Mar 29, 2021 Executive Meeting

[1) SPECIAL RECOGNITION]

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>> I'D LIKE TO INVITE MORE MARSHAL TO JOIN ME.

MS. MARSHAL. AFTERNOON MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO KIE LAMAR SHALL.

SHE IS A LIFE GUARD THAT HAS WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR A LITTLE WHILE. HER MAIM IS PROBABLY FAMILIAR TO YOU. BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THE STORY. SHE IS NERVOUS, SO LET'S MAKE HER FEEL AT EASE. KIE KIE LA WORKED AS THE PROVIDENCE POOL. AND SHE WAS ON DUTY AND A FIVE-YEAR-OLD WENT UNDER. AND KYLA RESPONDED ACCORDING TO HER TRAINING AND SHE RESCUED THAT FIVE-YEAR-OLD.

BEGAN BACK COMPRESSIONS, BACK RUBS.

OBVIOUSLY I AM NOT A LIFE GUARD. AND SAVED THE CHILD'S LIFE.

BUT ALSO SAVED A FAMILY FROM A LIFETIME OF GRIEF AND PAIN.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, AND THE CITY COUNCIL, I WANT TO PRESENT YOU TO YOU THIS CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING DECISIVE ACTIONS THAT YOU TOOK ON MARCH 15TH, OF THIS YEAR. IN QUICK THINKING PREVENTED A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS FROM OCCURRING THAT DAY.

YOUR BRAVERY WAS INSTRUMENTAL DURING THIS EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. HER ACTIONS WERE HEROIC.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A HERO IN OUR MIDST.

[APPLAUSE] IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD. AND STAND WITH KYLA.

AND WE WANT TO GIVE THAT TO YOU. AND WE HAVE CAMERAS HERE.

THANK YOU, KIE LA KYLA. [APPLAUSE] PAUSE OF THE LENGTHS ON OUR MEETING WITH SO MUCH ON AGENDA.

[13) PUBLIC COMMENTS]

ARE YOU ACROSS THE STREET? >> YES, I AM.

>> OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MONICA MEEKS. I AM ACCOMPANIED BY OUR NATIONAL

COMMANDER YOLANDA WILLIAMS. >> YOU MAY PROCEED, PLEASE.

>> I AM A COMMANDER OF VETERANS OF AMERICAN W.V.A. CHAPTER 47 LADY WARRIORS. OUR MANY US IS TO ADVOCATE FOR ALL WOMEN VETERANS. THE VISION OF THE WVA IS TO BE A VOICE FOR WOMEN WHO HAVE AND ARE SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES. THE WVA ACTS AS AN ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN'S VETERANS RIGHTS ISSUES, BENEFITS, AND RECOGNITION.

VETERAN ISSUES SHOULD ALWAYS BE BIPARTISAN.

STOP USING VETERANS AS POLITICAL PAWNS OR TELLING US WHAT OUR PATRIOTISM SHOULD LOOK LIKE. INSTEAD LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, AND THE STAY OF TENNESSEE, AND EMULATE IT.

OUR MEMBERS CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE ARE THE FIRST TO SIGN UP FOR VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES.

WOMEN VETERAN'S OF AMERICA IS ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE VETERAN SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY.

THE WVA EMBRACES INTERRACIAL AND CULTURAL GAPS.

WE SERVE IN THE ARMY, THE KNAVE, HAVE THE UNITED STATES AIR

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SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBERS ALSO SERVE DURING THE VIETNAM ERA.

WE AL HAVE MEMBERS THAT SERVED IN COMBAT DURING THE GULF WAR, OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM AND OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM.

BUT ENOUGH ABOUT HOW GREAT WE ARE. REMEMBER WOMEN THAT ARE VETERANS TOO. A WOMAN IS A VETERAN IF SHE SERVED IN OR IS SERVE MANAGER THE MILITARY.

IF YOU SERVED IN THE MILITARY WHETHER IT WAS THREE YEARS OR 30 YEARS YOUR SERVICE MATTERS. YOU MATTER.

START IDENTIFYING AS A VETERAN. LESS THAN ONE HALF OF 1% OF THE U.S. POPULATION SERVED IN THE MILITARY.

SERVING IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY. WOMEN VETERANS ARE NOT ASKING FOR TOO MUCH. ON JUNE 121,938TH.

SIGNED GO LAW THE WOMEN'S ARMED SERVICE INTEGRATION ACT.

THIS LAW LEGALLY PERMITTED WOMEN TO SERVE AS REGULAR AND PERMANENT MEMBERS OF THE U.S. ARMS FORCED AND SEVERAL OFFICIAL CAPACITIES. JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR, WOMEN DISDEVICE THEMES AS MEN IN ALL MALE ARMIES AS FAR BACK AS OUR HISTORY GOES. THE ONLY KNOWN SOL WHO WAS DENY ADDIS ABILITY PENSION BECAUSE OF HER GENDER.

WOMEN VETERAN'S LOVE A COUNTRY THAT DISMISSES US OR PUSHING US TO THE MARGINS. AS WE DISCUSS ISSUES SPECIFIC TO VETERANS. DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.

TYPE THE WORD VETERAN AND LET ME KNOW IF I FIT THE TRANSCRIPTION OF ANY OF THOSE IMAGES. WELL FACE UNIQUE CHALLENGES WHEN TRANSITIONING FROM ACTIVE CIVILIAN LIFE.

SINGLE MOTHER HEAD COMPOUNDS ISSUES FOR WOMEN.

THIS IS TOO TO GENDER BIAS AND THE GENDER WAGE GAP.

WOMEN VETERANS ARE TWICE AS LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS AS WOMEN THAT DID NOT SERVE IN THE MILITARY.

WHILE WOMEN VETERANS MAKE UP 10% OF THE VETERAN POPULATION, WE ARE THE FASTEST GROWING SEGMENT OF THE VETERAN POPULATION.

TO RECOGNIZE ALLOWING THE RECEIVE.

IN THE MILITARY NOT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WOMEN THAT RAISED OUR RIGHT HAND AND SCORE TO DEFEND THE INSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST AN ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

THERE ARE 44,405 WOMEN VETERANS IN TENNESSEE.

WE MAKE UP 9.44% OF THE VETERAN POPULATION IN THIS STATE.

THERE ARE 7,000 WOMEN VETERANS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

THE SOURCE OF THIS INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.VA.GOV/VET DATA. IT IS TIME TO HONOR THE SACRIFICES AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF WOMEN VETERANS.

THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR A SEPARATE VETERAN'S DAY.

I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN. THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR A SEPARATE VETERAN'S DAY. JUNE 12TH IS WOMEN VETERAN'S RECOGNITION DAY. YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SEE CHAPTER 47 ON THE FIRST SATURDAY EVERY NOVEMBER IN THE CLARKSVILLE VETERAN'S DAY PARADE. BECAUSE REPRESENTATION MATTERS.

WOMEN VETERANS RECOGNIZE SIMPLY HONORS THOSE OFTEN OVERLOOKS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE 7,000 WOMEN VETERANS I THINK AS MEMBERS OF THE CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL.

THREE. PARDON ME.

GOOD TO SEE COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS HERE.

SO WE HAVE THREE. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. OKAY.

IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER REGARDING HOLDING OPEN MEETING AND IN PUBLIC, THIS GOVERNING BODY DETERMINED THAT MEETING ELECTRONICALLY IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF ITS CITIZEN DUE TO THE COVID-19 OUTBREAK.

[2) PLANNING COMMISSION]

MR. TINDALL IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND LEAD US THROUGH THESE.

>> WE HAVE SOMEONE ONLINE THAT NEEDS TO MUTE.

IF YOU DON'T MINE. WITH REGETTING BACKGROUND NOISE.

THANK YOU, GOOD EARNING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

WE DO HAVE SEVEN CASES BEFORE YOU HERE TONIGHT.

I WILL TRY TO RUN THROUGH THEM AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU

HAVE. >> BEFORE YOU GET STARTED ITEM

NUMBER ONE IS ORDINANCE 404. >> THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION CASES E 11/20/21. THIS IS THE APPLI ALLY REDA HOME

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CURRENTLY ZONED R ONE. AND REQUESTING TO GO TO R. 4.

IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO THE EAST.

IT IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF 20 RIVERS ROAD AND NOLAN ROAD INTERSECTION. THE CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER NINE. THE PROPERTY IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNIT, WITH A OUTBUILDING AND SEVERAL TREES ON THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS REZONING TO BUILD CONDOS TO SELL INDIVIDUALLY WITH AN H.O.A.

TO ENSURE PROPER PROPERTY MAY NOT INNOCENCE AND MANAGEMENT.

THAT WAS PREVIOUS ZONING CASE IN 2012 WHICH WAS DENIED.

LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

AS THE HOUSE THAT SITS FAIRLY FAR BACK ON THE PROPERTY.

HERE IT IS HEAD ON. AND LOOKING TOWARD THE END OF NOLAND ROAD, THERE'S A CONCRETE PLANT AT THE VERY END.

AND THERE'S ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE BETWEEN THAT AND THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THIS IS LOOKING FROM NOLAND ROAD YOUR BACK IS AT OLD TRENTON ROAD HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT APARTMENTS ON YOUR LEFT.

THIS IS A VIEW ACROSS THE STREET OF ONE OF THE TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOODS OF THAT PART OF TIME.

AND FROM THAT CROSS STREET LOOKING BACK UP THE PROPERTY TO THE LEFT IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THE HOME TO THE RIGHT IS ONE LAST HOME ON NOLAND ROAD. BEFORE WE AGAIN GET THE CONCRETE PLANT. LOOKING BACK UP THE ROAD.

>> THE APARTMENT COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THE GAS AND WATER DEPARTMENT SAID MAY REQUIRE WATTSTER SEWER SYSTEM UPGRADES.

NO GRAVITY SEWER IN THE AREA. AND TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS REQUIRED. IT WAS SUBMITTED AND APPROVE BED I THE STREET DEPARTMENT. AND THE OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM CONCERNS THE CAPACITY OF THE SCHOOLS THAT THIS WOULD BE HISTORICAL ESTIMATES FOR THIS SITE WOULD BE 46 UNITS. IT IS IN THE TRENTON ROAD PLANNING AREA. PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSIST WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN.

THE R FOUR REQUEST IS A CONTINUATION OF THE ESTABLISHED R FOUR ZONING TO THE EAST. THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND NO ADVERSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED RELATIVE TO THIS REQUEST.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL INFORMATION THANK YOU, AN END MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 84? COUNCIL PERSON SMITH YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED? >> MAYOR, I HAVE ONE AS WELL.

>> I HAVE YOU ON THE LIST. >> GO AHEAD COUNCIL PERSON

SMITH. >> ANY OPPOSITIONS WHAT THE

SCHOOL SYSTEM HAD SAID? >> FOR THE PARAMEDICS NO.

WE RECEIVE AS FEW PHONE CALLS BUT NO ONE LOGGED AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT OR COMMENTS. FIVE LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT

IT WAS. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS YOU ARE WITH US ONLINE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED?

>> YES. THANK YOU.

I CONTROVERSY THIS AREA AND THIS IS IN MY DISTRIBUTION.

HOW ARE YOU MR. TYNDALL. MY CONCERNS ARE THE STOP AT THE END OF THE STREET, AT NOLAND AND OLD TRENTON.

I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND HONESTLY, I AVOID THAT THREE WAY, FOUR WAY, WHO KNOWS WHAT TO DO WAY STOP.

AND WE ARE ADDING PARAMEDICS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OLD TRENTON INTO THAT TRAFFIC AS WELL. I DID SPEAK TO THE -- ROADS -- I

DON'T KNOW IF I SAID THAT RIGHT. >> PROBABLY IF WE SAY YOU SAID 40 -- AND THAT MANY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THAT IS GOING TO BE MAKE. THAT ROAD IS.

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>> TRYING TO VIEW WERE WE DENIES IT LAST TIME AND THEN YOU STILL APPROVE IT THIS TIME. I KNOW YOU WERE NOT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEN. BACK IN 2012.

WAS OUR FILE NUMBER -- >> THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE VOTE, BUT THAT'S HOW THAT

VOTE HAPPENED IN 2012. >> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS?

>> YES, SIR. I HAVE ALSO WALKED THE -- I MEAN I DROVE THE AREA TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I SENT AN EMAIL WITH SOME IMAGES OF THE CORNER AND THIS ROAD.

AND MY CONCERN IS AGAIN, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.

WE ARE ADDING PRETTY MUCH STUDENT HOUSING OR GROUPING TOGETHER. THAT'S A VERY THIN ROAD.

IT REALLY WAS TRUCKS GOING UP AND DOWN, AND THERE IS NO PLAN TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THAT ROAD.

I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT ADDING THIS MANY MORE CORES FOR A ROAD THAT ISN'T DESIGNED TO CARRY THIS MUCH TRAFFIC.

NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE HISTORICAL HISTORY THAT TRANSPIRES WITH THIS PARTICULAR ZONING ORDINANCE.

IT DID PASS BOTH THE STAFFING COMMISSION, AND THE RESIDENT THIS IS THAT PARTICULAR AREA WERE EXTREMELY ORGANIZED.

LED BY SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE VERY ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT.

THE COUNCIL AS OFTEN TIMES WE GET BOMBARDED SOMETIMES WITH FEEDBACK IN OPPOSITION OF PARTICULAR ZONING.

WHICH IS A LOT OF THE CRY TIER THAT WAS USED TO PASS IT LAST TIME AS WELL AS THIS TIME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. IS IT THE SAME EXACT PROPOSAL? SO THE LAST TIME WERE THEY TRYING TO REZONE IT FOR THE SAME EXACT REZONING? OR HAS ANYTHING CHANGED FROM THE

LAST TIME? >> NO.

THE SAME OWNER AND IT IS THE SAME R. 4 REQUEST.

>> OKAY. >> THEIR PLAN MAY BE DIFFERENT, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING IN THE ORIGINAL ONE.

BUT THIS ONE AS HE MENTIONED WAS A SERIES OF I BELIEVE DUPLEXES FOR SALE. BUT YES SAME REQUEST AS 2012.

>> THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING

ORDINANCE 84? >> SEEING NONE, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM TWO. 2020-21.

MR. TYNDALL? >> THAT IS PLANNING COMMISSION FILE Z. 12/20/21. AGAIN, THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF RED DA HOME BUILDERS. 2.85 ACRES.

CURRENTLY ZONED R 1. AND REQUESTING TO GO TO R. 6.

IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

RIGHT OF WAY, AND LOCATED ON THE NORTH FRONTAGE OF CAVE SPRINGS ROAD IN COUNCIL WARD NUMBER 4. IT IS A WOODED SLOPING TRACK.

AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO PROVIDE AFFORDING LIVING WITHIN THE CITY, AND IMPROVE THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

FROM TIME TO TIME, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL PUT SOME OTHER MAPS UP OF INTERESTS THAT WE HAVE USED TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION OR THAT WE'VE EXPLORED BECAUSE OF CONCERNS WE HAVE WHEN WE VISIT THE SITE. THESE ARE CONTOUR LINES FOR

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IS THE HIGHEST RIDGE UP THERE AND THEN IT GOES STEEPLY DOWN, AND THERE'S A STREAM THAT RUBS TO THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE LOW POINT. SO THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE A LOT OF TOPOGRAPHY NEAR THE TOP. LESS ON THE BOTTOM SIDE WHICH IS I BELIEVE CAVE SPRINGS ROAD. CIRCLE HILL DRIVE IS THE NORTH RIGHT OF WAY. C TWO ALONG FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD, R 3 IN THE MORE MUST SATURDAY YELLOW AND THEN R ONE, R TWO AND OTHERS AND THEN R. 4 IN THE ORANGE.

AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT RISES. THERE IS CAVE SPRINGS ROAD.

DOWN NEAR THE END THERE IS A GATE.

SOMEONE HAS GATED THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT JOBBING IT WILL BE A PROBLEM. THIS LOYS JUST ON THAT GATE, I AM SURE THEY WILL WORK IT OUT. THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER PROPERTY BEYOND THIS ON THE ROAD. THIS IS A DENNED END.

THERE'S A STOP SIGN AND THEN SOMEONE'S DRIVE WAY.

THE TOP END OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE TREES IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THE BOTTOM END IS THOSE OTHER VIEWS THAT YOU SAW FROM THE BOTTOM. THE DEPARTMENT COMMENTS.

NO COMMENTS FROM GAS AND WATER. THAT WILL BE A GRADING PERMIT AND WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STREET DEPARTMENT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COMMENTS REGARDING CAPACITY. TOUGH TO ESTIMATE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS. BASED ON THE ACREAGE WE WOULD SAY 12, BUT THERE'S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT THE ACREAGE ON THE NORTH ROAD CAN'T BE USED WELL FOR MULTIPLE LOTS.

AND THEN IT IS JUST A MATTER OF HOW MANY YOU CAN GET ON THE SOUTH. WE ESTIMATED 12 FOR ALL THE ACREAGE COULD BE USED. STAFF RECOMMENDS TIS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSING STONING REQUEST ISISH INCONSIST WITH THE LAND USE PLAN. THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THIS ALREADY EXISTS WITH THE R ONE CLASSIFICATION.

AND THE PROPOSED R 6 DENSITY IS NOT IN CHARACTER WITH THE EXISTING R. 1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION,

HOWEVER, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU.

COUNCIL PERSON STREITMANN YOU ARE RECK NIGHED?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. TYNDALL YOU STATED THAT THE ESTIMATE WOULD BE THAT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE ALL THE ACREAGE THEY COULD GOAT 12 HOMES IN THERE.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ESTIMATE UTILIZING THE CURRENT ZONING?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> I AM SO SORRY.

I SHOULD HAVE LET YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE.

>> I WILL HAVE TO GET OUT THE CALCULATOR HERE.

>> FIVE AND A HALF TO SIX. SO ABOUT DOUBLE WITH THIS

APPLICATION. >> THANK YOU.

COINS PERSON GARRETT YOUR ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> YEAH, THIS WASSING THE DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO IT.

IT COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY. I THINK WHAT PREVAILED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF THE PLANNING MEMBERS BUT DEFINITELY A MAJORITY OF IT I GUESS MAYBE FOLLOW THIS LINE OF LOGIC IN IT. ALTHOUGH THE RECOMMENDATION HAD IN THERE THAT IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LANDS USE PLAN, R 6 IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO IF YOU LOOK SURROUNDING THAT, ONE THING WE LOOKED AT ON THE COMMISSION SIDE OF IT, WAS FOR THE MOST PART EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS SINGLE FAMILY. ALL WE ARE DOING IS DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT CAN BE PUT ON THAT PARTICULAR STRETCH OF ROAD. WE KNOW THERE'S A NEED FOR INFIELD DEVELOPMENTS TO AVOID SPRAWL.

