROM THEM AND APPLY FOR PPP FUNDS IN ADDITION TO GETTING 180 GRAND FROM THE CITY IN INCREMENTS OF $20,000 A MONTH, AND THE PERFORMANCES AREN'T OCCURRING. THAT IS JUST RED FLAGS IN A SELF--SUSTAINING ENTITY. IF THEY ARE SELF-SUSTAINING, WHY PULL MONEY AND RESOURCES FROM EVERY WHICH WAY AND REFINANCING AND LIKE I SAID ON THE BRINK OF FORECLOSURE AND
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WHATNOT? THAT DOESN'T BOAST WELL TO THE CONFIDENCE IN SELF-SUFFICIENCY. TO SAY IT IS A SELF-SUSTAINING ENEMY. A -- SESM SUSTAIN -- SELF-SUSTAINING TO ME MEANS YOU DON'T NEED OUTSIDE SOURCES OF FUNDING TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU DO ON A DAY-TO-DAY.YOUR TICKET SALES AND YOUR PRODUCT IS WHAT KEEPS YOU AFLOAT. IT IS NOT RELYING ON OTHER ENTITIES. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF JUST ADD ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE TO THAT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT.
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN. ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE GONE OFF TOPIC OF THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS STATED IN REGARD TO THE CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE ROXY REGIONAL THEATER.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WOW.
OKAY. WE HAVE -- I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS AND WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT.
THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED.
THAT'S A NONDEBATABLE MOTION. WHICH MEANS WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON ORDINANCE 54.
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> YES. >> MS. H -- MR. HOLLEMAN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION IS ADOPTED.
WE ARE NOW READY TO VOTE ON ORDINANCE 54.
THE SECOND READING. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ORDINANCE 54 IS ADOPTED.
CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THE REST OF THE
FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> SORRY. I HAD EVERYTHING FOCUSED ON THE OTHER. ALL RIGHT.
FOR THE THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR-ENDING 12-31 THE GENERAL FUNDS REVENUE EXCEEDING EXPENDITURES BY $6.5 MILLION. REVENUES WERE COMING IN STRONGER THAN THE BUDGET ANTICIPATED WITH NEARLY 50% OF ALL GENERAL FUND REVENUES COLLECTED TO DATE.
BUILDING AND CODES CONTINUES TO EXCEED BUDGETED PROJECTIONS WITH NEARLY 60% OF THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET COLLECTED IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THAT WITH ALL OF THE VARIOUS REZONINGS WE HAVE HAD.
SALES TAX CONTINUES TO BE A STRONG INNED -- INDICATOR OF THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT. OUR LOCAL SALES OPTIONS -- I'M SORRY. OUR LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX INCREASED 13% OVER THE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. GOOD REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT? HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE WE ARE READY FOR THE GAS AND
[10) GAS & WATER COMMITTEE]
WATER COMMITTEE REPORT. CHAIRPERSON REDD, YOU ARERECOGNIZED. >> WE HAVE NO ITEMS TO BRING BEFORE THE COUNCIL. THE COMMITTEE DID VOTE TO CHANGE OUR MEETING TIME FROM 3:45 TO 4:00.
THAT'S OUR REPORT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: GOOD REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GAS AND WATER COMMITTEE? SEEING NONE WE ARE NOW READY
[11) HOUSING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]
FOR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.CHAIRPERSON SMITH, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE RESOLUTIONS YOU SEE ON YOUR AGENDA, RESOLUTION 46-2020-21, WE WILL DO ONE AT A TIME. THEY WERE PLACED ON THE AGENDA BY ERROR AND THERE ARE OTHER STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN BEFORE THEY CAN BE VOTED ON. AT THIS TIME FOR RESOLUTION 46-20-21 I AM MAKING A MOTION TO POST POSTPONE THE RESOLUTION AND WE WILL ALLOW IT TO BE VOTED ON MARCH THE 4TH, THE NEXT REGULAR SESSION AND BE DISCUSSED
THEN. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION 46 TO THE MARCH REGULAR SESSION OF CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE TO POSTPONE.
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>> 13 YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: RESOLUTION 46 IS POSTPONED. THANK YOU.
CHAIR -- CHAIRPERSON SMITH. >> THANK YOU.
THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS 47-20-21.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO POSTPONE THIS ONE SO I MAKE A MOTION TO
POSTPONE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED RESOLUTION 47 TO THE NEXT SESSION. PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>> 13 YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: RESOLUTION 47 IS POSTPONED. THANK YOU.
CHAIRPERSON SMITH? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I WILL FINISH IT UP WITH THE AGENDA.
ON FEBRUARY 9TH AT 12 -- IT SAYS 12:01 A.M. UNTIL FEBRUARY 26TH AT 2 P.M., THE 20 -- 2021-222 BLOCK GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS WILL OPEN APPLICATIONS FROM LOW TO MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES OR PERSONS.
THERE IS AN ESTIMATED $1.2 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR ACTIVITIES AND PROJECTS. ALSO TO APPLY PLEASE GO TO THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE WEBSITE AND CLICK ON THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO APPLY. FURTHER ON FEBRUARY 5TH AT 10 A.M. AND FEBRUARY 8TH AT 3 P.M., THE NONPROFIT, PRE-APPLICATION WORKSHOP WILL BEGIN AT THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND CAN BE REVIEWED ON GOOGLE MEET. ALSO OUR NEXT MEETING IS PLANNED FOR FEBRUARY THE 8TH AT 4 P.M. VIA ZOOM.
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU CHAIRPERSON SMITH. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE REPORT? HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE
[12) PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE]
WE ARE READY FOR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE.CHAIRPERSON RICHMOND YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE CLARKSVILLE PARKS AND REC IS HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT ON FEBRUARY 8TH THE POOL AND MAIN OFFICE WILL OPEN AT 25% CAPACITY LIMITS.
THE CENTER WAS REFINISHED AND THE FLOORS WERE REFINISHED AS WELL. THERE WAS INFIELD RENOVATIONS ON THE SOFTBALL FIELD AT HERITAGE PARK AND IT IS 75% COMPLETE, WE ARE HAPPY TO REPORT.
AND WE HAVE ABOUT 95 AND A HALF HOURS OF EQUIPMENT TRAINING COMPLETED DURING THE MONTH OF JANUARY.
THREE EMPLOYEES RECEIVED GROUNDS CERTIFICATION FOR SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELD FROM BEACON ATHLETICS.
THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE MET ON JANUARY 19TH, 2021 VIA ZOOM. THERE WAS AN OVER VIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
WELCOME TO ALL OF THOSE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT'S WERE DISCUSSED INCLUDED OUR CAPRA ACCREDITATION PROCESS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CITIES, PARKS AND REC AS WELL AS ON GOING AND UPCOMING PROJECTS AS WELL AS VACANT POSITIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME UPCOMING EVENTS. I WON'T SHARE THEM ALL, BUT FEBRUARY 1ST TO 10TH WE HAVE THE CLARKSVILLE CLUE ON THE GREEN WAY. WE HAVE THE PARTY HARDY WHICH IS THE RECREATION CENTER ON FEBRUARY 11TH TO FEBRUARY 22ND.
THERE IS AN MLK BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION AT THE RECREATION CENTER AS WELL AND THEN CONCLUDING AT THE END OF THE MONTH ON THE 27TH. THE FOOD SAMPLER IS IN MY WARD AT THE CLEMAN RECREATION CENTER.
FOR A COMPLETE LIST OF THE PROGRAMS AND CLASSES AND ON GOING ACTIVITIES PLEASE GO TO CLARKSVILLE PARKS REC.COM.
THE NEXT MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE WILL BEHELD ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH, 2021, VIRTUALLY AT 3 P.M., AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MAYOR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU CHAIRPERSON RICHMOND.
DID YOU SAY FOOD? >> YES, SIR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ALL RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE REPORT? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE -- OKAY. ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> SECOND PAGE, EXCUSE ME. WE HAD 211 MAINTENANCE SERVICE REQUESTS RECEIVED AND 204 OF THOSE WERE COMPLETED IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT'S A GOOD REPORT.
THAT'S A HARD-WORKING GROUP. THEY ALL ARE.
OKAY. WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE
[13) PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT. CHAIRPERSON GARRETT.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO 1,146 INCIDENTS. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO 10,633 INCIDENTS.
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BUILDINGS AND CODES CONSTRUCTION DIVISION DID 3,142 TOTAL INSPECTIONS. CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION HAD 74 NEW CASES. THE ABATEMENT DIVISION HAD 23 WORK ORDERS. SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS ISSUED 166. 146 WAS THE PREVIOUS HIGH.FOR MULTI-FAMILY PERMITS ISSUED WAS 16 AND COMMERCIAL WE ISSUED 13 PERMITS. THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: GOOD REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE WE ARE NOW READY FOR STREETS-GARAGE AND
[14) STREETS-GARAGE-TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE]
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. CHAIRPERSON SMITH.YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WAS FINE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION REPORT IN JANUARY.
TRANSPORTED 32,000 PASSENGERS FOR JANUARY.
AND SENIOR CITIZENS IN JANUARY WAS 5,627.
THE RESPONSE FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY WAS 2,199.
CTS WILL OPERATE ON NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS ON MONDAY, PRESIDENT'S DAY, FEBRUARY 15TH.
ALSO CHECK OUT OUR NEWEST SOLAR POWERED SHELTERS ACROSS FROM THE CITY ON RUDOLPH BOULEVARD.
STREET DEPARTMENT CLOSED 262 WORK ORDERS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY. TWO NEW EMPLOYEES STARTED IN JANUARY AS WELL. ONE WORKED FOR GIS ADMINISTRATOR AND THE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, PAUL FORD AND SONNY. AND THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS INSTALLING GUARDRAILS AT DUNLOP AND INTERNATIONAL PARK AND ALSO THE COMPLETING OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT OF THE INTERSECTION. OKAY.
THE STREET DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO WORK ON MERIWHETHER AND TRENTON ROAD, BUT THEY ARE WAITING ON THE WEATHER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
AND NOW FOR THE CITY GARAGE. FOR THE CITY GARAGE REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, 2021, THE TOTAL WORK ORDERS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY WAS 336. ALSO THE TOTAL WORK ORDER COMPLETED IS THE SAME, 336. TOTAL WORK HOURS OF 822.8.
ALSO THE FUEL FOR GARAGE UNLEADED WAS 1.77 A GALLON.
AND IT REMAINED THE SAME IN 2021 FROM 2020.
IN 2020 IT WAS $1.77 A GALLON.
TODAY, JANUARY, TODAY IT WAS $1.77.
AND DIESEL WAS $1.93.9 AND IT REMAINED THE SAME FOR 2021, A YEAR AGO. THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
ALSO, LET'S SEE, THE TOTAL OF PREREQUISITES TO FINANCE WAS 147,157.89. THAT WAS IN 2020.
ALSO FOR 2021, IT WAS A TOTAL OF 138,043.83.
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, CHAIRPERSON SMITH.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT COMMITTEE REPORT? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE LET ME ASK THE COUNCIL A QUESTION. WE ARE NOW AT 8:30.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 8:35. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS NOT EXACTLY 8:35. IT IS 8:37.
[15) NEW BUSINESS]
WE WILL RECONVENE AND TAKE UP THE NEW BUSINESS PART OF OUR AGENDA. WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE FIRST ITEM ON THE LIST. THAT'S ORDINANCE 62.THE SPONSOR OF THAT ORDINANCE IS COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> SO AS I SAID LAST WEEK, I FEEL LIKE THIS ORDINANCE NEEDS TO PASS BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON ATTORNEYS FOR US.
I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE SITTING HERE.
FOR OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, FOR THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE SHOULD ALL HAVE A HIGHER ETHICAL STANDARD.
AND IF SOMETHING COMES UP WHERE WE ARE ACCUSED OF SOMETHING ETHICAL, SOMETIMES YOU JUST SAY I MADE A
MISTAKE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: CAN I INTERRUPT YOU? WE WILL NEED A MOTION AND THEN
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A SECOND. AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS.>> OH, OKAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT'S OKAY. IF YOU GIVE AS YOU MOTION WE WILL SEE IF WE HAVE A SECOND. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE
62. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. NOW I FEEL BETTER.
PROCEED. >> SO THAT IS MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. EVERYTHING YOU HEARD A MINUTE AGO. MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IS TRANSPARENCY IS KEY TO EVERYTHING WE DO.
AND WE NEED TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE.
IN PASSING THIS ORDINANCE WE ARE SAYING, OKAY, CITY, WE ARE HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND WE EXPECT YOU TO HOLD US
ACCOUNTABLE TOO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
I WILL SAY THAT ACCORDING TO OUR CHARTER IT TAKES A TWO-THIRDS VOTE TO APPROVE CHANGES TO THE CITY CODE OF ETHICS. THAT WOULD BE ACCORDING TO MY PHAT -- MATH 9 VOTES. COUNCIL PERSON REDD ARE YOU
RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO COMMIT THIS TO A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BESET UP BY THE MAY -- BE SET UP BY THE MAYOR TO STUDY THIS, THE ETHICS TO TAKE A MORE IN DEPTH LOOK AT THIS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO RECOMMEND OR COMMEND THIS TO A COMMITTEE AS NAMED BY THE MAYOR TO STUDY THIS MORE IN DEPTH. PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? COUNCIL PERSON EVANS, DID YOU WISH TO DISCUSS THAT MOTION?
>> IT WAS NOT THAT MOTION. MINE WAS CLICKED BEFORE THE MOTION WAS MADE. I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT
MOTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON EVANS AND COUNCIL PERSON --
>> I AM CONFUSED. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALREADY. THIS IS NOT -- IS THIS -- IS IT AN AMENDMENT? CAN YOU MAKE ANOTHER MOTION WHILE THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR? I NEED PARLIAMENTARY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT'S ALL. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MR. BAKER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CLARIFY FOR US.
>> IT IS NOT AN AMENDMENT. IT IS AN ACTUAL PROCEDURAL MOTION TO REFER IT TO A COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE IS ONE THAT THE MAKER OF THE MOTION HAS ASKED THE MAYOR TO FORM. SO IT IS A PROCEDURAL MOTION.
>> SO THEN THAT TRUMP THE MOTION THAT WAS ALREADY ON THE
>> SO THEN THAT ONE JUST GOES AWAY IF WE PASS THIS ONE?
>> NO. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IS A MOTION TO REFER SOMETHING TO A COMMITTEE OR TO SOME OTHER BODY, THE MAIN MOTION, THAT MAIN MOTION GETS, WHATEVER THE SUNT OF IT IS -- SUBJECT OF IT IS, GETS REFERRED TO A COMMITTEE FOR STUDY. AND THEN WHEN THEY ARE THROUGH STUDYING IT THEY CAN REPORT BACK TO THE MAIN BODY.
THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE, IF YOU WILL, THE CITY COUNCIL.
YOU PROBABLY SHOULD SAY THAT, A MOTION TO REFER TO A STUDY COMMITTEE FORMED BY THE MAYOR, AND WHEN THEY ARE THROUGH, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.
>> OKAY. >> IT IS A PROCEDURAL MOTION.
>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER.
COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WANT TO SAY THE REASON I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN REDD'S MOTION AND I SECONDED IT IS THIS IS A DEFINITIVE POLICY THAT REQUIRES SPECIFIC STUDY. THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE ETHICS DOCUMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.
WE NEED TO TAKE A FULL INSIGHTFUL LOOK AT IT.
I RECOMMEND ACTUALLY GOING AHEAD AND VOTING FOR THIS.
THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL TIME TO PRETTY MUCH NITPICK AND CHOOSE AND PICK OUT AND PUT IN WHATEVER IT IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT ON THE ETHICS DOCUMENT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS WHY I SECONDED IT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT.
BACK TO THE SPONSOR OF THE MOTION, COUNCIL PERSON REDD.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK LANCE FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THE REASON I DIDN'T PUT IT TO A SPECIFIC COMMITTEE IS WE DON'T HAVE A RULES AND ETHICS COMMITTEE TO COMMIT THE ITEM TO, SO I JUST HAD TO SAY A TEMPORARY COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR.
OF COURSE I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE MAYOR TO MAKE THE SPONSOR OF THE COUNCIL LADY ALLEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AS WELL AS SOME OTHER MEMBERS.
MAYBE SOME DAY WE WILL HAVE A RULES AND ETHICS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REDD. COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED. >> TO GET CAUGHT UP ON WHAT I MISSED. SO THE MAIN MOTION WAS TO AMEND THE ETHICS POLICY AND THE AMENDMENT IS TO CREATE A
COMMITTEE TO WORK THROUGH IT? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NO.
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THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 62 WHICH WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN WHO WAS PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCIL PERSON REDD MADE A PROCEDURAL MOTION TO REFER THIS ORDINANCE TO A COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND THEN THEY WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATIONAL REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL REGARDING ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE. AM I STATING THAT CORRECTLY,COUNCIL PERSON REDD? >> YES, SIR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT GETS YOU CAUGHT UP.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN REDD? HEARING NONE AND SEEING NONE? READY TO VOTE? THIS IS THE MOTION BY COUNCIL PERSON REDD TO REFER TO A COMMITTEE.
>> MR. LITTLE [INAUDIBLE]. >> MR. REDD.
6 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION TO REFER TO A COMMITTEE IS ADOPTED.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE NEXT ORDINANCE. IT IS ORDINANCE 63-2020-21 AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, DID YOU
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> WE WOULD NEED A MOTION AND
THEN A SECOND. >> MOTION TO ACCEPT ORDINANCE
63-2020-21. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. HEARTLY SECONDED.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR AN EXPLANATION.
>> THIS JUST DELETES CHAPTER 3 OF THE CODE WHICH IS PERTAINING TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, IE AIRBNB'S.
I HAVE ACTUALLY ONLY GOTTEN ONE COMMENT ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST WEEK. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.
I WOULD ASK -- THERE ARE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS TO THIS, AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT -- THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO AMEND THIS, THAT THE REST OF THIS CHAPTER STAYS IN THE CODE AND I WHAT ASK THAT YOU -- JUST THAT YOU WOULD VOTE FOR THIS ORDINANCE TO REMOVE THE -- REMOVE IT ENTIRELY.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER. WE DO HAVE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED ON ORDINANCE 63.
I THINK WE HAVE COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.
DO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? DO YOU WISH TO PRESENT?
THANK YOU. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS -- IS THAT HOW YOU DO IT OR DO I READ THE
AMENDMENT FIRST. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO -- FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 63 BY DELETING THE LANGUAGE PROPOSED THAT SEEKS TO DELETE THE ENTIRE SHORT-TERM ORDINANCE AS COD -- CODIFIED AT CITY CODE 5-301 AND THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS, AND TO FURTHER AMEND THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AS FOLLOWS.
TO AMEND SECTION 5-304A3 PERTAINING TO THE DESIGNATION OF A LOCAL CONTACT PERSON TO CHANGE THE RESPONSE TIME REFERENCED IN SECTION 5-304A3I FROM 45 MINUTES TO TWO HOURS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AMEND SECTION 5-311G PERTAINING TO PARKING BY DELETING THE CURRENT LANGUAGE OF SUBSECTION G ENTIRELY AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFORE THE FOLLOWING: EACH SHORT-TERM RENTAL SHALL PRAY AT LEAST ONE PARKING SPACE.
OUR CITY IS GROWING. I'M SORRY.
ONE SECOND -- OH I NEED A SECOND.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I THOUGHT WE GOT A SECOND.
DID WE NOT HEAR A SECOND? I HEARD A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT? OKAY NOW WE HAVE IT.
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OKAY. HEARD IT AGAIN.>> ALL RIGHT. OUR CITY IS GROWING AND AS WE FILL IN OUR EXISTING COMMUNITIES WITH DENSER HOUSING THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN THE USE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. SHORT-TERM RENTAL PLATFORMS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THE ROOMS AND HOMES LIST OWED THEIR SITE WITH ZONING AND HEALTH REGULATIONS. LOCAL RESIDENTS HAVE STARTED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. NUISANCE COMPLAINTS RANGE FROM NOISE CAUSED BY VISITORS, LOUD PARTIES, DRUNKEN BEHAVIOR WITH TRAFFIC, PARKING AND WASTE MANAGEMENT AND SAFETY CONCERN WHEN STRANGERS ENTER THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUILDINGS.
WE ONLY NEED TO LOOK TO NASHVILLE TO SEE HOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS CONTRIBUTED AND AFFECTED THE NUMBER OF HOUSES FOR SALE AS WELL AS AFFORDABILITY.
THE NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM WREN THAT WILL -- RENTALS IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL ONLY RISE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE VISITING OUR CITY. THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES LIFE SAFETY FEATURES AND WAS CREATED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE LEADERSHIP IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TO INCLUDE FIRE/POLICE. I ASK THAT YOU POLICE AMEND THE AREAS CONSIDERED GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND THE LIFE SAFETY FEATURES IN PLACE.
IF WE DO NOT ADDRESS THIS NOW, IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE WILL BE ADDRESSING IT AGAIN OR WE MAY BE CONSIDERING A ZONING LAW.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.
HAVE I THREE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.
ARE YOU WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE AMENDMENT?
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN. >> I'M NOT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS
AMENDMENT? >> NOT THIS AMENDMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS
AMENDMENT? >> SO, MY QUESTION ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT IS WHY WOULD IT TAKE OUT ONE PARKING -- WHY WOULD IT ONLY BE ONE PARKING SPACE VERSUS ONE PER BEDROOM.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. >> WHEN I RESEARCHED, MANY APARTMENTS GIVE -- LIKE IF YOU REPRESENT AN APARTMENT YOU GET ONE PARKING SPACE, SOMETIMES TWO.
IF I HAD A SPACE THAT WAS LIKE TWO BEDROOMS OR THREE BEDROOMS, THIS WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO GIVE YOU THREE PARKING SPACES. MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING SHORT-TERM RENTALS DO NOT REQUIRE THAT AMOUNT OF PARKING. USUALLY YOU COME IN A CAR AS A FAMILY. I REPRESENTED A SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITH MY FAMILY. WE FLEW IN WITH ONE CAR.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AN UNDO BURDEN TO -- UNDUE BURDEN
TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON ALLEN. >> I THINK WHAT THIS DOES IS BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE K -- SEVERAL BEDROOMS IN EACH HOME THEY RENT OUT INDIVIDUALLY.
I DON'T -- I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE.
I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE HOUSES AND THEY RENT OUT EACH ROOM AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. THEY WOULD HAVE A PARKING SPOT
PER ROOM IN THAT HOUSE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IS THAT A
QUESTION? >> I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO? WILL WE BE -- IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, WOULD WE BE TAKING THE PARKING SPACE FROM EACH OF THOSE ROOMS THAT IS A RENTAL?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, DO YOU HAVE
CLARITY? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WOULDN'T BE TAKING FROM THAT. WE JUST WOULDN'T BE REQUIRING
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ON THE
I ALSO HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING FOR THIS AIRBNB. LET ME GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF -- THERE WAS A PERSON WHO RENTED AN AIRBNB IN GEORGIA.
HE WANTED TO GO DOWN TO THE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL THEM THE SCOOTER THINGS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
IT WAS THE SCOOTER RIDE OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM THINGS, THE ATV'S, ABT'S? AM I RIGHT? WHO KNOWS. THEY ARE LIKE THE LITTLE MOTORCYCLES, BUT THEY ARE NOT.
