[1) CALL TO ORDER]
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>> THE APRIL 1ST, 2021, REGULAR SESSION OF THE CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. COUNCILPERSON LITTLE WILL SERVE AS OUR CHAPLAIN OF THE DAY. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND COUNCILPERSON LITTLE.
>> I WILL BE DOING THE LORD'S PRAYER SO EVERYONE CAN JOIN IN IF YOU WANT. OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THEY THY DONE. GIVE US THIS DAY AND OUR DAILY BREAD AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US.
THINE IS THE KINGDOM, THE POWER AND THE GLORY FOREVER.
AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MADAM CLERK PLEASE TAKE
>> MAYOR PITTS. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE ELECTRONIC MEETING.
IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER REGARDING HOLDING OPEN MEETINGS IN A FORUM OTHER THAN IN THE OPEN AND IN PUBLIC, THIS GOVERNING BODY DETERMINES THAT MEETING ELECTRONICALLY IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF ITS CITIZENS DUE TO THE COVID-19 OUTBREAK.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTIONA SECOND AND SECOND.
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. >> DO I HEAR A SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS? YOU READY TO VOTE?
[6) SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS]
JUDGE AYE. >> NEXT WE HAVE THREE VERY SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. I'M GOING TO INVITE COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT TO JOIN ME IN THE WELL.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT ASKED ME TO PREPARE RECOGNITION FOR A VERY, VERY SPECIAL CITIZEN IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M GOING TO INVITE COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT TO INVITE OUR GUEST UP AND LET YOU DESCRIBE AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HER.
JENNIFER IF YOU WILL. AND CADEN AND ADRIAN.
ALL RIGHT. SO, NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW.
THIS IS JENNY AKA JENNY SAVAGE. BUT HER REAL NAME IS JENNIFER GLASSIUS. CLARKSVILLE'S FIRST MMA, I WILL LET YOU GO AHEAD. SO
SORRY, IT'S PRETTY NEW. >> I'M CLARKSVILLE'S FIRST FEMALE CHAMPIONSHIP. MY CHAMPIONSHIP I HAD ONE AT THE WILMER RUDOLPH CENTER JUST TWO YEARS AGO AND NOW I'M TENNESSEE'S FIRST BARE KNUCKLE FIGHTER FROM BKFC.
THE UFC VERSION OF BARE KNUCKLE FIGHTING.
THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH MAYOR.
>> SHE IS THE STRONGEST, TOUGHEST YOUNG LADY I KNOW.
I TELL YOU. SO BESIDES OF THAT, AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN REPRESENTING CLARKS HAVING SO WELL, I REQUESTED FROM THE MAYOR TO GIVE YOU A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR YOUR SERVICE TO CLARKSVILLE.
>> AND WE WILL NOT ASK YOU TO DO TWO OR THREE ROUNDS WITH HER IF IT'S OKAY. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE COULD ALL TRY TO TEAM UP ON HER AND NOT DO IT. TO JENNIFER, THANK YOU FOR BEING
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HERE. CADEN.THANK YOU FOR BRINGING MOM. AND THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION FROM OUR CITY. JUST RECOGNIZING YOU FOR SO MUCH THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO PUT OUR CITY ON THE MAP AND ALSO THE SUCCESS YOU'VE HAD. IT'S MY HONOR AND CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE] THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS TO SOMEONE WHO IS NO STRANGER TO THESE CHAMBERS. DEANNA MCLOUGHLIN.
I WILL LET YOU DESCRIBE YOUR ROLE.
I FIRST WANT TO TELL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS MONTH, THE FIRST DAY OF APRIL, SOME SOMEBODY ALREADY GOT ME ON APRIL FOOL'S DAY. THIS IS THE MONTH OF THE MILITARY CHILD. AND SO IF YOU WOULD TELL US ABOUT YOUR ROLE AND ALSO THE MONTH OF THE MILITARY CHILD.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. MY NAME IS DEANNA MCLOUGHLIN, THE TENNESSEE COMMISSIONER TO THE MILITARY INTERSTATE CHILDREN'S COMPACT. MY ROLE IS TO HELP FACILITATE EDUCATIONAL TRANSFERS FOR MILITARY CHILDREN IN AND OUT OF TENNESSEE TO GET CREDIT OF THE COURSES THEY TOOK TO THE RECEIVING SCHOOL. AS A MILITARY COMMUNITY.
WE KNOW HOW MANY TIMES, KIDS K-12 TRANSFER SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THEIR SERVICE TO THEIR PARENTS. UP TO SIX TIMES IN THE SHORT SPAN OF THEIR LIFE. MY JOB IS TO PROMOTE MILITARY CHILDREN, CAUSES AND EDUCATIONAL ISSUES IN THE STATE OF TENNESSEE. SO PURPLE, THE MONTH OF APRIL IS MONTH OF THE MILITARY CHILD, AND THE COLOR IS PURPLE.
SO PEOPLE WEAR PURPLE TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT OF MILITARY CHILDREN. IT'S THE COMBINED COLOR OF THE BRANCHES OF THE MILITARY SERVICE.
IF YOU MIX THEM ALTOGETHER, YOU GET THE COLOR PURPLE.
>> SO IT IS MY HONOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY TO PROCLAIM APRIL 2021 AS THE MONTH OF THE MILITARY CHILD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE DEANNA. GOD BLESS YOU.
[APPLAUSE] NOW I'M GOING TO ASK MR. BAKER IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN THE WELL AND MR. GOODSON.
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YOU KNOW AT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON MONDAY EVENING, WE ANNOUNCED THAT JEFF GOODSON IS LEAVING THE EMPLOYEE CITY FAMILY AT THE FIRST PART OF MAY.
JEFF HAS SERVED US NOBLY AS PART OF THE LEGAL TEAM OF THIS CITY VERY WELL, AND HE WILL DEFINITELY BE MISSED.
AND SO IT'S OUR HONOR JEFF, TO PRESENT TO YOU IN THE FAMILY A CERTIFICATE OF FARE WELL. THIS IS NOT GOOD BYE.
JUST FARE WELL FOR NOW AND TO YOUR FAMILY.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, INTRODUCE YOUR FAMILY HERE AND I WILL GIVE IT TO LANCE AND YOU KNOW IT WILL TAKE A WHILE WITH LANCE.
>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS MY DAUGHTER COLLINS ROSE. WE CALL HER COCOA BEAR.
SHE IS THREE YEARS OLD. THIS IS HER BIG SISTER BEVERLY KATE AND THIS IS MY WIFE CRYSTAL WHO SUPPORTS ME 100%.
>> YOU ARE BLESSED SIR. >> LANCE.
>> SO, JEFF, AS YOU ALL KNOW, CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY, HE IS TRULY JUST A REALLY FINE PERSON. A WONDERFUL PERSON.
I CAN'T, I LITERALLY CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT HIM AND THAT'S A BIG TALL ORDER FOR ME TO SAY I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT HIM. JEFF IS TRULY THE MOST
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OUTSTANDING LAWYER AND I MEAN THIS IN ALL SINCERITY THAT I HAVE EVER KNOWN OR SERVED WITH OR AGAINST.HE IS AN EXCELLENT LEGAL RESEARCHER, LEGAL WRITER, AND LEGAL ANALYST. HE HAS WON CASE AFTER CASE AFTER CASE FOR THE CITY IN LAWSUITS. HE HAS GIVEN THE MOST OUTSTANDING LEGAL ADVICE TO PREVENT MANY LAWSUITS.