SPRAWL IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RESULTS IN US HAVING TO CONSTANTLY BUILD NEW SCHOOLS. CONSTANTLY STRETCH OUR UTILITY NETWORKS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND CARRY INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. THIS INFIELD -- THE OTHER THING TO LOCK AT IS OFTEN TIMES THESE DEVELOPERS THEY GET A BAD NAME FOR BEING GREEDY, BUT WHAT WE FAIL TO SEE IS THE BIG PICTURE.

WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING DOWN AT THE SUMMER STATE, AND WHAT THEY ARE FACING FROM THE SAW MILLS THE LUMBER COMPANIES THE WHERE THEY GET THEIR SUBPOENA PLIES. BEING IMPACTED BY COVID, WHICH

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SO IF ALL THEIR COS ARE DRIVEN UP, HOW CAN THEY BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSES FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE CALLED TO SERVE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN? RIGHT NOW, STARTER HOMES ARE NOW AT ABOUT THE 165, 175 RANGE. THAT'S EXISTING.

NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT SAME VERSION OF A STARTER PHONE CAN RANGE A $230,000. GOING R 6 ALLOWS FOR SOMEBODY TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A NEW CONSTRUCTION HOUSE FOR $175,000.

AGAIN, MAKING A NEW HOUSE AFFORDABLE, TO THE RESIDENTS MANY THE AREA. SO THAT ADDRESSES FROM MAYBE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS BUT THEN YOU ALSO LOOK AT THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND COSTS. SO TO DEVELOP THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL AND ONLY GET FIVE AND A HALF HOUSES ON IT, WE ARE WASTING AN ADDITIONAL 5.5 TO SIX HOUSES.

THE MORE HOUSES YOU HAVE, OBVIOUSLY, IT HELPS ADDRESS THE DEMAND ISSUE. THE FEWER HOUSES THE MORE PEOPLE -- WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE BIDDING -- IT WAS I THOUGHT IT WAS OUTRAGEOUS TO GET 10,000S OVER THE LIST PRICE, WITHOUT ASKING THE SELL TORE PAY CLOSING COSTS.

THAT'S STANDARD NOW. TO GET BIDS THESE DAYS YOU ARE HAVING TO ALMOST BID 20, AND $25,000 OVER THE LIST PRICE WITH NO CLOSING COSTS. HOW MANY FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS TO YOU KNOW CAN PAY THEIR OWN CLOSING COSTS TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE ON THE APPRAISED VALUE AND WHAT THE SALES PRICE IS. THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS GOING WITHOUT HOUSES THAT ARE TRYING TO JUST ACCOMPLISH THE AMERICAN DREAM. WHEN YOU ROOK AT THE AREA, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING MULTIFAMILY IN THERE, OR COMMERCIAL TRACT. THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS BEING OUT OF CHARACTERISTIC. BUT WE ARE GUSTABLING DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IN A DEVELOPED AREA IN A SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT IS HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY THAN SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS

THAT CAME TO MY MIND. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE. I'VE LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE MORE LIGHT. THIS IS A BIGGER PICTURE ITEM OF WHAT GOES TO R 6. AND BEAR WITH ME.

ESPECIALLY THE SIGNERS IN THE BACK.

R 1 LOT WIDTH, SO HOW WIDE THE LOT CAN BE IS CAPPED AT 90 FEET.

R ONE A IS 80 FEET. R 2 IS 70 FEET.

AND R 2A. IS 60 FEET. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY LOT WIDTH ZONES AVAILABLE TO MEET WHAT WE COULD CONSIDER AN AFFORDABLE PRODUCT. YOUR AVERAGE HOUSE RIGHT NOW IS BETWEEN 30 AND 35 FEET WIDE. IN MOST PLACES SO THE LOTS -- EVEN WITH THE SMALLEST SET BACKS ON EACH SIDE, YOU NEED A 35-FOOT LOT, THE ONLY ZONE THAT CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT IS R 6, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SEEN A PICK UP IN R 6 ZONES.

HERE IN CLARKSVILLE. WE ARE TALKING TO SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS ABOUT CREATING AN ADDITIONAL ZONE THAT GRIGS THE GAP. THAT WOULD BE A MORE MODERATE SIZE, BUT WOULD PROBABLY CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF REQUESTS FOR R 6S TO GET THEM BACK TO A TRUE INFIELD ZONE.

WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR.

AND MAYBE ALLOWED THIS R TWO B. WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF LETTERS AND NUMBERS. WE ALWAYS GRAVITATE TO THE SMALLEST POSSIBLE LOT IN THIS SITUATION.

IN THIS POSITION I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HE IS GOING TO DO A 25 O35-FOOT LOT. BUT R. 6 IS SIT THE ONLY

AVAILABLE. >> FLOCK, WAS THERE SOMEONE ONLINE THAT WISHED TO BE RECK NIGHED?

>> I DID. >> COUNCIL PERSON REMEMBER

KNOLLEDS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> YES.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO INFILL, BUT MY CONCERN IS THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON, IS THAT WE ALSO CONTINUE WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE CANNOT JUST CONTINUE TO INFILL AND IGNORE INFRASTRUCTURE. WHERE WE TALK ABOUT FOR INSTANCE

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THESE SMALLER ROADS WE ARE SHOWING WE WILL SHOW IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF IMAGES, THEY ARE JUST NOT BUILT TO HOLD THE TRAFFIC.

SO IF WE ARE GOING TO INFILL, THEN WE AS THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE BUILDERS OF OUR COMMUNITY NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT INCLUDES SIDEWALKS, AND THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND I DON'T -- I SOMETIMES FEEL THAT WE AREN'T DOING A GOOD BALANCE.

WE TALK ABOUT INFIELD, BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT HOW SOON IT IS WE WILL FIX THE ROADS. THAT WE ARE PUTTING THESE CARS

ON TO. >> ANY OTHER MEMBER WISH TO BE

RECOGNIZED ON ORDINANCE 85? >> SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM 3. ORDINANCE 80 SINCE.

2020-21. MR. TEND CALL.

>> PLANNING COMMISSION E 14, 2021.

BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT AND YOU WILL NOTICE I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING A LITTLE SLOWER. WORKING WITH OUR SIGN LANGUAGE EXPERTS IN THE BACK AND TRYING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TIME TO CATCH UP. THEY ARE PROS YOU CAN FLY, THERE WELL. I HAVE BEEN ALREADY REFERRED TO ONCE ON THE PHONE AS THAT FAST TALKING GUY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION Z. A STATE OF FRANK WOOTEN LINDA ROBERTS IS THE EXECUTOR. AGENT IS CODY DAHL.

THIS IS .28 ACRES. CURRENTLY ZONED R 3.

AND REQUESTING R 6. AND IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S SOME POCKETS OF R. 6 THAT HAVE BEEN ZONED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN THIS AREA. CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER 6, IT IS AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SLUR ON ONE PARCEL.

AND THEY WISH TO REPLACE THE EXISTING HOUSE WITH FOUR NEW HOUSES. INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES AND TAXES FOR THE AREA. THE HOME IN QUESTION IS THE WHITE ONE ON THE LEFT THERE. THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE SIDE STREET BACK TO REYNOLDS STREET CROSSING.

HERE IS THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE DEMOLISHED IF THIS WAS APPROVED. THE HOUSE ON THE LEFT THAT'S THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. TWO PROPERTY RUNS FROM THOSE BUSHES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE CORNER.

THAT'S THE NEIGHBORING PARTY, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BLOCK ON REYNOLDS STREET. GAS AND WATER SAID SEWER -- WATER SYSTEM UPGRADES MAY BE REQUIRED.

REYNOLDS STREET IS A COLLECTOR STREET ACCORDING TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT. ACCESS WILL FOLLOW CITY ORDINANCE WHICH IS MEANS NO NEW DRIVE WAYS ON REYNOLDS STREET.

AND THERE WERE NO OTHER COMMENTS EXCEPT FOR SCHOOL SYSTEM CAPACITY CONCERNS. FOUR UNITS AND THE APPLICANT ALSO ESTIMATES FOUR UNITS. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE REQUEST IS CONSIST WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN.

THE R. 6 SINGLE FAMILY ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA OR USES.

ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL SUPPORTIVE USES SUCH AS MAS-TRANSIT RETAIL.

SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND NO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.

PLANNING ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> COUNCIL PERSON SMITH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> I HAVE ONE TOO.

>> I HAVE YOU ON THE LIST. >> MR. TYNDALL WHEN YOU SAY UNITS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HOUSES? I HEARD YOU SAY FOUR IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, THIS WOULD BE FOUR INDIVIDUAL HOUSING.

>> HOW MANY BEDROOMS? TWO OR THREE.

>> TWO OR THREE. >> ARE THEY SMALL HOUSES LIKE BUILDING NOW OVER OFFER OF CROSSLAND?

THOSE HOUSES SIMILAR TO THAT? >> BASED ON THAT WE ARE STARTING WITH JUST OVER A QUARTER ACRE HERE AND THEY WANT FOUR, THIS WOULD BE SOME OF THE SMALLEST LOTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN THIS AREA. VERY COMPARABLE THOUGH TO SOME OF THE HISTORIC LOTS ON THE CEDAR STREET REYNOLDS AVENUE AREA. BUT IT WOULD BE FOUR QUITE SMALL LOTS. ABOUT 25 FEET WIDE AND 100 FEET DEEP EACH. SO THE HOMES AT THAT POINT YOU

CAN ONLY GO UP. >> YEAH.

CERTAINLY MAKE IT LOOK BETTER OVER THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT LOT IS VERY SMALL.

I AM PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA.

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ONE TO TWO BEDROOMS. THREE WOULD BE A STRETCH.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON

REYNOLDS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED? >> YES.

MR. TYNDALL WOULD THIS DESIGN REQUIRE THE HOMES TO SHARE A

DRIVE WAY? >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO COME OFF

CEDAR STREET? >> YOU HAVE TWO THINGS WORKING.

THE STREET DEPARTMENT SAID NO NEW CURB CUTS.

WHICH WOULD ACCESS THE BACK OF TREMENDOUS OR FOUR LOTS.

HOWEVER HOWEVER MANY THEY CAN YIELD.

SO ALL THE ACCESS WOULD BE OUT THE BACK AND THEN THAT ALLOWS THE HOMES TO BE ABOUT ZERO TO FIVE FEET.

DEPENDING ON HOW MANY FEET OF EASEMENT GAS AND WATER AND STREETS THEY NEED. THE HOMES CAN BE FIVE OR SO FEET OFF REYNOLDS STREET. SO DRIVE WAYS IN THE BACK.

AND NEW SIDEWALK WOULD BE REQUIRES AS PART OF THE PLATTING

PROCESS OF THE NEW LOTS. >> R THREE IS A FUNNY ZONE.

RIGHT NOW THEY CAN BUILD A TRI-PREX.

THEY CAN PUT A TRI-PLEX IN ITS PLACE.

OR THEY CAN DO A DUPLEX. THEY COULD DIVIDE IT.

INTO MAYBE TWO LOTS. DEPENDING ON IF THEY MEET THE 9,000 SQUARE FOOT MEN MUM LOT SIZE FOR R 3.

BUT RIGHT NOW AS EXISTING THEY COULD HAVE A TRI-PLEX ON THAT ONE LOT. SO YOU ARE TAKING WHAT COULD BE THREE UNITS AND ASKING FOR THREE OR FOUR HOMES IN ITS PLACE.

WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM FOUR. WE HAD A COUPLE OF DEFERRALS THIS PAST MONTH. THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF KOLBE HOMES. CURRENTLY ZONED -- LET ME SEE THERE. 19.43 ACRES.

CURRENTLY ZONED R 2D. FOR DUPLEXES.

REQUESTING TO GO TO R. 4. THE PROPERTY FRONTS MILL ROAD, 355 FEET NORTH OF PEACHERS MILL ROAD.

AND RANDELL DRIVE INTERSECTION LOCATED AT THE WESTERN TEEM NEWS OF LEE ANN DRIVE. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE TOPOGRAPHY MATTERS. THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE LOW POINT AS WE ARE LOOKING AT IT.

AND YOU CAN SEE HOW STEEP IT IS BACK FROM PEACHER'S MILL ROAD.

AND LEIGH ANN DRIVE IS THAT SMALL AREA TO THE NORTH.

WE AREN'T EVEN SURE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A BUILDING LOT AT THE END OF THAT CUL-DE-SAC. THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF REZONED TO BUILD FROM. BUT IN THE END IT MAY JUST BE A FEW UNITS UP THERE, AND THE REST ALL BE ACCESSED OFF PEACHER'S ROAD. THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS -- I WILL USE THE WORD JUNK FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE PHOTOS IN A SECOND.

THIS IS LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY IS ACROSS THE STREET. THERE'S THE ONLY USABLE PART OF THE PROPERTY AS YOU ARE ROOKING AT AND IT THEN IT FALLS OFF AT THE REAR TREE LINE VERY QUICKLY. THERE'S ONE PROPERTY TO THE LEFT THAT APPEARS TO BE A DUPLEX OR A FEW MORE UNIS.

AND A QUAD PLUS OR EIGHT PLEX TO THE RIGHT OF IT.

THERE'S ACROSS THE STREET, AND ALSO ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S LEIGH ANN DRIVE. A LITTLE HARD TO SEE.

THE MONITOR IS A LITTLE DARK. BUT WHERE THAT POWER POLE STARTS AND THEN IT DIPS INTO THAT AREA. AND THEN IT RISES BACK UP AND THE OTHER END OF THE CLEARING IS PEACHER'S ROAD AGAIN.

YOU CAN'T BRIDGE THAT AREA EFFECTIVELY.

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A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND APPROVED. THERE IS A DRAINAGE CONCERN.

THIS IS A BLUE LINE STREAM AND A 150-FOOT DROP FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT PROPERTY. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM CAPACITY COMMENTS OF NOTE.

IT IS IN THE PLANNING AREA. STAFF ESTIMATES 72 UNITS.

WE HAD 194 ORIGINALLY, BUT ADJUSTING FOR TOPOGRAPHY WE THINK 74 IS AN ADEQUATE ESTIMATE.

AND THE APPLICANT SAID 90 SINCE. WE WILL SEE WHO IS RIGHT IF IT GETS REZONED. BUT ALL THOSE UNITS WILL HAVE TO BE CLUSTERED UP. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSIST WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN. THE R FOUR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING ESTABLISHES USES.

THE PROPERTY IS INCOMBERRED BY STEVE TOPOGRAPHY, WHICH LIMITS FULL POTENTIAL AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE.

NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED RELATIVE TO THE REQUEST AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO REMEMBER MENDS

APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU, ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 87? WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM 5, ORDINANCE IT A IT A, 2020-21.

MR. TIPPED CALL. >> ALLY HAITIAN OF BLACK HAWK DEVELOPMENT. SINGLETARY AGENT.

4.3 ACRES. CURRENTLY ZONE R 2, AND IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

YES ARE OUT THERE SOUTH OF WEST KREIS COYOTE TRAIL.

THE SCHOOL IS ACROSS THE STREET AND TO THE LEFT.

THERE'S BEEN A LARGE SUB DEHYDRATION APPROVED AND HAS STARTED CONSTRUCTION TO THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT.

GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE RIVER.

IN THE R 2. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING R. FIVE NORTH OF IT AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF R. FIVE ACROSS THE STREET. AND C. 2 ACROSS THE STREET.

C. TIME IN THE DARK BLUE TO THE NORTH AND ACROSS THE STREET.

THE PROPERTY FRONTS PEACHER'S MILL ROAD.

COUNCIL WARD NUMBER 5. IT IS A CLEARED LANCE THAT'S UNDERDEVELOPMENT. AND THEY WISH TO DEVELOP PROPERTY INTO COMMERCIAL USES. IT HAS PREVIOUS ZONING HISTORY OF FOUR DIFFERENT ZONING CASES AND TWO SUBDIVISIONS.

DATING BACK TO TWINS. YOU CAN SEE THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET, TO I BELIEVE CALLED THE ALLEN FARM.

LOOKING NORTH ON PEACHER'S MILL ROAD.

AND THEN LOOKING SOUTH, THE PROPERTY IS HIGHER THAN THE ROAD HERE. THE STREET DEPARTMENT SAID ALL ACCESS WOULD BE OFF THE NEW ROAD INTERIMLY.

THIS MAY REQUIRE SEWER SYSTEM UPGRADES.

ACCORDING TO GAS AND WATER. A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS SUBMITTED AND APPROVED. AND THEY WILL REVIEW THE ACCESS AT SITE PLAN. NO ORE COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM THE DEPARTMENT. IT IS IN THE AIRPORT PLANNING AREA. TWO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSIST WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN. THE ARTERIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REQUEST IS AN EX-TEX OF C. 5 ZONING TO THE NORTH.

THE REQUEST IS AT A LOCATION OF A FUTURE ROADWAY INTERSECTION.

ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE.

NO ADVERSE ITEMS WERE IDENTIFIED.

RELATIVE TO THIS REQUEST AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO

RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU, WILL TYNDALL.

ANY MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED?

>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AS WHAT CAN BE PUT IN C. 5?

>> C. 5 IS OUR HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AND ARTERIAL COMMERCIAL ZONE. PRETTY MUCH ANY COMMERCIAL USE YOU CAN IMAGINE. C 5 ALLOWS ALL OF THEM.

HOTELS MOTELS. SELF-STORAGE.

AUTO CENTERS, ALL THE WAY TO RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, BOUTIQUE SHOPS AND ALMOST ANYTHING IN BETWEEN.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT WILMER RUDOLPH BOULEVARD, 90% OF THAT IS C FIVE TO BEGIN WITH. IT CAN REALLY RUN THE LIST

THERE. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT

THE PLAN IS? >> I DO NOT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

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>> COUNCIL PERSON NIGHT. >> SINCE THIS IS IN MY WARD THAT'S THE SAME QUESTION I HAD. PRETTY MUCH.