I THINK ABT'S OR SOMETHING. ANYWAY, HE RENTED A TRUCK -- I WILL CALL IT THE ABT. I MAY HAVE IT WRONG.
YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THE PROBLEM WAS HE DIDN'T HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK.
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THE NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED THE POLICE BECAUSE HE HAS A TRUCK PARKED IN FRONT OF THE PLACE, AND HE HAD TO PUT THE ABT SOMEWHERE. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR HIM. WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK WE NEED TO REQUIRE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OWNERS OF THESE AIRBNB'S ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AT LEAST MORE THAN ONE PARKING. THE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING.YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE FAMILY MEMBER.
SOMETIMES THEY TAKE THE TRUCK AND THEY TAKE THE BOATS.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO DURING THEIR VACATION. I JUST REALLY THINK -- NOTHING AGAINST WHAT YOU GOT, BUT SAYING WE NEED TO -- I JUST THINK THEY NEED TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE MORE PARKING THAN JUST ONE. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IS THAT A QUESTION? THAT'S JUST A COMMENT. OKAY.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, YOU ARE NEXT ON THE LIST.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE SPONSOR. I HAVE RESERVATION IN DICTATING PARKING BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHERE THE AIRBNB
IS LOCATED. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SHORT-TERM
RENTAL. >> YES SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS LOCATED, IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY TO ASSIGN PARKING SPACES. I THINK OF DENSER AREAS LIKE DOWNTOWN WHICH OUR DOWNTOWNS ARE A FAR CRY FROM NASHVILLE'S, BUT RECENTLY I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP MY COUSIN WHO HAD A SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP. THERE ARE NO ASSIGNED PARKING SPACES TO ANY OF THEM. IT IS NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THEY ARE ALL LINED UP OVER THERE.
IT IS GET IN WHERE YOU FIT IN.
THERE ARE SO MANY IN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
JUST SEEING HOW THAT SET UP IS IN FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, IT IS -- IF YOU ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF -- LIKE HIS IS THREE STORIES AND A TOTE -- TOTAL OF LIKE FOUR TO FIVE BEDROOMS. IF HE IS CHOPPING IT UP AND LEASING TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, IT IS REALLY TOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING FOR EACH AND EVERY PERSON.
TO REGULATE THAT FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY AND REQUIRING ONE PARKING SPACE, I JUST THINK THAT THAT MAY BE AN UNREALISTIC OVERREACH ON OUR PART IN ASSUMING THAT THAT SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER IS IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN GUARANTEE A PARKING SPACE TO POTENTIAL RENTERS.
I HAVE SOME RESERVATION OVER THAT.
IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING THE INTENT, I WELCOME THE SPONSOR OF IT TO MAYBE ELABORATE ON THAT AND WHAT HER INTENT IS BEHIND THE PARKING JUST SO I CAN ENSURE THAT I AM FULLY
COMPREHENDING. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, DO YOU WISH TO RESPOND TO THAT?
>> YEAH. THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE WAS THAT YOU HAD TO PROVIDE A PARKING SPACE FOR EACH BEDROOM.
I WAS MINIMIZING THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
I THOUGHT THAT HAVING TO GIVE A PARKING SPACE FOR EACH BEDROOM DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION WAS AN UNDO BURDEN.
I DECREASED IT. I DO THINK THAT THERE HAS TO BE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES OR WE RUN INTO THE PROBLEM WHERE I WILL RENT YOU A SPARKING SPACE. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN SAN DIEGO I KNOW FOR A FACT. I WAS MINIMIZING FROM FOUR TO
ONE. >> ONE PER BEDROOM TO JUST ONE
I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
I AM ON THE SAME WAVE LENGTH TO A DEGREE.
I DO FEEL THAT WE SHOULDN'T REQUIRE THAT A PARKING SPACE BE THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE HOTELS OUT THERE WHERE PARKING ISN'T NECESSARILY FREE. ARE YOU NOT GUARANTEED A SPOT IN THEIR PARKING LOT. THERE HAS BEEN MANY A TIMES IN MY TRAVELS WHERE I HAD TO -- I BOOKED A ROOM AND LEFT MAYBE TO GO GET SOMETHING TO EAT FOR BREAKFAST AND CAME BACK AND LOW AND BEHOLD THERE IS NO PARKING SPACE FOR ME.
AND NOW I HAVE TO RELY ON GOING SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE IS PAID PARKING AND SOMEBODY HAS A PAID PARKING LOT OR GO IN THE PARKING GARAGE AND I HAVE TO HUFF IT.
THAT ALREADY HAPPENS IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY AND THEY DON'T GUARANTEE PARKING FOR GUESTS. I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER. I KNOW I CAN'T NECESSARILY -- IF I AM UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE CAN'T AMEND AN AMENDMENT.
WE HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THE CURRENT AMENDMENT PRAYER TO
INTRODUCING A NEW AMENDMENT. >> YOU CAN AMEND AN AMENDMENT,
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BUT YOU CAN'T AMEND AN AMENDMENT TO AN AMENDMENT.BASICALLY YOU HAVE ONE BITE OF THE APPLE.
YOU CAN AMEND AN AMENDMENT TO A MAIN MOTION, BUT NOT A FURTHER STEP. IF YOU WANTED TO YOU CAN OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS' AMENDMENT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, AND I WILL WRITE IT DOWN REAL QUICK ON A SHEET OF PAPER SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE, AND I WILL MAYBE SUBJECT PERHAPS TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS SO EVERYBODY HAS IT IN WRITING AND WE CAN MAYBE SAVE SOME TREES, BUT MY AMENDMENT WOULD BE SIMPLY TO EACH SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A PARKING
SPACE -- >> IT WOULD BE CLEANER AND EASIER FOR YOU TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO DELETE SECTION
5-311G ENTIRELY. >> LET'S DO THAT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WHAT HE SAID.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT.
MR. BAKER? >> AND THEN ACTUALLY WE WOULD REPLACE IT WITH THE WORD RESERVED SO THAT THE CODE COD PHO -- CODIFICATION COMPANY NOT MAKE IT CONFUSING.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU MAY WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN NEW MEMBERS WHAT RESERVE MEANS.
>> WHEN Y'ALL PASS ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS DO NOT GET CODIFIED. BUT WHEN YOU PASS AN ORDINANCE IT IS AN ORDINANCE CALLED ORDINANCE FORMAT AND THAT IS LAW. TO MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR YOU ALL AND FOR EVERYBODY, JUDGES WE DO WHAT IS CALLED A CODIFICATION OF THE ORDINANCES.
WE CONTRACT WITH A CODIFICATION COMPANY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL -- THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT ONES.
ONE WE HAVE BEEN WITH FOR MANY YEARS IS ONE OF THE MAIN ONES THAT DO CITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
MS. SKINNER WILL SEND THE ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCE FORMAT TO THEM, AND THEN THEY, THE CODIFICATION COMPANY ACTUALLY INSERTS IT INTO THE BLACK BOOKS, THE CODE BOOKS.
THEY ALL HAVE ONE OF THESE, DON'T THEY? AND WE HAVE -- WE PAY A LITTLE EXTRA BECAUSE IT TAKES SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, DO THE HARD COPY CODIFICATION AND THEY SEND SUPPLEMENTS TO THE BOOK.
YOU WILL GET THE SUPPLEMENTS. MS. SKINNER WILL PROVIDE THEM TO YOU AND SHE -- YOU TAKE OUT THE OLD LAW PAGES AND PUT IN THE NEW ONES. WE PAY THEM A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY TO DO A FAIRLY -- IT IS NOT IMMEDIATE HOW QUICK IS IT
>> OKAY, SO THEY WILL CHANGE THE ONLINE CODE WITHIN A MONTH OF A NEW LAW PASSING. THE BOOK THOUGH, THAT MIGHT TAKE FOUR, FIVE, SIX MONTHS. IN ORDER -- WHEN YOU PASS A LAW, IF YOU DELETE SOMETHING WE ALWAYS USE THE WORD "RESERVED" SO THAT IT DOESN'T MESS UP THE ALPHANUMERIC NUMBERING SYSTEM AND CAUSE CONFUSION.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU,
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. WE ARE READY FOR COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER ON THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> BECAUSE THIS AMENDMENT COMPLETELY NULLIFIES MY ORIGINAL ORDINANCE I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE AGAINST IT.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> SO, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AMENDMENT AND CITY PLANNING. AS OUR CITY GROWS AND INFILLS, IF WE DO NOT REQUIRE IT AS A -- LINING -- LIKE QUOWN -- COUNCIL PERSON BARRETT SAID HE MADE A BUILDING SPECIFICALLY FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, WE TIE OURSELVES TO A COMMUNITY THAT THEN EVENTUALLY WILL NOT HAVE PARKING IF AND WHEN THAT UNIT TURNS OVER TO SOMEONE WHO PURCHASES IT TO LIVE IN AT A LATER DAY -- DATE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE THINK ABOUT THAT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AND NOT THE SHORT-TERM OF PLANNING AND BUILDING.
BUILDING A SINGLE UNIT OR A ROW OF UNITS AND THEN 10 YEARS FROM NOW THERE IS NO PARKING SPACE FOR THEM.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
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>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND AS WE WORKED THROUGH THIS AND CREATING THE ORIGINAL SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE ONE OF THE THINGS BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION IS PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVING ISSUES WITH THE PARKING THAT WAS GOING ON AND THAT THERE THERE WAS PARKING GOING ON IN THE STREETS, THAT WAS WHY ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO BE SURE TO INCLUDE SOMETHING IN RECORD TO PARKING.
IT IS VERY COMMON TO HAVE IT THROUGHOUT OTHER SHORT OF IT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCES IN OTHER CITIES.
THEY HAD SOME SORT OF RESTRICTION IN REGARD TO PARKING. I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE KEEP AT LEAST SOME SORT OF TEXT INVOLVING THAT.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> MY QUESTION IS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IF SOMEONE WAS TO BUILD SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY FOR -- TO BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
IF THEY WERE TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THERE STILL WOULD BE A MINIMUM PARKING BECAUSE THE WAY THINGS ARE ZONED, CORRECT? WOULDN'T THERE STILL BE
MINIMAL PARKING ANYWAY? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR YOU. DOES THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS, DOES THAT SUPER SEED ZONE SNG.
>> NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SO ZONING
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I'M SORRY, COUNCIL, I AM JUST ASKING THE
QUESTION, IS THAT OKAY? >> YES.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SO ZONING REQUIRES THEY HAVE PARKING AVAILABLE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE PARKING.
>> IF ZONING REQUIRES IT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
>> CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? MOST OF OUR ZONING WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT BUILDING THESE TYPE OF THINGS HAVE A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING, CORRECT.
>> I MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT PERSON TO ANSWER THAT.
IT DEPENDS IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT APARTMENTS AND CONDOS.
PROBABLY THE ANSWER IS YES. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HOUSES, THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NO.
BUT EVEN THAT DEPENDS ON LIKE WHAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH REGARD -- OKAY. IF YOU ARE RENTING OUT A WHOLE HOUSE THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ENOUGH PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY. REMEMBER, PEOPLE ARE NOT
AUTHORIZED -- >> SIR, THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. I AM TALKING ABOUT.
-- SO IF SOMEBODY DECIDED TO BUILD AN R-4 HOUSE THERE WILL BE SOME TYPE OF PARKING FOR THAT HOUSE ALONE, RIGHT? OR IF THEY DECIDE TO DO THOSE DUPLEXES BECAUSE IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED -- IF THEY DECIDED TO DO THE LONG ROW OF HOUSING, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO THE
MINIMUM PARKING SPACES. >> IF IT IS A DUPLEX, TRI PLEX, CONDOS, APARTMENTS, YES.
>> OKAY. >> BUT MAYBE NOT IF IT IS JUST
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU MR. BAKER.
THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
IS THIS ON THE AMENDMENT? >> YES.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MR. BAKER, I THINK SHE HAS A QUESTION FOR
YOU. >> ON THIS ORDINANCE, 63, THE ONE MS. REYNOLDS IS TALKING ABOUT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT
AND NOT THE ORIGINAL. >> I KNOW, BUT -- OKAY, MY
QUESTION -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE GARRETT AMENDMENT. I'M SORRY.
>> WAIT A MINUTE. >> WE ARE TWO STEPS BEYOND -- ORIE MOVED FROM THE -- OR REMOVED FROM THE MAIN MOTION.
THE MAIN MOTION IS 63 TO DELETE THE WHOLE SDR CHAPTER.
THAT'S COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER'S MAIN MOTION, ORDINANCE 63.
AND COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS, SHE PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT THAT HAS THESE TWO -- DOES THESE TWO THINGS.
CHANGED THE 45 -- >> I UNDERSTAND.
>> AND CHANGE THE PARKING. >> LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING THOUGH. ON THIS SAME ORDINANCE OR AMENDMENT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
>> THE GARRETT AMENDMENT? >> THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
HOW DOES IT MAKE HERS NULL AND VOID? SHE IS AMENDING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MS. BUTLER
IS AMENDING? >> MS. BUTLER IS AMENDING THE
SHORT-TERM RENTAL -- >> SHE IS WORKING ON FEES.
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS ABOUT PARKING.
BUT THEY ARE ON THE SAME ORDINANCE.
IT SAID TO AMEND SECTION 503-4.
BUT MISS REYNOLDS SAYS -- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT G, PARKING.
EACH SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT SHALL PROVIDE AT LEAST ONE
PARKING -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: LET ME TRY
TO ADD A LITTLE CLARITY. >> PLEASE DO.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED ELIMINATES ALL THE SHORT-TERM
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RENTAL ORDINANCE IN THE CITY CODE.>> OH, OKAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS WANTS TO AMEND THE DE LESION -- DELETION BY USING THE LANGUAGE IN HER AMENDMENT WHICH IS BEFORE YOU. AND THEN COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS'
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HAVE YOU GOT THAT?
>> OKAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT WOULD DELETE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT ALTOGETHER.
IT IS SUBSTITUTING THE WORD "RESERVE."
>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
I WAS CONFUSED. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ME TOO. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. WE ARE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> MR. BAKER, I'M SORRY.
I KNOW YOU JUST SAT DOWN. CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK. WHEN I ORIGINALLY PUT THIS IN I PUT IT IN FOR A REPEAL. IS A REPEAL AND A DE --
DELETION THE SAME THING? >> YES.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE GARRETT AMENDMENT WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? I SEE COUNCIL PERSON SMITH. DO YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED?
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
COUNCIL PERSON REDD? >> OFFER THE MOTION TO VOTE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: BECAUSE WE ARE ELECTRONIC WE HAVE TO DO ROLE CALL. JUST TO BE CONSISTENT.
SO THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED AND PROPERLY SECONDED ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT WHICH IS THE GARRETT AMENDMENT. NONDEBATEABLE, REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS WHICH IS 9 VOTES. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE
WAS THERE A SECOND? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YES.
>> MR. LITTLE. >> [INAUDIBLE].
[INAUDIBLE] >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YEAH, THIS
IS CALLING FOR THE QUESTION. >> I.
I WILL CHANGE MY VOTE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS LATE. GO AHEAD, MADAM CLERK.
>> 13 YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED AND WE ARE NOW ON THE QUESTION BEFORE US WHICH IS THE GARRETT AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AND THAT IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT. WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT, THE GARRETT AMENDMENT. HOW IS THAT? ARE WE READY TO VOTE? WE HAVE TO VOTE.
>> MR. PITTS. >> 4 YES AND 9 NO.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT FAILS. AND WE ARE NOW BACK ON THE AMENDMENT, THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT AS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED. ANY FURTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THAT AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE PROPOSAL? TO THE ANSWERER DO YOU WISH -- OKAY. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON -- OKAY. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> CAN YOU REFRESH ME HOW MANY VOTES THIS NEEDS? WHAT IS THE --
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THIS IS A SIMPLE MAJORITY WHICH IS SEVEN VOTES TO PASS THIS REYNOLDS AMENDMENT TO YOUR ORIGINAL
ORDINANCE. >> IT NULLIFIES MY ORIGINAL
ORDER -- ORDINANCE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT AMENDS YOUR ORDINANCE IN TWO AREAS. MR. BAKER?
>> IT CAN BE LESS THAN SEVEN IF PEOPLE ABSTAIN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. >> IT IS A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT AND VOTING.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HOW IS THAT?
>> EVEN WORSE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE AMENDMENT, THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT.
PARDON ME FOR REFERRING TO IT THAT WAY, BUT IT KEEPS IT SIMPLE. SEEING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? PARDON?
COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND? >> NO, JUST MY --
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>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: VOTE? >> YES, SIR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE VOTING ON COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS AMENDMENT WHICH WAS DISTRIBUTED TO YOU AND IT WOULD MOVE TO AMENDMENT ORDINANCE 63 WHICH WAS OFFERED BY COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER DELETING THE LANGUAGE THAT SEEKS TO DELETE THE ENTIRE SHORT-TERM ORDINANCE CODIFIED BY CODE 5-301 AND THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS AND TO FURTHER AMENDMENT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AS FOLLOWS. 1, TO AMEND SECTION 5-304A3 PERTAINING TO THE DESIGNATION OF A LOCAL CONTACT PERSON TO CHANGE THE RESPONSE TIME REFERENCE TO END SECTION 5-304 AND FOLLOWING FROM 45 MINUTES TO TWO HOURS.
FROM 45 MINUTES TO TWO HOURS. AND 2 TO AMEND SECTION 5311G PERTAINING TO PARKING. DELETING THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SUBSECTION G AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFORE THE FOLLOWING.
PARKING EACH SHORT-TERM RENTAL SHALL PROVIDE AT LEAST ONE PARKING SPACE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HERS WAS TOLY -- TO DELETE THE ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER.
THIS AMENDS THAT DELETION. YOU GOOD? OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, REGARDING THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE, YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE ON THE REYNOLDS
>> MS. ALLEN. >> MS. REYNOLDS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE AMENDMENT FAILS.
WE ARE NOW BACK ON THE ORDINANCE 63 AS PROPOSED BY COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER. COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND ORDINANCE 63 BY DELETING THE LANGUAGE OF HER PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT SEEKS TO DELETE THE ENTIRE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AS CODIFIED AT CITY CODE 5-301 AND THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS FURTHER AMEND THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AS FOLLOWS. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT PRESENTED TO YOU EARLIER TODAY.
THE ONE THAT HAS FOUR ITEMS ON THERE.
ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4. I WILL GO AHEAD -- I WILL SPEAK TO IT. ITEM NUMBER ONE, TO AMEND SECTION 5-304. ITEM D, PERTAINING TO THE ADMINISTRATION -- ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSING AND PERMIT FEE TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT FROM 150 TO 75 AND IN CONNECTION WITH AN APPLICATION FOR FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT OPERATING PERMIT. NUMBER 2 TO AMEND 5-306 PERTAINING TO THE RENEWAL APPLICATION AND PROCESSING FEE FROM $120 TO $70 IN CONNECTION WITH THE RENEWAL APPLICATION FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT OPERATING PERMIT.
ITEM NUMBER 3, TO AMEND SECTION 5-311 BY DELETING SUBSECTION C ENTIRELY THAT PER THANES TO ADVERTISING -- PER THANES TO ADVERTISING AND SUB -- UP SUB SUITING THE WORD RESERVED. SUBSECTION K THAT VIOLATES AN OWNER'S RIGHT TO CONFIDENTIALLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THAT ONE COMPLETELY AND THEREFORE SUBSTITUTE IT WITH THE WORD "RESERVED." ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO AMEND SECTION 5-311 DELETING SUBSECTION J ENTIRELY THAT PARY THANE -- PERTAINS TO FOOD SERVICE AND SUB SUIT THE WORD "RESERVE" AND NOT LISTED IS ITEM 5-304 SUBSECTION 7 WHICH A LANDLORD SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THEIR NEIGHBOR.
WE WILL ADD THE WORD "RESERVED."
LET ME JUST SAY -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING ELSE CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION?
>> I DID INITIALLY MAKE IT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU DID?
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THERE IS A SECOND. MY APOLOGIES.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'RE TREND SETTERS WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
IN MY OTHER CAPACITY WITH THE COUNTY I HAD EARLIER THIS EVENING A C-TASK FORCE I HAD TO TAKE.
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IT WAS VIA ZOOM. WE HAD SEVERAL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON THAT PARTICULAR ZOOM CALL.ONE OF THEM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTING AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF REGULATION AT THE STATE IN REFERENCE TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE HERE TO THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONER SO WE CAN UTILIZE IT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FACT THAT I AM A REPRESENTATIVE FOR WARD 5.
THAT'S NORTH SIDE OF CLARKSVILLE.
WE HAVE A LARGE POPULATION OF INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE AND WITH THE INCREASE IN POPULATION WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN CRIME.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY HERE WITHIN MY PARTICULAR DISTRICT.
AND NOW WITH THIS ORDINANCE WE HELP TO ALLEVIATE THE ISSUE.
I'M LOOKING AHEAD. I'M LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
I'M LOOKING AT WITH THE GROWTH OF THE POPULATION EVEN MORE CRIME MAY HAPPEN WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS WITHIN MY COMMUNITY, WITHIN MY DISTRICT. AND I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THE EXACT SAME.
SO BY DELETING THIS ENTIRE ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER WOULD MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.
YES, I AM SAYING THAT. MY RECOMMENDATION IS KEEP THE ORDINANCE AND VOTE FOR THE AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ALL RIGHTY. MR. BAKER.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO I THINK YOU MOVED ONE ABOVE, BUT TO KEEP IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE FOR THE MINUTES AND THE RECORD, YOU GOT 1 THROUGH 4 THAT WERE
>> AND SO YOU ARE GONNA ADD A NUMBER 5 TO AMEND SECTION 5-3-11 BY DELETING SUB SESSION K ENTIRELY.
>> YES, SIR. >> THAT PERTAINS TO POSTING CONTACT INFORMATION WITHIN THE STR, AND SUBSTITUTING THEREFORE THE WORD "RESERVED." AND THEN YOUR OTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENT WAS TO AMEND SECTION
>> THAT'S THE ONE I'M CONFUSED.
>> WITH LANDLORDS, REQUIRING LANDLORDS TO NOTIFY THEIR NEIGHBOR IT -- THAT THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH GOING TO RENT OUT THEIR -- IS IT NOT STILL THERE?
>> I AM SHOWING 5-304A7 IS JUST RESERVED.
>> I APPRECIATE IT. I MOVE TO REMOVE THAT ONE.
>> OKAY. WE CAN MAKE A COPY OF THIS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE WILL NEED THAT IN WRITING JUST SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT. WE WILL KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE AMENDMENT? I WILL REFER TO THIS AS THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT. EVERYBODY GOT IT? OKAY. COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, DO
YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? >> YES.
I'M SORRY. I AM TRYING TO SHUFFLE THE PAPERS HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU SAID WITHOUT A DOUBT. SPEAKING AS THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID.
THAT WAS THE INTENT BEHIND EVERYTHING.
I DO WANT TO ADDRESS A LITTLE IN RASHED TO THE FEES.