I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HIM.
I LOVE HIM LIKE A BROTHER. HE IS GOING TO BE, IT'S A HUGE LOSS TO OUR CITY. HE HAS WORKED FOR THE CITY NOW 12 -- NEARLY 10 YEARS. NEARLY 10 YEARS.
SO, WE -- AND NO TAXPAYER EXPENSE WE THOUGHT TO GET HIM SOME GOING AWAY PRESENTS. I WILL TELL YOU THINGS ABOUT JEFF. HUGE RICK PLAYER FAN.
SO, SHOW US THE RICK FLAIR MOVE WITH COCOA BEAR.
AND THAT'S, WE GOT THAT NATURE BOY STRUT ON THE TAPE NOW.
SO, WE HAVE GOT SOME RICK FLAIR NATURE BOY SOCKS COMING.
ONE OF JEFF'S FAVORITE THINGS IS TO WEAR FANCY KIND OF COLORED SOCKS. HERE'S A STAND IN, YOU CAN HAVE THOSE TOO. HE'S ALSO A BIT PATRIOT.
THE NATURE BOY SOCKS ARE COMING. A LITTLE SOMETHING ELSE.
MARK, CAN GUBACK THERE AND OPEN THE BEHIND DOOR NUMBER ONE.
HE DESERVES A WWE CHAMPIONSHIP BELT.
JEFF IS A BIG FISHERMAN. HE LOVES TO FISH.
IF YOU WILL BRING THE FISHING POLE OUT.
AND THE LITTLE SMALL BOX. AND THE BAG.
THERE'S A SMALL BOX AND A BAG TOO.
BRING ME THAT. SO, ONE OF HIS FAVORITE PAST TIMES IS TO BE A FISHERMAN. IF YOU CAN BRING THAT TO ME.
JUST HOLD ON. SO, WE GOT JEFF A TOP OF THE LINE FISHING POLE, ROD AND REEL AND HE CAN TEACH HIS GIRLS.
TAKE THEM FISHING AND WE HAVE HERE, SOME HIGH STRENGTH TEST LINE FOR THOSE REALLY BIG ONES AND OF COURSE HAD HE TELLS THE TALES OF THE ONES HE CATCHES, THEY'RE A LOT BIGGER THAN WHAT THEY PROBABLY ARE. HERE'S A BOX, A GIFT LIKE A GRAB BACK TACKLE BOX OF THE MOTHER LOAD FISHING CRATE OF LURES AND TACKLE AND JEFF LOOKS TO GO TO FLORIDA WITH HIS FAMILY ON VACATION AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH HIM IN THE OFFICE WE HAVE OFTEN HEARD THE STORIES ABOUT HOW WHOA IS ME.
I HAVE TO HAUL ALL THE BEACH CHAIRS AND TOYS DOWN TO THE BEACH AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING TO RELAX.
WE THOUGHT THE EASY TREAD OUT DOOR CART WITH BEACH WHEELS WOULD DO HIM SOME GOOD. AND EVEN NO HE'S NOT RETIRING, HE IS LEAVING THE CITY, SO, MIGHT COULD USE ONE MORE THING.
JEFF IS A BIG EATER AND A BIG GRILLER AND COOKER.
SO THE LAST THING, CAN YOU HELP ME MARK? SO EVERY OUTDOOR GRILL'S PERSONS DREAM THE LARGE, THE EXTRA LARGE SIZE 36 INCH GRIDDLE COOKING STATION CALLED THE BLACK STONE.
WE KNOW JEFF, HIS WIFE AND GIRLS WILL BE DOING A GREAT EATING IN THE YEARS TO COME. JEFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY. YOU WILL BE MISSED.
WHAT HONORS, I TELL YOU. AND MARK, CAN YOU HELP ME HAUL
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THIS STUFF TO THE CAR? IF YOU GET HURT ON THE JOB, IT'S NOT OJI. ALL I CAN SAY IS THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHAT AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE.I THANK THE CITY ALSO FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HERE FOR NEARLY A DECADE. IT'S BENEFITTED ME GREATLY AND I HOPE AND GRAY IT'S BEEN MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
AND I WISH YOU GOD SPEED. AND HIS GUIDANCE GOING FORWARD.
GET A PICTURE. THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
>> THERE WILL BE A COOK OUT AT JEFF'S HOUSE FRIDAY EVENING.
[7) PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING]
OKAY. WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING.COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
MADAM CLERK WOULD YOU READ THE ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS.
>> ORDINANCE 84-2020-21. FIRST READING.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF REDIA HOME BUILDINGS, AGENT.
INTERSECTION OF TWIN RIVERS ROAD AND NOLEN ROAD FROM R 1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R 4, MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 85-2020-21.
FIRST READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF REDA HOME BUILDERS INCORPORATED AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT EASTERN TERMINUS OF THE SOUTHERN CIRCLE HILL DRIVE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND AT THE NORTH FRONTAGE OF CAVE SPRINGS ROAD IT FROM R 1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO R 6, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 86-2020-21. AMENDING THE ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF THE ESTATE OF FR FROOT -- FRANK WOOTEN.
FROM R 3, 3 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL TO R 6.
APPLICATION OF COLBY HOMES LLC. ROBERT COLBY FOR ZONE CHANGE TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT INTERSECTION OF PETERS MILL ROAD FROM R2 D TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R 4, MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 88-2020-21.
FIRST READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF BLACK HAWK LAND BETTER SINGLETARY DEVELOPMENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON INTERSECTION OF THE PEACHERS MILL ROAD AND HENRY PLACE FROM R 2 TO C 5 HIGHWAY AND ARTERIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 89-2020-21. AMENDING THE ZONING OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, MRKSZ OF JONATHAN BLICK, FOR EAST FRONTAGE OF NORTH FORD STREET FROM M 2 GENERAL INDUSTRIAL TO R FOUR, MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 90-2020-21. FIRST READING.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF
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CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF CUMBERLAND RADIO PARTNERSHIP INCORP RATED. CHRIS BLACKWELL AGENT FOR CHANGE ON EAST FRONTAGE OF MARTIN SOUTH OF CROSSTON AVENUE FROM R 3, 3 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-FOUR MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT.>> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. >> THANK YOU.
MADAM CLERK. MAY I MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MOTION MADE TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING.
>> PROPERLY SECONDED. WE ARE IN PUBLIC HEARING.
FIRST ITEM IS ORDINANCE 84. 2020-21.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF REDA HOME BUILDERS OF THERE HAS BEEN NO REQUEST TO SPEAK FOR AND NO REQUEST TO SPEAK AGAINST.
ORDINANCE 84. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, DID YOU
>> THIS ORDINANCE. IN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. >> SORRY.
NEXT ITEM, TWO, ORDINANCE 85-2020-21.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP APPLICATION OF REDA HOME BUILDERS, THERE'S BEEN NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR AND NO ONE TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 85.
ITEM THREE, ORDINANCE 86-2020-21.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF FRANK WOOTEN. LINDA ROBERTS, NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR AND NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 86.
ITEM FOUR, ORDINANCE 87. 2020-21.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF COLBY HOMES LLC.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR AND NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 87. ITEM FIVE, ORDINANCE 88-2020-21.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF BLACK HAWK LAND.