BUT I GUESS I CAN GET WITH YOU OFF LINE AND TALK ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 88? COUNCIL PERSON SMITH?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. USUALLY IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN, I DON'T THINK IT IS GOOD IDEA TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN ABOUT. BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO ESTABLISH. AND HOW LIT EFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT IS GOOD TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST CHANGE THE ZONE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO. WE NEED TO KNOW SOMETHING MORE ABOUT THE PLAN IF THEY HAVE ONE. IF THEY DON'T, I CAN'T SEE NO NEED TO VOTE A YES ON IT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT?

>> I WILL SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE OF THE STAFF REPORT, THE ONLY STATEMENT IS TO DEVELOP INTO COMMERCIAL USES.

SO THAT'S ALL WE HAD TO GO OFF OF.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> I HAVE YOU ON THE LIST, COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> ARE WE ALLOWED TO REQUEST THAT? OR THAT INFORMATION? SO THAT WE CAN REALLY LOOK AT THAT? OR IS IT.

>> I MAY -- >> DOES THE APPLICATION HAVE TO

GO THROUGH EXACTLY LIKE IT IS? >> IN -- I WELCOME ATTORNEY BAKER AT THE JUMP IN AT ANY POINT.

I BELIEVE WHEN IT COMES TO A ZONING CASE AT THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU ARE TAKING IT ON ITS FACE VALUE.

IF THEY DECIDE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION, THEY HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH IT. BUT IT IS NOT REQUIRED.

IF YOU DO REQUIRE AND IT SAY I AM NOT DOING TO REZONE YOU UNTIL OR IF THEN YOU GET INTO CONTRACT ZONING SITUATIONS.

SO YOU CAN'T MAKE A DEAL, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THEY DEVELOPER THAT SAYS I WILL ONLY APPROVE THIS IF YOU ARE GOING TO TO A RESTAURANT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

IT HAS TO BE ON FACE VALUE, AND BE ABLE TO ACCEPT ALL THE POSSIBLE USE THIS IS THAT ZONE. OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S CONDITIONAL ZONING. >> YEAH, IT IS CALLED CONDITIONAL ZONING. IT IS ALSO SOMETIMED REFERRED TO AS CONTRACT ZONING. AND THERE'S ONLY ONE PLACE IN TENNESSEE IT IS ALLOWED. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A PRIVATE ACT TO ALLOW IT IN CHATTANOOGA.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.

>> THANK YOU, BUT THAT WAS MY QUESTION AND IT'S BEEN ANSWERED.

>> ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL PERSON REDD YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I WAS DOING TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN AS CONTRACT ZONING. IF THEY DO HAVE VOLUNTARILY TELL YOU THE PLAN OF WHAT THEY ARE INTENDING TO PIE, THEY CAN ALSO CHANGE THEIR MIND LATER. AM I CORRECT.

>> CORRECT. >> BUT THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TELL US BE EVER HAND THE PURPOSE.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PERSON REDD.

>> WE KNOW THAT AS A COUNCIL WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.

WHETHER THEY DON'T TELL US AND IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT. BUT ALSO, IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF THAT POLICY SEEING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO TELL US.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE. IF YOU WOULD SUPPLY US WITH THAT, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> YEAH, THAT'S STATE LAW.

>> IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF IT I APPRECIATE IT.

WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE FOR THE CITY TO SAY THAT THEN WE NEED TO PROBABLY MAKE A LAW TO TRY TO MAKE AN ORDINANCE TO SEE IF WE CAN CONTAIN THAT. THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING IT AHEAD TO SAY YOUR HAVE TO DO THIS -- THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM SAYING. WHAT I AM SAYING IS WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY PLAN TO BUILD THERE.

IT COULD BE A TRAIN TRACK WITH A TRAIN COMING THROUGH.

AND SOMEONE LIVING THERE MAY NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT EVERY DAY.

ID COULD BE A NUISANCE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO JUST GIVEN AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY PLAN TO PUT FORTH IS A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE IT WISH TO SPEAK ON

ORDINANCE 88? >> HEARING NONE SEEING ONE WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 6, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 88.

2020-21. MR. TYNDALL.

>> PLANNING COMMISSION CASE NO. Z. 1/9/2021, THE APPLICATION OF JONATHAN BLICK. .37 ACRES.

CURRENTLY ZONED M 2. I WILL SHOW YOU THAT MAP IN A SECOND. AND PROPOSED TO GO TO R. 4.

IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE R. 4 TO THE WEST.

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IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER FOUR, IT IS A VACANT PARCEL OF LAND WITH A SLIGHT SLOPE. THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS ZONED TO R 4 TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY UNITS SIMILARS TO THE ONES MANY THE AREA. THIS PROPERTY DOES BACK UP TO THE VOL CAN PROPERTY. THE MINE OVER THERE.

NORTH FOURTH STREET. OH, OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. >> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.

>> YES, THANK YOU. I DROVE THIS ROAD ON THE WEEKEND, AND THERE ARE -- AND AGAIN, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I SENT A PICTURE OF THIS ROAD. THERE ARE CERTAIN POINTS OF IT THAT ONLY ONE CAR CAN GO DOWN THE ROAD AT A TIME.

AND IT IS IN NEED OF UPGRADE. AND ALSO AS MR. TYNDALL SAID IT BACKS UP TO THE QUARRY. SO WHERE I LIVE I HEAR THE BOOMS IN MY HOME IN WEST CREEK. AND THEY SHAKE MY HOUSE.

WE ARE BUILDING RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THAT QUARRY AND IT IS ALMOST LIKE A BUYER'S BEWARE ONCE AGAIN.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE TURNING M 2 INTO -- AT THIS CLOSE DISTANT TO THE QUARRY, BACK INTO RESIDENTIAL.

ESPECIALLY THAT ROAD DOES NOT HANDLE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

AGAIN, IT IS RIGHT ON THE QUARRY AND I JUST -- I HAVE -- LIKE WHAT WE DID TO THE SPEED WAY. EVERY TIME WE BUILT UP TO THE SPEEDWAY CLOSER AND CLOSER AND THEN NOW WE HAVE OUR RESIDENT WHO IS ARE COMPLAINING BECAUSE OF THE NOISE.

BEWE ALWAYS KNEW THE NOISE WAS THERE.

WE ARE STILL PUTTING POWSES ON THE EDGE OF IT AND WE KNOW THERE ARE EXPLOSIONS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, ARE YOU AWARE AT HOW NARROW THAT ROAD IS IN SOME AREAS? YES. WE DRIVE EVERY ONE OF THESE APPLICATIONS. SOMETIMES MULTIPLE TIMES.

SOMETIMES MULTIPLE STAFF. IF WE ALL NEED TO SEE MORE FOR OUR OWN EYES. AND IT DOES GET NARROW IN SOME AREAS. AS NOTED IN THE PHOTO YOU PROVIDED. THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN WEATHERED OVER THE YEARS AND COULD USE A PATCH JOB.

NOT SURE A QUAD PLEX THOUGH WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A LEAPT OF IMPROVEMENTS ON A STREET LIKE THIS.

BUT LIKE MANY STREETS IN BOTH THE PROVIDENCE, AND OTHER PARTS OF TOWN, OLDER NARROW AT TIMES AND -- I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. EVEN OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL?

COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN? >> SO, JUST LIKE THIS ROAD, I

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WE AREN'T DEVELOPING THE ROADS. AND I KNOW THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. SO HOW ARE WE -- HOW DO WE START PARTNERS OR DOING WHATEVER TO HELP GET THE ROADS ARE THEY NEED TO BE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS INFIELD THAT WE WANT TO DO IN OUR CITY? I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THAT

QUESTION. >> I WILL TAKE A STAB AT IT.

AND THEN CHRIS WITH THE SENIOR ENGINEER WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT MAY BE ON THE LINE. HE MAY BE ABLE TO ADD TO IT.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IF THE PROPERTY IS REZONED, THEN THEY WERE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN DETAILING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE TO WORK IN CONCERT WITH THE STREET DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS IF ANY WOULD BE MADE.

AND THEN THE STREET DEPARTMENT WOULD THEN SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND EITHER REQUIRE PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN.

OR SUGGEST, OR WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

AND THAT'S BEEN TAKING ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN IN TERMS OF A POSITIVE LIFE OF ITS OWN. AS WE ARE SEEING DEVELOPERS STEPPING UP AND DOING IMPROVEMENTS AT OUR REQUEST -- FRANKLY AT OUR REQUIREMENT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT GETS CLOSE TO THE ANSWER THAT YOU ARE WANTING. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 89?

>> WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM SEVEN, ORDINANCE 90.

LAST ONCE TONIGHT. APPLICATION OF CUMBERLAND RADIO PARTNERSHIP INCORPORATED. AGENT IS CHRIS BLACKWELL.

JUST OVER .4 ACRES. CURRENTLY ZONED R 3, PROPOSED TO GO TO R. 4, AND IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING TO THE EAST. THE PROPERTY FRONTS THE FRONTAGE OF MARTIN STREET, 1,470 FEET SOUTH OF CROSSLAND AVENUE AND MARTIN STREET INTERSECTION IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER 6.

AND THERE'S THE ZONING. THE CURRENT PROPERTY IS A RADIO TOWER. AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS FOR AN EXTENSION OF R. 4 FOR MORE DENSE MULTIFAMILY INFIELD DEVELOPMENTS. THE TOWER TO THE RIGHT IS ON ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I BLUE EVE THAT'S A CITY COMMUNICATIONS TOWER OR SOME OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TOWER.

THERE'S THE SMALLER TOWER. THAT'S PART OF THIS APPLICATION.

HERE IS THE END OF MARCH STREET. MARGE STREET IS A MIX OF SEKLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY UNITS RANGE TO TRI-PLEXES AND EVEN SOME SIX PLEXES, FOURPLEXES. UP AND DOWN THERE IT IS AN OLDER PART OF TOWN WHERE THE ORIGINAL R THREE DID ALLOW FOR SOME MORE

DENSITY THAN IT CURRENTLY DOES. >> THE DEPARTMENT COMMENTS.

GAS AND WATER SAYS SEWER UPGRADES WILL BE NEEDED.

THE STREET DEPARTMENT, AND WE DID RECEIVE DRAINAGE COMMENTS BUT THEY HAD NO CONCERNS AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM PROVIDED CAPACITY.

HISTORIC ESTIMATES WOULD PUT THIS AT 48 UNITS IN THE SOUTH CLARKSVILLE PLANNING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSIST WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN.

THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ESTABLISHED R. 4 TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE MULTIFAMILY USE THIS IS THE AREA.

AND NO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED WITH THIS REQUEST.

PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU, WILL TYNDALL. COUNCIL PERSON RED YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LOVE TO PUT ON FOR A

COMMENT AS WELL. >> THANK YOU.

>> GO AHEAD COUNCIL PERSON REDD. >> I WILL BE ABSTAINING ON THAT.

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>> SO NOTED. >> COUNCIL PERSON STREITMANN YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MR. TYNDALL I APOLOGIZE I AM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT AGAIN.

AND IF YOU NEED TO GET THIS VIA EMAIL, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT SAME AS BEFORE, YOU STATED 48 UNITS, CAN BE BUILT HERE, UTILIZING THE CURRENT ZONING. WHAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM UNITS

THAT CAN GO IN THERE? >> I WILL HAVE TO BREAK THAT NUMBER DOWN. REASON BEING YOU CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN ONE TRI-PLEX PER PROPERTY.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ESTIMATE HOW MANY YOU CAN GET.

TO GET THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, IT PLAYS THE DENSITY WOULD BE A LITTLE LESS. TWO QUESTION DID COME UP AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS 30.

SO YOU COULD DO 30 AS EXISTING OR WE SAID FOUR -- OR 48 WITH THE REZONING. THANK YOU, CAN YOU ALSOTY ME HOW IT PASSED? UNANIMOUSLY IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR -- I CAN FIND THAT ANSWER FOR MYSELF.

>> I CAN GET YOU THAT ANSWER. IF ANYTHING IT MAY HAVE HAD ONE MO VOTE. MR. TYNDALL, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE STREET SURVEY.

I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH MARCH STREET.

I GREW UP ON ELDER STREET, SO I WENT UP THE HILL ALL THE TIME TO PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS. AND I KNOW THAT STREET IS VERY NARROW, AND THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF PARAMEDICS AND HOUSES UP AND DOWN THAT STREET. AND DURING INCREMENT WEATHER IT IS BAD. SO IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN GET THE REPORT PROPOSED THE STREET DEPARTMENT BASED ON WHAT THEY

DID WITH THE SURVEY HERE? >> YES, WE CAN PROVIDE IT.

I WOULD ASK CHRIS TO GIVE IT TO YOU, IT IS THEIR REQUESTS REPORT. SO I AM SURE IT WILL BE IN YOUR

INBOXES TOMORROW. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WHICH IS MORE IN DEATH AND MORE INTENSE.

BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT MR. COWAN HAS THAT TO THE COUNCIL. I WILL ASK HIM EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. BECAUSE IT IS CONFUSING FOR ME.

>> OKAY. >> CORN PERSON SMITH YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> CAN YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU.

>> MAYBE I NEED TO TAKE THAT MASK OFF.

>> MAYBE. >> MR. TYNDALL THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. I DID GET SOME CALLS THAT WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS, IN OPPOSITION.

THE REASON THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION IS BECAUSE OF THE STREET IS NARROW. THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS.

FOR THE CHILDREN TO WALK IN. IT SEEMS LIKE TOO MANY UNITS FOR THAT NARROW STREET. WHEN I DROVE THE BUS, I COULD NOT TAKE IT DOWN MARTIN STREET BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TURN AROUND. IT WASN'T BIG ENOUGH.

AND ALSO I DON'T THINK THAT THE FIRE TRUCKS COULD GO DOWN THERE.

IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH TURN AROUND.

THE ROAD IS SO NARROW. SO THAT'S A PROBLEM THERE.

THIS WAS NO SIDEWALKS AND SERVICES -- I AM GOING TO SAY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE SCHOOL BUSS COULD NOT GO DOWN THERE. SO I HAD TO DROP THE KIDS OFF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AVENUE TO GET THEM HOME.

SO I JUST THINK IF WE CAN WIDEN THAT STREET.

WE CAN GO FOR IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON SMITH.

COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED?

>> YES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAG ON TO THE PREVIOUS TWO SPEAKERS. I ALSO DROVE THIS ROAD AND IT IS VERY NARROW, AND I SPOKE TO THE STREET'S DEPARTMENT AND WE AS A CITY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO WIDEN THAT ROAD.

WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL VEHICLES.

>> I THINK THIS IS TOO MANY HOUSES OR TOO MANY RESIDENTS ON THIS STREET. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN?

>> I AM JUST GOING TO TAG ON THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS.

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AND IT IS VERY NARROW. AND THE PERSON THAT CALLED ME, THEY DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT THEY ARE THE LAND LORD OVER THERE THAT HANDLE THAT PROPERTY. THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT IT IS -- THAT IT IS LIKE A DEAD END.

IT IS HARD TO TURN AROUND. THINGS LIKE THAT, AND YOU ARINGING A WHOLE ANOTHER 48 UNITS AND IT WAS A VERY HUGE CONCERN FOR OTHER THERE. AND THEN I GOT OTHER CALLS AND THINGS. SO DEFINITELY WE NEED TO LOOK AT

THAT TRAFFIC STURDY. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER --

>> COUNCIL PERSON LITTLE. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO PIGGY BACK OVER WHAT PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE SAID.

I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO THAT ROAD AND THEIR HOUSE PLENTY OF TIMES AND IT IS -- BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT PROPERTY, AND IT IS JUST LIKE WHAT THEY SAID, ONLY ONE CAR OR ONE VEHICLE CAN PASS AT A TIME. THERE SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

I FEEL LIKE THE ROADS CAN HANDLE BIG BUILDING OVER THERE.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON LITTLE.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING THIS

ORDINANCE? >> HEARING NONE SEEING NONE, MR?

>> THAT COMPLETES IT. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE CONSENT

[3) CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA, MADAME CLERK? >> ORDINANCE 73, SECOND READING.

AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO MEMBERSHIP OF STANDING COMMITTEES. ORDINANCE 75-2020-21, SECOND READING. AMENDING THE FY. 21 HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET TO INCLUDE THE 2021 COMMUNITY HOUSING PARTNERSHIP OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

ORDINANCE 76, 2020-21, SECOND READING.

AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE. APPLICATION OF OSCAR LEE HEARN, ERIC HUNNICUTT AGENT. FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF CROSSLAND AVENUE EAST OF RIDICULOUSLY STREET. AND NORTH AND SOUTH OF WEST HIGH STREET FROM M ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AND R THREE, THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, TO C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 77, SECOND READING.

AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE. APPLICATION OF LUKE BAGGETT, SID HEDRICK AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BEECHWOOD DRIVE AND BEECH DRIVE.

FROM R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R.

2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDINANCE 79, 2020-21, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE F Y 20101 OPERATING BUDGET FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS.

TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM THE ATHLETIC COMPLEX CAPITOL PROJECT TO THE REGIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER.

ADOPTION OF MINUTES MARCH 4TH. THANK YOU, MADAME CLERK, ANY MEMBER WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL BE PULLING ON THE 77, THAT STREET IS ALSO THE ONE THAT I SPOKE ABOUT.

IN ANYWAY IN OPPOSITION IS. IT IS SMALLER THAN MARTIN STREET. AS I SAID, THERE WAS RAVINES DOWN ON THE SIDE. IT IS A ONE CAR STREET.

I JUST WANT TO PULL FOR THAT REGULAR SESSION WHEN WE COME BACK AND DISCUSS THIS FURTHER TO MAKE SURE WE REALLY WANT TO VOTE TO HAVE NEW HOMES BUILT ON THIS STREET.

IT IS A SMALLER, AS I SAID, THAN MARTIN STREET.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON SMITH. OWN ERR MEMBER WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON CONSENT AGENDA? HEARING NONE, WE NOW READY FOR

[4) FINANCE COMMITTEE]

RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE HAD SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ON OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE THIS PAST WEEK. ORDINANCE 74-2020-21, 1ST READING. AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS TO ADD FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE JUNE TEEN-TH HOLIDAY, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE DID VOTE FOR APPROVAL ON THAT.

THIS WAS THE JUNE TEEN-TH HOLIDAY THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED ON TWO READINGS BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND WE VOTED ON IN ORDER TO SUPPORT OUR DEPARTMENT TO COVER THEIR FUNDING FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR IN REGARD TO THE JUNE

TEEN-TH HOLIDAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING

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ORDINANCE 74? >> HEARING NONE, PLEASE PROCEED.

>> ORDINANCE 81-2020-21, 1ST READING.

AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 21 HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET FOR CARES ACT PART 1 PROGRAM FUNDING.

FINANCE COMMITTEE DID APPROVE THIS AS WELL.

ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 81? THREE SEEING NONE HEARING NONE. PLEASE PROCEED.

AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 21 HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET FOR CARES ACT ROUND THREE PROGRAM FUNDS.

THIS WAS ALSO APPROVED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING ORDINANCE 82? HABING NONE, SEEING NONE, PLEASE PROCEED.

>> THE FOURTH ITEM WAS RESOLUTION 62-2020-21, AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF CLACKSVILLE POLICE TEMPERATURE AND THE TBI RELATIVE TO THE TBI CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION TASK FORCE. FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED FOR

APPROVAL ON THIS. >> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING RESOLUTION 62? HEARING NONE SEEING NONE. PROCEED PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR THAT COVERS ALL THE ITEMS IN OUR FINANCE

COMMITTEE. >> ALL RIGHT, HOLD ON JUST ONE MOMENT. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.

>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE RESOLUTION IN GENERAL, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. SO IT HAS TO BE READ TWICE? WHEN IT GOES THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE?

>> IF IT IS AN ORDINANCE IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON TWICE.

TWO READINGS THROUGH THE COUNCIL.

IT GOES THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ONCE.

>> SO WHEN IT COMES -- WHEN IT IS READ ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, IT WAS ALREADY READ ON A FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THAT MEANS WE WILL VOTE ON IT.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU S AND WHETHER A COMMITTEE VOTES TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE IT DOESN'T STOP IT FROM COMING TO THE COUNCIL.

>> YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO READ IT TWICE. RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY.

COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN WAS THAT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR

REPORT? >> YES, SIR, IT WAS.

[5) GAS & WATER COMMITTEE]

CHAIRPERSON RODE. >> WE HAVE TWO AGREEMENTS I WILL START WITH THE RED LEWIS 63. AUTHORIZING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OF THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR ACCEPTANCE OF BIO SOLIDS FROM THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND THE DETAILS OF THE AGREEMENT IS IN YOUR PACKET.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, MARK IS OTHER THERE WAVING AT ME

AND HE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> THANK YOU.

CHAIRPERSON REDD ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING A

RESOLUTION 63? >> HEARING NONE.

>> OKAY. >> THE SECOND RESOLUTION 64 AUTHORIZING INTERLOS CALL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GUTHRIE KENTUCKY FOR COOPERATIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE NATURAL GAS DISTRICT. AND THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL. UNDER THE RESOLUTION IN APPENDIX A FOR READING FOR DETAILS FOR THURSDAY.

AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW DETAILS IT ISN'T IN THERE.

HE IS HERE TO ANSWER THOSE AS QUESTION.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU CHAIRPERSON RED.

COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I WAS IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS RESOLUTION RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO REALLY HELP OUR CITY. AND CONNECT US WITH KENTUCKY.

I ASK THAT YOU READ THIS AND KNOW THAT WILL GIVE US BREAKS ON WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING GAS INTO OUR CITY, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO AT THAT STATE LEVEL ANY MORE TO SWITCH IT OVER TO GET THAT GAS. SO THIS IS A REALLY GREAT

RESOLUTION? >> THANK YOU FOR THE AFFIRMATION. YEAH, IT WILL GIVE US A TRUE REDUNDANT SOURCE. SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO OUR PRIMARY SOURCE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON AND HEAT ON. AND OUR INDUSTRIES WORKING.

SO GOOD POINT. COUNCIL PERSON REDD?

>> THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

[6) HOUSING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]

CHAIRPERSON SMITH. >> I HAVE A REPORT FOR YOU ON APRIL THE AT OUR REGULAR SESSION.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE NOW READY FOR PARKS

[7) PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE]

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HAVE A FULL REPORT FOR YOU AND THE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.

>> THANK YOU. CHAIRPERSON RICHMOND.

[8) PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]

CHAIRPERSON GARRETT. >> I AM REPORTING NEXT WEEK, OR

THURSDAY. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A T.S.G. REPORT NEXT

[9) STREETS-GARAGE-TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE]

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THURSDAY. >> CHAIRPERSON SMITH, WE ARE NOW

[10) ITEMS POSTPONED]

AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS YOU HAVE HEARD ME I HAVE SPOKED ON THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND THE IMPORTANCE OF US BEING ABLE TO KEEP THIS INTACT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AS WELL AS FOR THOSE COMING TO THE AREA.

OBVIOUSLY WITH SAFETY BEING A BIG FACTOR.

WHICH IS WHY THE PROPERTY WOULD BE INSPECTED BY BUILDING AND CODES AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF BOTH TOURISTS COMING IN AND THEN IN REGARD TO FIRE INSPECTION, AND LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLOWED TO STAY OVERNIGHT OR BE LISTED AS STAYING OVERNIGHT. THAT'S ALSO A PROTECTION FOR OUR CITIZENS AS WELL. OF COURSE WE HAVE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTED A COMPANY TO HELP US TRACK DOWN OUR SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT ARE LOCATED HERE.

THEY HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN. AND CONFIRMED THAT WE HAVE 128.

SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THE AREA. ONE THIN TO POINT OUT WITH THAT IS TRYING TO DO A CALCULATION OF COST OR INCOME THAT WE WOULD HAVE FROM THAT AS FAR AS THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX.

TWO HOTEL MOTEL TAX. THE STATE SALES TAX.

GIVING AN ESTIMATE IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT BEING ABLE TO GET -- COLLECT FEES THAT WE POSSIBLY HAVEN'T BEEN COLLECTED FOR MAYBE AN ESTIMATE OF 75 UNITS. WE COULD BE LOOKING AT BRINGING IN A REVENUE OF CLOSE TO $130,000 THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE LOVING ON THE TABLE. THE COMPANY THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH, THEY HAVE SENT OUT THE LETTERS TO OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL OPERATORS IN THE AREA TO NOTIFY THEM THAT THEY NEED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. SO THAT NOW THE PROCESS WILL BE THEM GETTING IN TOUCH WITH US. AND A VERIFICATION PROCESS OF KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE TO FALL UNDER THE ORDINANCE OR NOT. THAT WILL BE DEPEND UPON WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEIR PROPER PERMITS AS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GET. THAT THEY ARE PAYING THEIR TAX SIX MONTH PRIOR TO THE ENACTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO THERE VERY WELL COULD BE SOME MOTEL HOTEL TAXES THAT WE ARE LEAVING ON THE TABLE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THIS. I HAVE DIFFERENT RESIDENTS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DIFFERENT ARTICLES ABOUT IT WHERE SOME RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKE ON IT.

INCLUDING THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SAT IN THIS SEAT.

SPOKE ABOUT THE NEED FOR US TO KEEP THAT ON THE BOOKS.

AND ANOTHER RESIDENT WHOSE MOTHER IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL OPERATOR IN ANOTHER AREA, HE ALSO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF US KEEPING IT. THEN THERE WAS A LETTER TO THE EDITOR THAT WAS JUST IN THE PAPER LAST WEEK, THAT WAS AND YOU WILL FORGIVE ME JUMPING AROUND.

I AM NOT SURE IF THIS WAS SEEN, BUT FORMER FORT CAMPBELL LEADER SPEAKS OUT AGAINST SHORE TERM RENTALS.

AND HAD INVOLVEMENT WITH OTHER ARMY AND NAVY PRODUCTS THE CITY SHOULD KEEP REGULATIONS IN PLACE FOR ALL THE OBVIOUS REASONS.

AS STATED BY THOSE IN FAVOR OF THESE REGULATIONS.

WITHOUT OVERSIGHT, THIS BECOME AS MESS.

THE CITY WILL HAVE NO DATA FOR TOURISM NUMBERS NOR THE ABILITY TONE SURE RENTALS ARE CLEAN AND SAFE.

AND FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, HE DID STATE THAT NOT SURE THE FEE STRUCTURE IS APPROPRIATE. MAY CONSIDER A REVIEW.

I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.

SO I DO WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE THAT WE TO HAVE RESIDENT THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY THAT DO WANT US TO KEEP THIS ON THE BOOKS. AND AS I HAVE SATED BEFORE, ONCE WE TAKE IT OFF THEN IT OPENS IT BACK UP, AND EVERYBODY THAT HAS BEEN OPERATING ARE THEN GRANDFATHERED BACK IN UNTIL IF OR WHEN WE END UP PUTTING THAT PACK ON.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL PORN BUTLER.

AM I MISTAKEN AS THE SPONSOR OTHIS ORIGINALLY I SHOULD HAVE BEEN AFFORDED THE RIGHT TO SPEAK FIRST?

>> IF THAT'S DIRECTED TO ME I DIDN'T SEE YOUR NAME LISTED UNDER ITEMS POSTPONED? SO I WILL -- THE CHAIR WILL TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER.

>> THAT SAID. THIS REPEAL WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS, ORDINANCE 63 IS A FULL REPEAL OF CHAPTER THREE, RELATING TO SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND IT HAS SURVIVED THREE VOTES ALREADY. AND IT WAS POSTPONED AGAIN LAST MONTH. DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON, AND SINCE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT BACK UP, THE PUBLIC HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN 75% IN SUPPORT OF REPEALING THIS.

WE MIGHT THE RIGHT DECISION THE FIRST READING AND I AM ASKING

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PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE NOT DEBATABLE.

THIS LAW EFFECTS OUR MILITARY COMMUNITY.

THE REGISTRATION SHOW THE LEGISLATION HAS NOT BEEN EFFECTIVE. AND HAS WASTED TAXPAYER MONEY.

BUT MOST OF ALL WE ARE STILL REPRESENTATIVES AND ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES A 50/50 SPLIT LEAVES US TO VOTE OUR OWN CONSCIOUS THE PEOPLE ARE VERY CLEAR ON THIS ISSUE.

THEY DON'T WANT IT. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE AMENDMENT, AND VOTE YES ON THE REPEAL. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL PERSON REDD YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DID HAVE ONE CALL FROM A CONSTITUENT THAT HAS HAD MAJOR PROBLEMS FROM A SHORT TERM RENTAL THAT WAS NEXT TO HIS HOUSE.

AND THAT HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THERE AND HE SAID THEY BACKED INTO A PART OF HIS MAILBOX AND A FENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. EVIDENTLY THIS PARTICULAR SHORT TERM RENTAL WAS NOT JUST SHORT TERM, IT WAS MORE OF A SHORT TERM PARTY RENTAL. I GUESS YOU CAN SAY.

AND HE ASKED MANY ETO RECONSIDER IT.

AND I TOLD HIM I WOULD. I TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS.

I GUESS -- I NOTICE THAT WHAT I HAVE -- I GUESS COUNCIL LOOKED AT THIS AS WELL. BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WAS THERE NOT A MOTION TO REPEAL RATHER THAN JUST LEAN EVERYTHING OUT. BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE

WHOLE. >> THAT'S KIND OF JUST CURIOSITY RATHER THAN -- BUT IT IS THE WHOLE THING HAS BEEN GUTTED AND IT'S ONLY BEEN THIS A YEAR. AND -- I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AND THAT IS WHEN WE DID MAKE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, IT WASN'T A MOTION TO COMMIT TO FINANCE OR SOME COMMITTEE TO LOG AT IT.

IT WAS JUST A STRAIGHT POSTPONEMENT.

BUT IN ANY CASE, HASHED OUT -- AND THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IS JUST -- THAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORTH HERE, IS -- IT IS JUST UNGOING THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE. IT IS AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL THE

STR ORDINANCE. >> AND THIS IS A WAY SCRATCH

THROUGH EVERYTHING. >> YEAH.

>> JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT WOULD BE GOING AWAY.

>> RIGHT. >> IF THE REPEAL PASSES.

>> OKAY, GREAT. BUT IT IS THE SAME THING AS REPEALING THE WHOLE THING THEN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD BE LEFT. IT WOULD BE -- NO THEN PROVISIONS IN HERE TO I GUESS HELP MY CONSTITUENTS THAT WAS THERE BEFORE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON REDD. >> YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE WOULD BE -- IF THE REPEAL PASS THERE IS WILL BE NO STR ORDINANCE ON

THE BOOKS AT ALL. >> YOU LOVE THAT BELL DON'T YOU S COMES PERSON STREITMANN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THE SECOND

TIME. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IN REFERENCE TO THE MOST IMMEDIATE PREVIOUS SPEAKER ONE OF THE REASONS THIS WAS EVEN FIRST LOOKED AT IS IN REGARDS TO SHORT TERM -- UTILIZED FOR THE POINT OF PARTY HOUSES.

AND THAT IT CAN FROM REPEATEDLY RENTED BY DIFFERENT USERS AND THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN BE DONE.

>> WITH IT IS USED FOR A BACHELOR PARTY OR A HOUSE PARTY, OR LOCALS THAT MAY BE WANTING TO UTILIZE IT FOR THAT.

WE WERE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS ESPECIALLY DURING HOME COMING WEEKEND. THAT WHERE ARE CREATED A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE HAVING LARGE PARTIES, LEAVING TRASH AROUND. UNSAVORY ACTS OCCURRING.

WHICH THE CITIZENS AROUND THEM WERE HAVING TO DEAL WITH.

TWO PARKING PROPERTIES ALL THOSE THINS.

THIS WENT THROUGH TWO COMMITTEES.

IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND ALSO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. IT'S BEEN STATED THIS LIMITS THEM FROM DOING WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

THAT NO WAY STOPS THEM IN BEING ABLE TO USE IT AS A SHORT TERM

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AND SO THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF THAT COMES INTO.

AND TO SAY THIS PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN WORKING WE NOW HAVE SEVEN TEEN PROPERTIES MANY THE PROCESS OF THIS.

AND SO FAR, PRIOR TO CONTRACTING WITH THE COMPANY THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH, IT'S BEEN BASED ON AN HONOR SYSTEM.

PEOPLE WERE -- HAD TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEMES TO COME FORWARD. AND WE HAVE HAD THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR 17 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE COME FORWARD AND DONE THAT.

SO TO SAY IT HASN'T WORKED I THINK WOULD BE AN IT CORRECT STATEMENT. IT IS ONE THAT'S BEEN WORKING ALONG AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE UPON NOW THAT WE HAVE STARTING WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY.

AND WE CAN REALLY LOOK AT THOSE 128 PROPERTIES THE KNOW WHO NEEDS TO FALL UNDERNEATH THIS ORDINANCE.

AS WELL AS ANY ADDITIONAL. THIS IS NOT -- ALTHOUGH WE HAVE 128 NOW, THIS IS A GROWING MARKET.

THE SHORT TERM RENTAL MARKET. THAT IS SOME OF THE THINGS I HEARD FROM SOME OF THE CURRENT SHORT TERM RENTAL OPERATORS.

IS THAT THEY GENERALLY FIND IT IS A PROFITABLE BUSINESS, AND THEY IN TURN CHOOSE TO PURCHASE MORE PROPERTY.

IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT OR BUILD MORE FOR THAT.

SO IT IS ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, THE WE CAN ALSO SEE THAT ON THE NATIONAL MARKET. THAT MORE AND MORE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE BEING OPERATED. THAT'S THE NEW DIRECTION TO BE ABLE TO GO AND STAY. AND THIS JUST HELPS WORK IN REGARD TO TOURISM DOLLARS, THE SAFETY OF IT.

MAKING SURE IT IS THE SAME AS HOTEL WHOSE ARE INSPECTED REGULARLY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU.

>> DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNCIL

PERSON LITTLE. >> THANK YOU.

TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS AND THE JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND SAID. SO I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE, AND ABOUT PEOPLE -- THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TALKED TO ME AT LEAST, SAY THEY DON'T WANT IT TO GO AWAY.

AND I CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE SAFETY ASPECT. SAND READING THROUGH IT AND I WS OFFERING AN AMENDMENT. THAT'S WHY I POSTPONED TO EXPLAIN SOME THINGS IN IT. READING THROUGH IT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID A LOT OF IT THEY SAID THEY FELT WAS TOO MUCH, BUT THEY WANTED TO BE PROTECTED AGAINST SOME THINGS.

SO I THINK IT IS BETTER TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE, EVEN IF -- MY AMENDMENT FAILS TO GO THROUGH -- IT IS BET TORE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAN HAVE ANOTHER CRACK AT KNOCKING IT DOWN SO THESE KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, AND THEN WE CAN WORK TOWARD GETTING SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN MEET HALF WAY.

AND SOME CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE AGAINST AND IT STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND JUST MAKE SURE TO WORK IT OUT SO IT IS EQUITABLE FOR

EVERYBODY. >> THANK YOU.

>> JUST WHEN WAS ORDINANCE 63 ADOPTED?

WAS THAT LAST YEAR? >> OCTOBER OF 2020.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE?

ON ORDINANCE 63? >> HEARING NONE SEEING NONE WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM TWO, UNDER ITEMS POSTPONED.

RESOLUTION 59. POSTPONED FROM MARCH 4TH.

REQUESTING THE TENNESSEE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL CHARTER OF THE STILL ACCORDING TO EXHIBIT A.

NOW I AM CONFUSED. THAT COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS?

OR COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT? >> COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT HAD THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, AND I PUT IN AMENDMENTS.

>> OKAY. >> SO WE'LL COME TO YOU COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS. AND THEN ANYONE ELSE.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK -- THE ORIGINAL PERSON THAT SUBMITTED THIS ORDINANCE, COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT.

WE VOTED TO CREATE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE CHANGES TO THE CHARTER. SO I THINK WE RESOLUTION.

>> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS WE WOULDN'T WITHDRAW -- WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. WELL, NOW HANG ON.

WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW IT WITHOUT OBJECTION.

AN THURSDAY'S MEETING. >> OBJECTION FROM WHOM MAYOR?

>> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS GO AHEAD.

>> NO, I JUST SAID OBJECTION FROM WHOM?

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>> FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE PROCEDURE FOR ASKING FOR

THAT? >> OKAY, MR. BAKER.

>> THE CHAIR CAN ALWAYS SEEK TO TAKE ACTION PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE ACTION AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTION.

IF THERE'S NOT THAN THE COUNCIL BASICALLY ACQUIESCES TO IT.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO SAY WELL I OBJECT, THEN LIT HAVE TO BE DISPOSED OF THROUGH PARLIAMENTARY MEANS.

WE'VE ALWAYS TAKEN THAT POSITION.

I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CAVEAT.