THE $150 AND THE $120, THAT WAS CALCULATED BY OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THOSE NUMBERS WERE CALCULATED BY ASKING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HOW LONG THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO AN INSPECTION, ASKING THE CODE DEPARTMENT HOW
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LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR AN INSPECTION AND ALSO CALCULATING HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR SOMEBODY TO SIT THERE AND DO THE PROCESSING OF EVERYTHING.SO JUST TO GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE YOU THE DATA THERE FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROCESSING THE REVENUE CLERK EXPECTED IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AND AT THEIR RATE YOU ARE LOOKING AT $6.22.
REVENUE REVIEW APPLICATION FOR COMPLETENESS, YOU ARE LOOKING AT TAKING APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR.
SO THERE IS ANOTHER ALMOST $25.
THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CLARKSVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT WORK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO.
YOU'VE GOT THE CAPTAIN INVOLVED IN THAT, AND SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT A COGS OF ABOUT $-- COST OF ABOUT $70.
YOU ADD IN CODES AND IT IS ANOTHER $40.
THE REVENUE CLERK, PRINT, LICENSE, POSTAGE AND POSSIBILITY OF LETTER OF DISAPPROVAL AND PICK UP AND THE TOTAL PROCESS IS $147.43. THAT'S THE COST THE CITY IS TAKING ON. THE $150 FEE IS FOR STRICTLY COST RECOVERY TO DO THE THINGS NECESSARY THAT GO ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCE. IN REGARD TO THE $120, IT WAS ANTICIPATED IT WOULD TAKE LESS TIME THAN IT WOULD ON THE INITIAL REVIEW FOR BUILDING AND CODES AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THERE IS LESS TIME INVOLVED IN THAT. WE WERE TRYING TO DO THIS AND IT TOTALS TO 111.38. YOU CAN GO DOWN TO 115 OR EVEN 110 YOU ARE LOSING $1.38. THE IDEA WHERE THAT WAS CALCULATED FROM WAS LITERALLY THOSE DEPARTMENTS TAKING THE TIME THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT FEE TOTAL FOR THAT. IT WASN'T AN ARBITRARY NUMBER THAT WAS PULLED OUT. AND WE DIDN'T EVEN LOOK IN THAT INSTANCE TO WHAT OTHER CITIES OR COMMUNITIES WERE DOING. I DO JUST WANT TO COVER THAT FOR YOU. THE ADVERTISING WAS STRICTLY BY THE FACT -- THEY HAD TO PUT THEIR PERMIT ON THERE.
IT WOULD LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN INSPECTED AND APPROVED SAFE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO RENT AND TO BE ABLE TO STAY THERE. REGARDING FOOD SERVICE, IT WAS ONLY IN REGARD TO FOOD SERVICE THAT YOU ARE RECEIVING COMPENSATION FOR. IT DOESN'T MEAN AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN THE PAST USED THE EXAMPLE OF THEY WERE COOKING BREAKFAST AND SOMEBODY CAME DOWN AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE BACON AND EGGS.
THEY CAN HAVE SOME BACON AND EGGS.
THEY ARE NOT GETTING COMPENSATED FOR IT.
THIS IS IF THEY SELL FOOD IN LIKE A BED AND BREAKFAST.
IF YOU ARE SERVING FOOD LIKE YOU WOULD AT A RESTAURANT OR HOTEL, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE KITCHEN INSPECTED FOR THE CLEANLINESS OF THAT. IN REGARD TO THE POSTING THE CONTACT INFORMATION, IT IS THE LOCAL CONTACT PERSON.
IT DOES PRESIDENT HAVE -- DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE OWNER.
IT IS WHO THEY LISTED AS THEIR LOCAL CONTACT PERSON ON THEIR APPLICATION. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE UP WHO THE OWNER MIGHT BE. THE OWNER COULD STAY ANONYMOUS, BUT IT IS WHO THEY LIST OWED THEIR APPLICATION -- LISTED ON THE APPLICATION TO BE THE LOCAL CONTACT PERSON FOR SOMEBODY TO REACH OUT TO THEM IF THERE IS AN ISSUE.
IT IS THE SAME FOR THE CITY. WE WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS THE LOCAL CONTACT PERSON. IF THERE IS A PERSON WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM, BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW WHO THEY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW JUST IN REGARD TO THOSE AMENDMENTS THERE.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HANG ON A SECOND. COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN,
FOR RIGHT NOW THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD IN REGARDS TO
THOSE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I WILL COME TO THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT.
>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I WANT TO KEEP THE SPIRIT AND THE ESSENCE OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE WITHOUT DELETING IT ALTOGETHER. AT THE SAME TIME I WAS LOOKING AT TRYING TO REDUCE THE COST FOR CITIZENS APPLYING FOR THAT PERMIT. HAVING SAID THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE THE CITY LOSE MONEY OFF THOSE PERMITS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME KEEP IT FOR THE CITIZENS I MOVE TO CHANGE THE FEE FROM $75 TO $100 VERSUS THE $150.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU MAY AMEND YOUR OWN AMENDMENT, SIR. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?
>> CHANGE THE FEE FROM $75 TO 100.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT IS ITEM NUMBER -- CHANGE IT FROM 150 AND INSTEAD OF 75 YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR OWN AMENDMENT TO WHAT? 100.
>> THE SPIRIT AND THE ESSENCE OF WHAT IS TRYING TO BE
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IMPLEMENTED IN THIS ORDINANCE AND ALLOWING THE CITY TO NOT LOSE MONEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, KEEPING THAT.>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR OWN --
>> IT IS AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR OWN AMENDMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: CAN WE GET COPIES OF THAT IN WRITING TO BE CONSISTENT? AND AS WE WAIT FOR COPIES OF THAT, THIS WOULD BE COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT'S AMENDMENT TO HIS ORIGINAL AMENDMENT FOR THE FEES -- THE APPLICATION FEE AND THE RENEWAL FEE. CHANGES DENOTED BY STARS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. NO, NOT YET.
WE HAVE COPIES OF COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT'S AMENDMENT TO HIS AMENDMENT. WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND OR DID WE DO THAT ALREADY? THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
IT HAS PROPERLY SECONDED TO -- FOR COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT TO AMEND HIS AMENDMENT AS DE NIGHTED IN -- DENOTED IN WRITING BY THE STARS BY THE FEES.
THE INITIAL APPLICATION FEE AND THE RENEWAL FEE.
I HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER? >> INDEED.
WHEREAS I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMAN KNIGHT HAS DONE WITH THIS AND TRYING TO SAVE THE CITY MONEY, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. THE ISSUE THAT I HAD WHEN I PUT IN THIS ORDINANCE WAS WITH A LOT MORE THAN JUST A FEW.
THIS AMENDMENT AND THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT ARE -- IT'S GOOD. IF WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THIS ORDINANCE IT IS GOOD FOR US TO AMENDMENT IT IN THESE WAYS.
BUT RIGHT NOW I AM ASKING THAT YOU GIVE MY ORDINANCE ITS FAIR SHAKE AND LET THIS BODY DECIDE IF THEY EVEN WANT THE ORDINANCE AT ALL. PLEASE VOTE DOWN THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER.
COUNCIL PERSON LITTLE, DID YOU WISH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT'S AMENDMENT TO HIS AMENDMENT?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ALL RIGHT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS WE'LL GO WITH THAT AND THEN WHAT SHE SAID DID ABOUT THE FEES AND HOW YOU CALCULATED THE FEES. WHEN YOU MENTIONED -- I AM NO WAY DOWNPLAYING THE ROLE OR THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT THIS PERSON DOES. YOU SAID THE CHIEF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HE PUT HIS FEES IN THERE OR THE HOURLY RATE.
IS THAT A SALARY JOB? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I AM NOT SURE IT MATTERS. WE ARE JUST CAL -- CALCULATING
THE COST TO THE CITY. >> IT JUST HAS TO GO WITH THE FEES SHE ADDED IN THERE. SHE SAID PART OF IT IS BECAUSE THEY CALCULATED IT WOULD COST HOW MUCH HOURLY.
BUT I DON'T THINK HOURLY PERTAINS TO THE FIRE CHIEF.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WELL, YOU CAN TAKE HIS SALARY AND DIVIDE IT BY THE NUMBER OF HOURS AND ARRIVE AT AN HOURLY RATE.
>> AND IS THIS ADDED TO HIS JOB RESPONSIBILITIES?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY ASSIGNED TO THE CLARKSVILLE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT AND CLARKS BUILDING CODE DEPARTMENT AND FINANCE
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AND REVENUE WHO WOULD THEN PROCESS PAYMENT AND PERMIT, ETTHAT'S WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE FEES.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MR. BAKER? >> I BELIEVE IT IS THE FIRE MARSHALL THAT DOES THE INSPECTION AND NOT THE FIRE CHIEF. THE WAY THAT -- THEY LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS AND TRIED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF HOW LONG DO THEY THINK IT MIGHT TAKE THEM TO DO THE INSPECTION.
AND THEN THEY TOOK THAT AMOUNT OF TIME AND FIGURED OUT WHAT HIS SALARY IS ON AN HOURLY BASIS TO COME UP WITH THAT
FIGURE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON LITTLE? >> JUST WANTED TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF THAT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE
AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? >> I HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE FEES
? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU HAVE TO -- WELL, HIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT ARE THE TWO
FEES, YES. >> WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THE FEES IS BECAUSE I HAD MY THING BUZZED BEFORE THEY CHANGED THE FEES IS WE PUT THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND I UNDERSTAND WE CAN BREAK DOWN EVERYBODY'S SALARY AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE PUT THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE WE CAN AT LEAST HALF THE COST WITH THE CONSTITUENT.
I WOULD THINK IT SHOULD GO BACK DOWN TO $75 AND BACK DOWN TO $70. WE PUT THIS IN PLACE.
I UNDERSTAND IT IS FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS, BUT THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING TAXES.
WHY ARE WE CHARGING THEM THE FULL PRICE FOR A SERVICE WE PUT IN PLACE? THAT'S ALL HAVE I TO SAY.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE AMENDMENT
TO THE AMENDMENT? >> I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
SPEAKING TO THE AMENDMENT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
WE ARE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> THAT'S JUST THE FEES, RIGHT?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: JUST THE FEES.
>> AND THEN IT GOES TO HIS ORIGINAL AMENDMENT?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IF IT PASSES.
OR NOT. COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, DO YOU
WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? >> YES, SIR.
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I THINK THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT GIVES COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TWO VERSUS THE INITIAL THAT I PRESENTED WITH THE 75.
IT ACTUALLY IS STILL BELOW THE PROPOSED COST OF 150.
IT GIVES A MEDIAN GROUND AND IT ALLOWS FOR AN AFFORDABLE PRICE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME NOT COSTING THE CITY MONEY.
ACTUALLY KEEPS MONEY IN THE TAXPAYERS' POCKETS AT THE SAME
TIME. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT. COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
THIS WAS JUST IN RESPONSE TO A PREVIOUS COMMENT.
YES, THEY ARE PAYING TAXES, WITHOUT A DOUBT.
BUT HOTELS AND MOTELS ARE PAYING TAXES AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR INSPECTIONS THAT THEY GET FROM BUILDING AND CODES AND FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MULTIPLE OTHER THINGS THEY HAVE TO INSPECT.
IT IS NOT LIKE IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM ANYBODY ELSE.
PEOPLE HAVE IN -- INSPECTIONS AND THEY ARE PAYING A FEE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS REGARDING THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? I SEE NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? I GUESS YOU ARE. ALL RIGHT.
MADAM CLERK, WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT -- ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT, HIS ORIGINAL AMENDMENT PERTAINING TO FEES.
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MR. LITTLE.
>> I. >> MS. SMITH MR. HOLLEMAN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT FAILS.
WE ARE BACK ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED ON THIS AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU.
I THINK AS WE SEEK TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE MAIN MOTION TO GEE -- TO DELETE THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE IN ENTIRETY. IF WE ARE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS, LET'S PROPOSE AMENDMENTS THAT MAKE IT BETTER WITHOUT REMOVING THE LAPPING WEDGE TO -- LANGUAGE TO DELETE
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IT. LET IT STAND ON ITS OWN TWO FEET. THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY ONTHAT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON REDD, DO YOU
WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? >> WITH THAT BEING SAID I CALL FOR THE QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
DULY SECRETARY -- SECONDED. CALLING ON THE QUESTION WHICH IS TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT HAS BEEN SECONDED. WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE ORIGINAL KNIGHT AMENDMENT.
NONDEBATEABLE, MADAM CLERK. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> 12 YES AND 1 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION PASSES. WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON?
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
MR. RICHMOND. MR. LITTLE MR. REDD.
>> MS. SMITH. >> MR. HOLLEMAN.
>> MS. ALLEN. >> MS. STREETMAN.
>> 3 YES AND 10 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: AMENDMENT FAILS. COUNCIL PERSON REDD YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> ARE WE ON THE MAIN QUESTION
NOW? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE ON
THE MAIN QUESTION. >> I CALL FOR THE QUESTION ON
THE MAIN QUESTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED ON THE MAIN QUESTION WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE BEFORE US AND WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE MAIN QUESTION. EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING? ALL RIGHT.
LET'S VOTE ON CEASING DISCUSSION.
>> PLEASE, YES. >> MR. LITTLE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION PASSES.
WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AS BEFORE US WHICH IS ORDINANCE 63. AND THAT IS COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S WITH NO AMENDMENTS. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S ORIGINAL ORDINANCE 63. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MR. LITTLE.
ONE ABSTAIN. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ORDINANCE 63 IS ADOPTED FIRST READING. WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS. IT IS ORDINANCE 64 AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE DESIGNATING JUNETEENTH AS A CITY HOLIDAY.
COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN IS THE SPONSOR.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. WE NEED A MOTION.
>> I MOVE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
THE MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 64 IS MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED AS BROUGHT BEFORE US.
DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE ORDINANCE.
>> ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS A OLE DAY -- A HOLIDAY
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AND I ASK MY FELLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SUPPORT THISRESOLUTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AND IT IS BEFORE US.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS.
I AM GOING TO TAKE THEM AS I HAVE THEM.
>> I AMEND ORDINANCE 64 JUNETEENTH AS A HOLIDAY.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION BEEN MADE.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCILMAN KNIGHT, YOU MAY
PROCEED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AUGUST 8TH EMANCIPATION DAY TO BE OBSERVED AS AN HAHN -- HONORARY DAY BY THE CITY.
CITY EMPLOYEES TO REPORT TO WORK AS NORMAL AND BE PAID AS NORMAL. IT WILL NOT ADD ANY EXTRA FEES, AND HONORING THE DAY OBSERVED BY THE STATE OF TENNESSEE ON AUGUST 8TH OF EACH YEAR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. IT HAS BEEN MOTIONED AND PROPERLY SECONDED TO ADOPT THIS AMENDMENT.
I HAVE PEOPLE ON THE LIST. COUNCIL PERSON SMITH.
DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON HIS AMENDMENT?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I AGREE WITH THE LAST SPEAKER. I GAVE A HISTORY ON AUGUST 8TH. THE DAY WAS RECOGNIZED WHO WAS THE MILITARY GOVERN WHO FREED HIS SLAVES ON AUGUST 8TH.
THE FIRST CELEBRATION WAS PUT ON ABOUT AUGUST 8TH IN 1871 BY SAM JOHNSON, ONE OF HIS FORMER SLAVES HE FREED.
AND ALSO I WOULD SAY THAT TENNESSEE GOVERNOR PHIL BRED DAWSON -- D -- BREDESON HONORED AND RECOGNIZED THE ACTION OF ANDREW JOHNSON, THE 17TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE MILITARY GOVERNOR.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EMANCIPATION DAY IN THE HISTORY OF TENNESSEE. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD ADD THIS TO WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL LADY HAS SAID ON JUNETEENTH.
I JUST THINK THEY BOTH SHOULD BOTH BE A PAID HOLIDAY AND
MAKE THEM LEGITIMATE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> THAT'S MY MOTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE WOULD
NEED THAT IN WRITING. >> IT IS.
YOU HAVE IT. EVERYBODY HAS IT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HANG ON. LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE IT.
COUNCIL PERSON SMITH HAS OFFERED AN AMENDMENT WE WOULD GET TO. MR. BAKER?
>> I WILL HAVE MS. SILL VOW YAW -- SYLVIA MAKE COPIES.
THIS WILL BE AN AMENDMENT. IT IS THE SMITH AMENDMENT TO THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT THAT WILL SIMPLY DELETE THE WORDS IN PAREN THAT YOU -- PARENTHESIS AFTER IT SIS AUGUST 8TH EMANCIPATION DAY. AND HE SAYS TO BE OBSERVED AS AN HONORARY DAY AND WILL BE PAID AS NORMAL AND THE PHRASE IN THE PARENTHITICAL STATEMENT WOULD BE UH MENLDED TO --
AMENDED TO HIS AMENDMENT. >> WE WILL WAY TO SEE IT
BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT. >> DO I DRAW A LINE?
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>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE SMITH AMENDMENT TO THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT? LET'S GO THROUGH IT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING. COUNCIL PERSON SMITH HAS MOVED AND IT HAS BEEN SECONDED TO AMEND COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT'S AMENDMENT. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS AUGUST 8TH EMANCIPATION DAY AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A PAID HOLIDAY FOR CITY EMPLOYEES IN ADDITION TO JUNETEENTH WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
AM I GETTING CLOSE? THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT ADDED A WHEREAS CLAUSE AND THE EMANCIPATION DAY WOULD BE CELEBRATED -- IS CELEBRATED IN TENNESSEE ON AUGUST 8TH.
DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
I HAVE A LIST OF FOLKS -- COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SMITH AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> NO, I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT, BUT I WILL MAKE A COMMENT. I THINK BOTH DAYS ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT IN OUR CULTURE AND BOTH HONORED AND RECOGNIZED AND BOTH COUNCIL PERSON IS MAKING IT A POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE HISTORY.
AND I APPLAUD YOU BOTH. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT. COUNCIL PERSON REDD?
>> I WILL SPEAK TO BOTH OF THEM AS WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I FULLY SUPPORT JUNETEENTH AND EMANCIPATION DAY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE COVID AND THE DECISION LAST YEAR TO CUT TO -- TO SHUTDOWN SOME OF THE BUSINESSES -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN CLARKSVILLE THAT IS HURTING. OF COURSE AS YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR INCOME AND HAVE REDUCTION IN PAY.
MANY HAVE A COMPLETE LOSS OF THEIR JOBS.
THEY HAVE A PROBLEM OF MAKING RENT.
THEY HAVE A PROBLEM MAKING THEIR MORTGAGE.
MANY OF THEM JUST FACE UNCERTAINTY EVERY DAY.
THAT'S PRIMARILY NOT THE CASE WITH THE FELLOW CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR GOVERNMENT.
AS I MENTIONED LAST THURSDAY, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. I BELIEVE THEY DO A GOOD JOB.
IN NO WAY DO I HAVE ANY CONTEMPT.
AND I HOPE IT IS NOT LOOKED AT IN THAT WAY.
I BELIEVE WE NEED GOVERNMENT, AND I AM ALL FOR GOVERNMENT, BUT DURING THE SHUTDOWN THEY GOT TO STILL GO TO WORK.
I BELIEVE LEGISLATION SHOULD BE PASSED, AND WHEN IT IS PASSED, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE FOR THOSE THAT WORK IN GOVERNMENT, IT SHOULD BE EQUALLY APPLIED TO THE CITIZENS AS WELL. FOR ME IT IS NOT RIGHT WE GIVE THE PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT A PAID DAY OFF WHILE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THE BAKER AND THE BRICKLAYER AND THE CITIZENS, THEY STILL HAVE TO GO TO WORK ON THAT DAY.
AGAIN, I SUPPORT JUNETEENTH AND I SUPPORT EMANCIPATION DAY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SOMEHOW SOMETHING IS TAKEN AWAY JUST BECAUSE THE CITIZENS THAT ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY STILL HAS TO GO TO WORK THAT DAY.
JUST LIKE THE CITIZENS OUT THERE IN OUR CITY.
I WON'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.
I WON'T SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION UNLESS IF IT PAYS OUR CITY
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EMPLOYEES AND DOES NOT -- LIKE IT DOES OUR CITIZENS.I WAIL SUPPORT IT WITHOUT A PAID HOLIDAY, JUST FOR THE ONE GROUP THAT OUR CITY EMPLOYS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REDD.
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE SMITH
I HAVE A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THIS JUST CAME UPON US. I KNOW THE PRICE TAG FOR JUNETEENTH IS ALREADY STATED AS BEING $169,000.
THAT WAS CALCULATED. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PRICE TAG WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH AUGUST 8TH? IS IT GOING TO BE THE SAME? WOULD IT BE DIFFERENT?
ARE WE ABLE TO ASK? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. YOU L GIVING ANOTHER -- YOU
ARE GIVING ANOTHER HOLIDAY. >> I WAS JUST CHECKING ON
THAT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OFFICE IS CLOSED, BUT YOU ARE PAYING OVERTIME HOLIDAY PAY FOR OUR 24-HOUR EMPLOYEES, POLICE, FIRE, WATERS WATER, WATER TREATMENT, ET CETERA. WHILE IT SOUNDS GREAT TO GIVE TWO HOLIDAYS, IT WILL BE A HIT TO THE BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY.
>> THAT FALLS ON A SUNDAY AS WELL.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WELL IT WOULD BE HONORED LIKE ANY OTHER HOLIDAY ON A SUNDAY, IT WOULD BE HONORED ON A MONDAY.
IT WOULD BE A DAY OFF. >> WOULD THAT MEAN IN SOME INSTANCES THAT SOME WOULD GET TWO DAYS WORTH OF HOLIDAY PAY
AND AGAIN IT WOULD NOT -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NO.
THIS IS -- I'M SORRY. I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
>> I APOLOGIZE. I WAS THINKING FOR GAS AND WATER FOR THOSE THAT WORK IN THE SEWER DEPARTMENT, I WAS THINKING THAT THE WAY IT WORKED AND I COULD BE INCORRECT ON THAT THAT THOSE THAT WORK ON SUNDAY WOULD GET HOLIDAY PAY AS WELL AS THOSE THAT WORK ON MONDAY SEEING
THAT IT IS 24/7. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE CITY CALENDAR FOR CITY EMPLOYEES WOULD REFLECT WHEN THE HOLIDAY WOULD BE HONORED AND OBSERVED. AND THAT DAY WOULD BE
CONSIDERED HOLIDAY PAY. >> THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON LITTLE, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE SMITH
AMENDMENT? >> NOT REALLY -- YES.
I WAS JUST SAYING -- THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO. WOULD IT BE OBSERVED ON A WEEKDAY. THAT'S IT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
WE ARE NOW AT COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.
DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORICAL PERSONS OF BOTH THESE DATES, BUT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR TAXPAYERS, I THINK WE SHOULD ONLY SUPPORT ONE HOLIDAY.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE JUNE 19TH HOLIDAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY DECIDED TO DO.
I APPRECIATE COUNCIL PERSON SMITH AND COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN FOR BRINGING THESE FORWARD, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE OWE AN ACCOUNTABILITY TO OUR COMMUNITY IN THE NUMBER OF HOLIDAYS WE GRANT. I THINK THAT IT SHOULD ONLY BE
ONE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK
YOU. >> AND WE SHOULD -- AND WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE AUGUST 8TH.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.