BURT SINGLE -- SINGLETARY AND REX HAWKIN SAYS.
>> REX HAWKINS, 1865 OLD TRENTON ROAD.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JUST ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL
AND GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> MR. HAWKINS, COULD YOU ASK YOU TO TAKE YOUR MASK OFF SO IT'S NOT MUFFLED.
>> I'M SORRY. DO I NEED TO START OVER.
>> REX HAWKINS. 1865 OLD TRENTON ROAD.
CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE. GOOD EVENING.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS ZONING CASE AND GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU MR. HAWKINS. ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. HAWKINS. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> YES, SIR, I WAS WONDERING, I KNOW IT'S NOT CONDITIONAL OF APPROVAL, BUT DO YOU ALREADY HAVE A PLAN OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THERE? WE DON'T AT THIS TIME. IT'S JUST A ROAD FRONTAGE THAT BORDERS OF PEACHES MILL ROAD THERE.
IT WOULD DEFINITELY COMPLY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN A DEVELOPMENT BEHIND AND BENEFIT THEM BUT WE DO NOT HAVE EXACT
ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE QUESTION? COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED
>> MR. HAWKINS, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE SHARED WITH US.
WILL THIS HELP TO BETTER SELL THE LAND IF YOU DO ZONE CHANGE
ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? >> YES, MA'AM.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE, BECAUSE IT'S RESIDENTIAL ON BEHIND IT AND ZONED RESIDENTIAL NOW.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE BENEFICIAL THAT CLOSE
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE
A QUESTION FOR MR. HAWKINS. >> THANK YOU.
ALSO BURT SINGLETARY WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT.
THERE'S BEEN NO ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
89-2020-21. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF JONATHAN BLICK. THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ORDINANCE 89.
ITEM SEVEN. ORDINANCE 90-2020-21.
APPLICATION OF CUMBERLAND RADIO PARTNERSHIP.
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THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR ORDINANCE 90.THERE ARE THREE THAT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ORDINANCE 90. THE FIRST NAME ON THE LIST IS MYRTHA MCKINNEY. MISS MCKINNEY.
OKAY, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU WILL APPROACH THE COMPUTER AND THE MICROPHONE, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE FIVE
MINUTES. >> I LIVE AT 912 MARTIN STREET APARTMENT TWO. I AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THE MARTIN STREET AREA FROM R 3 TO R 4 BASED ON REASONS THAT IT WOULD INCREASE THE TRAFFIC FLOW ON THAT STREET TO A DANGEROUS LEVEL, THE AREA IS UNDER DEVELOPED.
AND THE HILLS MAKE IT DANGEROUS FOR EITHER WAY ON GOING TRAFFIC COMING UP THE HILL. ON GOING DOWN THE HILL.
THERE ARE 60 HOUSES CURRENTLY IN MARTIN STREET.
ELDERLY PEOPLE, A DEAF PERSON AND A BLIND PERSON WHICH IS MY SON. THERE WAS NO SIDEWALKS OR SHOULDERS ON THAT STREET. IT'S ABOUT 22 FEET WIDE IN SOME AREAS AND SOME ONLY 16 FEET. COMING OUT OF DRIVEWAYS, YOU CAN'T SEE TRAFFIC COMING UP THE HILL AND PRESENTS A LOT OF DANGER FOR THE AREA. I THINK THAT INCREASED TRAFFIC FLOW FROM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND MORE PEOPLE IN THE AREA WILL JUST CREATE A HIGH-RISK AND DANGEROUS PLACE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING THERE.
CHILDREN GET OFF THE BUS DOWN THE HILL AT CROSS LAND AND MARTIN STREET THEY HAVE TO WALK UP THE HILLS TO GO -- TO GET TO THEIR HOMES. THE HILLS MAKE THE CARS SPEEDUP.
YOU HAVE TO SPEEDUP GOING UP THE HILL AND USE INCREASED SPEED COMING DOWN THE HILL AND IT'S VERY DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA. I THINK THIS INCREASED TRAFFIC WOULD MAKE IT WORSE FLOW. THERE'S NO OUTLET.
IT'S DEAD END STREET AND THERE'S NO OUTLET OTHER THAN MARTIN STREET. I THINK IT WILL MAKE THE TRAFFIC FLOW SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS AND INCREASE RISK FOR THE RESIDENTS
THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE. >> THANK YOU MS. MCKINNEY.
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. MCKINNEY.
>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM FOR SHARING YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS STREET.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED >> SINCE 2015.
>> OKAY. YOU HAVE CHILDREN THAT RIDE THE
SCHOOL BUS OR YOU HAVE CHILDREN. >> NO , I HAVE A LEGALLY BLIND SON. HE WALKS UP AND DOWN THAT STREET. HE HAS TO WALK ON THE EDGE BECAUSE HE CAN'T SEE. HE HAS TO WALK THE EDGE AND KIND OF PUT HIS FEET CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE STREET IN ORDER TO TRAVERSE MARTIN STREET. I HAVE WATCHED SCHOOLCHILDREN COME UP THAT HILL AND I HAVE WATCHED SOME DANGEROUS SITUATIONS, I EVEN HAD A DANGEROUS SITUATION MYSELF ALMOST HITTING A CHILD COMING UP THE HILL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEM. IT REALLY INCREASES THE DANGER AND THERE'S NO STORES CLOSE BY. PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO GO FURTHER FOR MEDICINE AND CLOTHING. THAT THE INCREASE THE TIME WITH ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX FOR PEOPLE GOING UP AND DOWN THAT HILL. IT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE IT YOU KNOW BEYOND WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
>> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS.
I HEARD YOU SAY IT'S A DEAD END STREET.
THERES NO OUTLET. DEAD ENDS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL AND YOU CREST THE HILL. THERE'S NO OUTLET.
>> IT'S JUST STRAIGHT BACK. >> HAS THERE BEEN TROUBLE WITH FIRE TRUCKS GOING DOWN IN THE AREA?
>> YES THE FIRE TRUCKS COME THROUGH THERE, SOMETIMES I EVEN HAD TO HAVE A CAR TOWED. IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR THE BIG TRUCK TO GET INTO THE DRIVEWAY TO PICK UP THE CAR AND TOW IT AWAY. BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT, YOU KNOW IT'S JUST DANGEROUS. THERE'S UNDEVELOPED AREAS WHERE
COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. YOU WISH TO ASK MS. MCKINNEY
>> THANK YOU MS. MCKINNEY TO COME OUT TO TALK TO US TODAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> MY QUESTION FOR YOU, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND THAT AREA DO A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO CATCH THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION?
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>> YES. WHERE IS THE CLOSEST BUS STOP?
>> DO YOU KNOW? >> ALL THE WAY DOWN THE HILL AT
CROSSLAND. >> OKAY SO THAT MEANS EVERYBODY THAT CATCHES THE BUS FROM MARTIN STREET HADS TO WALK UP THE HILL.
GET TO THE BUS STOP IN SOME WAY WITHOUT SIDEWALKS ON A
>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. MCKINNEY.
SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT ON OUR LIST IS DAVID ARRINGTON.
IF YOU'RE THERE, PLEASE APPROACH THE COMPUTER.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE AND YOU HAVE FIVE
MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS DAVIDARING TON.