AND THAT IS THAT THE PUBLIC, ONCE SOMETHING IS PUT ON THE EXECUTIVE OR REGULAR SESSION AGENDA, THE PUBLIC EXPECTS IT TO BE THERE AND TO BE DISPOSED OF BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IF THE CHAIR SAYS OKAY, THE SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION DESIRES TO WITHDRAW IT, AND THERE'S NO SEK. AND NOBODY OBJECTS TO THEM WITHDRAWING IT, THEN THAT'S A RULING THAT THE CHAIR CAN MAKE.

IN MY VIEW. >> DOES THAT HELP COUNCIL PERSON

REYNOLDS? >> SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT THAT WOULD NOT OBJECT?

>> ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL CAN OBJECT AND IF ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL OBJECTS THEN THE ONLY -- THEN THE ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION WHATEVER THE LEGISLATION IS CAN ONLY BE DISPOSED OF THROUGH PARLIAMENTARY MEANS. WHICH MEANS SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE A MOTION. PRESUMABLY COUNCILMAN GARRETT WOODS. IF THERE'S NO SECOND IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF DISPOSING OF IT. IF NO COUNCIL MEMBER MAKE AS SECOND IT JUST DIES. THE OTHER THING IS YOU CAN POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY. OR YOU CAN VOTE IT DOWN.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT IS

CONSIDERING? >> COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT TO YOU? DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS?

>> SURE. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU. SO IN TERMS OF WHAT I AM CONSIDERING IS I WAS OVER TO THE SUGGESTION OF US DOING A MEETING AS A WHOLE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE TO ADDRESS ANY KIND OF DIVE THROUGH. I WAS HOPING BY NOW WE WOULD HAVE HAD A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION PUT OUT THERE SO WE COULD START CHIPPING AWAY AT THIS THING, AND COMING UP WITH A FINAL PRODUCT FOR US TO VOTE ON. THAT HASN'T OCCURRED JUST YET.

I AM HESITANT TO TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA, UNTIL WE HAVE MADE MORE TRACTION ON THIS COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE.

OR CONDUCTED A FEW SPECIAL SESSIONS TO ADDRESS THE CHARTER

REVISES. >> WELL, I COULD INVITE THE COUNCIL TOGETHER. BECAUSE THE CHARTER AS YOU KNOW, ALL OF US KNOW IT IS PRETTY HENT THINK IN DETAIL.

>> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS. >> COULD I SEND YOU A SUGGESTED SCHEDULE OF CHAPTERS ONE THROUGH FOUR, WHATEVER BLAH BLAH BLAH.

AND THEN IF YOU CALL THE COMMITTEE AND PEOPLE DON'T -- ARE NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED RIGHT? THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE NECESSARILY REQUIRED MEETING?

>> WELL, A SPECIAL SESSION IS A CALLED FORMAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WE HAVE HAD BEFORE.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE EXCUSED IF YOU WERE NOT PRESENT.

DUE TO ILLNESS OR SOMETHING ELSE.

>> SO WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THE WAY FORWARD?

>> WELL, I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO CALLING A COMMITTEE -- THE COUNCIL TOGETHER AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE FACING BUDGET PREPARATIONS SEASON WHICH IS GOING TO PRESS US TO ALSO DO THE BUDGET AS WELL AS THE CHARTER REVIEW AND

[01:35:03]

BECAUSE IT IS A VERY METICULOUS PROCESS.

>> WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.

>> COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE PERHAPS POSTPONING IT UNTIL JULY -- I MEAN UNTIL AUGUST? AFTER THE BUDGET IS DONE? OR -- THE BUDGET IS DONE IN JUNE. SO THEN JULY FOR OUR FIRST

MEETING? >> WE HOPE TO BUDGET WILL BE APPROVED ON SECOND READING BY THE END OF JUNE.

DID YOU WISH TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION?

>> I WILL TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

BUT -- LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRACTION AS FAR AS THIS COMING TOGETHER AS A WHOLE TO STUDY IT AND MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHARTER REVISIONS. SO AT THIS TIME, I AM A LITTLE HESITANT OF MAKING THAT COMMITMENT TO POSTPONE IT OR KILL WHAT IS GOING ON UNTIL I SEE THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING TOWARDS MAKING THE CHAINS AND I CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT THERE'S OTHER MAYBE PRIORITIES AND THINGS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO WORK ON. AND SO JUST TO KEEP IT BEFORE US WHERE I AM AT RIGHT NOW IS JUST MANE GAINING IT ON THE AGENDA.

>> COUNCIL PERSON REMEMBER REYN. >> HOW MANY TIMES CAN WE POSTPONE A POSTPONEMENT? CAN WE POSTPONE IT ONE MORE

TIME. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT. PERHAPS COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO POSTPONE IT ONCE MORE UNTIL NEXT MONTH? NOT TAKE IT OFF BUT POSTPONE IT BY A MONTH?

>> IS THAT A QUESTION OR DO YOU WANT HIM TO CONSIDER THAT? I THINK HE SAID HE WOULD TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT.

>> FOR NEXT WEEK. >> ALL RIGHT, THIS WEEK.

[LAUGHTER] I KNOW.

I AM CONFUSE TODAY IS THAT ALL. >> YES THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> COUNCIL PERSON RED. >> I THOUGHT WE WENT OVER THIS OR SOMETHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE CHAPTER CHANGE AT A MEETING

DIDN'T WE? >> WE DID.

>> I WAS JUST -- MAYBE I WAS THINKING OF -- AND LANCE, WHEN I CHAIRED THE CHARTER REVISION SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND YOU WERE ON THERE, HOW LONG DID WE GO THROUGH THAT? WHENEVER WE HAD THAT COMMITTEE? AND WE HAD CIVILIANS ON THE COMMITTEE, JUST TO HAVE ABIDEA. AND THE REASONS WHY WE DID HAVE SOME CIVILIANS AND I THINK I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE, IS BECAUSE IN THE WHOLE CHART THEY ARE'S A LOT OF REGULATIONS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DEVELOPERS AND WITH OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS AND LIQUOR STORES AND THIS AND THAT. AND -- BUT HAVES JUST SAYING

THAT WAS A LONG TIME, WASN'T IT? >> HOLD THAT THOUGHT.

>> AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EXACT DATE.

IT SEEMED LIKE A YEAR OR SO. >> TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION, THERE'S BEEN TWO DIFFERENT CHARTER REVISION COMMISSIONS COMMITTEES THAT WERE FORMED.

THE FIRST ONE FORMED AND WE DID A CHARTER.

IT PASSED ON THE FRONT END IT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THEY REJECTED IT.

AND THEN ANOTHER COMMITTEE WAS FORMED.

A YEAR OR TWO LATER, MAYBE AND THEN THAT COMMISSION RECOMMENDED SOME CHANGES TO THE CHARTERS AND WHAT I RECALL.

AND EVENTUALLY IT PASSED AND THEN EVENTUALLY IT PASSED ON THE FRONT END OF CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN IT PASSED THE STATE LEGISLATURE, AND THEN CAME BACK AND PASSED ON THE BACK END.

BOTH TIMES THE PROCESS TOOK MONTHS.

AND ONE TIME I RECALL IT MAY HAVE BEEN OVER A YEAR.

IT WAS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE REVISION TO THE WHOLE CHARTER THOUGH. AND I DON'T KNOW.

IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME MEMBERS ARE WANTING TO LOCK AT EVERYTHING.

BUT TO REALLY DO IT JUSTICE. AND TO STUDY IT.

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YOU ARE LOOKING AT AT LEAST THREE TO FOUR MONTHS PROCESS.

AND THESE MEETING WERE SEVERAL HOURS.

>> YES. >> EACH MEETING WAS TWO OR

THREE, HOURS LONG. >> YES.

>> THAT I RECALL. >> I GOT ONE MORE REAL QUICK QUESTION. ON A CHARTER REVISION COMMITTEE RESOLUTION VOTE, OF COURSE THAT TAKES TO THIRD MASS JORDY HERE WITH THE COUNCIL. IS THAT OR CAN THAT ALSO BE SUBJECT TO A VETO PROPOSED THE MAYOR OR IS THAT A VOTE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF IT IT IS JUST A PASS FAIL?

>> I THINK IT IS NOT SUBJECT. BECAUSE IT IS A RESOLUTION.

BUT I WILL NEED TO RESEARCH THAT TO MAKE SURE I AM CORRECT ON THAT. ON THE BACK END I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT IS A RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE.

>> VETO ONLY APPLIES TO ORDINANCE.

WE KNOW THAT. BUT I THINK IT ISN'T FROM END VOTE, AND MAYBE THE BACK END VOTE IS A RESOLUTION.

I BELIEVE. SO A VETO POWER DOES NOT APPLY.

AND TWO-THIRDS WHEN IT COMES BACK.

COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> SO MY QUESTION IS WE DID DO A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THAT THE MAYOR DOES, AND IT DID PASS. DOES A SPECIAL MEETING -- THAT'S BEEN DONE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF MR. BAKER CAN ANSWER THAT FOR ME. WHAT DOES THAT COMPEL TO HAPPEN? WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO GET THAT MEETING CALLED, OR THOSE MEETING CALLED BUT NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WE MAY NOT BE

ABLE TO UNTIL JULY. >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

MY RECOLLECTION, I HAD TO GO BACK AND READ IT, IS THAT IT IS A REQUEST THAT THE MAYOR CALL THE CITY COUNCIL AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR THE PURPOSE OF STUDYING IT.

I AM NOT SURE IT IS LEGALLY BINDING.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SPECIFIED TIME.

MY RECOLLECTION OF THE DISCUSSION WAS WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS PROPOSED IT, WAS THAT IT WOULD BE AFTER THE BUDGET. IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO TO IT EARLIER, IF THE CITY MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT EARLIER, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TAKE ONE THE MAYOR.

YOU CAN ASK HIM TO CALL IT EARLIER.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.

>> SO IF WE WANTED TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE BUDGET, THEN AT THIS POINT WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY SEVEN OF US WOULD HAVE TO SAY, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS STARTED?

>> YES. UNLESS THE MAYOR IS WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL IT. AND I NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK THAT THE RESOLUTION. HE MAY BE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO DO IT. BUT I AM NOT CERTAIN OF THAT.

BECAUSE MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT IT WAS SIMPLY A REQUEST OF THE MAYOR. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, THAT AS WE -- IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EMAILS THAT HAVE BEEN FLYING THE LAST WEEK OR TWO ABOUT HOW WE CALL SPECIAL CALL MEETING AND STUFF. IT IS THE CHARTER I BELIEVE THAT THE MAYOR CAN CALL SPECIAL CALL MEETING.

SEVEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN ALSO DO IT.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT. BASICALLY ONE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL WITHOUT BREAKING THE SUNSHINE LAW, AND JUST SAY I WOULD LIKE TO CALL SPECIAL CALLED SESSION ABOUT SUCH AND SUCH. ABOUT THE CHARTER REVISIONS FOR EXAMPLE. AND YOU CAN SEND IT SO MS. SKINNER, COPY ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THEN SHE WOULD SEE OR INVITE ABE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WANT TO JOIN IN THAT REQUEST. AND IF SEVEN TOTAL JOIN IN THAT, THEN SHE WOULD ISSUE A NOTICE OF A SPECIAL CALLED SPECIAL SESSION. AND THE MAYOR CAN'T STOP THAT.

>> CAN SEVEN OF US JUST SAY TONIGHT WE WANT TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS TONE?

>> NO. I THINK YOU HAVE TO LET THE CLERK KNOW IF YOU -- IT ISN'T ON THE AGENERAL THAT IS THE PROBLEM. SO YOU CAN'T TAKE A VOTE ON IT.

>> NOT A VOTE REALLY, JUST SEVEN PEOPLE TELLING SYLVIA WE WANT A

SPECIAL SESSION. >> WELL, IT MIGHT WORK THAT WAY.

THE CHARTER IS SILENT ABOUT THE ACTUAL PROCESS.

IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY. I SUPPOSE IF SEVEN OF YOU JUST ANNOUNCED YOU WANTED TO DO IT, SHE COULD TAKE NOTE OF THAT I SUPPOSE. WE HAVE NEVER DONE IT THAT WAY.

>> MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO GET ON THE LIST.

>> I'D LIKE TO BE PUT ON THE LIST.

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TO GO AHEAD. >> NO I MEAN I WANT TO SPEAK.

>> I AM TELLING YOU NOW SYLVIA I WANT YOU ON THE LIST.

>> JUST FROM A RECORDKEEPING STANDPOINT, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU TO JUST SIMPLY SEND HER AN EMAIL.

>> PLEASE. >> SO THAT SHE HAS A RECORD OF WHO IS REQUESTED IT. AND EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT DESIRES TO CAN JUST SIMPLY WEIGH IN ON WHETHER THEY WANT TO HAVE

ONE OR NOT. >> COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU

STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. >> I AM GOOD.

>> COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED?

>> I HAVE A COMMENT THAT GOES WITH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS AND THEN I HAVE A SUGGESTION.

MR. BAKER DID YOU WANT TO. >> I JUST WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK. MS. SKINNER REMINDED ME WHENEVER YOU SENT THAT REQUEST IN, WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DESIGNATE THE DATE AND TIME THAT YOU WANT TO DO IT. AND WHAT THE SUBJECT MATTER IS.

BUT DO NOT WEIGH IN ABOUT OH I WANT TO CALL THE -- ABOUT CHARTER REVISIONS BECAUSE I WANT TO DO THIS OR THAT.

TONIGHT BREAK THE SUNSHINE LAW. BUT I THINK IT IS PERFECTLY OKAY TO SAY WHAT THE SUBJECT MATTER IS.

BUT WE NEED -- SHE NEED AS DATE AND TIME.

>> COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER. >> SO MY COMMENT ON THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS AND I GUESS IT GOES INTO OTHER PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS FROM OTHER MEETING. SO WE HAVE SEVEN NEW CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT WE HAVE SOME ISSUES FIGURING OUT HOW THIS ALL WORKS.

AND JUST LIKE THERE IS SOME CRITICISMS OF HOW WE DO THINGS COMING IN EARLY, OR COMING IN NEW ON THE SAME CEDAR STREET TOEN I HEAR A LOT OF WELL THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. AND THIS IS HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT SOMETIMES THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN THAT IT IS THE BEST WAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

IN REGARD TO THIS IN SPECIFIC, I THINK THAT -- SO WE HAVE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS. THERE'S -- SIX, EIGHT AMENDMENTS I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THEM, WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THEM AT SOME LENGTH ALREADY. I AM THE KIND OF PERSON THAT WANTS TO TAKE THE CHARTER AND REDO THE WHOLE THING, THE ONE FELT SWOOP, OR AS A WHOLE. BUT THE FACT IS WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS, I BELIEVE THAT PUT IN THESE AMENDMENTS FOR THE CHARTER. AND ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT DID THAT HAS KIND OF GIVEN THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO PULL THIS OFF RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK LET'S GO AHEAD, LET'S VOTE ON WHAT WE HAVE AN ENTIRE -- NOT AMENDMENT, THE EVIDENCE OR WHATEVER IT IS CALLED. WITH ALL OF THESE AMENDING THES ALL IN THE SAME PAPER, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DISPOSITION THOSE, AND THEN WE CAN START THINKING AFTER BUDGETING ABOUT DOING A WHOLE OVERHAUL. BUT I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT THE TIME AND EFFORT INTO MAKING THE AMENDING THES THAT THEY HAVE TO THE CHARTER SO FAR, THEY DESERVE TO BE HEARD.

AND WE CAN DISPOSITION WHAT WE ALREADY IN FRONT OF US.

THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THIS. IF SOMEONE SAYS THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OFF LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE EVER OF IT.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OVERHAULING THE CHARTER WITH YOU. UP THAT.

YOU. >> THANK YOU.

AGAIN. >> DON'T FORGET MAYOR I AM

WAITING. >> I HAVE YOU ON THE LIST.

>> SORRY S WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE MAYOR TO BRING THIS TO LOOK AT THE CHARTER.

EVERYBODY WAS TOLD WHATEVER AMENDMENT YOU HAD TO BRYN IT.

WE WENT OVER ALL OF THESE. SO I AM LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, COUNCIL LADY BUTLER, I THINK THAT --

>> DON'T CALL NAMES PLEASE. >> SORRY.

>> BUT I WAS JUST THINKING THAT -- IT IS ON THE AGENDA ALREADY. I DON'T SEE A REASON TO CALL SYLVIA EMAIL SYLVIA, BECAUSE IT IS HERE FOR THE ONES THAT TURNED IN SOMETHING THEY WANT TO CHANGE.

SO I SAY LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT.

IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA THURSDAY REGARDLESS.

UNLESS SOMEBODY -- UNLESS SOMEBODY REQUESTS TO NOT BRING IT UP THURSDAY. LIKE WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT, AND THEN THE MAYOR WILL SAY IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, IT IS BEING PULLED. JUST ONE OF YOU GOT TO OBJECT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. SO IT IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION

JUST FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REDD. NOW COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED? >> YES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE

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AND TO BREAK UP THE CHARTER INTO THREE OR FOUR PARTS AND HAVE THREE OR FOUR MEETING AND DO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CHAPTERS AT EACH MEETING. BECAUSE IT IS NOT DUE UNTIL OCTOBER. WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT AT THE LEGISLATION THIS YEAR.

SO THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO PUSH IT.

IF WE START NOW, WE CAN JUST KEEP PASSING BACK AND FORTH IF SOMEONE DOES LIKE THE VOTE, THEY CAN JUST BRING IT UP AGAIN.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO START THE PROCESS AND THE CONFERRINGS SPECIFICALLY NOT IN THIS TYPE OF MEETING BUT WHERE WE JUST FOCUS ON THE CHARTER. AND THE INTENT WAS TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE BUDGET PROCESS WAS COMPLETED.

WE COULD, PERHAPS, MAKE A SCHEDULE AND SUGGEST MEETING TIMES AND CHAPTERS AHEAD OF TIME.

AND GET THEM ANNOUNCED EARLY. SO THAT THEY ARE SOLIDIFIED MANY THE FUTURE. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS. COUNCIL PERSON SMITH YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK THAT EVERY COUNCIL PERSON WHO HAS SPOKEN HAS MADE SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE THIS.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THE BUDGET IS COMING UP.

AND I KNOW THIS WILL BE Y'ALL'S FIRST TIME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCESS IS FOR THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET CAN BE LONG AND DRAWN OUT.