COUNCIL PERSON EVANS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I FIRST WANT TO SAY THAT JASON AND I DON'T AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE
PREVIOUS SPEAKER? >> WHYY -- YES, ALL OF IT.
WE DON'T AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I APPRECIATE HIS AMENDMENT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE COUNCIL PERSON SMITH AND HER BRINGING HISTORY INTO THIS CONVERSATION AND THE APPRECIATION THAT SHOULD GO WITH THAT EMANCIPATION DAY. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE TAXPAYERS' BURDEN ON MAKING BOTH OF THESE DAYS A HOLIDAY, BUT THEN I THOUGHT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER HOLIDAYS THAT WERE MADE BECAUSE OF WHITE COLONIZERS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT BOTH OF THESE DAYS ARE IMPORTANT.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PAY BACK THE PEOPLE THAT THIS DAY WAS CREATED FOR. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON EVANS.
COUNCIL PERSON HOLLEMAN? >> THANK YOU.
I WILL JUST MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT.
I WOULD LIKE THE NON-AMENDED AMENDMENT, WHICH JUST SAYS JUNETEENTH IS THE PAID HOLIDAY AND THEN JUST RECOGNIZE EMANCIPATION DAY. I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE HAVING TWO PAID HOLIDAYS, ESPECIALLY A HIT TO THE BUDGET AND IT IS
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TO THE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. THAT'S IT, MAYOR.>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> SO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO SUPPORT BOTH HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL WOMAN SMITH. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT AS FOR -- A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS WITH GOVERNMENT IS WE SET THE STANDARD. IF WE WANT TO SEE OUR PRIVATE BUSINESSES SUPPORT THIS DAY EVENTUALLY, WE HAVE TO SAY THAT IT IS OKAY AS A CITY. WE HAVE TO SAY IT IS OKAY AS A COUNTY. EVENTUALLY IT WILL GO UP AND MAYBE IT WILL BECOME A NATIONAL HOLIDAY.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. BUT ALSO, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO SHOW OUR CITY. THAT'S HOW THESE OTHER HOLIDAYS STARTED. WE HAVE PRIVATE INDUSTRIES THAT DO NOT GET A PAID HOLIDAY ON COLUMBUS DAY, DO NOT GET A PAID HOLIDAY ON PRESIDENT'S DAY.
THAT IS CHAIR -- THEIR CHOICE AS A PRIVATE INDUSTRY.
THIS IS GOVERNMENT. WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS WE ARE SETTING THE STANDARD AND SHOULDN'T SAY THAT THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO THIS.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.
>> COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO MY AMENDMENT. BASED ON LOOKING AT THIS, THESE TWO MONTHS ARE NOT CONSECUTIVE.
ONE IS IN JUNE. WE KNOW WE HAVE HARD-WORKING EMPLOYEES AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE RIGHT TO PAY THEM ON THOSE HOLIDAYS. THEY ARE NOT CONSECUTIVE.
ONE IS JUNE AND ONE IS AUGUST.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH GIVING THEM PAY FOR THAT? AND THEN I HEARD SOMEONE SAY IT IS A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS. I DON'T SEE HOW.
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IT WAS NOT A BURDEN WHEN WE SAID WE WANTED TO VOTE FOR THE ROXY THEATER WITH FOUR LIENS ON IT.
THAT PRIVATE ENTITY WAS NOT A BURDEN TO PUT THAT ON THE TAXPAYERS. I'M JUST SPEAKING TRUTH.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING, ALL YOU SAID, BUT IT WASN'T A BURDEN FOR US TO VOTE FOR THE ROXY UNDER FOUR LIENS.
SO WHEN WE SAY WE WANT TO PAY PEOPLE FOR BLACK HISTORY, INSTEAD OF -- A DAY SET ASIDE TO FREE SLAVES, WE GOT A PROBLEM. NOW, IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT I'M THROWING THAT OUT THERE. IT ALWAYS BECOMES A BURDEN WHEN WE WANT TO PAY SOMEBODY FOR SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO. BUT IT WAS NOT A MURDER WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ROXY. OH, I DON'T THINK IT IS A BURDEN. AND IT WASN'T A BURDEN WHEN MS. -- THE OTHER SPEAKER SAID, WELL, LET'S KEEP THIS UP TO $120 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS THE FIREMEN AND THE PEOPLE WOULD WENT OUT THERE AND DONE THE INVESTIGATION TO SEE HOW MUCH WE SHOULD CHARGE PEOPLE FOR THE AIRBNB.
IT WASN'T A PROBLEM. SO WHY SHOULD IT BE A PROBLEM WHEN WE WANT TO PAY CITY EMPLOYEES FOR BLACK HISTORY REMEMBRANCE. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. WE ARE -- COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, DID YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED?
>> NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED TO CEASE DISCUSSION.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SECOND. PROPERLY SECONDED.
AND WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE SMITH AMENDMENT TO THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT.
THIS IS MERELY TO CEASE DISCUSSION.
ARE YOU READY TO -- WELL, ARE YOU READY OR NOT? WE HAVE TO VOTE. MADAM CLERK.
WE HAVE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION.
>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MR. LITTLE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION IS ADOPTED AND WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE SMITH AMENDMENT TO THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT. EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON? WE DECLARE A JUNETEENTH AND AUGUST 8TH AS OFFICIAL PAID CITY HOLIDAYS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES. MADAM CLERK.
TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
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>> MISS REYNOLDS. >> MISS STREETMAN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. THAT AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
WE ARE NOW ON THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AS AMENDED.
THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT. WE ARE ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT AS AMEND AMENDED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. BAKER. ANY QUESTION AS THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT AS MENDED. HANG ON.
MR. BAKER, WILL YOU HELP LEAD US HERE?
>> THE ORIGINAL KNIGHT AMENDMENT NAMED AUGUST 8TH AS EMANCIPATION DAY, BUT IT WAS TO BE UNPAID.
AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER SMITH MADE AN AMENDMENT TO THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT THAT JUST PASSED TO TURN AUGUST 8TH EMANCIPATION DAY INTO A PAID HOLIDAY.
SO NOW YOU ARE ON COUNCILMEMBER KNIGHT'S AMENDMENT AS AMENDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SMITH AND WHAT IT DOES IS ESTABLISH -- HIS AMENDMENT AMENDS ORDINANCE 64, COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN'S ORDINANCE BY ADDING AS A PAID HOLIDAY AUGUST 8TH AS EMANCIPATION DAY.
HER ORIGINAL ORDINANCE SIMPLY NAMED JUNE -- JUNETEENTH AS A
PAID HOLIDAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: GOT IT?
>> SO YOU ARE VOTING NOW ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: AS AMENDED.
>> AS AMENDED. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON REDD. >> SO IF IT WERE TO FAIL IT WOULD BE TAKEN OFF, THE AMENDMENT PROPOSED BY COUNCIL WOMAN SMITH. IF THE --
>> IF THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT FAILS YOU ARE BACK ON 64 WITHOUT AMENDMENTS AND ALL 64 DOES IS ESTABLISH AS A PAID HOLIDAY JUNE 19TH AT JUNETEENTH.
>> GOT YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WILL JUST ECHO WHAT WAS STATED.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE HISTORY HERE.
I MADE MY PROPOSAL TO HAVE IT BE A NONPAID DAY.
THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH. COUNCIL PERSON SMITH'S AMENDMENT WENT THROUGH. NOW IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. GET THIS PASSED HOWEVER IT IS YOU GUYS DECIDED TO MAKE IT WHICH IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
I CALL FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. MEANING WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
NONDEBATEABLE. MADAM CLERK, WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE WHEN YOU ARE READY.
>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MR. LITTLE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION IS PASSED.
WE ARE NOW ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
WE ARE VOTING ON THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? YES YOU ARE BECAUSE WE JUST CEASED DISCUSSION. I'M TALKING TO MYSELF UP HERE. MADAM CLERK, WHENEVER YOU ARE
>> MS. STREETMAN. >> MS. EVANS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE KNIGHT AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.
WE ARE NOW ON THE ORDINANCE 64 AS AMENDED.
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE
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ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AS AMENDED?>> YES, SIR. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ARE YOU
AGAIN, I AM KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT HERE. WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE DAYS IS GOING TO BE $170,000. MY QUESTION WOULD BE WITH -- AUGUST 8TH AT LEAST FALLS IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR AND THE DEPARTMENTS CAN BUDGET FOR THAT.
IN REGARD TO THIS YEAR THOUGH, AND MAYBE A SPONSOR CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET, AND SPECIFICALLY THINKING OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY CREATED THEIR BUDGETS WITHOUT KNOWING HOW THEY WERE -- THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THIS IN
HERE? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT?
>> SURE. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY CAN PERSONALLY DO IF THE MONEY IS NOT IN THE BUDGET, BUT WE ARE THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE COULD DO A BUDGETARY VISION.
>> THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE
APPROPRIATE. >> IT WOULD BE BEFORE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THEY WOULD HAVE BROKE THAT DOWN AND LET US KNOW WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND SEE IF IT WOULD COST THE DEPARTMENT ANYTHING OR IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE ANYTHING UP.
YOU KNOW WE -- DO YOU KNOW WHEN WE HAVE TO AMEND THE
BUDGET BY? >> NO, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. I WILL DO THAT BY THE NEXT
JUST CURIOUS ON THAT. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD TO STATE THAT I DID PROVIDE THIS DAY AT NO EXTRA ADDED COST TO THE CITY AND TO OUR
TAXPAYERS. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU,
COUNCIL PERSON REDD. >> WE ARE ON THE MAIN YES --
MAIN QUESTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE ON
THE MAIN QUESTION. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY AS WE THINK OF JANUARY 1ST AND EMANCIPATION DAY, JANUARY IS THE MONTH THAT IF YOU GET A CHANCE YOU CAN GO ON THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT WEBSITE TO THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE ARE STILL SOME 25 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD INCLUDING SOME IN THE UNITED STATES THAT IS STILL IN SLAVERY TODAY. KEEP THOSE IN YOUR PRAYERS.
IT IS TERRIBLE TO THINK THAT THAT STILL GOES ON TODAY.
THERE IS A LINK ON THERE WHERE YOU CAN COMMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I AM GOING TO ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF A PREVIOUS SPEAKER IN THAT I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THIS TO HAVE BEEN ONE DAY, BUT I WILL NOT TREAD
ON THE SPORNS OF THIS DAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON SMITH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> WE ARE VOTING ON JUNE 19TH FOR A PAID
HOLIDAY? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDED MOTION WHICH IS TO MAKE JUNETEENTH AND EMANCIPATION DAY, AUGUST 8TH AS PAID CITY
I THOUGHT WE VOTED THAT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE HAVE AN -- WE HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ? WE AMENDED. WE VOTED ON THE AMENDMENT AND NOW WE ARE ON THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AS AMENDED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE AS AMENDED? SEEING NONE ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> 10 YES AND 3 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
THE ORDINANCE 64 IS ADOPTED FIRST READING.
WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON NEW BUSINESS, ORDER -- ORDINANCE 72 AMENDING FY21 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET TO DELETE FUNDING FOR THE ROXY REGIONAL THEATER OPERATING EXPENSE. COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR 72-2020-21 TO DELETE THE FUNDING FOR THE ROXY THEATER OPERATION
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE FOR ORDINANCE 72 AND PROPERLY SECONDED. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SOME OF THE REASONS FOR THIS AS WE UH -- AS WE ADAPTED TO IT WITH THE CORRESPONDENCE
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BETWEEN THE ROXY THEET -- THEATER AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THE DIFFERENT ONES IN THE PROCESS, SOME OF THE THINGS I NOTICED WAS JUST THAT THE PROCESS WASN'T DONE QUITE EQUITABLE TO OTHER NONPROFITS THAT WERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF HOW THIS KIND OF CAME TO BE. 2017 WE HAD SEVERAL NON-PROFITS THAT RECEIVED FUNDING.THEY WERE NO LONGER FUNDING NONPROFITS AND IT ALLOWED THE TAXPAYERS TO DECIDE HOW THEY WANTED CONTRIBUTIONS SPENT.
IN PHYSICIAN WALL YEAR -- IN FISCAL YEAR 2021, THE ROXY WAS ABLE TO SUBMIT A REQUEST NOT THROUGH OUR TYPICAL PROCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, US PUTTING OUT AN RFP PROPOSAL TO ENABLE SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO APPLY FOR FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $180,000. WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY WE WERE DISTRIBUTING BETWEEN CASH ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 ORGANIZATIONS.
THERE WERE SOME YEARS IT WASN'T AFTERNOON $-- WASN'T EVEN $180,000 AND NOW WE ARE GIVING IT TO ONE NONPROFIT.
THE VALUE OF WHAT THE ROXY DOES IN TERMS OF MAYBE THE ENTERTAINMENT AND THE LESSONS LEARNED AND HAVE EDUCATIONAL VALUE TO THEM. WE HAVE SOME AMAZING NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE MEETING ACTUAL NEEDS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS FOR PROVIDING FOOD AND FOR PROVIDING SHELTER AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE. AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS UNPRECEDENTED TIME IN COVID AND PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET WE ARE AWARDING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO A NONPROFIT THAT PROVIDES ENTERTAINMENT THAT CURRENTLY ISN'T PROVIDING THAT ENTERTAINMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE NEGLECTING THE NONPROFITS THAT ACTUALLY WOULD PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THOSE IN NEED OF UH SIS -- ASSISTANCE. THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN LEVERAGING FUNDS FROM THE VARIOUS SERVICES -- SOURCES FROM PPE FUNDS AND PAYROLL AND REACHING OUT TO THE CIBD AND GETTING FUNDS. I BELIEVE THERE WAS ANOTHER 35,000 IN AUGUST. I DON'T SEE WHERE THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO FUND WHERE OTHER NONPROFITS ARE ADMINISTERING TO THE NEED OF THE LESS FORTUNATE AND MOST VULNERABLE POLL LAYINGSES. AND SO FOR THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT IN CUTTING OFF THE REMAINING FUNDING WHICH I BELIEVE AMOUNTS TO ABOUT $60,000 AND IF THE ROXY WANTS TO APPLY, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE IT AN EQUITABLE PROCESS AND LET ALL OF THE COMMUNITY NONPROFITS APPLY FOR FUNDING AND HAVE A PROCESS TO APPROVE IT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GARRETT.
TO ADD CLARITY TO THE POINT THIS WAS A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE WERE BUILDING WITH THE ROXY IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. THIS WAS NOT JUST MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TO A NONPROFIT IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE MEET A LOT OF NEEDS FOR THE OFFICE AND WE MAKE DIRECT GRANTS FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES TO NONPROFITS.
THIS WAS A MEANS TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP AND BRING THEM IN AS A COMPONENT UNIT, MUCH LIKE THE MUSEUM.
YOU HAVE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND JUST LIKE THE SENIOR CENTER WHERE WE SUBSIDIZED THE OPERATIONS TO PROVIDE A SPECIFIC SERVICE TO A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS NOT AS IF WE WERE JUST WRITING A CHECK AND HANDING THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE ROXY. WE WERE SUBSIDIZING THEM KNOWING WE WERE ENTERING A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM TO GROW OUT A SPECIFIC SERVICE WE FELT WAS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO BUILD QUALITY OF LIFE.
THAT'S WHERE THE PREMISE CAME FROM.
>> I GUESS JUST TO INQUIRE, IN THE GRANT TO THEM THOUGH IN PROVIDING THEM A SERVICE, FOR $180,000, WHAT SERVICE WAS
PROVIDED TO OUR COMMUNITY? >> IN ORDER TIMES, AND WE ALL KNOW THESE ARE NOT ORDINARY TIMES, BUT THEY WOULD PROVIDE THEATER, SERVICE AND TRAINING TO YOUTH, ADULTS, SENIORS AND OTHERS, BUT MUCH LIKE PRIVATE BUSINESS AS WELL AS NONPROFITS AND OTHER GROUPS HAVE GOTTEN FEDERAL MONEY AND AS YOU MENTIONED PPP AND THE OTHER INITIALS OUT THERE AND THAT IS
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TO OFFSET WHATEVER EXPENSE OR REVENUE THEY HAVE LOST AS A RESULT OF BEING CLOSED OR BEING HAMPERED BY THE PANDEMIC. THAT'S THE SERVICE THEY WOULD HAVE RENDERED. THIS WAS BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING IN AND NOW THEY ARE BUYING THE BUILDING AND THEY WILL SEEK A PLACE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE WHILE A NEW BUILDING WAS BEING BUILT.>> AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT THE CITY WAS CULTIVATING, WHEN WE LOOK HISTORICALLY UNDER PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS RNTION THIS -- THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT NEVER REALLY HAD FULL SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL AS A BODY TO DO, AND SO THERE MAY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS CENTERED AROUND POSSIBLY WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO DO A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER? BUT PART OF THE DELAY IN THIS EVER BEING CULTIVATED, BUT THE FULL BODY OF THE COUNCIL WAS NOT CONVINCED THIS WAS THE DIRECTION THE CITY NEEDED TO GO IN. YOU KNOW, I CAN -- NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM -- THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A DISCUSSION THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED BETWEEN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE ROXY, BUT IT CERTAINLY WASN'T -- I CONSIDER US TO KIND OF BE THE CITY BECAUSE WE ARE ELECTED BY ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY TO REPRESENT IT. THAT WAS NEVER REALLY AN EXPRESSED INTENT THAT WE NECESSARILY SAID, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE THIS RELATIONSHIP.
PRIOR COUNCIL SAID WE HAVE NEVER GONE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE. THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES ME PAUSE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD THEM BEING A COME PONE INEPT UNIT FOR -- COMPONENT UNIT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE IS NOT NECESSARILY WE AS IN ALL OF US. WE WAS MAYBE A SUBLET GROUP THAT DESIRED THAT PARTICULAR OUTCOME WITHOUT THE TOTAL BODY
OF THE FULL BODY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: FAIR ENOUGH. REGARDING THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT.
REGARDING THE LEASE WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS HERE SHORTLY, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT. REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING, TWO DIFFERENT CITY COUNCILS APPROVED THAT.
IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT, AS YOU SAID, PRIOR TO ME SITTING IN THIS CHAIR. AND NOW WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO.
I MEAN, WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO.
YOU'VE HEARD THAT TONIGHT. I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND GETTING A BUILDING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN USE AND NOT JUST FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND BROUGHT BEFORE THE BODY AND APPROVED. THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THE PIECES TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS AT ALL. IT WAS NOT JUST A RUN OF THE MILL NONPROFIT AND WE GAVE THEM $180,000.
IT WAS A RELATIONSHIP WE WERE MAKING IN TAKING THE STEPS TOWARD PURCHASING THE BUILDING AND THEN THINKING ABOUT A NEW FACILITY AND FIGURING OUT HOW BIG IT IS AND WHO IT WAS GOING TO SERVE AND HOW FLEXIBLE IT WOULD BE AND GOING FROM THERE. OKAY.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU JUST SAID. IN FACT, YOU JUST SPOKE A LITTLE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT.
IN REGARD TO THE FUNDING GIVEN TO THE ROXY REGIONAL THEATER IT WAS PUT IN THE BUDGET AMENDED IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU MAYBE TO LOOK BACK. ALL OF THE AGENDAS ARE AVAILABLE IN HERE FOR US THAT INCLUDES THE MINUTES.
YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY WITHOUT DISCUSSION IN REGARD TO THE 180,000.
IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT SURPRISING TO SEE IT COME BACK NOW HAVING THE DISCUSSION IN REGARD TO WANTING TO TAKE THAT AWAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE SEVEN NEW MEMBERS, BUT THE FIVE MEMBERS WHO WERE HERE ALL VOTED FOR IT AND DIDN'T QUESTION IT AT THAT TIME.
AND TALKING ABOUT THE SERVICES THEY OFFERED EVEN DURING THE PANDEMIC DURING THIS FALL, THEY WERE KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THE SCHOOL SYSTEM CLOSED AND WENT VIRTUAL AND THEY HAD TO STOP THEIR CLASSES AS WELL. IN THE FALL THEY WERE GOING WITH 60 STUDENTS. THEY NORMALLY AVERAGE 80 TO 90 EACH SEMESTER. THEY COVER THINGS SUCH AS ACTING, DANCING, IMPROVE, PLAY WRITING, MUSICAL THEATER, STAGE MANAGEMENT, SOUND DESIGN , QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY DID HAVE. AND THEY ALSO HAD WEDNESDAY AND SATURDAY BOOK READINGS FOR FREE AS WELL.
EVEN DURING A TIME WHEN THEY COULDN'T BE PUTTING ON PLAYS AND DOING EVERYTHING ELSE THEY WERE STILL OFFERING SERVICES TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT THAT
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ABOUT -- BEFORE WE TAKE AWAY FUNDING THAT THIS COUNCIL SAID WE WOULD GIVE THEM AND COMMITTED TO GIVING TO THEM.I THINK IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENCE FOR US TO TURN AROUND, AND I REALIZE THAT WE DO HAVE NEW MEMBERS ON HERE, BUT I THINK IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENCE TO TURN AROUND AND TAKE THAT AWAY. I REALIZE THAT -- THEY HAVE BUDGETED FOR THAT. IT HAS BEEN REFERENCED IF THINGS IN REGARD TO THEY WERE ALMOST ON FORECLOSURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAS BEEN PRODUCED TO SHOW US THAT. ALSO IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY TOOK PPP LOANS. WELL, I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF THE BUSINESSES IN THIS TOWN TOOK PPP LOANS SO IT DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANY DIFFERENT FROM ANYBODY ELSE.
I THINK EVERYBODY LOOKED FOR ANY KIND OF FUNDING THEY COULD GET, ANYWHERE THEY COULD GET IT, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HOLD IT AGAINST THEM FOR THAT.
AND IT WAS REFERENCED BY THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE GIVING FUNDING TO THE MUSEUM AND FUNDING TO THE AJAX SEENER IS CITIZEN TURNER.
THE MUSEUM HAD TO BE TURNED AROUND AND THE AJAX SENIOR CITIZEN -- THANK YOU. THE SENIOR CENTER.
JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT AS EVERYBODY THINKS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE REMAINING FUNDING LEFT.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND. ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. A COUPLE OF INSIGHTS.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE LISTENING PUBLIC AND I SHOULD HAVE ASKED MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE $180,000.
YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE, BUT LET THE RECORD REFLECT ABOUT THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL WAS RUSHING TO A DECISION.
AS I WENT BACK TO STUDY OUT HOW DID THIS -- YEAH, WHY DID I VOTE YES ON THIS? I WASN'T VERY CLEAR AS IT SLIPPED IN UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA AS TO WHEN THIS WHOLE THING CAME UP. IF I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK I WOULD AMEND MY VOTE KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW.
I WILL DO A BETTER JOB AT MANAGE -- MANAGING MY QUESTIONS AND INQUIRIES MOVING FORWARD AS I MOVE FORWARD ON THIS COUNCIL. I AGREE, AND WE MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THEY DID US A FAVOR BY PROVIDING THIS SERVICE.