I LIVE AT 931 MARTIN STREET. CLARKSVILLE.
I AM OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM R 3 TO R 4.
BASED SOLELY ON THE FACT THAT THE ROADWAY CANNOT HANDLE DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD.
I AM ALSO NOT ONLY A RESIDENT BUT I ALSO OWN THE PROPERTY ON MARTIN STREET SO I SEE FIRST HAND ON A DAILY BASIS THE PROBLEMS THAT THE ROADWAY CREATES.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. ARRINGTON.
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. ARRINGTON?
>> MR. ARRINGTON. YOU SAID YOU OWNED A PROPERTY.
THE RADIO STATION OR YOUR PERSONAL RESIDENCE.
CAN YOU CLARIFY WHEN YOU SAY I OWN THE PROPERTY.
>> I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.
>> I'M SORRY SIR. YOU SAID I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY
I OWN THE PROPERTY. >> I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 931 MARTIN STREET. AND I AM ALSO A RESIDENT AT THAT
SO WE'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT THE ADDRESS OF THE RADIO, THE STATION THERE THAT WE SAW A PICTURE OF.
>> NO. >> THANK YOU MR. ARRINGTON.
>> THANK YOU. FOR CLARIFICATION.
>> COUNCILPERSON LITTLE. YOU HAD A QUESTION.
>> MR. ARRINGTON. THANK YOU FOR TELLING US ALL THAT. WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE ON YOUR STREET. DO YOU STILL EXPERIENCE PEOPLE FLYING UP AND DOWN THAT NARROW ROAD?
>> AGAIN I APOLOGIZE, MY HEARING IS NOT THE BEST AND IT ECHOS IN
HERE. >> LET ME ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SPEAK CLOSER TO THEIR MICROPHONE.
WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVING ON THAT ROAD AND KNOWING HOW NARROW MARTIN STREET IS, DO YOU STILL EXPERIENCE SPEEDERS GOING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD?
>> NO, SIR. I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT IN THE MAJORITY OF THE ROAD, THERE'S BARELY ENOUGH ROOM FOR TWO CARS TO PASS SIDE BY SIDE.
I ACTUALLY HAD AN ACCIDENT ON THAT ROAD WHERE SOMEBODY RAN INTO ME. TRULY ACCIDENT.
BUT IT WAS PARTIALLY CAUSED BY HOW NARROW THE ROAD IS.
ANYBODY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. ARRINGTON? SEEING NONE. HEARING NONE.
WE ARE READY TO HEAR FROM THE THIRD PERSON TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ORDINANCE 90, MR. BENNY SKINNER.
MR. SKINNER. >> IF YOU WOULD PLEASE APPROACH THE COMPUTER, THE MICROPHONE. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS
AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.
MY NAME IS BENNY SKINNER. I LIVE AT 355 SAILOR RIDGE ROAD CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER ON MARTIN STREET AND HAVE BEEN ASKED BY SEVERAL RESIDENTS TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS REZONING. MARTIN STREET IS PART OF THE SMITH AND LURTON SUBDIVISION. THIS WAS ONE OF FIRST SUBDIVISIONS PLATTED IN CLARKSVILLE.
IT WAS DESIGNED FOR MEDIUM POPULATION DENSITY.
THE STREET IS CURRENTLY MADE UP OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES AND A FEW QUAD PLEXES.
HAS FEWER THAN 60 HOUSES AND APARTMENT UNITS COMBINED.
REZONING THIS FOUR ACRE SITE TO R 4, HAS A POTENTIAL TO ADD OVER 60 APARTMENT UNITS. THUS DOUBLING THE POPULATION DENSITY FOR MARTIN STREET. TRAFFIC IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN AND DISRUPTING THE POPULATION DENSITY IS SECOND.
MARTIN STREET IS NARROW. A LITTLE MORE THAN 16 FOOT WIDE IN PLACES. THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
THERE ARE NO SHOULDERS. CURB AND GUTTER ONLY AT THE
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BEGINNING OF THE STREET. VEHICLES ARE OFTEN PARKED ON THE STREET BECAUSE SOME RESIDENTIAL DRIVESES ONLY ALLOW FOR ONE VEHICLE. IT'S A DEAD END STREET WITH NO TURN AROUND FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.MARTIN STREET HAS HILLS CAUSING SIGHT DISTANCE TO ALSO BE A CONCERN. CHILDREN MUST WALK TO CROSS AN AVENUE TO CATCH A BUS BECAUSE THERE'S NO TURN AROUND AT THE END OF THE STREET. I SERVED ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR A TOTAL OF 20 YEARS.
WHEN I STARTED VOTING ON ZONING. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD A PHRASE WHEN IT CAME TO REZONING PROPERTY.
DON'T LET THE HORSE OUT OF THE BARN UNLESS YOU HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THE AREA THEY LIVE IN. MY POINT IS, INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD BE IN PLACE FIRST BEFORE THE REZONING IS GRANTED.
TURN AROUND FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
THESE UPGRADES SOMETIMES CANNOT BE ENFORCED DURING SITE PLAN REVIEW. BUT PROJECTS CAN GO FORWARD BECAUSE THE ZONING IS NOW IN PLACE.
UNDER THE CURRENT R 3 ZONING, TRIPLEXES CAN BE BUILT EASILY ADDING 30 APARTMENT UNITS. THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON MARTIN STREET FEEL ADDING 30 APARTMENTS IS BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN 60. THE CURRENT R 3 ZONE IS NOT DENYING THE PROPERTY OWNER REASONABLE USE OF THE LAND.
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU THAT DENY THIS R 4 REQUEST.
THANK YOU MR. SKINNER. ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SKINNER? SEEING NONE.
THANK YOU SIR. THAT COMPLETES THE ITEMS IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
MAYOR, I MOVE WE GO BACK TO REGULAR SESSION.
>> VOTED AND SECONDED TO REVERT TO REGULAR SESSION.
WE ARE NOW IN REGULAR SESSION. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
>> AS A REMINDER, ALL MOTIONS SHOULD BE FOR APPROVAL.
ORDINANCE 84-2020-21. BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 84.
COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. >> YES.
THANK YOU. THIS PROPERTY IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BACKGROUND. APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY DENIED IN SAME REQUEST TO PUT 60 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY. I DROVE NOLEN ROAD.
ON THE END OF THE ROAD IS A CEMENT FACTORY.
AT THE CORNER, AT -- IT JOINS TO OLD TRENTON AND SO NOLEN ROAD AND OLD TRENTON JOINS TOGETHER AND WE ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OLD TRENTON AND ADDING APARTMENTS.
OLD TRENTON WILL BECOME VERY BUSY AND THAT CORNER IS ALREADY I CALL IS THE CRAZY CORNER BECAUSE IT IS ONE THAT I SHOULD USE WHEN I GO HOME BUT BYPASS BECAUSE I DON'T APPRECIATE ONE WAY YOU DON'T STOP, ANOTHER WAY YOU DO STOP.
AND IT'S JUST ACCIDENTS WAITING TO HAPPEN.
SO THAT CORNER IS ALREADY BUSY. THE NEIGHBORS DO NOT WANT IT.