AND IT IS A LOT OF READING AND MEETING AND STUFF THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE OVERLOADED WITH. AND SO I WOULD SAY AND AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, THAT WE COULD DO THIS AFTER THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GET TIRED OF MEETING EVERY DAY. OR ONCE A WEEK.

YOU PROBABLY WILL, AND I AM TELLING YOU IT IS LONG AND DRAWN OUT. IT IS NOT -- IT IS A TEDIOUS PROCEDURE. AND SO I WOULD GO ALONG THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS AFTER THE BUDGET.

BECAUSE IT IS COMING UP. AND THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON SMITH.

>> I JUST WANT TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE MAYOR AND SAY THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A GENERAL CONSENSUS HERE, WHERE WE WANT TO DO THIS AFTER THE BUDGET HEARING.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON RESOLUTION 59? HEARING NONE, SEEING NUB, WE ARE NOW READY FOR NEW BUSINESS.

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I PREFER THAT THIS WOULD GO THROUGH THE TWO COMMITTEES, PARKS AND RECREATION, BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT THE EXIT 8 OR ROSS VIEW OR CLARKSVILLE ATHLETIC COMPLEX PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. SO I AM GOING TO ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL THE MAY REGULAR SESSION WHEN WE GET TO THIS ORDINANCE. TO GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME TO FULLY DIGEST WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL PROJECT.

BUT IT IS ALSO COMPLICATED. SO THAT'S MY EXPLANATION OF ORDINANCE 83. IF THERE'S A QUESTION I WOULD BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW? HEARING NONE SEEING NONE, WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, ORDINANCE 91, 2020-21. AMENDING -- I AM SORRY.

WE HAVE -- COUNCIL PERSON REDD. >> SO YOU ARE POSTPONEMENT IS GOING TO BE A POSTPONEMENT TO COMMIT TO FINANCE AND PARKS THE

RECK? >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> COUNCIL -- HANG ON.

LET ME GUEST MY LIFT HERE. COUNCIL PERSON STREITMANN.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WAS GOING TO -- I ASSUMED THAT THE SPONSOR OF THIS WOULD SPEAK FIRST, THE ISSUE GOING TO FOLLOW. BUT IN REGARD TO ORDINANCE.

>> WE AREN'T THERE YET. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS PUSHING THE

BUTTON FOR THAT. >> COUNCIL PERSON HOLLMAN YOU

WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON 83. >> YES, SIR.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST HAD A QUESTION OF ACCORDING TO HOW IT IS RIGHT NOW, HOW MUCH IS IT FOR SALE FOR? IS IT THREE-POINT --

>> $3.4 MILLIONS IN CHANGE, AND IT WAS APPRAISED.

BASED ON THE PROPERTY THEY WISH TO PURCHASE BUT ALL OF THAT WOULD BE KIND OF FULLY LAYED OUT TO THE COMMITTEES THE THE

COUNCIL AS SORT OF A PACKAGE. >> AND THE PROPERTY AT EXIT

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THAT INITIATELY. >> I THINK IT WAS FOUR AND

CHANGE. >> FOUR AND CHANGE.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> I WILL CORRECT THAT IF I AM WRONG. ANYBODY ELSE ON ORDINANCE 83? OKAY. NOW ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE 91. AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO TIMES OF REGULAR SESSION AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU HAVE

THE SPONSOR YOU ARE RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL THE ONLY REASON I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA IS BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD MANY COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMES WE HAVE BEEN MEETING. WE HAVE BEEN HERE SOMETIMES TO THE NEXT DAY. WE START THE MEETING AT SOMETIMES 6:45 P.M. AND WE DON'T GET OUT OF HERE UNTIL 1:00 THE NEXT DAY. SO I KNOW WE HAVE FAMILIES.

WE HAVE CHILDREN. AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCEDURE.

AND WITH THE FAIRNESS AND DUE DILIGENCE.

AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO CHANGE THE TIME.

SO I AM JUST REQUESTING YOU CAN -- YOU KNOW, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS IF YOU WANT TO.

I JUST -- I HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE.

WHO HAVE TO BE HERE. AND THEY KIND OF LIKE THIS TIME.

I TALK TO SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES. I HAVE TALKED TO SOME CITY COUNCIL IN THE SENSE OF WHAT DO THEY THINK.

WHAT DO YOU THINK. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THE TIME TO BE. AND THIS IS JUST THEN I AM THROWING OUT THERE, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND SOMETIMES I KNOW THAT AFTER 20 MINUTES OF PREACHING I AM READY TO SIT DOWN.

BECAUSE NOBODY'S MEMORY IS GOING TO REMEMBER ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID. BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN I GET HOME I DON'T KNOW WHAT I VOTED ON.

AND I SAY THAT -- AND I AM SERIOUS.

THE OLDER I GET I AM LIKE THE MAYOR, I CAN'T REMEMBER NOTHING.

BUT ANYWAY, I WAS JUST PROPOSING THAT WE START THE -- THIS FALLS UNDER THE CITY CODE, TITLE 1, AND IT IS CHAPTER TWO, SECTION 1-ZOO ZERO ONE, JUST TO CHANGE THE TIME.

SAME DATE AND PLACE, FROM 7:00 P.M. TO 5:30.

WITH THE COMMENT PUBLIC COMMENTS STARTING AT 5:00 P.M.

AND THAT'S ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT BETTER FOR US.

THAT'S ALL. THIS IS NOTHING PINPOINT, JUST

TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER. >> OKAY, WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

AND OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL PERSON STREITMANN YOU ARE FIRST ON THE

LIST. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WHILE I FULLY RESPECT THE REASONING BEHIND THE COUNCIL PERSON WHO IS SPONSORING THIS, RECOGNIZING THAT SOME OF THE STATEMENT MADE AFTER A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME OF US BEING HERE, AND TALKING FOR A WHILE. A FOUR AND A HALF MEETING OR A FIVE AND A HALF HOUR MEETING IS A FOUR AND A HALF MEETING WHETHER IT IS IT STARTS AT 5:30, OR WHETHER IT STARTS AT .

MY CONCERN WITH US MOVING THIS TIME STARTING AT 7:00 TO STARTING AT 5:30, MANY PEOPLE, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, THEY AREN'T GETTING OFF WORK UNTIL 5:00 P.M.

FOR THEM TO TRY AND LEAVE WORK, GET HERE TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT'S INCLUDING DRIVING THROUGH RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC.

GETTING PARKED. WALKING TO THE FACILITY.

AND THEN TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE SECURITY, I REALIZE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE HERE RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT WILL BE CHANGING.

AND KNOWING THAT THE CASES THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THE PAST HAVE TURNED OUT FOR TO REPRESENT, AND TO SHOW NUMBERS THOSE ARE GENERALLY ZONING CASES. AND ALL OF OUR ZONING CASES ARE HELD AT THE BEGIN OFFING THE MEETING.

WHAT I TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, BOTH OF OUR MEETING FEBRUARY WAS FIVE AND A HALF HOURS, AND ENDED AT 12:26:00 A.M. AND THE MARCH MEETING ENDED AT 11:36 A.M. AND THE FIRST TWO YEARS THAT I WAS ON THIS COUNCIL, IN 2019 WE HAD NINE REGULAR SESSION MEETING. THAT LASTED ONE HOUR LONG.

IN 2020, WE HAD EIGHT MEETING THAT WERELESS THAN TWO HOURS.

THE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO THE FACT, THESE LONG MEETINGS THE BECAUSE WE ARE CHOOSING AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PUT A LOT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. AND WHILE EVERYBODY DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, THAT'S WHAT IS LENGTHENING THESE MEETING OUT. AND I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO PUNISH OUR CITIZENS AND HINDER THEIR ABILITY TO ATTEND, ESPECIALLY THE BEGINNING THE THE 5:00 P.M. PUBLIC COMMENTS PERIOD JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE CHOOSING OURSELVES TO HAVE

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SO AGAIN, WITH FULL RESPECT FOR THE REASONING BEHIND THIS, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE EMPLOYEES ARE AT HAVING TO TEAL WITH THESE LATE HOURS, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS MEASURE FOR THOSE REASONS.

BECAUSE WE WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT AND LOOK OUT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME.

>> I CAN HEAR YOU. >> I FREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. I CONCUR I THINK I SAID THAT A WHILE AGO. I THINK IT WAS AT THE END OF ONE OF THOSE MEETING THAT IT ISN'T NECESSARILY TIME STRUCTURE, IT IS HOW WE MANAGE THE TIME. AND FOR MYSELF, I JUST LOOK AND THOUGHT THIS IS A VERY AMBITIOUS AGENDA.

AND I THINK IT IS JUST A MATTER OF REMANAGING THE EXPECTATIONS OF AN AGENDA TO REALIZE THIS IS A MARATHON NOT A RACE.

THERE'S A REASON WE ARE HERE FOR FOUR YEARS NOT JUST A WEEK AND TWO MEETING. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT DA PAP I DO BELIEVE THAT ASKING CITIZENS AND REGISTER VOTERS AND THOSE THAT ELECTED TO US RERANK THEIR LIVES WHEN IT IS AN EASILY FIXABLE SOLUTION TO JUST KIND OF MANAGE THE AGENDA AND THAT EXPECTATION. I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE PROPOSITION. AND I TOO WILL BE VOTING UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY VOTING THIS TOWN.

THE WAY IT STANDS UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT COMES ALLOCK WITH THIS. BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE WORKS AND IT IS JUST A MATTER OF PACING OURSELVES.

THANK YOU. >> .

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE SKIN IN THIS GAME, OR A PONY IN THIS RACE BECAUSE I PRETTY MUCH DON'T SLEEP ANYWAY, EVER. HOWEVER, AND I SWEAR THIS ISN'T AT ANYBODY, BUT HAVE GOTTEN THE OPPOSITE FROM MY CONSTITUENT WHOSE ARE SAYING COULD THEY DO THIS EARLIER BECAUSE I CAN'T STAY UP SO LATE OR WHATNOT. BUT HONESTLY, I SEE BOTH SIDES OF IT. REALLY.

AND I DON'T REALLY MIND EITHER WAY.

I WILL PROBABLY SEND OUT A NEWSLETTER CHECK MY STITCH WENTS FOR THIS. I WOULD NOT EVER, AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING, I WOULD NEVER SAY DON'T BRING LEGISLATION. HOWEVER, I WOULD SAY BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES UP HERE.

MAYBE DON'T BRING 15 ORDINANCES AT ONE TIME.

AND I WILL BE TAKING MY OWN ADVICE, AND HAVE ALREADY MADE SOME DECISIONS ON THAT. JUST SO THAT EVERYONE SITTING UP HERE KNOWS I AM TRYING TO BE MORE RESPECTFUL OF YOU AND YOUR TIME. AND OF COURSE, ALSO MY VOTER BASE AND ALL MY CITIZEN THIS IS MY WARD.

SO I AM GOING TO KEEP ASKING ABOUT IN, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU ADDRESSED THIS. THAT THE SPONSOR ADDRESSED THIS.

BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PERSON YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I AM FOR THIS ORDINANCE 100%.

WE LIVE IN THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY.

AND WE -- OUR CONSTITUENTS CAN LOOK AT ANY TIME THEY WANT TO BY VIDEO OF ANY OF THE MEETING WE ARE HAVING.

WE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING, WHERE MOST OF THE DISCUSSION TAKES PLACE. AND IT IS BY VIDEO.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT THAT MUCH TODAY IN THE TIME THAT WE LIVE IN. A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE AND WORK AT HOME ANY MORE. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THEY ACTUALLY WORK NIGHTS.

SO WHENEVER WE SAY THAT WE ARE HAVING A MEETING UP TO 8:00 P.M.

AT NIGHT, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT NIGHT.

I THINK 5:00 P.M. IS A REASONABLE TIME.

TO START, AGAIN, WE ARE HERE NOW.

AND IF THERE ARE ZONING CASES I THINK THAT WE ONLY -- THE LIMIT IS JUST TWO PEOPLE THAT CAN SPICSPEAKFOR AND AGAINST THE ZO.

REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE MAY BE FOR AND AGAINST IT.

WE ALL HAVE TELEPHONES. WE HAVE THE CITY EMAIL ADDRESS.

WE HAVE OUR OWN EMAIL ACTRESS. IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN ORB HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT SOMETHING, I DON'T SEE HOW THE TIME IS GOING TO TIS COURAGE MEMBERS TO PUBLIC THAT THEY

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BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE THE VIDEO.

AND SO I AM FOR 5:30. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE IT 4:30 I WOULD BE FOR THAT TODAY. BUT I WOULD SAY THIS, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR THE 5:00 P.M. AS IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, MAYBE YOU CAN FIND A MIDDLE GROUND AND GO 6:00 P.M.

OR SOMETHING, THE WE WOULD ALL GET HUNGRY, AND SPEAK QUICKSTER

GO HOME. >> FOR THE RECORD, I THINK WE

ARE TALKING P.M. NOT A.M. >> I AM SORRY.

>> COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THANK YOU FOR WEIGHING IN.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YEARS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER BEFORE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, WARD 10 EVEN GOT ON THE COUNCIL THAT WE STAYED MANY LONG HOURS.

AND MANY LONG NIGHTS. AND I KNOW THAT WARD ONE CAN ATTEST TO THAT. THIS WAS BEFORE WARD 10 EVER WAS ELECTED TO THE SEAT. SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS, I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, IN WARD 5 OR 4 OR 5, THAT OUR CITIZENS. THEY CAN LOOK AT THAT ONLINE ANY TIME. BECAUSE WE LIVE STREAM.

AND HEY, WE ARE TRACK PATIENT. THEY CAN LOOK AT THIS ANY TIME.

IT SHOULDN'T BE NO CONSTRAINT ON THEM.

WHEN IT COMES TO REVIEWING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT RECORDS. HAVE IT SET UP AUTOMATIC RECORDER THAT THEY CAN RECORD THIS.

AND THEN IT IS ALSO ON OUR CITY WEBSITE.

YOU CAN PULL IT UP ANY TIME. WHEN I AM IN MY CAR, JUST TAKE MY PHONE, PULL IT UP. SO I DON'T SEE WHERE IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR THE CITIZENS. BUT DO THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US AS COUNCIL PERSON WHERE WE CAN MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU GET TIRED AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND THAT HAPPENED.

BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR WEIGHING IN ON IT.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SAID THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUR CLERK AS WELL.

I KNOW SHE IS TIRED THE SHE WORKED HARD.

>> AMEN TO THAT. >> I KNOW THAT.

AND WE KNOW CINDY WORKS HARD. AND I ALSO GOT SOME WEIGH IN FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THAT WORK HERE.

DAY, THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> MINE IS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN.

WITH THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES I WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT ABOUT THE BEGIN OFFING THE MEETING YOU CAN SET -- IT IS CALLED A SETTING AN ADJOURNMENT TIME, I FORGET THE EXACT WORDS.

AND AT THE BEGIN OFFING THE MEETING YOU SET THE TIME YOU ARE GOING TO ADJOURN. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET A LONG AGENDA THAT IS SO LONG IT IS GOING TO TAKE SIX HOURS.

HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT, WHERE WE CAN SAY HEY, WE WILL GO BACK TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND

COMPLETE THIS AGENDA? >> OKAY.

SO I HAVE NEVER BEEN ASKED THAT. WHAT IS GOING THROUGH MY HEAD IS THAT THE -- THE CHARTER AND THE CODE ESTABLISH WHAT TIME THE REGULAR SESSION MEETING ARE. AND THEN THERE'S THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUBLIC MEETING ACT.

AND NOTICE, AND SO I AM NOT SURE THAT LEGALLY YOU COULD DO THAT? EVEN THOUGH OUR CHARTER SAYS OR OUR CODE ACTUALLY SAYS WE WILL FOLLOW THE LATEST EDITION OF ROBERT'S RULES.

BUT IT GOES ON TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION -- I CAN'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT SAYS. BUT CHANGES IT.

AND THERE IS A LAW THAT DEALS WITH THE MEETING TIMES.

SO I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT YOU CAN DO IT.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO. THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD NEED TO RESEARCH A LITTLE BIT. AS TO WHETHER -- AT THE END OF A MEETING OR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING YOU GO HEY, WE ARE GOING TO SAY THAT WE AREN'T GOING TO MEET PASS, I DON'T KNOW, 9:00 P.M. AND IF WE AREN'T FINISHED WITH OUR BUSINESS, THEN WE'RE DOING TO CARRY OVER TO SOME OTHER DAY AND TIME. MAYBE YOU CAN DO IT.

BUT I NEED TO RESEARCH IT. >> CAN YOU PLEASE.

BECAUSE IT WAS IN ROBERT'S ORDER.

AND I LOOKED THROUGH THE CODE AND IT DIDN'T SAY YOU COULDN'T.

>> I AGREE. I TO BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT THAT IT IS IN ROBERT'S RULES. THE QUESTION IS DUH THAT ROBERT'S RULE CONFLICT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S WRITTEN INTO

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AND IT MAY, BUT I AM NOT ACCEPT. I WILL LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU

THOUGH. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.

>> I AM DONE. >> COUNCIL PERSON STREITMANN YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I WAS NOT REFERRING TO THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WATCHING THE MEETING. AGAIN, ANYBODY -- THAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY STATED. ANYBODY CAN WATCH IT AT ANY TIME. AND THAT'S EVEN IF IT IS RUNNING LATE AND PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO BED AND CAN'T STAY UP THEY COULD WATCH IT THE NEXT DAY. WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THAT.

AGAIN, I WAS REFERENCING WHEN WE GO BACK TO BEING IN PUBLIC, AND PEOPLE ATTEND HERE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE ITEMS THAT BRING PEOPLE OUT THE MOST ARE GOING TO BE ZONING CASES.

YES, THERE ARE THE OCCASIONAL OTHER ITEMS THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE OUT BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THAT WILL BE ZONING CASES. AND OFTEN WHY YOU TO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THEY CAN SPEAK FOUR, AND AGAINST.

THERE HAVE BEEN TIME WHERE THEY SPEAK CAN I ASK EVERYONE HERE THAT'S IN FAVOR OF THIS, OR AGAINST THIS TO PLEASE STAND UP.

SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO SHOWCASE NUMBERS.

I KNOW THEY CAN EMAIL US, AND CALL US.

BUT IN REGARD TO GIVING THEM THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE, AND BE IN PERSON AGAIN WITH THOSE ZONING CASES THAT ARE OFTEN THE MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS, THOSE BEING AT THE BEGINNING. THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.