THIS WAS NOT A NONPROFIT. THIS IS A FOR PROFIT ENTITY AT THE TIME THAT WAS STILL A NONPROFIT OPERATING IN THE PRY -- PRIVATE SECTOR. I MAY HAVE SOME OF THAT WRONG. IT IS NOT LIKE THEY WERE PROVIDING A SERVICE AND TO KEEP COME -- COMPARING SENIOR CITIZENS WHO AREN'T OPTING TO PURCHASE A TICKET TO A PER -- PERFORMANCE AND MAKING IT EQUAL TO THEATER PERFORMANCE AND TICKETS AND EDUCATION. EQUAL BOTH ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT, IT IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
OUR SENIORS, JUST LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RACIAL DIVERSITY, RACIAL DIVERSITY AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION ARE NOT THE SAME.
IT IS KIND OF INCENSE -- INSENSITIVE TO LUMP THEM IN THE SAME BUCKET. TO ME TO PUT OUR SENIORS AT THE AJAX SENIOR CENTER AND USE THEM AS A PAWN IN OUR ARGUMENT IS DIS TASTEFUL. COUNCILMAN, WE NEED YOU TO STICK TO THE AMENDMENT AND NOT MAKE IT PERSONAL.
>> THAT'S TO THE MY INTENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
YEAH. I ASK WE LOOK AT THIS AND I HAVE SOME OTHER POINTS TO MAKE ON A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. HOW CAN YOU NOT CALL IT SUPPORTING SOMEONE WHO IS FISCALLY IN THE BLACK IF THEY KEEP BORROWING MONEY? I WOULDN'T HAVE TO BORROW MONEY IF I WASN'T IN TROUBLE. I WOULDN'T HAVE TO KEEP TAKING OUT LOANS. I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE HIT DUE TO COVID, AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
BUT YEAH A LOT OF SWIRL FOR ME.
AND SO I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THIS ANY LONGER THIS CURRENT ORDINANCE. THANK YOU.
I HAVE SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS -- I ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS LISTEN TO THESE POINTS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AND I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED AND FRUSTRATED. IF IT WAS INDEED VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO BE PROCESSED, WHY ARE WE NOW VOTING ON IT AGAIN? IT DOES SEEM LIKE NOT AN
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EQUITABLE THING TO DO TO THIS COMPANY.I WOULD ASK COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, WHY BRING THIS FORWARD NOW WHEN YOU VOTED FOR IT AND YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE RELYING ON THE BUDGET? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, DO YOU WISH TO
SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WHEN THIS CAME IT WAS VOTE OWED A STATUS QUO BUDGET AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE TAX IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE TO THE CITY.
WE LATER CAME BACK IN A SHORTER BUDGET TIME SPAN AND PASSED THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE ARE OPERATING UNDER.
TYPICALLY FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND WHAT I AM USED TO TO SEEING ON THE BUDGETS IS WHEN NONPROFITS REQUEST FUNDING THEY ARE IN A DIFFERENT SPOT ON OUR BUDGET.
WE HAVE SOME IN THE PARTICULAR AREA.
THIS WASN'T LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM THAT SAID, HEY, WE ARE VOTING ON AND WE ARE APPROVING SPECIFICALLY THE ROXY TO GET THIS MONEY FOR OPERATIONAL COSTS.
IT WAS LUMPED IN WITH THE COMPONENTS THAT FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS -- WE KNOW THE MUSEUMS WILL GET THEIR MONEY.
WE UNDERSTAND THE AJAX CENTER WILL GET THEIR MONEY.
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO. CALL IT HAVING FALL ASLEEP BEHIND THE WHEEL, I JUST DIDN'T NOTICE THE FACT THAT IT WAS PARTICULARLY IN THERE. JUST WITH ALL THE RECENT ACTIVITY ON IT AND THE E-MAILS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH HAS CAUSED US TO TAKE A DEEPER LOOK INTO WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN THERE.
THAT'S AN AREA, LIKE I SAID, IN REFERENCE TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER IF I CAN DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN, I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE ASKED SOME MORE CONSTRUCTIVE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO WHY WE CHOSE AT THIS JUNCTURE TO ADD THEM AS A COME PONE INEPT -- COMPONENT UNIT.
THAT'S A QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ASKED.
HINDSIGHT IS 20/20. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS?
>> YES. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT THIS AND THE LEASE WERE VOTED ON BY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND NOW THE MEMBERS OF THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL ARE THE ONES BRINGING IT BACK UP AND ASKING US TO GET INVOLVED.
IT IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATING FOR ME PERSONALLY.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.
COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WOULD IT BE VISIBLE TO PROBABLY POSTPONE THIS TO A LATER DATE TO MAYBE A SPECIAL SESSION WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS IN DETAIL ADNAUSEAM ALL OF THE DETAILS OF WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN REGARDS TO
THIS ORDINANCE? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IF YOU WANT TO OFFER A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR SESSION THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT REGULAR SESSION WHICH WOULD BE MARCH.
PROPERLY SECONDED. DISCUSSION ON THE POSTPONEMENT. I HAVE A UP IN OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE POSTPONE MEANT MOTION?
>> NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE POSTPONE MEANT MOTION?
>> NO, SIR. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE POSTPONE MEANT
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, DO YOU WISH
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS TOPIC WITH THE ROXY HAS BEEN DEBATED ADNAUSEAM AND RESEARCHED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I DON'T THINK 30 ADDITIONAL DAYS OF ASKING QUESTIONS. THE ROXY WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO HOST A LISTENING SESSION AND PROVIDING US A PRESENTATION. MS. MADA HAS BEEN GRACIOUS WITH RESPONDING TO THE ONSLO -- ONSLAUGHT OF E-MAILS AND A LOT WERE FROM OUR NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ASKED QUESTIONS AND GOT THE WHEELS TURNING AND SHOWED US WE HAVE TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THIS.
I DON'T SEE WHAT AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS IS GOING TO DO AS FAR AS UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT AND THE R O -- THE ROXY BOARD HAS CALLED US ALL AND BEING OPEN TO DIALOGUE AND ANSWER ANY CONCERNS WE HAVE.
I JUST THINK HERE TONIGHT WE NEED TO SETTLE IT FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL. IF WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, THE SAME LEASE AND THE SAME FUNDING TO GO ALONG WITH THE BUILDING. THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK TODAY IS THE DAY. WE ARE ALL INFORMED.
WE NEED TO MAKE OUR INFORMED DECISIONS TONIGHT AND JUST BE
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DONE WITH IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.CLARKSVILLE WILL MOVE FORWARD.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT.
COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION TO
I JUST AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A DECISION I QUO SAY -- AND I WOULD SAY IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO CORRECT A WRONG.
IF NEVER TOO LATE IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE TO CORRECT IT.
I WOULD SAY WITH THAT, POSTPONING IS LINGERING IT AND PROLONGING IT. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUE AT HAND. WE HAD FULL DISCUSSION.
WE HAD FULL DISCUSSION OF THIS ROXY.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON SMITH. WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE. IT IS TO THE MARCH REGULAR SESSION. WE ARE VOTING TO POSTPONE ORDINANCE 72. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE.
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO POSTPONE FAILS AND WE ARE BACK ON THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. COUNCIL PERSON REDD, ARE YOU
RECOGNIZE. >> I CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR DO I HEAR A SECOND? WE HEAR A SECOND.
THE MOTION IS TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THIS ORDINANCE.
IT IS NONDEBATABLE. WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION. IF YOU WISH TO CEASE DISCUSSION VOTE YES. IF YOU WISH TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT VOTE NO. MADAM CLERK.
TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> 7 YES AND 6 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I THINK IT REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS. SO IT FAILS FOR LACK OF TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY SO WE ARE BACK ON THE MOTION.
ARE WE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE OR THE MAIN MOTION?
>> MAIN MOTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE BACK ON COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT'S MAIN MOTION.
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> I WANT TO CLEAR UP SOME INFORMATION FROM EARLIER THAT WAS STATED. THIS WAS NOT IN A CONSENT AGENDA. THIS WAS IN A SPECIAL SESSION. I KNOW YOU ALL -- WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE BUDGET PROCESS WORKS AND EVERYTHING.
THIS WAS TWO MEETINGS THAT WE HELD IN OCTOBER.
AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK BACK IN THE INFORMATION.
IT WAS HELD IN OCTOBER, TWO MEETINGS AND SEPARATE LINE ITEM THAT SPECIFICALLY BROKE IT DOWN FOR THE $180,000.
GOING BACK TO COMPARING IT. IT IS NOT COMPARING SENIORS TO THEATER GOERS. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS COMPONENTS OF THE CITY AND YES WE DO HAVE SENIORS THAT GO TO THE SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE CHILDREN THAT GO TO CLASSES AND GO TO SEE DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE ROXY.
HAVE I SEEN BUSS AND BUSS AND BUSES IN THE YEARS I WORKED DOWNTOWN GOING TO THE ROXY. WE ARE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. WE ARE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES. THEY ARE STILL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY GETTING TO BENEFIT FROM HAVING THIS COMPONENT IN THERE. IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENT TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THE MONEY TO THE ROXY AND ALLOW THEM TO BUDGET FOR IT AND THEN A FEW MONTHS LATER ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGE OUR MIND AND SAY, WAIT, NEVER MIND.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT MONEY WE COMMITTED TO GIVING YOU. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAVE THE FUNDING IN THERE. IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN NEXT BUDGET YEAR. THIS HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO THEM AND I SAY WE STAY WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN SH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> MINE IS MORE A QUESTION THAN A DISCUSSION.
THE QUESTION IS DID OTHER CITY ENTITIES TAKE PPP FUNDING?
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>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: DESCRIBE WHAT YOU MEAN BY CITY
ENTITIES. >> WE ARE SAYING THAT WE HAVE BEEN TREATING THE ROXY LIKE A CITY ENTITY.
WE HAVE BEEN GIVING -- WE GAVE THEM $180,000, RIGHT?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NOT YET. >> WE DID LAST YEAR?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE BUDGETED TO GIVE THEM $180,000 DURING THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
$20,000 A MONTH IS HOW IT IS ALLOCATED.
>> MY QUESTION IS DID OTHER ENTITIES LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP WE ARE BUILDING WITH THE ROXY TAKE PPP FUNDING.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YES. >> SO WE FUNDED THEM AND THEY
TOOK THE SAME FUNDING. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YES.
>> THAT'S WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT'S FAIR.
COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> YES, MAYOR. I THINK IN LISTENING TO THE FACTS -- I AM JUST STILL VERY UNCLEAR AROUND IF WE ARE ABOUT TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT OF $810,00 TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEED FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM I THINK I HEARD -- CORRECT ME IF I AM MISQUOTING, BUT SWEETEN THE DEAL OR GETTING THE DEAL ON THE TABLE.
THAT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME FOR THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
MAYBE IN A PRIVATE DEAL, YES, AND ESPECIALLY AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME WHEN THIS IS NOT A CITY ENTITY.
SO JUST A QUESTION OF -- AGAIN, FOR FISCAL -- FISCALLY SOUND ENTITY WHY DO THEY NEED $180,000 ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO GET THE DEAL ON A TABLE FOR AN $810,000 PURCHASE IF THEY ARE
NOT IN TROUBLE? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THEY ARE NOT IN TROUBLE.
SECONDLY, THEY DIDN'T NEED THE MONEY TO SWEETEN THE DEAL.
IT WASN'T AN ENTICE MEANT. IT WAS MERELY BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP TO BRING THEM IN AS A COMPONENT UNIT WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS THE CITY ADOPTING AN ENTITY.
AGAIN, I WILL NOT MENTION THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
YOU ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE, TO PROVIDE A SERVICE THE CITY WOULD NOT PROVIDE THAT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED TO OUR CITIZENS. WE VIEWED BY PURCHASING THE ROXY PROPERTY DESIGNING A NEW PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT THEY COULD PERFORM IN AND BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND BRINGING THEM IN AS A COMPONENT UNIT AND SUBSIDIZING OPERATIONS AND AS A NONPROFIT.
NOT A FOR PROFIT. IT IS A NONPROFIT.
THAT'S THE PREMISE. >> AND THE SERVICES THEY WERE PROVIDING WERE THEATRICAL SERVICES ?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NOT JUST THEATRICAL, BUT EDUCATION SERVICES. PERFORMANCE-BASED SERVICES
MAINLY, BUT I CAN'T -- >> AS A SERVICE TO THE CITY?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: AS A SERVICE TO THE CITY, SCHOOL BUSES, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WORKED WITH THEM DURING THE SUMMER PROGRAMS. THEY WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER GROUPS IN THE CITY INCLUDING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN GO THROUGH THEIR -- WELL DID GO THROUGH THERE PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, BUT WILL RETURN.
WHETHER THERE IS A NEW BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF
FRANK LYNN AND FIRST OR NOT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
QUOWN -- COUNCIL PERSON SMITH.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AM TRYING TO SAY THIS LIGHTLY BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE A STRONG PRESENCE WHEN I SPEAK. I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY AND I HAVE THAT POWER IN ME AND I'M SORRY. I WILL SAY I'M SORRY, BUT LISTEN TO ME, Y'ALL. WHEN I SPEAK LIKE THAT I AM NOT MAD AT NOBODY. IT IS JUST PART OF WHO I AM.
I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THIS, ABOUT THIS MONEY GIVEN TO THE PRIVATE OWNED NONPROFIT.
SOMEONE SAID THEY CAN HOLD THEIR OWN.
THEY DON'T NEED THE MONEY FROM US TO CARRY ON.
THEY SAID IF WE DIDN'T BUY THE BUILDING THEY WILL STILL STAND , BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED TO STILL GIVE THEM MONEY.
MOST NONPROFITS WE DEAL WITH HAVE A MEAN GREEN FINANCIAL STATUS. THEY ARE NOT IN FOUR LIENS, AND I DON'T THINK THEY ARE IN DEBT LIKE THIS ROXY.
I AM HAPPY I WENT ON AND VOTED TO BUY THE ROXY BECAUSE I
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BELIEVE IN KEEPING HISTORICAL BUILDINGS AND TRYING TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY HAPPY AND DOING WHAT IS RIGHT, YOU KNOW.BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LET THAT GO AND LET'S LET GO OF THE $180,000. WE PAID THEM $20,000 A MONTH.
I DON'T THINK WE ARE PAYING NO OTHER FACILITY LIKE WE ARE PAYING THEM. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT. I KNOW WE GIVE MONEY TO OTHER NONPROFITS, BUT THEN THIS STANDS.
I ASKED THIS ONE NONPROFIT, I SAID -- HE HAD A PROBLEM.
WE VOTED FOR THEM TO GET THE FUNDS WE GIVE THEM.
I SAID WELL THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD STANDINGS RIGHT NOW.
HE SAID WE ARE LEAN, GREEN AND MEAN.
CAN Y'ALL GIVE US MONEY? AND I AM NOT TRYING TO BE ROUGH OR HARD. I AM JUST TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. I THINK WE NEED TO CUT THE TIES. WE ARE GONNA BUY THE BUILDING. WE ARE GONNA TURN THIS AROUND. SO WHY CAN'T WE -- WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR US TO LET GO? WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR US TO NOT GIVE THEM ANYMORE MONEY? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I DON'T.
I DON'T, MAYOR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO KEEP GIVING THEM MONEY.
WE COULD TAKE THE MONEY AND PAY THE PEOPLE FOR THE HOLIDAYS WE JUST VOTED ON. THE MONEY CAN BE USED FOR THESE EMPLOYEES. THEY WORK HARD.
SHE SHOVEL SNOW AND KEEP US SAFE AND TAKE CARE OF OUR ROADS. THEY DO EVERYTHING.
MY TOILET WAS STOPPED UP THE OTHER NIGHT, THE BATHTUB AND THE TOILET, BOTH OF THEM. I SAID, LORD, HAVE MERCY.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I CALLED THE GAS AND WATER AND THEY SAID MS. SMITH DO YOU WANT ME TO COME OUT RIGHT NOW? I SAID NO, I CAN WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW. I'M GOOD.
THEY WAS RIGHT THERE. SO WE HAVE SOME GOOD EMPLOYEES. LET'S TAKE THIS MONEY AND AND DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HELPING THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE MAY HAVE A BETTER LIFE.
WE GOT SOME HARD WORKER THAT'S THE MAYOR ALWAYS BRAG ON.
I BRAG ON. THEY DO A GOOD JOB.
LET'S USE THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING -- YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE USED FOR. WE ARE GONNA BUY THE ROXY.
WE WILL SAVE THEM. WE WILL PAY THE LIENS AND WE ARE GONNA HELP THEM OUT. IT WILL BE SAFE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON SMITH. COUNCIL PERSON REDD, BE
RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M MISSING.
WE JUST VOTED EARLIER TO BUY THE ROXY THEATER.
AND I WAS HEARING ALL OF THIS THAT IT WILL GENERATE REVENUE AND IT IS THE GREATEST THING IN THE WORLD.
WE ARE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RUNNING A THEATER, BUT WE BOUGHT ONE.
THAT SHOULD TELL US SOMETHING.
AND NOW I AM HEARING THAT IT'S IN DEBT AND THAT IT HASN'T BEEN RAN RIGHT. THAT IS WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THIS FOR MANY YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE SOME WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER NOW. THANKS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REDD.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE THAT IS BEFORE US WHICH IS ORDINANCE 72? OKAY.
LET'S VOTE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MS. ALLEN. >> MS. REYNOLDS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS PASSED FIRST READING AND NOW WE ARE READY FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 49.
THAT IS COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT AND YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE TERMINATING THE LEASE WITH THE ROXY THEATER -- OH I NEED A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION
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>> DID I SKIP ONE? OH THERE WE GO.
MY APOLOGIES. IT IS RESOLUTION -- I MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION 49-2020-21.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE FOR RESOLUTION 49 AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO REPEAL THE LEASE RECOGNIZING THE HOURS -- I KNOW THE HOUR IS LATE AND I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS IN THERE THAT SEVERAL OF US, BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD IN THIS MEETING WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT AND REVISIT. NOW ISN'T NECESSARILY THE TIME. IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT AND FIND OUT WHAT THE ROXY THEATER IS GOOD WITH AND WHAT WE CAN LIVE WITH.
AND SO I THINK OF BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MR. BAKER SAID EARLIER, BECAUSE WE AGREED TO PURCHASE THE BUILDING AND WE HAVE A LEASE ALREADY APPROVED THAT WE CAN, AT THIS JUNCTURE SIGN IT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
THERE IS JUST A LOT OF RESERVATIONS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE LEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAL THE CURRENT LEASE THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE, AND THEN NOT TO SAY WE WON'T LEASE IT BACK TO THE ROXY.
I THINK WE NEED TO ENGAGE THEM AND MAYBE LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THE VARIOUS COME UP WITH A LEASING AGREEMENT THAT IS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS NOW A COMMUNITY ASSET THAT THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE OWNS.
TO IN-- TO ENSURE IT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TAXPAYERS AND DESIRED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS. I JUST ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT TO TERMINATE THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
LET'S REVISIT IT AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS A
LITTLE MORE EQUITABLE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: JUST TO CLAIRE -- CLARIFY, IT IS A RESOLUTION AND NOT AN
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SORRY. DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. BAKER.
IS HE HERE? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MR. BAKER?
>> MR. BAKER IN THE LEASE, THE PART THAT BOTHERS -- THE PART I DON'T IS WHEN THEY MOVE BACK TO THE BUILDING AND WE TALK ABOUT THE PROFIT SHARING, DO I UNDERSTAND THIS TO MEAN AFTER THREE YEARS WE CAN RENEGOTIATE THE PROFIT SHARING OR AFTER FIVE YEARS WE RENEGOTIATE THE PROFIT SHARING? IT IS NUMBER 4, AFTER THREE FULL YEARS OF OPERATION -- IT TALKS ABOUT $100,000 AND WE TAKE 5% OF THE PROFIT.
>> IT IS AFTER THREE YEARS. IT IS THREE FULL FISCAL
YEARS. >> WOULD WE BE -- AFTER THREE FISCAL YEARS -- WILL WE BE ABLE TO RENEGOTIATE THAT SPURS -- PERCENTAGE OR IS THAT WHEN WE START COLLECTING?
>> WELL, THE WAY IT READS IS AFTER THAT THREE YEARS ADDITIONAL RENT IS TO BE CALCULATED AS FOLLOWS.
AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY IF THE CENTER EXCEEDS BREAK EVEN TICKET SALES AND LEASE RENTAL REVENUE IN EXCESS OF 5%, 5% OF THE AMOUNT OVER BREAK EVEN SHOULD SHALL -- SHALL BE
SHARED WITH THE CITY. >> SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T NECESSARILY APPRECIATE JUST THE 5%.
I UNDERSTAND THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS WHEN THEY MOVE BACK IN TO GET BACK UP. I AM JUST ASKING AT WHAT POINT WOULD WE -- WOULD THIS ALLOW US TO RENEGOTIATE THE 5% TO A
HIGHER NUMBER? >> AFTER THE FIRST THREE YEARS YOU -- YOU'RE GONNA GET -- IF THE PERFORMANCE ART CENTER EXCEEDS TICKET SALES OF 5%, THE OVER 5% SHALL BE SHARED.
AND THEN IT GOES ON TO CONTINUE AFTER IT GIFTS -- GIFTS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PREVIOUS WHAT I WOULD CALL RENT ESCALATOR. AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY EVERY THREE YEARS THE ADDITIONAL RENT CALCULATION AND PERCENTAGE SHALL BE RENEGOTIATED WITH THE ROXY
BOARD AND THE CITY. >> SO WE HAVE ROOM?
>> AFTER THE FIRST THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
YES. >> AND WOULD WE ALSO BE ABLE TO RENEGOTIATE AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS MISSING IN THE LEASE NOT INITIALLY IS ACCOUNTABILITY.
IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE BREAK EVEN OR THE BUILDING IS NOT PAID FOR ITSELF AT WHAT POINT DO WE
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RENEGOTIATE WHO MANAGES THE BUILDING?>> LET ME SAY A COUPLE THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T DRAFT THIS LEASE.
IT WAS DRAFTED BY OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR.
IT IS A TEMPLATE BASED OFF THE EXACT SAME LEASE THAT WE USED WITH THE MUSEUM WITH SOME TWEAKING.
THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS EVERYTHING IN THIS LEASE CAN BE RENEGOTIATED AND THE LEASE CAN BE AMENDED.
FRANKLY, THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE UNEQUAL BARGAINING POWER. I AM NOT SAYING WE CAN DICTATE TO ROXY PRODUCTIONS, BUT WE ARE REALLY IN A STRONG
POSITION WITH THEM. >> AND I WANT TO ADD TO THE CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE REACHED OUT REGARDING ROXY AND INCLUDING THE ROXY BOARD, THEY ARE TRUSTING US WITH THEIR SOLE ASSET. AND I DO RB -- RESPECT THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD AND BUY THE BUILDING, THAT WE DO OWE THEM -- WE DON'T OWE THEM NECESSARILY SOLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BUILDING, BUT WE DO OWE THEM, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT ROXY DOES RIGHT NOW.
SO IT IS A BALANCE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS. MR. BAKER, THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY. COUNCIL PERSON RICHARDS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER'S POINT, I FEEL WE OWE OUR TAXPAYERS WHO VOTED US IN OFFICE. AT THIS TIME AS IT RELATES TO RESOLUTION 49 I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL -- HAVE I A SHORT VIDEO I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER.