THE ROAD IS NARROW. AND WE DO NOT HAVE IT IN OUR PROJECT TO WIDEN THE ROAD. SO I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS. AND I WOULD IN THE FUTURE CONSIDER A DENSER ZONING, ADDING 64 UNITS TO THE PROPERTY ON A ROAD THAT'S TOO NARROW, THAT COMES TO THE CORNER OF A BUSY OLD TRENTON ROAD WE'RE ALREADY BUILDING ON IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.
COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED.
>> THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT AND WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENTS. HE WAS USED TO THE OLD SYSTEM WHERE THEY COULD COME INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD TO NOTIFY MISS SKINNER AND ADDRESS CONCERNS.
SO SOME OF THE ONES THAT HE JUST WANTED ME TO MAKE THE COUNCIL AWARE OF. THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, HE OWNS THE CONCRETE, OR THERE'S A CONCRETE PLANT THAT BUTTS UP TO THE PROPERTY. THE WHOLE EAST SIDE HAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NEXT TO IT. HE'S LOOKING TO BUILD, THE AREA IS PERFECT FOR CONDOMINIUM. THERE'S A ONE CAR GARAGE ATTACHED TO EACH UNIT AND 1100 SQUARE FEET ALSO ONE CAR
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GARAGES. I KIND OF GET WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING. IT'S NOT SPOT ZONING.THERE'S ALREADY APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITHIN THE AREA.
SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN AND TO KIND OF PERMIT OTHERS TO DEVELOP APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA, THEN KIND OF TURN DOWN THIS ZONING REQUEST, CAN BE LOOKED AT SOMEWHAT IN A BIASSED MANNER. IT'S ALL OVER THERE.
WE HAVE APPROVED OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND TO TURN THIS ONE DOWN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TO SAY, TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE END UP REZONING THINGS.
TRAFFIC INCREASE IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
YOU KNOW LOOK AT TONIGHT. ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE AGAINST.
I ASK MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. >> I THINK OUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER, I MIGHT HAVE MISHEARD, TWO YEARS AGO THIS WAS DENIED.
I REMEMBER SAYING TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS --
>> I WOULD YOU'RE REFERRING TO COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.
>> I'M SORRY. I KNOW IT WAS DENIED IN THE PAST AND A RESIDENT TOLD ME TWO YEARS AGO.
SO PLEASE, IF MR. TINDEL SAID THAT.
I WAS WONDERING IF THEY WERE TWO DENIALS I DIDN'T
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.
COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
THE IS IT -- IS IT 46 OR 86 UNITS THAT WILL BE BUILT?
>> HOW MANY UNITS WILL BE BUILT. >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THE QUESTION. >> I THOUGHT I HEARD THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAY 80 SOMETHING.
>> IF YOU WILL SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE.
I THOUGHT I HEARD HER SAY 80 SOMETHING.
I HAD DOWN 46 UNITS. I MIGHT BE THAT'S THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE 84?
>> SEEING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
MADAM CLERK. >> TAKE THE VOTE.
>> MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE HAD REQUESTED WE ROTATE THE
BOUNCE AROUND. >> IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I WILL START WITH WARD TWO. ANY OBJECTION TO ROTATING THE VOTE? I
>> WE'LL START WITH YOU THIS TIME AND THE TIME WE WILL START WITH WARD TWO AND WORK OUR WAY AROUND AND YOU WILL BE LAST.
THEN WE'LL -- >> YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> HOLD ON MADAM CLERK. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
COUNCILPERSON SMITH. >> MAYOR, ROTATING DON'T WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THIS GOES WELL.
I THINK I'M GOING TO GET CONFUSED.
>> JUST FOLLOW THE CLERK. >> WAIT A MINUTE.
>> JUST FOLLOW THE CLERK. >> I WAS FOLLOWING YOU THE LAST
TIME. >> SEE, THAT WAS YOUR MISTAKE.
>> NO HARM. I'M JUST SAYING, I WANT TO KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH WARD ONE AND THE NEXT TIME START
HERE. >> JUST FOLLOW THE BOUNCING
BALL. >> FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER SUBDIVISION. COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> WE JUST WANT TO PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND RATI RATI RATIONALLY, TO GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING IN THE SAME ORDER.
IF WE WERE ON THE BOARD, THIS WOULD BE A MOOT POINT.
SINCE WE'RE DOING ROLL CALL. >> CLARIFICATION.
>> THIS BOARD HERE. ON WHAT BOARD?
>> THIS BOARD. >> WHERE IT SHOWS UP.
>> GOT YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR. I THOUGHT YOU MEANT A COMMITTEE.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> THANK YOU.
WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.
>> AS THE PERSON BESIDES THE MAYOR WHO ALSO VOTES LAST.
I LOVE THIS. TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, IT KEEPS US HONEST. IT HAS THE PROPENSITY TO KEEP US
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HONEST. THANK YOU.>> NOT DRAWNING INFERENCE WE'RE NOT HONEST I HOPE.
COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
I UNDERSTAND THE MENTALITY. IF WE'RE VOTING FOR SOMEONE AND ALL OF Y'ALL VOTE ONE WAY, MIGHT INFLUENCE PEOPLE TO VOTE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION BASED ON THE PREVIOUS VOTE IN VOTING ORDER IF
>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH. YOU HAD A QUESTION.
>> DOES THIS FOLLOW THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER?
>> IS THIS AN ORDER? WE CAN DO THIS?
>> NOT A PROBLEM. >> ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT. CAN WE JUST VOTE
>> WHATEVER THE ORDER. >> OKAY.
FOLLOW THE CLERK. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE
SEVEN NO. >> ORDINANCE 84 FAILS.
>> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. >> ALL RIGHT.
ORDINANCE 85-2020-21. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR DISAPPROVAL AND THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR APPROVAL
>> MOTION BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 85. ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT ORDINANCE 85. MR. REDD.
>> I RECEIVED E-MAIL TODAY FROM A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND THEY WERE ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THEY WERE SAYING THAT THE ROAD WOULD HAVE TO BE WIDENED THERE ON CIRCLE HILL DRIVE AND IT WOULD ENCROACH OR TAKE SOME OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO I WOULD HAVE TO ASK ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DON'T RECALL IF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING, I DON'T THINK THE CITY HAS A PLAN TO ENCROACH OR WIDEN THE ROAD THERE. THEY HAD A CONCERN I THINK ABOUT THE APARTMENTS WERE GOING TO BE PUT THERE BUT AS I UNDERSTAND, THESE WILL BE THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOUSES.
AND THE SIGNAGE I GUESS IT COMES FROM THE RPC.
THEY HAD A CONCERN THAT YOU KNOW WHEREVER THEY WANT TO ZONE SOMETHING AND HALF OF THE SIGN YOU COULDN'T SEE AND OF COURSE I THINK IT WAS INSIDE THE GATE DOWN WHERE THE ACTUAL PROPERTY IS. AND BUT, THEY WERE KIND OF REQUESTED AND IF IT COULD BE THE SIGN WOULD GO AT THE BEGINNING OF A ROAD TO SAY THERE'S ANOTHER SIGN THERE WHERE THEY CAN SEE IT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ENCROACH IN ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND WIDEN THE ROAD AND IN FACT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE
HOUSES AND NOT APARTMENTS. >> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON REDD.
COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
MR. TINDEL IS ON THE LINE, IS THAT CORRECT, MAYOR.
>> I BELIEVE HE IS. >> OR REPRESENTATIVE.