IT WASN'T IN ANY WAY THOSE WATCHING AT HOME.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR MENTIONING THE PREVIOUS YEARS.

I WILL LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE.

BECAUSE THE MINUTES ARE AVAILABLE FOR US TO REVIEW.

AND THEN WHEN WE TALK THURSDAY NIGHT I CAN ALWAYS GIVE MORE

NUMBERS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. >> POINT OF PRIVILEGE.

>> CAN WE TAKE A QUICK RECESS. >> WE WILL RECESS UNTIL TEN MINUTES UNTIL 7:00 OR 6:50 DEPENDING ON YOUR WATCH.

WE ARE AT TEN TO 7:00 P.M. WE ARE ON ORDINANCE 91.

I AND HAVE COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND WHO IS NOT THERE.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE 91? SEEING NONE HEARING NONE, WE NOW READY FOR ITEM 3, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 92, APPROVING A SETTLEMENT OF THE ROBINSON OR FRANKLIN STREET CORPORATION, CITY STATE COURT AND FEDERAL COURT LAWSUITS. COUNCILPERSON BURTLER YOU ARE

THE SPONSOR. >> SO I PUT THIS ON HERE WHEN WE WERE IN OUR SPECIAL SESSION SO THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AN OFFER. NOW I KNOW THAT SENSE THEN, SOME THINGS HAVE COME DOWN THE PIPELINE.

THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CHANGED PEOPLE'S -- OPINIONS ON WHETHER WE SHOULD DO THAT NOW. SO I GUESS -- WE CAN DISCUSS IT? JUST THE SAME. THAT'S OKAY, RIGHT.

SO THIS IS MORE SO A DISCUSSION AND OBVIOUSLY IF BY THURSDAY WE DECIDE WE AREN'T READY TO DO THAT, THEN WE CAN VOTE THIS DOWN. SO THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S ALL LEGAL. I AM GOOD ON THAT, FROM YOU ARE

GOOD ON THAT. >> OKAY.

AS LONG AS IT IS LEGAL AND IT IS GOOD, THAT IS WHAT I PRESENT TO YOU. THANK YOU.

>> MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL WOULD BE TO POSTPONE THIS. THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE MEETING AFTER THURSDAY.

GIVES OUR LEGAL STAFF TIME TO DIGEST THE FEDERAL JUDGE RULING AND THEN PRESENT TO US OPTIONS. IN A CLOSED PRIVATE ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE MEETING.

VERSES DISCUSSING IT OPENLY, IN AN OPEN MEETING AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK INTO SEG, IF WE WANTED TO VOTE ON SOMETHING.

>> I AM FINE WITH THAT TOP SEEING AS MORE EVIDENCE HAS COME

FORWARD. >> YEAH.

THAT'S A PRETTY LENGTHY DECISION BY THE FEDERAL COURT JUDGE.

AND OUR LAWYERS NEED TIME TO REALLY GO THROUGH AND IT MAKE

SURE WE ARE IN A PROPER POSTURE. >> SO I DON'T KNOW DO I NEED

TO -- PLEASE MR. BAKER. >> SO THE -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. THERE WON'T BE ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT TO DO.

WE WOULD HAVE WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST WHAT THE MAYOR IS SUGGESTING IS THAT WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE SESSION, WHERE I CAN GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT THE STATUS OF ALL THREE CASES TO INCLUDE THE LATEST JUDGE AT THE FEDERAL COURT JUDGE'S RULING ON OUR RULE 12 MOTION TO DISMISS THE

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THEN ONCE WE FINISH -- I ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS I GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE, THEN WE CAN GO INTO PUBLIC SESSION AND Y'ALL CAN TAKE A VOTE ON SOMETHING. THE ORDINANCE IS STILL ON THE AGENDA, OF COURSE FOR THURSDAY NIGHT.

AND I WILL BE SENDING OUT TOMORROW THE ACTUAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU ASKED ME TO TWEAK.

THE TEMPLATE DOCUMENT IS THE SO CALLED MURPHY SETTLEMENT TREATMENT THAT WE SENT TO THEM LAST -- I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW.

LAST SUMMER AUGUST OR SOMETIME. AND WE HAVE TAKEN OUT THE PARTS THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY FOUND OBJECTION NATIONAL.

AND SO IT WILL BE -- YOU WILL HAVE THAT AS OF TOMORROW.

IT WILL BE IN THE BACK UP DOCUMENTATION THAT MS. SKINNER SENDS OUT THIS THURSDAY. AND YOU COULD TAKE A VOTE.

BECAUSE IT IS ON THE AGENDA. BUT WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THE RULING, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT -- THE ULTIMATELY THAT IT ENDS UP IN A CHANGE OR NOT. IT COULD BE.

WE -- IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU POSTPONE A VOTE SO THAT AND ALSO NOT JUST THE CHANGE IN SIRS BASED ON THE RULING OF THE COURT, BUT ALSO THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN WHAT THEY ARE COMMUNICATING TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE SEEKING AS FAR AS A SETTLEMENT. SO WE CAN JUST -- PRESENT ALL THAT TO YOU. AND Y'ALL CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

BUT IF YOU ARE INK GO TO DEBATE -- AND YOU CAN DO IT THURSDAY ABOUT WHAT WE OUT TO DO.

BUT THE SUGGESTION IS TO POSTPONE IT FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR IS THINKING A WHOLE MONTH OR NOT. BUT MAYBE HAVING A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION YET AGAIN, JUST TO DEAL WITH THIS.

AND MAYBE VOTE ON WHAT TO DO OR WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND THEN YOU VOTE NEXT MONTH.

LAWSUITS ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SO IT ISN'T LIKE WE HAVE A TIME

CRUMPLE OR SOMETHING. >> AN EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW.

>> I THINK THAT MY POSITION WOULD STILL BE.

I WOULD LIKE TO LET THE COUNCIL VOTE ON THURSDAY WHETHER OR NOT TO POSTPONE. SO I MEAN THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.

SO THAT EVERYBODY GETS TO HAVE THEIRS INPUT ON IT.

I THINK THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU INTENSE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 92? SEEING NONE, WE ARE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 93. FIRST READING AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL.

COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN IS THE SPONSORED.

>> SO I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, AND I DID SOME RESEARCH.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW I DID RESEARCH.

AND I GOT -- WHEN I WAS RUNNING AND EVERY SINCE I HAVE BEEN BACK IN THE OFFICE, I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE WE TONE ABOUT THE ATTORNEY FEES. SO I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH, AND I FOUND THAT OUR CODE CURRENTLY GIVES -- OUR CITY ATTORNEY BASICALLY HE CAN JUST -- HE HAS THE FULL AUTHORITY, HE HAS THE FULL DETERMINATION, OF WHO HE HIRES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT IF WE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE DOLLARS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT PART OF THINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

SO THAT IS WHY I PRESENTED THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

HOWEVER, WHAT I DO WANT TO DO IS I DO WANT TO HEAR THE COUNCIL'S CONCERNS. I WENT TO OTHER CITIES AND LOOKED AND I DIDN'T FIND ONE CITY THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY JUST HAS THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WHAT HE WANTS LIKE THAT.

IT HAD TO GO THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS.

THERE HAS TO BE CHECKS AND BALANCES.

AND IN THIS SITUATIONS THERE ARE NONE.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN TO A FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHAT IS REPORTED IS HERE ARE THE NUMBERS.

AND THERE'S NO TALK ABOUT IT. IN QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

NONE OF THAT. BUT THEN WE ARE EXPECTED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLEBLE FOR THESE TAX DOL DOLLARS AND WE ARE NOT HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE. WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THREE FEES OR ANY OTHER FEES THAT OUR CITY HAS TO GO UNCHECKED.

AND THAT IS WHY I PRESENTED THIS LEGISLATION.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON STREITMANN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT ARE THE CHECK AND BALANCES THAT YOU FOUND IN PLACE IN OTHER CITIES?

>> SO IN SEVERAL OTHER CITIES I FOUND THAT THEY GO THROUGH --

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AND WHAT IS THE PROJECTED FOR THIS.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THEY LOOK FOR.

SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST A SHELL OF SOMETHING THAT I FOUND.

BUT WE CAN CHECK -- WE CAN VERY EASILY CHANGE THAT TO IT BEING REVIEWED IN ADVANCE BEFORE WE SPEND THE MONEY.

INSTEAD OF IN THE BACK PART. THAT CAN AL BE SOMETHING THAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE CAN DO. IT CAN COME TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. I JUST PUT IT TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT THE COUNCIL DOES IT. SO THAT -- WE DISCUSSIONS. INSTEAD OF -- NOT ADDRESSING IT

PERIOD. >> OKAY.

AND I DO WANT TO SAY IN REGARD TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS FAR AS THOSE COMING FORWARD. WE AREN'T JUST GIVEN THE NUMBER OF WHAT IT IS, INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET OR IN A SEPARATE EMAIL WE GET. WE DO HAVE A BREAK DOWN OF WHAT THOSE CHARGES ARE. SO IT ISN'T JUST ONE NUMBER.

IT IS A BREAK DOWN OF EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH IT.

>> WELL THE LAST FINANCE MEETING THAT I WAS AT, THEY SAID HERE ARE THE NUMBERS. AND IT WAS BROKEN DOWN TO CASE, BUT IT WASN'T BROKEN DOWN TO WHAT THE RECEIVES WERE.

SO EVERYBODY ELSE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

BUT IT IS STILL RETRO ACT ILY. IT IS STILL REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE, INSTEAD OF DECIDING TO SPEND THE MONEY IN ADVANCE.

>> WHAT I AM STATING IS WE GET A BREAK DOWN.

IT ISN'T JUST THE NUMBERS ON THERE.

WE HAVE A BREAK DOWN OF THE OVERALL NUMBERS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. >> I HAVE YOU ON THE LIST.

>> I THINK THIS IS A SIMPLE QUESTION AND IF NO ONE KNOWS IT AT THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD I WILL LOOK IT UP.

BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS RECENTLY AMENDED.

WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE CAN SETTLE WITHOUT IT COMING BEFORE THE FULL CITY COUNCIL?

>> MR. BAKER. >> $150,000.

>> THANK YOU. >> OF THE --

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

>> I AM SORRY WERE YOU -- >> I WAS JUST -- THE RISK MANAGER IS NOW 7500, MY AUTHORITY IS 30,000, F & A IS 150,000. ANYTHING ABOVE 150 IS A MAJORITY

OF THE COUNCIL. >> COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER DOES THAT SQUARE YOU AWAY? THIS CLOSE.

>> AND THAT. >> THAT APLOYS TO ALL CASES AND CLAIMS. IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A LAWSUIT, JUST A CLAIM, THAT WAS FILED OR SUBMITTED AFTER THE DATE OF THE PASSAGE OF THAT ORDINANCE THAT DEALS WITH THE AUTHORITY. THE INTERIM -- SO CALLED INTERNAL FUND GUIDELINES FOREIGN ALL CASES BEFORE THAT.

SPECIFICALLY IN THE ROBINSON MATTER, THE STATE COURT ACTION, CAN ONLY BE SETTLED BY THE F & A COMMITTEE.

THE TWO ECONOMY CASES THE FEDERAL COURT LAWSUIT AND THEN THE THIRD LAWSUIT WHICH IS ALSO A STATE COURT LAWSUIT.

THEY CAN ONLY -- WELL, THEY CAN BE SETTLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITIES. IF IT IS OVER 150, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE CITY COUNCIL. AND LET ME SAY ONE MORE THING, ORDINARILY, A SETTLEMENT CAN BE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION.

BUT IF IT INVOLVES A TRANSFER OF PROPERTY, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY

ORDINANCE. >> INTERESTING.

>> BECAUSE OUR CHARTER SPECIFIES THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN TRANSFER A PROPERTY, SELL IT, DONATE IT, BUY IT, IS BY ORDINANCE. YOU ONLY HAVE THE POWER TO DO

THAT BY ORDINANCE. >> AND YOU HAVE WRESTEMMED UP

ANOTHER QUESTION. >> I SHOULD HAVE KEPT MY MOUTH

SHOULD HAVE. >> BEFORE IT WAS CHANGED TO 150 WHAT WAS IT? AND AGAIN --

>> THE SETTLEMENT AUTHORITIES WERE $5,000 FOR THE RISK MANAGER. $20,000 FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND ANYTHING ABOVE $20,000 WAS F & A ONLY.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

AGAIN. >> THANK YOU.

COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.

WITH THE SHORTAGE OF ATTORNEYS IN ATTORNEY BAKER'S OFFICE, AND CONSIDERING THE WORKLOAD IN THAT OFFICE, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO HAVING THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE SENT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE

FOR REVIEW? >> COUNCIL YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I AM NOT OPPOSED.

IF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS TRULY GOING TO TO WORK ON IT AND MAKE IT COMPREHENSIVE, TO WE WITH HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO THESE TAX DOLLARS.

DEFINITELY. BUT IF IT IS JUST GOING TO PHOTO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THEN APPROVED AND SENT BACK, THEN WHAT ARE WE SENDING IT BACK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR? SO THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. IF WE DECIDE TO SEND THIS

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COMMITTEE, WHAT FOR? >> COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT?

>> YES. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIEW.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU WERE OPPOSED OR NOT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED?

>> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE'RE ASKING ABOUT SETTLEMENTS AND GOING TRANSFERRING WORKLOAD TO OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD PROCESS FOR DOCUMENTING THE HOURS SPENT AND ON WHAT COURT CASES OUR OWN LAWYERS -- OUR OWN WORKLOAD IN HOUSE.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, THAT MR. BAKER AND HIS TEAM REQUEST A DATABASE, OR A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHAT IS USED IN THEIR COUNT PARTS TO DOCUMENT TIME SPENT ON COURT CASES. YOU KNOW THE TYPICAL BILLING.

WE DON'T -- WE COULD DO BILLING HOURS AND KEEP TRACK OF WHAT COURT CASES THEY ARE WORKING ON. OTHERWISE, BEWOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO EQUITABLY DECIDE IF THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE A OUTSIDE

RESOURCE OR NOT. >> THANK YOU.

WE WILL CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT WE PUT BEFORE CONSISTENT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT INSIDE THAT SOFTWARE WHAT THE TRUE PURPOSE IS AND WE WILL GO INTO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE BUDGET. COUNCIL PERSON REDD YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.

I THINK MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT SOMEONE SAID THAT CURRENTLY THE AMOUNT THAT WE SPEND IS NOT PART OF THE RECORD FROM ON COUNCIL THE REPORT THERE, IS NOT PRIVY TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. BUT IT IS, ISN'T IT?

>> YES, SIR. >> THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

>>S IS PART OF THE RECORD, PART OF THE MINUTES.

>> YES. >> AND I AM LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT IS WORDING HERE.

THE CITY COUNCIL BY A MAJORITY VOTE SHALL HAVE THE FULL AUTHORITY TO APPROPRIATION FUNDING FOR RETAINING OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST THING. AND -- IF WE HAVE TO GET OUTSIDE COUNSEL THEN, IT WOULD COME TO ARE VOTE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT THE WAY I AM READING THIS? INSTEAD OF THE WAY IT IS NOW.

>> MR. BAKER. >> YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN. WITH WHAT I HAVE HEARD COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN SAY. SHE MAKES GOOD POINTS.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER NIGHT HAS MADE POINTS WITH REGARD TO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU.

I THINK IT IS A FOOD EYE, AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I WOULD WEIGH IN ON THIS POLICY CHOICE, IS BECAUSE IT DOES EFFECT ME AND MY OFFICE DIRECTLY. I THINK IT NEEDS SOME STUDY.

I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ALLEN HAS SUGGESTED THAT SHE WOULD WELCOME THAT. THERE CAN BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, AND THE WAY TO DO THAT I THINK IS THROUGH THE F & A COMMITTEE. I AGREE IF IT IS JUST GOING TO GO THERE AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, I DON'T SEE WHAT PURPOSE IT SERVES. BUT AT LEAST FOR ME, AT LEAST, I WOULD WANT TO RESEARCH IT. SEE WHAT ERR OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. AND DISCUSS IT, HASH IT OUT, IN THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE.

AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OR PROPOSALS. THEY MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY WE LIKE COUNCILMAN ALLEN'S ORDINANCE AS IS.

OR WE WANT TO MAKE SOME SUGGESTED TWEAKS TO IT.

OR WE DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL. I WOULD.

>> YOU TO NOT MOVE HASTILY IN THIS AREA.

>> WELSHES IT IS WHAT I WAS -- MAYBE ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES COULD BE IF SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE QUICKLY, AND TO AVOID HAVING TO HAVE YET ANOTHER SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, THAT WE SEEM LIKE WE ARE -- MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST PHOTO HAVE TWO

MEETING A MONTH. >> WE DO.

>> WE DO ALREADY. >> ONCE A WEEK.

>> AND IT WAS DETAILED LIKE THAT, AND MAYBE HOW MUCH IS BEING SPENT ON A OUTSIDE. IF IT IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT BELOW WHERE IT WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL.

AND IT COULD THEN JUST BE AT THE DISCRETION.

BUT I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TOO.

THE ORDINANCE OTHER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

AND IF THERE WOULD BE A CAVEAT IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY

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THAT COULD TAKE PLACE AND THAT. THANK YOU.

POINT OF PRIVILEGE. >> MY MIKE IS STILL ON, AND I

CAN'T EAT SNACKS BEEN. >> IT WAS A TRICK.

IT WAS A TRICK. >> COUNCIL PERSON HOLMAN YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, I HAD A QUESTION

FOR MR. BAKER. >> MR. BAKER.

>> YES, SIR. SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HIRE OUTCOUNSEL, IT IS USUALLY BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO SPECIALIZE IN SOMETHING OR IS IT BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE UNDERSTAFFED. WHAT IS THE CIRCUMSTANCE?

>>> KIT BE BOTH. AND SOMETIMES IT IS BECAUSE OF A SPECIALIZED AREA OF LAW. LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW.

YOU DON'T WANT US WORKING ON ENVIRONMENTAL LAW CASES, BECAUSE NOBODY IN MY OFFICE IS ENVIRONMENTAL LAW EXPERT.

WE DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.

AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE. AND IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WORKING IN THAT KIND OF AN AREA, AND THEY ARE NOT EXPERIENCED, THE ADVERSE POTENTIAL ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES CAN BE VERY SERIOUS. LIKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SERIOUS. THERE ARE OTHER COMPLEX AREAS OF LAW LIKE I WILL JUST TELL YOU EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION LAW HAS BECOME SO COMPLIES. YOU REALLY WANT SOMEONE WHO HAS 30, 40, 35, 25 -- AT LEAST PROBABLY 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THAT. AGAIN, BECAUSE THE RISKS ARE SO HIGH. I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO DEVELOP COUNSEL IN HOUSE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

AND WE ARE DOING SOME OF IT. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER -- THE OTHER TIMES IT IS JUST PURELY FROM A -- WE HAVE TOO MUCH WORK TO DO. AND SOMETIMES IT IS A COMBINATION. IT CAN BE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT LEAD TO THE HIRING OF JUT SIDE COUNSEL.

>> JUST FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE LESS INCLINED TO HIRE JUT SIDE COUNSEL IF YOU HAD ADDITIONAL ASSISTANT ATTORNEYS? OR WOULD THAT FACTOR IN?

>> LET ME SAY THIS. IT IS A COMPLICATED KIND OF DECISION AND EQUATION WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. AND I DON'T THINK THAT JUST THROWING YOUNG INEXPERIENCED LAWYERS AT THE KINDS OF CASES WE DEAL WITH IS GOING TO BE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION.

I GUARANTEE YOU IT IS NOT. I SAY THAT BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, WE DEAL WITH SOME CASES ENVIRONMENTAL CASES, EMPOINT CASES, TAKINGS CASINGS, THAT CAN BE -- AND I AM NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT RUN OF THE MILL CONDEMNATION CASES, BUT YOU CAN GET CASES THAT ARE VERY COMPLICATED.

THAT DEAL WITH THE INTERSECTION OF MULL PAL DIFFERENT LAWS.

AND YOU CAN'T THROW SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN OUT OF LAW SCHOOL THREE YEARS OR EVEN EIGHT OR NINE YEARS, AND JUST EXPECT THEM TO HANDLE THOSE KIND OF CASES. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE SALARY STRUCTURE I HAVE, I CANNOT HIRE PEOPLE WHO HAVE 20, 25, 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. NOT EVEN 15 YEARS REALLY.

IN THE KINDS OF AREAS WE NEED. THAT'S NOT TO SAY, THOUGH THAT I WOULDN'T WELCOME ADDITIONAL ATTORNEYS.

BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF RUN OF THE MILL CAR WRECK CASES UNDER THE GOVERNMENT TORT LIABILITY ACT.

WE GET SECTION 1983 CASES WHICH IS MORE COMPLICATED BUT SOME OF THOSE LIKE AILING ILLEGAL ARREST, MAYBE EXCESSIVE FORCE, WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE. AND THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF CASES TOO PREMISES LIABILITY CASES.

THAT I CAN GET SOMEONE WITH SIX, FIVE OR 67 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, AND JUST TURN THAT CASE OTHER TO THEM AND THEN HANDLE THAT.

BUT NOT EVERYTHING CAN BE HANDLED.

IF YOU GIVE ME MORE LAWYERS I WILL PUT THEM TO WORK.

I HAVE PLENTY OF WORK FOR THEM. BUT IT IS NOT RAH PANACEA.

>> I GOT YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

THAT WILL BE ALL, THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ONE DAY ME AND MR. BAKER HAD A CONFERS ABOUT HIRING MORE ATTORNEYS BUT THERE WERE SOME SPECIALTIES THERE NEEDED TO BE COVERED FOR THOSE ATTORNEY FEES. TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, NOT THIS PREVIOUS SPEAKER BUT ANOTHER PREVIOUS SPEAKER FROM WARD 4, THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING WE ASK OUTSIDE

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IT WOULD BE AN APPROVED LUMP SUM OF MONEY TO TO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO FOR A TIME. WHICH MR. BAKER WOULD PROJECT.

AND THEN IF WE NEEDED MORE DOLLARS, AFTER HE PROJECTED THAT AMOUNT, HE WOULD COME BACK TO US AND GET THAT AMOUNT APPROVED.

IT WOULDN'T BE EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM AN ATTORNEY HAD TO DO.

SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT IS WRITTEN.

>> THANK YOU. >> COINS PERSON STREITMANN YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I APPRECIATE THE OPENNESS OF THE SPONSOR TO CONSIDER IF IT DOES GET POSTPONED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS MAYBE SHOULD THAT POSTPONEMENT GO THROUGH WHEN WE VOTE THURSDAY NIGHT? JUST IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING NOT THIS WEEK.

I AM NOT SAYING NEXT WEEK, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF ADVANCE IN THE MEETING. MAYBE SHARE SOME OF THE RESEARCH SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT. AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND YOU THAT AS EXAMPLES TO LOOK AT. AND YOU CAN DO IT THROUGH THE CLERK, OR THROUGH THE COUNCIL, HOWEVER YOU WANTED TO DO.

THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE

BENEFICIAL TO THE CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> OWE, PLEASE SEND IT TO THE CLERK.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO WE STILL WITHIN OUR LANE.

ALL RIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? ON ORDINANCE 93? ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW READY FOR RESOLUTION 65. 2020-21 REQUESTING THE MAYOR TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION OF THE COUNCIL AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO STUDY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL PERTAINING TO THE ETHICS CODE.

>> SO AFTER OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR THE CHARTER, I THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION -- I MEAN FOR THE ETHICS CODE, DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT GETS PUSHED BACK UNTIL JULY.

SO THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT.

BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SAME TED USE PROCESS.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR ETHICS CODE IS UP TO PAR.

I THINK WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS TOMORROW -- NOT TOMORROW.

THURSDAY, WHEN WE VOTE I AM GOING TO MOTION -- I AM GOING TO MOVE TO POSTPONE IT RIGHT OFF THE RIP.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING 65.

SEEING NONE, WITH RENOW READY FOR RESOLUTION 66.

REQUESTING THE STATE OF TENNESSEE RECOGNIZE AUGUST 8TH AS A TENNESSEE STATE HOLIDAY.

COUNCIL PERSON SMITH, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

IT IS ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE TENNESSEE A STATE HOLIDAY THAT RECOGNIZE AUGUST THE 8TH. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DATE, AND THE REASON WE ARE PUSHING -- I HAVE A LOT OF SIGNATURES HERE.

AND WHAT I WILL BE DOING IS PASSING THIS OUT.

DURING THE REGULAR SESSION, BUT I HAVE PLENTY -- THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO DO THIS. THEY WANT THIS.

THIS IS HAS BEEN CELEBRATED SENSE 1871.

AND THE REASON WHY I WE WANT TO DO THIS IS TO HONOR TENNESSEE LANDMARK. A HISTORICAL TENNESSEE LANDMARK.

AND TO CELEBRATION THE FREEDOM OF SLAVES, AND TAKE THE STRESS OFF THE CITY BUDGET. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WAS ONE THING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY TO PUT OUT TO MAKE BOTH A HOLIDAY. AND WE DID VOTE ON THAT AT ONE TIME. AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE SIGNED THIS PETITION. HOWEVER, THERE ARE MORE PETITIONS OUT THERE AT DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.

AND I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING, MORE WHITE PEOPLE SIGNED THIS THAN BLACKS. AND IT MEAN I WENT TO BUSINESSES, IN THE MALL, THE OWNERS OF THE BUSINESS IN THE MALL, THEY WERE JUST HAPPY TO SIGN IT.

I WENT TO OTHER PLACES, OTHER BUSINESSES AND THEY WERE JUST SO HAPPY TO SIGN. YOUNG PEOPLE.

THEY WERE LIKE OH YEAH, YEAH. OF COURSE, YES.

ANYTHING TO DO WITH SLAVELY, I WANT TO SIGN.

AND I WAS JUST SO HAPPY. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL WHOA ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS. TAKE THE STRESS OFF THE BUDGET, AND TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE LIBERATION, AND THIS IS A HISTORICAL LANDMARK THAT THE STATE OF TENNESSEE HAS MADE.

AND WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS. AND WE ARE ALSO GETTING READY TO CELEBRATE A BIG AUGUST 8TH, WE ARE PUTTING IT TOGETHER AS WE SPEAK. AND IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY. IT GROWS FROM THE 6TH TO THE

8TH. >> COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER

QUESTION OR COMMENT? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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AND I ENCOURAGE US APPLYING PRESSURE AND SENDS OUR OPINIONS UP TO THEM, SO THAT MAY KNOW WHERE CLARKSVILLE STANDS ON THESE TYPE OF THINGS. SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

AND I AM ALSO IN SUPPORT OF IT BECAUSE THE TENACITY SHOWN BY THE SPONSOR. TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT IN OTHER WAYS. ONCE YOU -- ONCE ONE THING FAILS YOU KEEP GOING. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT. AND I ASK THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEND OUR. S UP TO STATE, SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE STAND. THANK YOU.

>> I DID SPEAK TO A LOT OF REPRESENTATIVES.

THEY ASKED ME WAS THIS A COMPETITION, AND I SAID NO, MA'AM. JOB 19TH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR HISTORY. EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AGAINST IT, AND LIKE I SAID WE JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE THE RIGHT HISTORY.

IN HONOR OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, PRESENTING THIS TO HONOR

WOMEN VETERANS. >> COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> AS A WOMAN VETERAN I AM HONORED THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WANTS TO HOB NOR WOMEN VETERANS. BUT I THINK A GOOD POINT THAT SHE MADE IS WE CELEBRATE JUNE 12TH.

SO MAYBE WE CAN PUSH THIS BACK. BECAUSE THIS IS WOMEN'S MONTH IN GENERAL, MAYBE WE CAN PUSH THIS BACK TO DOWNTHE 12TH.

>> COUNCIL PERSON KNIGHT YOU WISH TO RESPOND?

>> I CAN PROBABLY ADD THAT TO THE RESIDENT LEWIS ITSELF.

>> NO, SIR. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL PERSON REDD YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> IT MADE IT ON THERE BUT IT WAS LATE I BELIEVE.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW READY FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMB BEFORE EIGHT. DISCUSSION REGARDING MAYORS AGAINST LGBTQIA PLUS DISCRIMINATION.

YES, SO I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I CAME ACROSS THIS.

WHAT MAYORS AGAINST LGBQ DISCRIMINATION BASICALLY IS A PROMISE AND A COMMITMENT THAT MAYORS MAKE TO PROTECT THEIR LGBQI CITIZENS. I WANTED TO PUT THIS DISCUSSION ON THERE, BECAUSE OF RECENT BILLS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED.

AND BEING PASSED AT THE STATE LEVEL.

THOSE BILLS -- I MEAN I CAN NAME THEM.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF BILLS THAT ARE BLATANTLY DISCRIMINATORY WORD THE LGBQ POPULATION.

AND I JUST WANTED TO READ A LITTLE BIT FROM THIS WEBSITE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION OF WHAT IT IS.

SO MAYORS AGAINST LGBTQIA DISCRIMINATION IS A COALITION OF MUNICIPAL LEADERS INCLUSIVE NONDISCRIMINATION PROTECTIONS FOR AURAL INCLUDING LESBIAN, GAY, BY SEXUAL, TRANCE END SYSTEM UPGRADESSERS ETC., AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

WE RECOGNIZE THE SPECIAL ROLE MAYORS PLAY IN PROTECTING THE RIGHTS AND SAFETIES OF RESIDENTS AND ADVANCING POLICIES THAT MOVE OUR COMMUNITIES AND COUNTRY FORWARD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THERE.

SO URGE YOU TO STAY COMMITTED TO PROTECTING OUR LGBQ COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO THE STATE OF OUR STATE RIGHT NOW.

[02:45:01]

THAT ARE DIRECTLY HARMING OUR COMMUNITY.

COUNCIL PERSON REDD DO YOU RECOGNIZE.

>> I DON'T HAVE RESOLUTION 68 ON MY IPAD.

>> IT ISN'T A RESOLUTION. IT IS --

>> IT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM NOT A RESOLUTION.

>> OH, OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COMMENT REGARDING THIS DISCUSSION ITEM?

>> I WOULD BUT SINCE KAREN. >> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLD YOU

ARE YOU RECOGNIZED. >> OH, I AM SORRY I KEEP DOING THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. AND AS A MOTHER OF A GAY SON, IT HAS BEEN A TOUGH COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR ME PERSONALLY AS WELL. AND I AM AN ALLY.

SO WHAT IS GOING ON AT THIS STATE LEVEL IS REALLY TERRIFYING AS A MOTHER. AND SO I APPRECIATE COUNCIL PERSON FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

AND I HOPE THAT OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO UNDERSTAND THAT JIM CROW LAWS AREN'T ALWAYS USED TO ATTACK AFRICAN-AMERICANS, THIS TYPE OF LAW IS A JIM CROW LAW THAT IS -- WE ARE ACING THATTING OUR LGBQ COMMUNITY AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND IT IS TOUGH FOR A LOT OF US. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON REDD.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS SAID THAT THERE WAS SEVERAL -- OR MORE THAN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS SAID THAT THERE WAS SEVERAL DISCRIMINATORY LAWS AGAINST THE LGBQ COMMUNITY BY THE STATE. AND I JUST WONDER IF THEY WOULD BE PRESENTING THAT FOR NEXT THURSDAY? SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, OR PERHAPS EMAIL IT TO US FOR OUR

REVIEW? >> I WOULD RECOMMEND PERHAPS THE SPONSOR OF THE DISCUSSION ITEM SEND IT TO THE CLERK FOR

DISTRIBUTION. >> YES.

I WILL SEND IT SO YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE IT.

>> DOES THAT TAKE CARE OF YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

WE ARE NOW READY FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS.

[12) MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS]

>>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO STAY STATE TO THE PUBLIC, WITH THE WEATHER WARMING UP, WITH SPRING BEING HERE. WE HAVE MORE MOTORCYCLES ON THE ROAD. I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE THAT AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL.

PLEASE EVERYBODY BE MORE CAUTIOUS WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING.

MAKE SURE TO LOOK TWICE. AL IN THAT SAME LINE WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE RIDING BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS.

AND ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE POSTED SPEED LIMITS.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU MAY HAVE A CHILD THAT WILL SHOOT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE LAST THING WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IS MORE NEWS ABOUT CHILDREN ON BICYCLES BEING HURT.

WITH THE WEATHER BEING WARMER SPEND A COUPLE EXTRA SECONDS LOOKING WHERE YOU ARE GOING. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. AND I COULD HAVE JUST MISSED IT.

I DON'T KNOW. >> SO WE POSTPONED IT FOR TWO

MONTHS? >> TO MAY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> TAKE YOUR TIME. IF YOU ARE DRIVING THROUGH MY STREET, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHERE IT IS, I WILL TAKE YOUR LICENSE PLATE DOWN. I SEE YOU DRIVING FAST THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD I WILL TAKE THE LICENSE PLATE DOWN.

TWO, TODAY IS VIETNAM VETERAN'S DAY, SO TAKE THE TIME TO THANKING A VET. THANK YOU.

>> AMEN TO THAT. COUNCIL PERSON SMITH YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WOULD LICK TO SAY TO OUR SPECIALSIES, IF YOU ARE OUT IN THE EVENING PLEASE WEAR REFLECTIVE VESTS.

TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HIT, RUN OVER, JUST BECAUSE THE DRIVER DIDN'T SEE YOU. I DON'T KNOW THE PROPER NAME, BUT PUT SOMETHING ON WHERE I CAN SEE YOU.

I ALMOST HIT SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY.

I DIDN'T CLOSE TO THEM I SAW THEM, BECAUSE THEY WERE CROSSING THE ACROSS THAT HIGHWAY. AND -- SO JUST DO THAT.

AND I WANT TO THANK THE STREET DEPARTMENT FOR JUST GETTING THIS TRASH UP. AND I SAID WHAT ARE YOU DOING.

HE SAID WE ARE PICKING UP TRASH. LORD HAVE MERCY.

THANK YOU FOR A JOB WELL DONE. YOU DESERVE A MEDAL OF HONOR.

[02:50:06]

I AM GOING TO TELL THE CITIZENS TO PLEASE THROW YOUR TRASH IN THE TRASH CANS BEEN WE WORK HARD TO KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN.

AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE THROWING TRASH, I DO PRAY.

THAT YOU WILL TAKE HEED. MAKE OUR CITY LOOK BEAUTIFUL.

WE DO HAVE VISITORS COMING HERE. AND THEY ARE LOVING CLARKSVILLE.

SO LET'S KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN. >> HANG WITH ME FOR A MINUTE.

BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU.

THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEAN SUP SATURDAY APRIL THE TWENTY-FOURTH AT 8:00 A.M. AND WE INVITE YOU AS WELL AS YOU INVITE YOUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR CONSTITUENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEAN UP. IT WILL BE ORGANIZED.

WE WILL PROVIDE SUPPLIES THROUGH THAT EFFORT FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT IN GLOVES BAGS AND REFLECTIVE VESTS.

AND TO PICK UP TRASH. THERE WILL BE ASSIGNED AREAS TO DO THAT. SO WE ASK YOU TO DO THAT AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT SATURDAY APRIL 24TH AT IT A A.M.

I WILL ALSO SAY UNLESS THE GOVERNOR CHANGES HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER I HAVE NOT SEEN WHETHER HE HAS EXTENDED THAT.

OOUR VIRTUAL OPTION MAY BE EXPIRED AND WE MAY BE REQUIRED TO BE HERE IN PERSON ON THURSDAY.

WE WILL LOOK THAT UP AND SEND YOU INFORMATION.

DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION.

AND THEN FINALLY WITH ME, IT IS WITH GREET REGRET AND SADNESS THAT I ANNOUNCE THAT JEFF GOODSON IS LEAVING THE EMPLOYEE OF OUR CITY AS DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY ON MAY THE 3RD.

JEFF HAS BEEN AN ASSET TO OUR CITY, NOT JUST OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT BUT TO OUR CITY FAMILY.

WOE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR NEW ENDEAVOR.

WOE THANK YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO US.

YOU HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE. SO PLEASE, GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. [APPLAUSE]

COINS PERSON ALLEN. >> YES, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WARD EIGHT IS HAVING A COMMUNITY YARD SALE.

ON SATURDAY. BETWEEN 8:00 A.M. AND 12:00 P.M.

WE WILL HAVE SOME VISITORS COME. ANYBODY IS WELCOME TO VISIT.

MY CONSTITUENTS AND -- COME BY SOME STUFF.

>> PARTICULAR LA CIRCLE. >> ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL PERSON

SMITH? >> MAYOR I HAD SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO SAY. FORGET IT THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, WE STAND ADJOURNED, SEE YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.