IT IS JUST THREE MINUTES LONG.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE WILL ALLOW IT.
>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO SET IT UP.
THE MAIN QUESTION I HAVE AS IT RELATES TO 49-2020 IS JUST OVERALL -- AS TAXPAYERS AND AS A COUNCIL, MY MAIN QUESTION IS WHO BENEFITS FROM THE OVERALL MANAGEMENT DEAL? I AM HERE AND FEEL STRONGLY AS I SHARED EARLIER THAT THIS WILL BE A PERFORM -- PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND NOT A THEATER ARTS CENTER. I WOULD BE SURE OUR TAXPAYER CITIZENNING OF CLARKSVILLE -- CITIZENS OF CLARKSVILLE ALL AREAS ARE REPRESENTED. ALL AREAS ARE REPRESENTED MULTI-GENERATIONAL AND MULTI-ETHNIC.
NOT JUST RACE, BUT CLASS. AND NOT JUST SIMPLY ONE PREFERRED GROUP. LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE THING, IT HAS BEEN AROUND -- ROXY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 38 YEARS.
I WANT TO LOOK FORWARD WITH WHAT WE -- WHAT WE WILL NEED FOR TOMORROW. I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THAT ALL THE PLANS AND THE THINGS WE SHARED EARLIER WITH WELL INTENTIONS, WELL INTENTIONS THAT WE CAN'T COUNT.
WE CAN ONLY COUNT TRACK RECORD.
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW A TREE, JUDGE THEM BY THE FRUIT.
IF THERE IS A WAY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WILL DO, BUT A CONVERSATION OF THE CURRENT TRACK RECORD.
HOW DO WE BECOME MORE INCLUSIVE AND GET BANG FOR THE TAXPAYERS BUCKS? PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO.
IT IS NOT ABOUT STANDING STILL.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO KEEP CREATING IT IS ABOUT CHANGE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA ASSIGNED THIS YOUNG LADY.
SHE IS NO LONGER WITH US. SHE PASSED IN 2019.
HER NAME IS MS. DIANE RODRIGUEZ AND SHE WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA -- SHE WAS THE ASSOCIATE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR AT THE CENTER THEATER GROUP IN L.A.
AND APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AND CONFIRMED BY THE U.S. SENATE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL ON THE ARTS. ALSO RAN THE NATURAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS. THIS IS OUR FEDERAL ENTITY THAT DISCUSSES INCLUSIVE TEE AND DIVERSITY FOR OUR ARTS INITIATIVES HERE AS A NATION. PLEASE WATCH THIS SCREEN.
>> THE POLITICAL JARGON. >> OF MEXICAN ACTIVISTS.
>> TO DEFINE OUR GOALS. >> I SAW FIRSTHAND THAT THE NONPROFIT MODEL IS BUILT ON THE PATRONAGE OF THE WEALTHY.
>> PUBLIC FACING ARTISTIC PROGRAMS AT MANY INSTITUTIONS
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ARE RIGHTLY UNDER SCRUTINY FOR LACK OF EQUITY AND DIVERSITY.>> THERE MUST BE A SIMILAR SENSE OF SOCIAL
RESPONSIBILITY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: CAN YOU
TURN IT UP PLEASE? >> ONE MUST WONDER WHY THE FILL -- PHILANTHROPIC CULTURE AND ART SECTOR CAN WITHHOLD MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAXES FROM THE OVERALL SOCIETAL
GREATER GOOD. >> WITHOUT DELIVERING SERVICES TO ALL COMMUNITIES. NOT JUST THOSE OF PRIVILEGE.
>> CHANGING THE MAKE UP OF A BOARD TO CREATE AN EQUITABLE AND SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE COHESION IS A MONUMENTAL CHANGE. NOT MERELY A COSMETIC EFFORT.
>> IT IS ALSO AN URGENT MANDATE.
NONPROFIT THEATERS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THE LAW TO ADHERE TO THE GREATER GOOD PRINCIPAL.
>> WHY NOT CREATE A VISION OF PHILANTHROPY THAT IS NOT REWARDED WITH 1% ELITISM THAT KEEPS THE ELITE IN THEIR OWN SEPARATE AREA, BUT INSTEAD IS IN SERVICE OF A DEMOCRATIC
APPROACH. >> IN THE WORDS OF SCHOLAR DIANE RAGSDALE IT IS ABOUT CULTURAL EQUITY.
>> THERE IS NOT A PRE ORDAINED HIERARCHY THAT PLACES WORK MADE BY PROFESSIONALS ABOVE WORK MADE BY AMATEURS.
WORKS THAT ARE I'M PRO -- IMPROVISED OR WORKS OVER BODIES OF WATER OVER WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE PRISON, ON THE SCHOOL OR ON THE STREETS.
>> WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE DISMANTLING OF THE HIERARCHY THAT HAS PLAGUED OUR FIELD FOR DECADES.
>> AND EXALTS THE WORK OF THE DEAD AND THE LIVING.
>> WHITE MEN OVER WORKS OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.
>> WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL OUR STORIES.
>> WE AGREE TO HEAR THE STORIES OF OTHERS.
>> THIS SHALL BE TRADE OVER EVERY ARTISTIC MEDIUM.
>> OUR BOARDS NEED TO WRAP THEMSELVES AROUND THIS
CONCEPT. >> I HAVE AN INSATIABLE APPETITE TO DEFY THE STATUS QUO, BUT I WAS NOT THE LEADER
OF THE THEATER. >> IF WE WANT THE THEATERS TO REMAIN VITAL TO THE COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE TO REDEFINE PHILANTHROPY OF CULTURAL EQUITY.
>> WE MUST RE-- RECRUIT AND KEEP BOARD MEMBERS THAT IS YOU ARE JEPT NOT ONLY OF THE ART FORM, BUT THE COUNTRY.
TO HAVE HOPE. >> I CONTINUE TO HAVE HOPE.
MORE WOMEN ON GREEN LIGHT PROJECTS WE ARE UNDOUBTEDLY
ENTERING A NEW PHASE. >> THE POTENTIAL FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC CULTURE THAT ERASES HIERARCHY AND PRIVILEGE COULD BE MONUMENTAL. A GAME CHANGER.
>> THEATERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY MAY DEPEND ON THE WEALTHY TO KEEP OUR DOORS OPEN. ART IS NOT CHARITY.
PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE NOT CHARITY.
>> WE ARE JOINED IN A COMMON CAUSE.
>> LET'S BRING DOWN THE WALLS.
>> BETWEEN THE SO-CALLED GATE CAPER -- GATE KEEPERS AND THE
AUDIENCE -- AUDIENCE. >> WE CAN BUILD CULTURAL CENTER GOOSES I THAT WELCOME DASH CENTER THAT WELCOMES US
ALL. >> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU,
DIANA. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON RICHMOND? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS IS THE VISION WE NEED TO HAVE IN MIND AS A COUNCIL AS WE ARE A GROWING CITY AND I THINK THERE WERE SPEAKERS OF BEING INCLUSIVE OF ALL NATIONALITIES AND ECONOMIC AND SOCIO MAKE UPS AND REFLECTIVE OF ALL PERFORMING ARTS.
>> WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS IN WHO SHOULD BE THE MANAGING ENTITY OF THIS TAX PURCHASE SHOULD BE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, ARE
YOU RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS RIGHT THERE THAT WE SAW IN THAT VIDEO, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE ROXY, THEY HAVE SOME SHOWS, QUITE A FEW SHOWS THEY HAVE DONE WHERE IT IS PAY WHAT YOU CAN.
IT IS TO ENABLE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT. PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE ROXY ARE NOT JUST THE ELITE. I FEEL LIKE IT GIVES A BAD REPRESENTATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO GO THERE.
I GO TO THE ROXY SHOWS. I SUPPORT THEM.
I DEAF THAT THE -- I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T CONSIDER MYSELF ONE OF THE ELITE. I WAS GLAD TO COME BACK TO HEARING THAT DIVERSITY DOES INCLUDE MORE THAN JUST RACIAL DIVERSITY, BUT ALSO INCLUDES EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEIR BOARD IS MADE UP, AS WE HEARD -- IT IS A DIVERSE BOARD. IT ACTUALLY MATCHES -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIVERSITY OF THEIR BOARD, IT MATCHES THE
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STATISTICS OF WHAT YOU SEE FOR THE STATE OF TENNESSEE.THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB RUNNING THIS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. THEY HAVE WORKED TO TRY AND BRING MORE AND MORE DIVERSITY TO THEIR SHOWS.
I REALIZE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE THEATER AND THAT'S MAINLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING. ONCE WE HAVE A PERFORMING ART CENTER WHERE IT WILL OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU WILL BEGIN TO SEE MORE AND MORE. THAT HAS BEEN THEIR INTENT.
THEY DISCUSSED THAT. THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE FACT WHEN THEY GAVE THE PRESENTATION THEY WERE LOOKING TO HAVE MORE DIVERSITY IN THE OFFERINGS FOR THE CROWD TO COME AND SEE. ALSO THE ROXY HAS BEEN GREAT ABOUT NONPROFITS. IT IS NOT JUST LIVE THEATER.
I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH TWO PROJECTS WHERE THEY WORKED WITH OTHER NONPROFITS. WE HAD THE ADULT SPELLING BEE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE IMAGINATION LIBRARY OF WHICH WE HELD THERE AT THE FACILITY.
WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF OUR JUDGES WAS THE MAYOR HERE AND WE HAD THE MAYOR AS PART OF IT.
WE ADD GREAT TIME AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL FUND RAISING EXPERIENCE FOR US. WHEN WE SAID WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LET US DO THIS HERE HE SAID YES.
LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
THAT'S PART OF LEADERSHIP CLARKSVILLE.
I PARTICIPATED IN THE FIRST LIP-SYNC EVENT THEY HAD THERE. THAT WAS DONE -- CAROL AND THEM ASKED RYAN, WOULD YOU LET US BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS HERE? RYAN SAID YES. THE MATTER IS IF YOU GO TO THIS GROUP AND SAY, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING AND DO SOME FUNDRAISING.
IF THERE IS A WAY THEY CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING. JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN THAT LEADERSHIP CLARKSVILLE EVENT HAPPENED, THE WINNER GOT TO PICK WHERE THEIR MONEY WENT. THAT WAS AGAIN BENEFITING ANOTHER NON-PROFIT. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON THAT BOARD, THEY COME FROM ALL DIFFERENT CLASSES.
IT IS NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
THEY SERVE IN OTHER AREAS AND REPRESENT THEIR COMMUNITY WELL. THEY HAVE WORKED HARD TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS THESE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY WITH THE LEASE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED ON WHICH AGAIN PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT AND GO BACK AND LOOK A THE YOUR MEETING NOTES.
THIS WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. IT WAS A RESOLUTION.
IT WAS NOT ON A CONSENT AGENDA. IT WAS VOTED NONE MUSSILY.
I UNDERSTAND WE -- VOTED ON UNANIMOUSLY.
I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS, BUT THIS IS COMING FORWARD FROM WHERE PEOPLE VOTED IN THE PAST AND SAID LET'S DO THIS. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND WITH THE $1, AGAIN, LOOKING AT WHAT OTHERS DOO -- DO. THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE FOR US AND IT IS THE RIGHT MOVE FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND I ASK YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN.
COUNCIL PERSON HOLLEMAN. >> I'M SORRY.
I AM GETTING TIRED AND IT MIGHT NOT MAKE MUCH SENSE.
THE ROXY MANAGEMENT I FEEL HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD FOR THE ROXY. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY ARE EXPERIENCED. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO KILL THIS LEASE AND TRY TO RESTRUCTURE THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND THEN HAVE TO FIND NEW TALENT TO MANAGE THE ROXY. YOU DON'T CHANGE CAPTAINS BEFORE YOU SET SAIL. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST STICK WITH THE LEASE. THAT'S ALL.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON EVANS, YOU ARE REC COG NEED -- RECOGNIZED.
>> I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND'S VIDEO HE PRESENTED. I KNOW FROM TAKING SEVERAL ART SURVEY CLASSES IN A ART HISTORY, THE PERFORMING ARTS AND THE FINE ARTS HAS BEEN FOR THE ELITE.
IT WAS MADE FOR THE ELITE. HOWEVER, I DO THINK AS HE HAS TAKEN OVER HE HAS MANAGED TO EXCEED IN GREAT STRIDE AND CORRECTING THE PATH THE ROXY WAS ON -- I KIND OF JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT WHERE I UNDERSTAND THIS VIDEO IS SAYING. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE BOARD SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIONAL OF OUR COMMUNITY AND AFTER THE INFORMATION COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN RELAYED TO US, I DO FEEL THAT THE BOARD THAT THEY HAVE IS DWOI -- DIVERSE.
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THOUGH I HAVE HEARD -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN CONFIRM THIS, BUT IN ORDER TO BE ON THE ROXY BOARD YOU HAVE TO PAY INTO THE ROXY BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO BUY IT BACK?>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS NOT A PAY TO PLAY.
WELL, SORRY. I HAD TO STRAIGHTEN THAT UP.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: FAIR QUESTION.
>> YES. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY IO
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT RECOGNIZED AGAIN.
>> I I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS MOTION TO DELETE THE -- OR TERMINATE THE LEASE IS NOT TO SAY WE DON'T WANT THE ROXY BOARD INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
WE DO WANT THEM AT THE TABLE. I BELIEVE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS WITH THIS A PERFORMING ART CENTER THAT THE TABLE IS LARGE ENOUGH NOW WITH THE VISION WE HAVE THAT MORE PEOPLE SHOULD BE TO THE TABLE.
ESPECIALLY IT BEING CITY-OWNED BY THE DIVERSE POPULATION.
I THINK THERE IS ROOM FOR GORDONS AND THEY CAN RUN SOME OF THEIR OWN PRODUCTIONS. I THINK IT IS BIG ENOUGH AT THE TABLE TO HAVE A CARISSA SWANSON THAT CAN BRING DIFFERENT STYLES OF DANCE INTERPRETATION TO IT.
IT IS BIG ENOUGH FOR OUR LOCAL COMEDIANS LIKE DJ PRIORMAN AND THEY HOST THE LAUGH LOUNGE AND THEY CAN HAVE A VENUE OR OFFER THAT FEEL TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S THE MAIN REASON FOR ME -- LET'S START THIS LEASE FROM SCRATCH.
WE GOT TIME. NOBODY IS HERE TO -- NOW THAT WE ARE BUYING THE BUILDING TO KICK THE ROXY OUT.
LET'S JUST SAY ROXY WE OWN IT NOW AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO MORE THAN JUST YOU NOW. THERE IS MORE THAN JUST THE THEATER SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION NOW.
JUST MOVE OVER. DON'T MOVE OUT.
JUST MOVE OVER AND LET SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN.
LET'S SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A FRESH START ON THIS LEASE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS COMPREHENSIVE AND IT IS BRINGING THE FOLKS TO THE TABLE THAT HAVE AN INTEREST.
LET'S COME UP WITH AN EQUITABLE WAY TO MAKE IT AN ASSET, A TRUE COMMUNITY ASSET SO I ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THIS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.
THAT'S THE EXACT POINT. NO ONE IS ARGUING THAT THE ROXY HAS NOT DONE AN AMAZING JOB FOR THE PAST 38 YEARS.
IT IS JUST THAT WE HAVE GROWN AS A CITY.
EVERY OTHER YEAR. AS A PATRON AND IN LOOKING AT THE PAST PRODUCTION HISTORY, FOR EXAMPLE "VAGINA MONOLOGUES" IS DONE EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS.
I HAVE YET TO SEE THE CONTRIBUTION OF PAUL ROBERSON AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF DIANE RODRIGUEZ AND THEY NEED TO KNOW SOME OUR LATINO PLAYERS IN THE THEATRICAL WORLD.
NOT ONLY AS WE KEEP SAYING ONLY AND ONLY PERFORMANCE, BUT DANCE, VOCAL AND VISUAL ARTS. AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER JUST STATED, IT IS ABOUT SAYING, ROXY, SINCE YOU ARE SO DIVERSE AND SINCE YOU ARE EQUITY MINDED AND SINCE YOU ARE SO OPEN MINDED AND DO A GREAT JOB IN OUR COMMUNITY, YES, THE TABLE IS NOW BIG ENOUGH TO INCLUDE MORE CHAIRS.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL THREATENED BY THAT.
YOU ARE NOT JUST A SELF-SERVING ENTITY TO DO WHAT YOU WANT. TAXPAYERS ARE AT THE TABLE.
TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND TAXPAYER INPUT IS IMPORTANT.
I CAN SEE NOW WE DECIDE WHO IS AT THE TABLE AND THEY TAKE ON A ROLE SIMILAR TO CITY COUNCIL.
THEY HAVE TO BE OPEN TO INPUT AND COMPLAINT AND RAH-RAH FROM ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THE VIDEO WAS NEVER SET UP TO SAY, HEY, THE THEATER IS JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY.
THEY SAID IT BEST. THE THEATER IS NO LONGER ABOUT DEAD WHITE MAN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THEATER AND THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THE TABLE OF THE BLACK ARTS MOVEMENT IN THE 60S.
FEDERAL FUNDING HAD TO COME THROUGH TO SAY, HEY, THIS THEATER DOES NOT LOOK FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO WHERE OUR SOCIETY IS GOING FROM A FEDERAL PERSPECTIVE.
WE WILL ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A VOICE AND ALL CHILDREN ARE EDUCATED ON ALL OF THE ARTS AND ALL OF THE ARTISTS.
SO THEY GAVE FEDERAL FUNDING TO SAW RT -- SUPPORT THE
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EFFORTS. A LOT OF THOSE THEATER COMPANIES BACK THEN BECAUSE THEY MAYBE WEREN'T AS INCLUSIVE AND LEFT TO THEMSELVES TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES, THEY HAVE NOW DIED OUT.WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY DOESN'T END UP BACK FROM THE FEDERAL CONVERSATION WE BUILT ON AND ON WHICH THE ROXY WAS ABLE TO BUILD OVER THE LAST 38 YEARS. EQUITY, INCLUSION AND SHARED PROS -- PROSPERITY FROM ALL. EVERY WARD WINS UNDER MY LEADERSHIP. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL 12 WARDS WIN HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERY PERFORMING ART AND EVERY CHILD WIN AS WELL.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL REDD ARE YOU
RECOGNIZED. >> FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE ARTICLE 7 WE ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO SPEAK TWICE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU ARE EXACT -- EXACTLY LIGHT --
RIGHT. >> LOOKING AT THE TIME I WISH WE WOULD FOLLOW THAT A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY.
SECOND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO MICROMANAGE THIS THAT WAS WHEN WE HAD THE DEBATE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO BUY AND THAT'S WHY I SAID GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOOD ARBITORS OF BUSINESS AND THERE IS A REASON.
AND NOW WE HAVE 12 DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE THEIR WAY IN MANAGING A THEATER. NOW YOU BOUGHT A THEATER.
WE HAVE 12 WAYS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO THINK IT SHOULD BY -- SHOULD BE DONE. AS A MAGICIAN, MAYBE I WANT MAGICIANS THERE. THEY ARE NOT THE HIERARCHY OR THE PATRIARC KEY. THEY ARE ALL BROKE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF COVID. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON.
YOU HEARD HIM SAY NO MORE THAN -- SPEAK NO MORE THAN TWICE ON AN ISSUE. LET'S GO TO COUNCIL PERSON
LAST TIME I SPEAK. DO WE HAVE AN ASSIGNED PERSON
AT THE ROXY? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NO.
>> SO TECHNICALLY WE HAVEN'T BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND THE CURRENT LEASE IS HOW MANY YEARS?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: 25 YEARS AND WE WOULD RENEGOTIATE EVERY THREE THE TERMS OF REVENUE SHARING AND RENEWING.
>> SO BASICALLY A THREE-YEARLIES.
SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RENEW THE LEASE?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE TERM IS 25 YEARS, BUT WE WOULD
RENEGOTIATE EVERY THREE. >> SO THE TERMS --
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: PROFIT SHARING TERMS.
>> WOULD THAT TERMINATE THE LEASE?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT WOULD BE A MUTUALLY AGREED UPON
TERMINATION. >> WE ARE NEGOTIATING EVERY THREE YEARS AND WE DO NOT HAVE A PURCHASING SALE AGREEMENT AND THEREFORE IT IS REALLY NOT -- WE HAVEN'T REALLY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. SO WHO IS TO SAY THAT IF WE DO NOT RENEW THIS LEASE, THEN THE ROXY TURNS AROUND AND THEY ARE UPSET ABOUT IT AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ARE NOT GONNA SELL YOU OUR PROPERTY NOW.
Y'ALL DIDN'T WANT TO RENEW OUR LEASE AND TRY TO REMOVE US FROM THE BUILDING WHICH THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE POINT THAT WILL KILL THE WHOLE DEAL OF THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE AND
THAT'S ALL I WILL SAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION. IT IS ON RESOLUTION 49 AND IT IS A NONDEBATABLE MOTION. WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON RESOLUTION 49. IF YOU WISH TO CEASE DISCUSSION VOTE I. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT, VOTE NO. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MISS BUTLER. >> MAYOR PITTS.
>> 13 YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT PASSES AND WE ARE NOW VOTING ON RESOLUTION 49.
MADAM CLERK, WHEN YOU ARE READY TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MS. ALLEN. >> MS. REYNOLDS.
>> MS. STREETMAN. >> MS. EVANS.
>> 6 YES AND 7 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: RESOLUTION 49 FAILS. WE ARE NOW READY FOR RESOLUTION 50. YES WE -- HANG ON.
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HOLD THE PHONE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REVISIT AN ITEM YOU -- BASED ON A CALCULATION ERROR. WHICH ORDINANCE WAS IT?
>> ORDINANCE 72. >> ITEM 4 ON YOUR NEW BUSINESS.
THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD AMEND THE FUNDING FOR -- OR DELETE THE FUNDING FOR THE ROXY REGIONAL THEATER.
WE HAVE A VOTE TALLY THAT SAYS 6-4 AND -- 6 FOR AND 7 AGAINST. MADAM CLERK, CAN I ASK YOU TO READ THE MEMBERS' NAME AND HOW THEY VOTED AND MAKE SURE WE
GOT IT RIGHT? >> THE VOTES IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 72. MR. GARRETT, MR. RICHMOND, MR. LITTLE, MS. SMITH, MS. ALLEN, MS. BUTLER.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT'S A TOTAL OF HOW MANY?
>> THAT'S SIX. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SIX.
HOLD ON. >> THE NO VOTES ARE MR. REDD, MR. KNIGHT, MR. HOLLEMAN, MS. REYNOLDS, MS. STREETMAN,
MS. EVANS AND MAYOR PITTS. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: AND THAT
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SO THE ORDINANCE 72 WOULD FAIL BECAUSE IT WAS SIX VOTES FOR AND 7 VOTES AGAINST.
SO THAT IS THE NEW TOTAL. ORDINANCE 72 FAILS.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY IS THERE STILL A REVOTE ON THAT?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NO, WE CAN'T.
WE RULED. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WELL -- >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> JOE WE ARE NOT -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE NOT SAYING WE THINK IT IS. THE CLERK HAD A TALLY --
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THEY HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK. WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
LET'S MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 51 WHICH IS -- I'M SORRY. RESOLUTION 50.