>> I BELIEVE MR. TINDEL IS ON THE LINE.
MY QUESTION IS THAT THIS WAS THE AREA THAT HAD STEEP AND SOME AREAS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE BUILT ON AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE INCREASING THE DENSITY. IF WE GO TO R 6 THEY HAVE TO PUT SIDEWALK AND GREEN SPACE INSIDE OF THIS.
>> WE WILL HAVE TO GO OUT OF SESSION TO HEAR FROM MR. TINDEL.
ANY OBJECTION FROM HEARING MR. TINDEL JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I SEE NONE.
MR. TINDEL, CAN THE ANSWER THE QUESTION FROM COUNCILPERSON
R 6 IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE WHEN SOMEONE DEVELOPS AN R 6 LOT, THEY HAVE TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THE UNITS.
UP TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT OF WHETHER OR NOT WIDENING AND CURB GOES ALONG WITH THAT. THE ORDINANCE DOES SAY THAT SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED IN FRONT OF THE UNITS WHEN YOU DEVELOP R 6
HOUSES. >> THANK YOU MR. TINDEL.
>> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
WE ARE NOW BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.
COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST WANT TO SHARE BACKGROUND FROM THE APPLICANT. R 6 ZONING IS NOT APARTMENTS.
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HE LIKES TO THINK OF R 6 ZONING IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'RE NOT DOING DEVELOPMENTS ON ANY APARTMENTS. THEY ARE JUST CREATING NEW LOTS TO ASSIST HOMEOWNERS WITH AFFORDABLE HOMES.1100 SQUARE FOOT. THREE BEDROOMS AND TWO-AND-A-HALF BATHS. VALUE $180,000 TO NEW HOME BUYERS. THIS IS $163 A FOOT SALES PRICE AND WILL BOOST HOME VALUES IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT WILL ALSO START TURNING THE RENTAL ASPECT BACK OVER TO LANDOWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SEE A 60% HOME OWNERSHIP AND ONLY 40% RENTAL IN THE AREA.
AT THIS TIME. IT'S ONLY 75% RENT ON AND 25% HOME OWNERSHIP. REDA WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEW PROVIDENCE PROSPER AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED TO SHARE.
SO I'M JUST PASSING THAT ALONG TO EVERYBODY.
I GAVE A LOT OF MY REMARKS AT EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST WEEK.
I WON'T REGURGITATE ANY OF THOSE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
ANY OTHER MEMBER HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING A 5 -- COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> THIS QUESTION WOULD BE FOR MAYOR PRO TEM GARRETT.
WHAT WAS THE REASON IT WAS DISAPPROVED BY THE STAFF AGAIN? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME THINGS AND IT WAS ON THE LINE FOR THE APPROVAL FROM THE RBC.
WHAT WAS THE REASON THEY DISAPPROVED IT GAIN.
>> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. >> SO THE PRIMARY REASON IS THEY FELT IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN IN THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PRIMARILY.
LIKE YOUR R 1, R 2 A. AND YOU KNOW WITH THIS BEING R 6. THEY ARE BOTH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. THE ONLY PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS THE LOT WIDTH. BY GOING WITH A NARROWER WIDTH REQUIREMENT, YOU'RE ABLE TO PUT ALMOST TWICE AS MANY HOMES.
INSTEAD OF FIVE AND A HALF, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GET 10 TO 12 ON THERE. JUST DEPENDING ON THE TOPOGRAPHY. SO THAT CAUSED THEM CONCERN THERE WEREN'T ANY R 6 IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
BUT THE COMMISSION SIDE GAVE THEIR APPROVAL, WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS R 6 IS SINGLE FAMILY. YOU'RE NOT CHANGING THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUBDIVISION, YOU'RE JUST ENABLING A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO KEEP THE PRICES DOWN. IF YOU ONLY BUILD FIVE TO SIX HOUSES, HE HAS TO CHARGE CONSIDERABLY MORE TO MAKE UP FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COST TO KNOCKDOWN THE TREES, GRADE IT AND DEVELOP IT ON LARGER LOTS IN CONTRAST TO SMALLER LOTS.
MORE HOUSING HE CAN RECOOP THE FUNDS FOR DEVELOPING THAT.
THAT'S KEEPING THE PRICES LOW. SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT EACH SIDE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF BEING CONSISTENT WITHIN
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> COUNCILPERSON EVANS, YOU'RE
MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR PROBABLY MAYOR PRO TEM GARRETT. I IF I MISSED IT ON MONDAY, I APOLOGIZE. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY LOTS ARE
GOING ON THIS LOT. >> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
SORRY, DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
>> CURRENTLY THEY CAN DO FIVE AND A HALF LOTS.
IF WE GO R 6. THEY CAN DOUBLE IT.
IT COULD GO TO, JUST SAY 10 TO 12.
>> SO IT CAN BE 10 TO 12 AFFORDABLE
ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 85? SEEING NONE.
HEARING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK WE'RE STARTING WITH WARD TWO.
>> DIDN'T HURT A BIT. MADAM CLERK.
13 YES. ORDINANCE 85 IS ADOPTED.
WE ARE READY FOR ORDINANCE 86. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT ORDINANCE
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86-2020-21. BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR I SO MOVE.>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 86.
COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> YES, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT PERHAPS MAYOR PRO TEM GARRETT CAN ANSWER. DOES THE R 3 REQUIRE SIDEWALKS
OR ONLY R 6? >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
I ALMOST WANT TO SAY ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE TO HAVE
THEM. >> COULD WE ASK MR. TINDEL?
>> BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALL HAVE TO HAVE IT.
I MEAN WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING INTO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED EXCEPT FOR R 6.
I'M NOT SURE IF R 3 IS ONE OF THEM.
>> THAT WOULD REQUIRE WE GO OUT OF SESSION AGAIN AND HEAR FROM MR. TINDEL ANY OBJECTION TO GOING OUT OF SESSION? MR. TINDEL, WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
DID YOU HEAR IT? >> I HAVE GOT THE QUESTION.
IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, R 6 REQUIRES SIDEWALK.
R 3 DOES NOT REQUIRE SIDEWALK IF YOU'RE JUST BUILDING A SINGLE UNIT ON AN EXISTING STREET. IF YOU ARE BUILDING A NEW STREET. THE CITY HAS A SIDEWALK ORDINANCE THAT ALL NEW STREETS HAVE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS AND CURBS AND GUTTER. BUT IF YOU'RE BUILDING ON EXISTING STREET WITH R 3, IT WOULD REALLY BE AT THE DISCRETION OF STREET DEPARTMENT AND THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD YOU'RE IN. IF THERE'S SIDEWALK IN THE AREA AND THAT'S REALLY ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
CONSIDERING REYNOLD STREET DOES NOT HAVE SIDEWALK.
THE R 3 WOULD LIKELY NOT BE REQUIRED WHERE THE R 6 BY
ORDINANCE MUST HAVE SIDEWALK. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YES BUT I HAVE MORE PLEASE.
>> SO I DID RECEIVE SEVERAL MESSAGES REGARDING THIS ZONING.
AND ONE OF THEM, LET ME SEE. I REACHED ON TO THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE LETTER IN OUR PACKET AND WE DISCUSSED R 3 VERSUS R 6.