IT IS AMENDING THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL PERSON SMITH IS THE SPAWNS EVERY -- SPONSOR. ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I STILL THINK THAT IS NOT RIGHT. BUT IF YOU SAY SO.
ANYWAY. I'M NOT GONNA BE LONG WITH THIS. I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SHOWED TO US AND WHAT THE VIDEO SHOWED US AND THAT'S WHAT THIS -- I MEAN THIS AMENDMENT IS ABOUT SNOW SNOW
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I NEED A MOTION.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO UH -- TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY.
DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. >> THE LEASE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SHOWN. EVERYTHING WAS SHOWN ON THE VIDEO THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCILMAN SHOWED US ABOUT DIVERSITY AND BEING INCLUSIVE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. IF THE LEASE IS TERMINATED WE WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE OPERATIONAL PROCESS OR PROCEDURES OF THE ROXY. THAT'S ALL IT IS ABOUT.
I'M THROUGH. >> JOE DO YOU HAVE IT IN
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WOULD YOU READ IT TO US, PLEASE?
>> FOLLOWING THE DISCUSSION PRESENTED AT THE ROXY THEATER ON JANUARY 21ST, 2021, 5:30 P.M. TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL IT IS -- THE ROXY LEADERS, THE CEO AND DIRECTORS PRACTICE DIVERSITY LOOKING FOR TALENT FOR HIRE AND FOR PLAYS AND FOR HIRE IN WHITE COLLAR JOBS AS WELL AS TO BE PARTICIPANTS ON THE BOARDS OF INFLUENTIAL WITHIN THE ROXY.
THAT'S ALL. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU HAVE THE MOTION BEFORE US IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 50 AMENDING THE LEASE AGREEMENT. ANY DISCUSSION? ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
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>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THIS IS TO REQUEST THE MAYOR TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE TO THE ROXY.
>> 10 YES AND 3 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: RESOLUTION 50 IS ADOPTED. WE ARE NOW READY FOR
RESOLUTION 51. >> I OBJECT TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE QUESTION AND I MOVE IT BE REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT IS A PROPER MOTION. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.
IT IS A NONDEBATABLE MOTION. I WILL GO BACK TO YOU TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION TO EXPLAIN IT.
>> THANK YOU. OUR COUNCIL SAID THAT THIS MOTION IS ILLEGAL AND RECENTLY IMPASSE HAS CONFIRMED THAT.
BECAUSE THIS IS AN ILLEGAL MOTION AND COULD OPEN US UP TO LIABILITY, I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE
AGENDA AND THAT'S MY MOTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION AND NON-DEBATABLE AND THE MOTION IS TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM THE AGENDA. IT TAKES TWO-THIRDS VOTE WHICH IS 9 MEMBERS TO APPROVE TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA. WE ARE NOW GONNA VOTE.
MADAM CLERK. PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE WHEN YOU ARE READY. WE ARE VOTING TO REMOVE RESOLUTION 51 FROM THE AGENDA.
>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT GOES AWAY AND CANNOT BE CONSIDERED.
NO, IT IS A NONDEBATABLE MOTION.
IT GOES AWAY FOR A YEAR. >> AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS A NONDEBATABLE MOTION.
YOU WILL HAVE TO VOTE. >> MS. SMITH.
>> WE ARE VOTING TO REMOVE -- TO REMOVE RESOLUTION 51.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YES. >> TO REMOVE IT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YES. >> NO JOE MR. HOL LE E --
>> MS. STREETMAN. >> MS. EVANS JOAN JOAN
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU CAN ONLY VOTE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YES. >> 6 YES AND 5 NO AND TWO
ABSTAIN. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS. THE MOTION TO REMOVE IT FAILS. WE ARE NOW ON RESOLUTION 51.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WILL ASK THAT YOU BE KIND AND REMEMBER THAT THERE IS A HUMAN BEING ON THE OTHER END OF THIS AS WELL AS OTHER CITY COUNCIL -- AS OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES.
SO PLEASE BE KIND. WE WILL GO TO THE SPONSOR OF THE RESOLUTION, COUNCIL PERSON EVANS.
>> YES, SO NOW I CAN SAY WHY I VOTED NO, RIGHT AND THEN GO
ON -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU NEED
TO MAKE A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO --
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: APPROVE. >> READ THE RESOLUTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 51-2020-21.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
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FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. WE ARE MOVING ON NOW -->> WAIT A MINUTE, MAYOR -- YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR A SECOND.
>> YOU SURE DIDN'T. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU CAN CHALLENGE THE CHAIR -- USUALLY IT IS CUSTOM MARY WHEN THE
MOTION IS MADE FOR SOMEONE -- >> YOU DIDN'T GO ON IS THERE A
SECOND? >> I CHALLENGE THE RULING OF
THE CHAIR. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CHAT LENGTH THE RULING OF THE CHAIR.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS A MAJORITY VOTE.
SIMPLE MAJORITY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ALL IT TAKES IS FOR US TO VOTE TO OVER RULE THE CHAIR.
YOU VOTE YES IF YOU WISH TO OVER RULE THE CHAIR.
YOU VOTE NO IF YOU DON'T. THAT MEANS THAT IF YOU VOTE TO OVER RULE THE CHAIR, THEN WE WOULD GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT
MOTION AND SECOND. >> A SECOND --
>> WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO OVER RULE THE
CHAIR. >> OKAY SO VOW JOE WE'RE
VOTING -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE'RE VOTING ON THE OVER RULING OF THE CHAIR.
THE SECOND WAS OVER HERE, I BELIEVE.
WHO SECONDED THE MOTION TO OVER RULE THE CHAIR?
>> I SECONDED IT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT'S RIGHT. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MS. REYNOLDS. >> MISS STREETMAN.
>> 9 YES AND 3 NO AND ONE ABSTAIN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION PASSES AND WE ARE NOW ON RESOLUTION 51. BACK TO YOU COUNCIL PERSON EVANS FOR A MOTION AND THEN WE WILL ASK FOR A SECOND.
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 51-2020-21.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: DO I HEAR A SECOND? I HEARD SECOND. OKAY.
SO I VOTED NO BECAUSE AFTER LAST WEEK IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT I OPENED PANDORA'S BOX. MY INTENTION FOR THIS -- NOT RESOLUTION. RESOLUTION WAS NOT -- WAS AN EFFORT TO NOT BE COMPLAISANT. AFTER HEARING THE ADVICE OF MR. GOODSON AT THE MEETING LAST THURSDAY ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION BEING ILLEGAL I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FAIR TO NOT DEPRIVE MR. BAKER OF DUE PROCESS AND CONSIDER THESE
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS, I BELIEVE. I HAVE ONE WITH A NAME ON IT AND ONE THAT I DON'T HAVE A NAME ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE SAME ONE.
I WILL GO WITH THE ONE I HAVE THE NAME ON.
THAT IS COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER HAS OFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO THIS RESOLUTION. I WILL GO TO THE SPONSOR OF
THE AMENDMENT. >> MINE IS AN AMENDMENT TO COUNCILMAN GARRETT'S AMENDMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I'M SORRY.
REPEAT THAT, PLEASE. >> MINE IS AN AMENDMENT TO HIS
AMENDMENT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SO LET'S
GO TO -- >> WHICH ONE IS WHOSE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HANG ON, FOLKS.
IT IS LATE, I KNOW. LET'S DO THINGS RIGHT.
WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN SPONSORED BY COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT. IT WOULD HELP IF I TURNED YOUR
I DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME I THINK COULDN'T HER AMENDMENT TO THE MAIN MOTION BECAUSE IT HAS ALL OF THE SAME LANGUAGE WITH HER DIFFERENCES OR MAYBE LEGAL COUNSEL WILL SAY IF I HAVE TO MAKE MY AMENDMENT.
FOR CLARITY PURPOSES I MAKE MY AMENDMENT TO THE MAIN ORDINANCE AND THE MAIN RESOLUTION.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU ARE MOVING TO ADOPT YOUR
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT HAS MOVED TO ADOPT HIS RESOLUTION TO 51. DO I HEAR A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE NOW HAVE IT BEFORE US. WOULD COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT?
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>> I DEFER TO THE COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER TO MAKE HER
AMENDMENT TO MY AMENDMENT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
EVERYBODY TRACKING WITH US HERE? COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER, WE ARE COMING TO YOU.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MY AMENDMENT TO COUNCILMAN GARRETT'S AMENDMENT CHANGES THE VERBIAGE IN THE TITLE TO A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE COUNSEL IN THE INVESTIGATION OF LANCE BAKER IN REGARD TO HIS POSITION OF CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.
IN PARAGRAPH 3 THERE IS CHANGE TO THE VERBIAGE THAT MAKES IT SAY THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE NOW FINDS IN A MANNER THAT THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE NOW FINDS MAY NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. PARAGRAPH 4 CHANGES THE VERBIAGE IN A MANNER THAT MAY HAVE IMPACTED PUBLIC CONFIDENCE. PARAGRAPH 5 CHANGES THE VERBIAGE TO HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO MAY NEED
IMPROVEMENT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
DO WE HAVE THAT PROPERLY BEFORE US MR. GOD -- GOODSON? WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT AMENDMENT TO THE
AMENDMENT. >> I MOTION FOR MY AMENDMENT TO COUNCILMAN GARRETT'S AMENDMENT.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IT IS TO AMEND COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT'S AMENDMENT. ANY -- I HAVE PEOPLE ON THE LIST. COUNCIL PERSON HOLLEMAN, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> NO, SIR, I DID NOVMENT -- I DID NOT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON REDD, ARE YOU
RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
IT IS COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT'S AMENDMENT. THAT'S A NONDEBATABLE MOTION.
AND SO IT REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS. MADAM CLERK WHEN YOU ARE READY WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO
THE AMENDMENT. >> THERE GARRETT.
>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MR. LITTLE.
>> MS. STREETMAN. >> MS. EVANS.
>> 7 YES AND 6 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION FAILS AND LACKS TWO-THIRDS AND WE ARE NOW BACK ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE ON THE LIST.
DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> YES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT GIVES A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO EXPRESS. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE WAY THE AMENDMENT WAS WRITTEN THE LAST TIME IT -- WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THAT, SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR -- EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL MAY NOT HAVE HAD AN ISSUE, BUT WE SHOULD ALL GET A FAIR SHAKE FOR IT TO GET INVESTIGATED IF IT DID HAPPEN. ANYBODY THAT HAD THAT ISSUE WOULD WANT THAT. I THINK THIS AMENDMENT SHOULD PASS. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT OF THE AMENDMENT.
SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? LOOKS LIKE WE ARE.
MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. WE ARE VOTING ON COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> MISS REYNOLDS. >> MISS STREETMAN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED AND WE ARE NOW ON THE AMENDMENT AS ADOPTED. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, YOU
ARE REC COG -- RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ORIE
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YIT RATE WHAT I SAID -- OR REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE A MONTH AND A FEW DAYS.WHILE I RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE ISSUES, I FEEL THAT WE OWED MORE DUE PROCESS AND DELIBERATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT CERTAIN MEMBERS EXPRESSED THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE AWHILE, BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THE EVIDENCE.
I DID REACH OUT AND I ASK NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS RESOLUTION THAT IT -- THAT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR NEEDS TO BE HAD WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WE INTERACT WITH. I HAVE NOTICED THINGS, BUT AT THIS POINT I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS JUST A STEP TOO FAR AND TOO FAST. AGAIN, I MENTIONED HAVING BEEN -- OR AM AN ACTIVE MEMBER IN THE UNION AT A POST AND HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN CONVERSATIONS BEFORE ACTIONS, AND I AM JUST NOT -- I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT I HAVE ENOUGH HISTORY TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
WE ARE READY FOR COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT.
>> I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY THAT I RESPECT THE INITIAL COMPLAINTS BY SOME OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
HOWEVER, I'M -- I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR, WHAT, A MONTH OR SO, AND I DON'T THINK I AM IN A POSITION TO CONDUCT THIS TYPE OF ASSESSMENT. I AM OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION.
HOWEVER, HONESTLY I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE EVEN VOTING TO -- LET ME JUST SAY THIS. IN THE MILITARY, WE ARE GIVEN ABOUT 60 TO 90 DAYS TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
AND THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM THEIR PARTICULAR DUTIES AND JOBS. I WANT TO DO THE SAME THING HERE AND GIVE THAT PERSON THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE FOR THE 90-DAYTIME FRAME. I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR 30 DAYS AND HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF AN
ASSESSMENT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU, WE ARE READY FOR COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT.
>> THANK YOU, MAY -- MAYOR. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE ATTORNEY BENSON EDUCATING US ON THE PROPER PROCEDURE AND HANDLING THIS SENSITIVE TOPIC.
YOU KNOW, MR. BAKER SERVED AS CITY COUNCIL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AS OUR ATTORNEY. AND I AM OF THE OPINION THAT HE DESERVES HIS DUE PROCESS. I DON'T SEE THIS AS A WAY OF JUST CONDEMNING HIM AND SAYING THAT HE IS GUILTY.
THERE IS GRIEVANCES. I BELIEVE HE ISEN TITLE -- HE IS ENTITLED TO SPEAK TO THE VARIOUS GRIEVANCES.
THEY SAY THERE IS TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY AND IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS THE TRUTH. I LOOK FORWARD TO JUST USING THIS AS A CONVERSATION STARTER AND GIVING HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE SHARE THINGS FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE AS THE MAYOR CONDUCTS HIS INVESTIGATION. WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE PROCESS IT IS UP TO THE MAYOR.
I THINK WE ARE FOLLOWING THE DUE PROCESS.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS.
IF SOMEBODY IS REPORTING IT AND SAYING HE IS ABUSING US, BUT IF YOU KNEW IT AND THEY SAID THEY WERE ABUSED EVEN IF HE WASN'T THERE TO OBSERVE AND IT IS A RESPECTFUL MANNER.
AND THERE IS A DIGNITY -- >> COUNCIL PERSON REDD ARE YOU RECOGNIZED. YOI I --
>> I BELIEVE LANCE BAKER HAS DONE A GOOD JOB.
BEFORE HE ARRIVED HERE WE HAD EMBARRASSING LAWSUITS.
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>> POINT OF ORDER. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WHAT IS THE POINT OF OFFERED -- ORDER.
>> HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE
MOTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE MOTION. PROCEED COUNCIL PERSON REDD.
>> I HAVE ONLY HEARD EVEN LAST THURSDAY -- IT IS INTERESTING THAT I HAVE ONLY HEARD COMPLAINTS, BUT NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT HIS JOB PERFORMANCE. ONLY PERSONAL COMPLAINTS.
I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING LANCE BAKER SAYS.
NOT EVERYTHING. LIKE HIS 13 BOSSES.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I KNOW WHERE HE IS COMING FROM. LANCE ONLY HAS ONE BOSS.
THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION IN THAT EAR -- IN THAT AREA. THEY ARE THE ONLY BOSS AND THE ONLY ELECTED PERSON THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT RUNS THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY.
IT IS IN THE CODE AND THE CHARTER.
THE MAYOR IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN FIRE.
THE MAYOR IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN INITIATE OR DISCIPLINE ANYONE OR ANY OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
THAT'S NOT OUR JOB AS COUNCIL PERSONS.
BY THE CHARTER AND BY THE CODE, WE ARE LEGISLATORS.
WE ARE NOT TO INTERFERE WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS WITH THE CITIES. WE CANNOT INFLUENCE -- IT EVEN SAYS WE ARE NOT TO INFLUENCE ANY EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE CITY.
WE CAN'T GIVE ORDERS. WE CANNOT REQUEST -- IT EVEN SAYS WE CAN'T REQUEST THE REMOVAL OR THE APPOINTMENT OF ANYONE WITHIN THE CITY. WE CANNOT INTERFERE WITH THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND THEIR POINTS OF BUSINESS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY. HOLD ON.
>> WE ARE ON THE MAIN QUESTION.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
I KNOW IT IS LATE. TO YOUR POINT.
>> IF WE ARE ON THE MAIN QUESTION I APOLOGIZE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE ON THE MAIN RESOLUTION WHICH IS
QUESTION? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I'M SORRY. WE ARE ON THE AMENDMENT.
COUNCIL PERSON'S GARRETT'S AMENDMENT.
FORGIVE ME. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE MAIN QUESTION TOO. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THAT
BEFORE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IS THAT
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER. >> SO THE REASON THAT I AMENDED THE AMENDMENT WAS BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO FIRE MR. BAKER. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
LAST WEEK I TRIED TO BE A VOICE OF COMPROMISE SURROUNDING THE ISSUES OF MR. BAKER.
I THOUGHT THE KNEE JERK RESPONSE WAS TO REMIND US WE WERE POWERLESS. IT IS NO SECRET THIS WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA AND I QUESTION WHY NO ONE ON OUR LEGAL TEAM WHO IS THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE ADVISED AGAINST IT BEFORE IT CAME TO THE FLOOR. THIS ENTIRE PROCESS HAS REVEALED THAT WE ON CITY COUNCIL HAVE LITTLE TO NO OVERSIGHT IN REGARD TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER IN THAT.
A POSITION THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO BLINDLY TRUST AND LEAN ON FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR DUTIES.
I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR MY OPINIONS ON THIS SITUATION HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MR. BAKER SPECIFICALLY.
NOR DO I HAVE A FORMAL COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM AND NOR HAVE I MADE A JUDGMENT AGAINST HIM.
THESE OPINIONS ARE BASED ON WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED SINCE THE COMPLAINTS WERE LODGED. GOING FORWARD I WANT TO ENSURE THAT ANY COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS TO INCLUDE US SERVING ON THE COUNCIL. WE ARE STILL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. THEY ARE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY. THEY ARE BOUND FROM VOCALIZE FIGURE THEY EVEN HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY. IT IS A REAL PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AFTER MR. BAKER IS AFFORDED DUE PROCESS. MY CONCURRENCE WITH THIS AMENDMENT, REQUESTING THAT MAYOR PITTS INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE CLAIMS PRESENTED.
IT IS NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
WE ARE READY FOR COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
ARE YOU RECOGNIZED. >> THAT'S THE SAME THING I SAID. I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT IS LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY REAL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID.
IF ANYONE IN OUR CITY OR IF ANYONE SITTING UP HERE CAME TO ME AND SAID, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
I WOULD WANT THE SAME THING FOR THEM.
AN INVESTIGATION AT LEAST JUST TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT
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REALLY HAPPENED. AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE THE FACTS AND SAY IS THIS WHAT IS HAPPENING? WHETHER IT IS ME OR NOT.IF YOU ARE JUST SAYING NO AND TRYING TO SLAM DOWN THE GAVEL OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS GOING ON TO GET THIS OVER AND DONE WITH, THE PROBLEM IS STILL THERE.
IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PERSON. IT IS ABOUT THE PROBLEM.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON SMITH. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WAS JUST LISTENING TO THIS LAST -- IT BROUGHT ME BACK TO SLAVERY.
HE IS ONE OF THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD SAY LET'S
OVER LOOK THIS RACISM. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HOLD ON
I CAN SAY IT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NO, YOU
CAN'T. >> WELL, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN
TALKING EVERYBODY'S NAME. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HOLD IT.
LET'S GET OVER -- >> WE HAVE BEEN CALLING NAMES
ALL NIGHT SO HUSH. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: LET'S HAVE
ORDER AND RESPECT. >> I AM GOING TO SAY THIS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: LET'S NOT MAKE IT PERSONAL.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HE WAS SPEAKING AND I CORRECTED HIM.
MAKE YOUR POINT. >> LET ME SAY THIS.
IT REMINDS ME OF THE JIM CROWE LAWS BACK THEN WHEN SOMEBODY SOMEBODY GETTING BEAT OR MISTREATED, HE WANT TO OVERLOOK IT. THIS PERSON WANTS TO OVERLOOK IT LIKE A SLAVE MASTER. I AM JUST GONE -- GONNA TELL IT LIKE IT IS. THE THING IS I GET SO SICK AND TIRED EVERY TIME SOMEBODY IS MISTREATED, SOMEBODY WANTS TO STEP UP LIKE A SLAVE MASTER, OH AIN'T NOTHING GOING ON.
AIN'T NOTHING GOING ON. HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THIS.
ANOTHER THING, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ON COUNCIL 28 DAYS OR 30 DAYS AND YOU GOT THE NERVE TO THINK THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE CONCRETE OR LEGITIMATE. IT SHOULD PLAY NO PART IN WHAT YOU SAY BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOUR YEARS.
FOUR YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN GONE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, PLEASE --
>> I'M TALKING. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU ARE TALKING, BUT GET TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> I'M GETTING TO IT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: PLEASE GET
TO IT. >> HE CANNOT COME UP HERE AND SAY NOBODY BEEN MISTREATED. HE CAN'T SAY THAT.
HOW CAN HE BE LEGITIMATE, BUT WHEN WE MAKE A COMPLAINT IT IS A CROC. THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
IT IS NOT RIGHT. HIS WORDS TO ME ARE NOT
LEGITIMATE -- >> THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO
WITH THE AMENDMENT. >> Y'ALL SAID -- THEY LET HIM
SPEAK. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: AND THEN I
CHANGED THE PERSPECTIVE. >> IT IS BACK TO THE JIM CROWE LAWS. I'M THROUGH WITH IT.
Y'ALL DON'T WANT ME TO TALK BECAUSE I'M TELLING THE TRUTH. LET'S LET THE JIM CROWE LAWS
KEEP RUNNING. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON EVANS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY AS STATED BEFORE, I AM CONCERNED WITH A LOT OF WHAT WAS SAID AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. WELL IT WAS LAST THURSDAY.
TO WANT TO REFUSE TO HEAR THE COMPLAINTS OF OUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS OR BORDER LINE GASLIGHT THEIR EXPERIENCES DOESN'T SIT RIGHT. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS NEW AMENDMENT THAT WOULD GIVE DUE PROCESS TO MR. BAKER AS WELL AS ALLOW THE COUNCIL WHO HAS HAD SOME CONCERNS VOICE -- VOICE THOSE.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU
COUNCIL PERSON REDD. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I THINK SOMEBODY HAS BEEN WRONGED.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE THE PROSECUTOR --
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ARE WE ON THE -- HOLD ON.
>> I CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR. TWICE.
HE TALKED TWICE. THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR ON THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDED AMENDMENT.
IS THAT RIGHT MR. GIBSON? WE ARE ON COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S -- HER AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT'S AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED. IT IS GARRETT'S AMENDMENT --
>> AS AMENDED BY COUNCIL PERSON --
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT TAKES A VILLAGE UP HERE.
WE HAVE ONE MORE. WE CALLED FOR THE QUESTION WHICH IS TO CEASE DISCUSSION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON. IT IS THE AMENDED AMENDMENT.
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ALL RIGHT. IF YOU VOTE YES, YOU WISH TO CEASE DISCUSSION. YOU VOTE NO YOU WANT TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE.>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MR. LITTLE.
>>Y JVMENT I MS. ALT -- ALLEN.
>> MISS REYNOLDS. >> MS. STREETMAN.