AND WHILE SEE DOESN'T REALLY APPRECIATE THE IN FILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SHE WOULD RATHER HAVE THE 4, THE R 6 WHERE WE COULD PUT A MAXIMUM OF FOUR STAND ALONE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF R 3. SHE HAD ORIGINALLY WRITTEN SHE OPPOSED IT. AFTER OUR CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A SIDEWALK AND IT WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL HOMES, SHE DOES NOT OPPOSE AT THIS TIME THE R 6.
I AM SPEAKING FOR MS. KOEHN AT HER PERMISSION.
I WAS INITIALLY GOING TO OPPOSE THIS PROPOSAL BUT I DO THINK THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HOMES AFTER DRIVING THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OF R 4 IS A BETTER FIT FOR THAT
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBER HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK
AYE. >> BARRA GARRETT -- GARRETT.
ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? THANK YOU, ORDINANCE 86 ADOPTED. ORDINANCE 87.
COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. ORDINANCE 87-2020-21 BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR APPROVAL
AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR ORDINANCE 87.
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 87? SEEING NONE.
HEARING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
>> 13 YES. ORDINANCE 87 IS ADOPTED FIRST READING. WE ARE READY FOR ITEM FIVE.
COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. >> ORDINANCE 88-2020-21.
BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF
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ORDINANCE 88. COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT.YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.
THIS ORDINANCE FALLS WITHIN MY WARD AND CONSIDERING THE FACT OF HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WE ALREADY HAVE TO PEACHES MILL AND THE FACT WE HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THIS PARTICULAR COMMERCIAL ITEM FOR C 5 IS GOING TO BE, I WOULD RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL FROM EVERYONE HERE ON THE THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT.
ANY OTHER MEMBER WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ORDINANCE 88?
>> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I APPRECIATE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER'S CONCERN IN REGARD TO TRAFFIC INCREASES. IT'S ONE THING WE HAVE ESTABLISHED WE WILL HAVE. WHEN WE LOOK AT PEACHES MILL ROAD, ON ALL ROADS. I FEEL LIKE THAT SECTION BEING FIVE LANES SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES, IF ANY CAN HANDLE SERVICE THAT WILL HELP SERVICE THE AREA AND THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE THERE WHICH INCREASES WALK ABILITY THAT MY ARISE INSTEAD OF GETTING IN A VEHICLE I THINK IS A WIN.
IT'S A CONVENIENCE TO SERVICE THAT PARTICULAR AREA ON A ROAD BUILT FOR TRAFFIC. SO I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE AND ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE IN FAVOR
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU'RE
RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
HOW CLOSE IS THIS TO THAT KEN WOOD SCHOOL?
WEST CREEK. >> JUST VERY CLOSE.
YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THERE. OKAY.
ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 88? SEEING NONE HEARING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? WE ARE STARTING AT WARD 5.
>> SMITH. >> I GUESS I HAVE TO VOTE NO.
>> YES. >> EVERY MEMBER VOTED.
ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.
>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH WISHES TO CHANGE HER VOTE TO YES.
MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE. 12 YES.
ONE NO. ORDINANCE 88 IS ADOPTED FIRST READING. WE ARE READY FOR ORDINANCE 89.
COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. 89-2020-21.
BOTH THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL.
>> SECONDED. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AGAIN, LIKE WHAT I SAID AT OUR EXECUTIVE MEETING.
THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE EDGE OF QUARRY AND SHOULD REMAIN R 2.
I LIVE TO WEST CREEK AND MY HOUSE SHAKES EVERY TIME THERE'S AN EXPLOSION IN THE QUARRY. I CANT IMAGINE PURPOSELY PUTTING HOUSES CLOSER. NORTH FORD IS A VERY NARROW ROAD. NOT AS MUCH AS MARTIN BUT THERE ARE AREAS AS I SHARED AN IMAGE WITH THE GROUP LAST WEEK WHERE YOU ONLY ONE CAR CAN PASS. AND THE ROAD IS IN NEED OF REPAIR. SO I RECOMMEND AGAIN THAT WE DO
NOT PASS THIS. >> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. ANY OTHER MEMBER COUNCILPERSON EVANS. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> HOW MANY UNITS, SORRY, THANK YOU MAYOR.
HOW MANY UNITS WERE GOING TO GO INTO THIS ZONING?
DO YOU KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM? >> IT'S YOUR TURN IN THE BARREL
MAYOR PRO TEM. >> GIVE ONE SECOND TO FIND IT IN OUR PACKET. I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF
MY HEAD. >> I GUESS I COULD HAVE DONE
I'M SO SORRY. >> QUITE ALL RIGHT.
ANYBODY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE 89. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? MADAM CLERK WE ARE STARTING WITH WARD 6.
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COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. YOU ARE FIRST UP.WE'RE VOTING NOW. I'M GOING TO VOTE.
WHEN SHE CALLS YOUR >> MADAM CLERK.
FOUR NO >> ORDINANCE 89 IS ADOPTED FIRST READING. WE ARE READY FOR ITEM SEVEN ORDINANCE 90. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
LAST ITEM. ORDINANCE 90-2020-21.
BOTH OF THE STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR APPROVAL
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 90. COUNCILPERSON SMITH.
WE HEARD THE CONCERNS OF CITIZENS IN THAT WARD AND WE KNOW THIS IS A DEAD END. WE KNOW IT DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. WE HEARD EVERYTHING ABOUT THE AREA. I'M JUST ASKING YOU ALL TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. WE KNOW THAT IT'S A DANGEROUS ROAD. WE HEARD IT BOTH.
LET US VOTE FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY AS WELL AS FOR THE CITIZENS IF YOU WILL THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON SMITH.
COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. >> YES, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD I REACHED TO TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND I WAS INFORMED THAT WE AS A CITY DO NOT OWN A RIGHT-OF-WAY TO WIDEN THAT ROAD OR TO ADD SIDEWALKS. SO EVEN IF IN THE FUTURE WE NOTED TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE DO NOT OWN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THAT ROAD. SO, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO NOT VOTE FOR THIS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON ALLEN.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS REZONING IS YOU KNOW THERE'S 30, THEY CAN ALREADY BUILD 30 HOUSES OUT THERE AND THIS WILL BUMP IT UP TO 48 IS THE ESTIMATE IN THE PACKET. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OVER THERE AND I HAVE SPENT TIME ON THAT STREET AT TIMES, IT IS VERY NARROW. PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK TO THE BUS OVER THERE. THAT IS NOT A HIGH INCOME AREA WHERE EVERYBODY HAS CARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN AND THEY HAVE TO CATCH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA AND THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH 30 MORE PEOPLE OVER THERE.
I WOULD ASK FOR US TO OPPOSE THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON ALLEN.
COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
I DID AND CALLING AROUND AND ASKING AROUND.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT.
I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE THERE.
THIS IS ALREADY AN OVERLY DENSE AREA.
WE HAVE ALREADY NOT US SPECIFICALLY BUT THE CITY IN GENERAL HAS FAILED THE STREET WITH THE UPKEEP, IMPROVING IT.
APPROVING ZONE CASES ET CETERA. WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO FIX MARTIN STREET ANYWAY. HOWEVER MY UNDERSTANDING IS TWO THINGS. THAT THEY CAN ALREADY STICK 36 HOMES ON THERE. ON R 3.