>> 13 YES. JOE EXPWROA MOTION PASSES
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION PASSES TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED AMENDMENT. IT IS NOT ON THE MAIN MOTION, BUT ON THE AMENDED AMENDMENT. WE ARE NOW VOTING ON COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S AMENDMENT -- COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER'S AMENDED AMENDMENT. BOY, IT'S LATE.
LET'S VOTE. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE.
>> 7 YES AND 6 KNOW -- NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED AND WE ARE BACK ON THE MAIN RESOLUTION 50 AS AMENDED. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON THE LIST. COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE. IT I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF SAYING I VOTED NO TO THE AMENDMENTS AND I WILL BE VOTING NO TO THE AMENDED RESOLUTION AS WELL.
I BELIEVE THIS SETS A BAD PRECEDENCE.
WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE.
WE WERE VOTED BEST PLACE TO LIVE IN 2019.
A GOOD BIT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WE HAVE WORKING FOR US. I AM SPEAKING BEYOND THE ONE PERSON WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
WE HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE HIRED BECAUSE WE BELIEVED IN THEIR EXPERIENCE.
WE BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB.
I STILL BELIEVE OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR THE JOB. I THINK BYPASSING SOMETHING ALONG -- BY PASSING SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES INSTEAD OF LETTING DUE PROCESS HAPPEN THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN ON ITS OWN IT IS BAD PRECEDENCE FOR NOT ONLY CURRENT EMPLOYEES TO BE CONCERNED THAT THEY MAY BE THE NEXT ONE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD HERE AS WELL AS FUTURE EMPLOYEES. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CONSIDERING WORKING FOR US IN THE FUTURE AND SEEING ALL OF THIS GOING ON, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES AN INVITING ATMOSPHERE TO BE ABLE TO BRING PEOPLE TO WORK FOR US.
THERE IS A DUE PROCESS IN PLACE.
THAT CAN BE FOLLOWED WITHOUT THIS HAVING TO BE REQUESTED.
I DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY AND FOR THAT REASON I AM
VOTING AGAINST THIS. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON HOLLEMAN. >> THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. GOODSON.
MR. GOODSON, IF YOU WOULD. >> YES, SIR?
>> SO LANCE SENT US SOME OF HIS LITIGATION RECORDS VIA E-MAIL. I DID SOME MATH.
I TOOK THE SECTION THAT SAID IN HOUSE AND COUNTED THEM UP
AND THE TOTAL WAS 70. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WHAT IS
THE POINT OF ORDER? >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> FROM ANOTHER PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE ON HOW THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN WRONGED. THAT'S THE BASIS OF ASKING JUST TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER THAT PERSON WAS WRONG -- WRONGED. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY RIGHTS YOU DO. IF THE INVESTIGATION IS BASED ON HOW A PERSON FEELS THEY WERE WRONGED.
SO TO BELABOR THE POINT AND GO INTO STUFF THAT IS NOT RELATED TO THE MAIN MOTION, THAT'S THE BASIS OF THE POINT OF ORDER.
IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE INVESTIGATION WERE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE WON'T GET TO ALLEGATIONS.
WE WILL MERELY GET TO THE RESOLUTION AS AMENDED.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT -- HOLLEMAN.
DOES IT SPEAK TO THE RESOLUTION AS AMEND SNED.
>> MY QUESTION IS SIMPLY BASED ON PERFORMANCE.
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>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE AT THIS
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON PLEDGETS. >> -- PERSON LITTLE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO AGREE WITH THE WORDING AS FAR AS INVESTIGATING. IF ANYBODY HAS A COMPLAINT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT -- I HAVEN'T HAD ANY BAD EXPERIENCES WITH HIM, BUT IN SOMEBODY DOES, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT BEING INVESTIGATED.
HE SHOULD HAVE HIS DUE PROCESS.
IN THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION IF THEY FIND NOTHING, THEN THERE IS NOTHING.
BUT IF THEY FIND WHATEVER, THEY WILL HANDLE THE
PROCEDURE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU,
COUNCIL PERSON EVANS. >> I HAD A QUESTION FOR
MR. GOODSON. >> MY QUESTION IS IN REGARD TO THE LEGALITY OF THIS CURRENT AMENDMENT.
A PREVIOUS SPEAKER SPOKE TO THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T LEGAL. I JUST WANTED YOU TO CLARIFY.
>> I BELIEVE IT IS LEGAL IN SO MUCH AS THIS COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO EXPRESS ITS SENSE. IN THIS INSTANCE IT IS A DESIRE FOR AN INVESTIGATION. IT IS A REQUEST.
IT WOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL IF THE COUNCIL WAS DIRECTING OR
OBLIGATING. >> SO IT IS LEGAL?
>> I BELIEVE SO AS AMENDED. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON ALLEN. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING NONE ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION 51 AS AMENDED? YES, WE ARE.
MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> MS. REYNOLDS. >> MS. STREETMAN.
>> 7 YES AND 6 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: 51, RESOLUTION 51 IS ADOPTED AND WE ARE NOW READY TO GO BACK AND PICK UP A COUPLE OF ITEMS BUMPED FROM THE CONCEPT AGENDA -- CONSENT AGENDA. ORDINANCE 60.
WAS A REZONING REQUEST THAT WAS BUMPED.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, COULD I ASK YOU TO HANDLE THAT FOR
US LIKE YOU DID THE OTHERS? >> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ORDINANCE 60. IT WAS ITEM NUMBER 6 ON THE
PUBLIC HEARING REZONING LIST. >> I'M TRYING TO FIND IT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: TAKE YOUR TIME.
>> WAS IT UNDER THE CONSENT? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS ITEM
THERE YOU GO. WE GOT ORDINANCE 60-2020-21.
IT WAS FOR APPROVAL AND THEN SO MOVED.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.
DID I HEAR A SECOND? AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 60. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS? >> I JUST WANT TO VERY QUICKLY SAY THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE ARE REZONING FROM M-2, BUT IT IS THE NUMBER OF ROOFTOPS BEING PUT ON A ROAD THAT IS ALREADY STRESSED. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 60? SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE PLEASE.
OH. WE ARE ON ORDINANCE 60 WHICH WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 6. THIS IS A SECOND READING.
DO YOU NEED A MOMENT TO LOOK AT IT? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL HANG ON REAL MOMENT.
WE ARE A DAY OLDER NOW. ITEM 6 AND ORDINANCE 60-2020-21.
>> MS. SMITH. >> MR. HOLLEMAN.
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>> MS. REYNOLDS. >> MS. STREETMAN.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ORDINANCE 60 IS ADOPTED AND WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA WHICH IS RESOLUTION 48 WHICH IS THE VARIOUS APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD'S COMMISSIONS.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROPERLY BEFORE US. A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. DO I HEAR A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: A PROPER SECOND. WE HAVE RESOLUTION 48 BEFORE US. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ABOUT RESOLUTION 48? COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. THE MAIN REASON I WANTED TO PULL THIS FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATIONS IS A CONCERN RAYS RAISED -- RAISED FOR TWO MEMBER THAT'S ARE PRACTICING ATTORNEYS FOR LAW FIRMS AND DID BUSINESS AND WORKED ON THE CITY CASES. I WANTED A LEGAL OPINION FOIR CLARIFICATION. IF IT IS A CON PLICT OF INTEREST -- CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO HAVE A MEMBER OF
-- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE HAVE DUELING ATTORNEYS HERE. GO AHEAD COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT. FINISH YOUR THOUGHT.
>> YEAH, JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM WHETHER IT WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR A LAW FIRM THAT HAS BEEN HIRED BY THE CITY TO PERFORM LITIGATIONS TO HAVE A DELEGATE OR AN ATTORNEY ON THE FIRM SERVE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
BEFORE YOU IS THERE SALMAN WHO IS THE CITY ATTORNEY PRO-TEM
ON THESE ETHICS QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD CONSIDER THAT TO BE
NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: DOES THAT
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> THERE IS NO APPEARANCE
CONFLICT? >> IT IS INHERENT IN A WAY THAT YOU HAVE ALL DECIDED TO BRING THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
IT IS THE FACT THAT YOU APPOINT THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WHICH MEANS THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL HEAR THINGS THAT INVOLVE YOU. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF HAVING COMMISSIONS ON ETHICS. YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO GO THIS WAY. THE MERE FACT THAT NOW THERE IS SOME PENDING DOESN'T CHANGE THE BASIC ANALYSIS THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE TIMES WHERE THE PEOPLE -- YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY AGAINST YOU AMONG THE SAME PEOPLE YOU APPOINTED.
IN THIS CASE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONLY ONE OF THE FIRMS DID ANY WORK AND THERE IS NOTHING PENDING RIGHT NOW. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS A
CONFLICT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON GARRETT YOU GOOD? >> GOOD.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.
>> DO WE KNOW THE OCCUPATIONS OF THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE ON THE
ETHICS COMMISSION CURRENTLY? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THAT WOULDS PAT YOUNG AND BRIDGET CHILDS.
BRIDGET IS A RETARM -- RETIRED ARMY.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THE CURRENT OCCUPATION.
I I HAVE ONLY MET -- I HAVE NOT MET PAT YOUNG SO I DO NOT KNOW HER OR HIS AS THE CASE MAY BE OCCUPATION.
>> SO I GUESS MY THING IS, IT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH -- THE ETHICS COMMISSION, IT IS NOT REALLY THE OCCUPATION THAT IS THE PROBLEM. IT IS YOU WANT AN OCCUPATIONALLY DIVERSE ETHICS COMMISSION.
MAYBE SOCIAL WORKERS, AN ATTORNEY AND ONE OVER HERE AND ONE OVER HERE. YOU ARE LOOKING AT ETHICS FROM ALL ANGLES AND NOT JUST A BLOATED PERSPECTIVE.
I WOULD SAY -- I WOULD LIKE MAYBE ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS TO STAY AND ONE OF THEM REMOVED AND THEN GET SOMEBODY ELSE THAT IS MORE OCCUPATION ALLEY -- OCCUPATIONALLY DIVERSE.
THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SOLOMAN. SEEING NONE, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE BEFORE US RESOLUTION 48 WHICH IS COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON RESOLUTION 48? MADAM CLERK? OH YES. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN?
>> WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SEPARATE IT? IT IS ALL OR NOTHING? MR. GOODSON, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THE PARLIAMENTARY QUESTION.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: LET'S GET ONE ATTORNEY UP.
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>> I AM STILL THE SITTING ATTORNEY, AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT A SPECIFIC ETHICS COMPLAINT AGAINST ME SO I CAN GIVE ADVICE TO THE COUNCIL AND I AM THE PARL MEN TEAR YEN FOR THE -- PARLIMETARIAN FOR THE CITY.
IT IS A MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION.
IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION RESOLUTION 48 YOU MAY HAVE TO DIVIDE IT TWICE IF YOU WANT TO SEPARATE THE NAMES OUT.
THE REASON I SAY THAT IS RESOLUTION 48 COVERS PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT BOARDS. YOU MAY HAVE TO DO A MOTION TO DIVIDE IT TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY AND THEN YOU COULD DIVIDE THE QUESTION FURTHER TO
VOTE ON THE INDIVIDUAL NAMES. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. MR. BAKER --
>> BUT YOUR VOTE IS ON UP OR DOWN.
YOU DON'T GET TO AMEND IT AND SUBSTITUTE.
>> CORRECT. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON ALLEN? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO INDIVIDUAL IT OUT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. THAT IS TO SEPARATE OUT FROM RESOLUTION 48 THE TOTAL ET THINGS -- ETHICS COMMISSION APPOINTEES FOR NOW. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: SO COUNCIL PERSON REDD ARE YOU
RECOGNIZED. >> SO CAN WE VOTE ON ALL?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE SPLITTING OUT THE ETHICS COMMISSION LIST FROM RESOLUTION 48 TO BE VOTED ON
I UNDERSTAND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MR. BAKER?
>> NOT INDIVIDUALLY? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: NOT YET.
>> YOU HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO SEPARATE THE NAMES OUT ON THE ETHICS COMMISSION YOU HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER VOTE ON WHETHER TO DIVIDE THE ETHICS COMMISSION APPOINTEES SEPARATELY.
AND THEN ONCE -- IF THOSE TWO PROCEDURAL MOTIONS PASS, THEN YOU WILL BE BACK ON RESOLUTION 48 WITH -- EXCEPT FOR THE ETHICS APPOINTEES AND YOU WILL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
AND THEN ASSUMING THE TWO DIVISION OF THE QUESTIONS OCCUR, YOU WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THREE SEPARATE VOTES ON
EACH NAME. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING? I TELL YOU, MR. BAKER. JUST STAY PUT.
>> I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT. SHE MADE A MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. IF I MAY TAKE A LIBERTY TO HELP YOU. DIVIDE THE RESOLUTION 48, SEPARATE OUT THE ETHICS APPOINTMENTS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YES. >> SHE MADE THE MOTION AND
ASKED FOR A SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT WAS
SECONDED. >> YOU TAKE A VOTE ON IT GOAT
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING?
MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE. >> MR. GARRETT.
>> 9 YES AND 4 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE MOTION PASSES TO DIVIDE THE QUESTIONS.
>> NOW YOU CAN EITHER TAKE UP RESOLUTION 48 OR IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO DIVIDE UP THE ETHICS APPOINTMENTS INTO INDIVIDUAL NAMES YOU CAN DO THAT EITHER
RESOLUTION 48. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: HANG ON.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOU AREN'T RECOGNIZED YET AND HE WASN'T EITHER. COUNCIL PERSON EVANS HAS HER BUTTON PUSHED. YOU ARE REC COG EASY INTOED.
RECOGNIZED. >> LET'S LET COUNCIL
PERSON -- >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: YOUR LIGHT
WAS LIT. >> SINCE THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO VOTE I GUESS ON THE PEOPLE APPOINTED TO THE ETHICS
COMMISSION. >> YOU CAN VOTE ON ALL THREE TOGETHER OR YOU CANADA VIED THE QUESTION FURTHER INTO INDIVIDUAL -- CAN DIVIDE THE QUESTION FURTHER TO INDIVIDUAL
NAMES. >> YOU CAN VOTE ON 48 WITHOUT
THE ETHICS COMMISSION NAMES. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHICH ATTORNEY HAS WORKED WITH THE CITY BEFORE.
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>> THERE ARE TWO ATTORNEYS. MR. RASIS HAS NEVER BEEN HIRED BY THE CITY. AS HE TOLD YOU, HE SUED THE CITY. MS. MARSH HAS NEVER BEEN HIRED BY THE CITY, BUT HER LAW FIRM HAS IN THE PAST.
THERE ARE NO PENDING CASES THEY REPRESENT THE CITY ON.
>> NOW THAT YOU SAY THAT I REMEMBER HIM SAYING SOMETHING
ON THE VIDEO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER.
>> DID MISS MARSH WORK AT THE LAW FIRM WHEN THE LAW FIRM WAS INVOLVED IN THE CASE THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THE CITY.
>> YES. >> SHE DID WORK THERE AT THE
SHE HAS WORKED AT THE FIRM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THEY HAVE REPRESENTED US IN A FEW MATTERS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST YOU WILL KNOW THAT THERE WERE -- I DON'T KNOW. 12 OR 15 TIMES THAT WE WERE SUED. HE SUED ME AND SUED THE MAYOR AND WE HAD TO HIRE SOMEBODY. MARK NOLAN ACTUALLY REPRESENTED US. LIKE I SAID, MS. MARSH HAS NEVER REPRESENTED US, BUT HER FIRM HAS.
>> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON REDD.
>> IS IT OKAY IF WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON RESOLUTION 48 WITHOUT THE ET THING -- ETHICS COMMISSION AND MAKE A MOTION
TO DO THAT? >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION THE CHAIR CAN DECIDE TO DO THAT.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: LET'S PROCEED WITH RESOLUTION 48.
IT HAS EVERYTHING BUT THE ETHICS COMMISSION MEMBERS.
>> SO MOVED. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ARE WE
READY TO VOTE ON THAT? >> YES.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MADAM CLERK, LET'S VOTE ON THAT.
>> 12 YES AND ONE ABSTAIN. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: RESOLUTION
48 PASSES. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE
ETHICS COMMISSION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. DO I HEAR A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION IS MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION NOMINEES. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN?
>> I WOULD SAY I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
I SPOKE ABOUT OCCUPATIONAL DIVERSITY.
THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH ETHICS.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY ONE PERSON.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS NOT BE ON THERE AND SOMEONE DLA -- THAT IS A LITTLE -- IT IS ANOTHER OCCUPATION. THEY CAN COME TOGETHER -- DIVERSITY IS NOT JUST ABOUT RACE.
THERE IS OCCUPATIONAL. WE WANT THIS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM ALL ANGLES. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE OCCUPATIONAL DIVERSITY ON OUR ETHICS
COMMISSION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON EVANS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT KNOWN I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER ON THE TOPIC
OF OCCUPATIONAL DIVERSITY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON REDD, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED AGAIN.
>> I CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED ON VOTING FOR THE ETHICS QUESTION NOMINEES.
THAT'S NONDEBATABLE. DO I HEAR A SECOND?
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I HEAR A SECOND. WE ARE VOTING ON CEASING THE DISCUSSION ON THE ETHICS COMMISSION NOMINEES.
IT TAKES TWO-THIRDS. IF YOU WISH TO SEEK -- CEASE DISCUSSION, VOTE I. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP TALKING, VOTE NO. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE
>> 9 YES AND 4 NO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION PASSES. WE ARE NOW ON THE MOTION TO CONSIDER THE ETHICS COMMISSION NOMINEES.
MR. SOLOMON DO YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL?
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> JUST BRIEFLY.
TWO OF THE MEMBERS I BELIEVE OF THIS BODY HAVE ET THINGS -- ETHICS COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST THEM.
OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, YOU MAY WANT TO LET
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THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THEY DO HAVE COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST YOU, BUT YOU ARE VOTING YOUR CONSCIENCE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY. I THINK THAT WOULD BEVISIBLE. >> IF MR. SOLOMON IS AWARE THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS. COUNCILMAN GARRETT, COUNCILMAN REDD AND COUNCILMAN -- AND MAYOR PIT -- AND
COUNCILMAN STREETMAN. >> YOU HAVE A LOT OF ETHICS COME PLAINTS. COMPLAINTS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THE STATEMENT MR. SOLOMON THAT WE
SHOULD MAKE IS -- >> YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS AN ETHICS COMPLAINT AGAINST YOU, BUT ARE YOU VOTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE BASED ON YOUR OWN
CONSCIENCE. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: I WILL LEAD OFF AND ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS AN ETHICS COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST ME, BUT I WILL BE VOTING IN THE BEST INTEREST IN THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.
COUNCILMAN STREETMAN. >> I TOO HAVE A PENDING ETHICS CHARGE AGAINST MYSELF, BUT I WILL BE VOTING IN THE BEST INTEREST IN THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I TOO HAVE A PENDING ETHICS CHARGE AGAINST ME, AND I WILL BE VOTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF CLARKSVILLE AND VOTING MY CONSCIENCE.
>> >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL
PERSON REDD. >> I HAVE AN ETHICS CHARGE
>> MR. RICHMOND. >> MR. LITTLE.
WE CAN VOTE TO SEPARATE THEM? >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE ARE
VOTING ON THE GROUP. >> WE BASS -- WE PASSED IT
ALREADY. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: VOTE
>> MS. STREETMAN. >> MS. EVANS.
>> MS. BUTLER. >> MAYOR PITTS.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION IS ADOPTED AND WE HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND WE ARE NOW ON TWO OTHER ITEMSES ON OUR AGENDA.
ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. >> WE HAVE TWO MORE?
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: WE SURE DO.
LET'S GET THE PAPER STRAIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 8, DISCUSSION
REGARDING ROBINSON V CITY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING.
>> SECOND. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: MOTION BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED TO POSTPONE.
>> IT WAS A DISCUSSION. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT WAS A DISCUSSION. SO YOU CAN WITHDRAW THE
DISCUSSION, BUT IT IS NOT -- >> WITHDRAW THE DISCUSSION.
>> IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, SHE IS THE SPONSOR AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
THERE IS REALLY NO NEED TO DO A MOTION TO POSTPONE.
SHE CAN SIMPLY ASK THE CLERK TO PUT IT ON FOR DISCUSSION
THE NEXT TIME. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: OKAY.
DID YOU HEAR THAT COUNCIL PERSON?
I JUST SAID I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: IT IS LATE.
ALL RIGHT WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LISTEN.
ITEM NUMBER 9. DISCUSSION REGARDING PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE OFFICIAL CHARTER.
COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT. YOU ASKED TO PUT THAT ON THERE
THANK YOU, MAYOR. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, THE DISCUSSION WILL BE VERY BRIEF.
I THINK I INCLUDED SOME OF MY PROPOSED CHARTER REVISIONS TO THE CITY CLERK. I BELIEVE THEY ARE IN YOUR PACKETS. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT CHARTER AND BE PREPARED NEXT MONTH TO MAYBE PRESENT SOME OF YOUR AMENDMENTS TO THE CHARTER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU.
COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN, YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED.
IN THE RESPECT OF TIME I WILL MAKE IT QUICK.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY GETTING TOGETHER WHAT THEY WANT THEIR AMENDMENTS TO BE FOR US TO LOOK AT NEXT WEEK, SEEING AS HOW IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO EVEN GET IT BROUGHT FORWARD AT THIS STATE THIS LATE IN THE
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GAME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ASK THE MAYOR TO FORM A COMMITTEE THAT COULD LOOK AT THE CHARTER AS A WHOLE SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND WE CAN INCLUDE THAT ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND REQUEST FOR NEXT SESSION.THANK YOU. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN SAID AND SUGGEST A COMMITTEE, BUT BREAK DOWN SINCE WE HAVE TIME TO TAKE A COUPLE CHAPTERS AT A TIME AND DO LIKE THREE OR FOUR CHAP -- CHAPTERS AT A MEETING AND WE CAN BE MORE ORGANIZED AS WE BRING FORWARD OUR CHANGES.
SO LIKE EACH HAVE A CHARTER AND THEN EACH MONTH ASSIGN AND THEN AT THE END IF WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ONE BACK. I WOULD VOLUNTEER FOR THAT AS
WELL. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS ITEM?
COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT? >> YEAH.
I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AND SAY LET'S BRING ALL OF THE CHARTER REVISIONS ON THAT DAY NEXT MONTH AND GET IT HASHED OUT RIGHT THEN AND THERE VERSUS CREATING A COMMITTEE PUT IT ALL ON THE TABLE AND GET IT DONE AND OVER
WITH AND WE ARE GOOD TO GO. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS
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MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS.ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT, COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER?
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE OFFICIALLY BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THAT IT IS NOW COUNCILMEMBER ASHLEY EVANS'
BIRTHDAY SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY. >> [APPLAUSE]
>> MAYOR JOE PITTS: COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> NEXT TIME I WILL DO IT AFTER THE STREET DEPARTMENT. SHOUT OUT TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT THEY GOT SO MANY THINGS ACCOMPLISHED AND IT WAS NOT EVEN FUNNY. I WANT TO GIVE THEM A BIG OLD
KUDOS. >> MAYOR JOE PITTS: THEY ALL WORK HARD. THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE? >> WITHOUT OBJECT WE
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