AND THIS IS 48. WE'RE TALKING 12 UNITS, 24 CARS.
AND IT'S ALREADY, IT'S JUST NOT THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE.
AND THEN MY OTHER UNDERSTANDING WAS THE R 3 ZONING BECAUSE IT IS ARCHAIC. WHERE R 4, THEY CAN BUILD SAY TWO OR ONE OR FOUR DIFFERENT EIGHT-PLEXES AND THEN THERE'S ONLY ONE PARKING LOT OR WHAT NOT.
SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE, THIS MIGHT BE BETTER THAN THE R 3. AND I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH HOW MARTIN STREET IS ALREADY A PROBLEM.
ALREADY NEEDS TO BE FIXED. EVEN IF THEY KNEW UP 36 INDIVIDUAL HOMES ON THIS, ON THE R 3 ZONING, WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND I JUST THINK THAT TRYING TO STOP THIS PARTICULAR ZONING IS ALMOST LIKE A BANDAID THAT'S NOT GOING TO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.
COUNCILPERSON REDD YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WILL BE ABSTAINING. I OWN THE PROPERTY THAT ADJOINS
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THIS REQUEST. >> ANY OTHER COUNCILPERSON HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? WE ARE STARTING AT WARD SEARCH. MADAM CLERK
ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.
ORDINANCE 90 FAILS. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT PURPOSE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE DELEGATE FOR THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> OH, OKAY. FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
>> THE PURPOSE TO BE TO REQUEST A TO MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST THE RBC ARE ADDRESSING MANUAL IN LIGHT OF THE ISSUES WE HAD WITH STREETS BEING NAMED AFTER CULTURALLY INSENSITIVE NAMES SO
YOU GOT THAT? >> SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
>> I AM MAKING A FORMAL REQUEST THE RBC LOOKS AT THE ADDRESS NAMING GUIDE TO MAYBE REWORD IT OR REVISIT IT TO MAKE SURE WHEN NAMES COME IN FOR SUBDIVISIONS AND STREETS, NOT SUBDIVISIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
STREET NAMES ARE LOOKED AT AND THEY ARE BEING VETTED FOR CULTURALLY INSENSITIVE NAMES. I SPOKE WITH MR. TINDEL AND HEED THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS BRING IT UP AT THEIR MEETING.
>> I WILL ASK FOR IT TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA NEXT
[8) CONSENT AGENDA]
OKAY. THANK YOU.WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MADAM CLERK PLEASE READ. ALL ITEMS IN THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL.
ONE ITEM MAY BE REMOVED UNDER THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE.
AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO MEMBERSHIP OF STANDING COMMITTEES. 75-2020-21.
SECOND READING. AMENDING THE FY '21 HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET TO INCLUDE THE 2021 COMMUNITY HOUSING PARTNERSHIP OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY THDH GRANT.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, OSCAR LEE HEARN, ERIK HONEY CUT AGENT.
FOR PROPERTY SOUTH OF CROSS LAND AVENUE, EAST OF BRADLEY STREET.
AND NORTH AND SOUTH OF WEST HIGH STREET.
FROM M 1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND R 3, 3 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO C 2, GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 77-2020-21. SECOND READING.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY, ELECTION OF LUKE BACKET. CID HEAD RID AGENT ON BEECHWOOD DRIVE AND BEACH DRIVE FROM R 1 SINGLE FAMILY TO R 2 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 79.
AMENDING THE FY '21 OPERATING BUDGET FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM THE ATHLETIC COMPLEX CAPITAL PROJECT TO THE REGIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER. ADOPTION OF MINUTES MARCH FOUR.
ANY MEMBER WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED.
COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL
WE WILL TAKE THAT UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
>> COUNCILPERSON REDD. I WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER A NO
VOTE ON ORDINANCE 73. >> THANK YOU.
COUNCILPERSON SMITH. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WAS GOING TO PULL ORDINANCE 77-2020 BUT I'M GOING TO
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RELINQUISH ON THAT. I SPOKE TO THE RESIDENTS AND SAID IT WAS OKAY. THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BUILD TWOTHANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ORDINANCE 73 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO BE
RECOGNIZED. >> WE'RE PULLING ITEM 173 AND ITEM FIVE, ORDINANCE 79. DID I HEAR CORRECTLY?
>> OKAY. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE.
STARTING AT WARD EIGHT. MADAM CLERK.
NEED A MOTION. >> YES WE DO NEED A MOTION.
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. NOW WE'RE READY TO VOTE.
[9) FINANCE COMMITTEE]
>> THIRTEEN YES. >> CONSENT AGENDA ADOPTED WE ARE READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.
FINANCE COMMITTEE. CHAIR PERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE
I APOLOGIZE. ORDINANCE 74-2020-21.
AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS TO ADD FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY. THE FINANCE COMMITTEE APPROVED
THIS. >> AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION
>> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 74. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
>> WE ARE BEGINNING WITH WARD 9. MADAM CLERK.
TWELVE YES ONE NO. ADOPTED FIRST READING.
>> 81-2020-21. AMENDING FY FOR CARES ACT PART ONE FUNDING THE FINANCE COMMITTEE APPROVED AND I MAKE A
MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 81? ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? WE ARE STARTING WITH
YES. >> CHAIR PERSON STREAM, 82, 2020-21. AMENDING THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR CARES ACT ROUND THREE.
THE FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED FOR APPROVAL.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> MOTION BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 82.
BLESS YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING ORDINANCE 82? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? I BELIEVE WE'RE AT WARD 11.
RESOLUTION 62. CHAIR PERSON STREETMAN.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. 62-2020-21.
AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE TBI RELATIVE TO THE TBI CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION TASK FORCE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE
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VOTED APPROVAL AND I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL PLEASE.>> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN RESOLUTION 62.
ANY MEMBER HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? SEEING NONE. HEARING NONE.
>> 13 YES. >> RESOLUTION 62 IS ADOPTED.
[10) GAS & WATER COMMITTEE]
CHAIR PERSON STREETMAN. THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT.>> I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AFTER I READ IT AND THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS.
I WILL GIVE THE REASON WHY THERE.
RESOLUTION 63, AUTHORIZING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BY COUNTY SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR ACCEPTANCE OF BIOSOLDS FROM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THE GAS AND WATER COMMITTEE VOTED FOR APPROVAL. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> MOTION MADE. >> AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR. COUNCILPERSON REDD.
. MARK REAGANS TOLD ME WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK ON THE LEGALESE AND AGREEMENT.
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION UNTIL THE MAY REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AND ALSO APPEAR ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING.
>> PROPER MOTION AND SECOND TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION 63 UNTIL THE MAY 2021 REGULAR SESSION. ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. SEEING NONE.
WE ARE READY TO VOTE. WE ARE BACK AT WARD ONE.
>> MADAM CLERK TAKE THE >> MR.
RESOLUTION 63 IS POSTPONED UNTIL THE MAY REGULAR SESSION.
COUNCILPERSON CHAIR PERSON REDD. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
RESOLUTION 64, AUTHORIZING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GUTHRIE, KENTUCKY FOR COOPERATIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE NATURAL GAS DISTRICT. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 64. ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING 64? HEARING NONE. SEEING NONE.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? WE ARE STARTING AT WARD TWO THIS TIME. MADAM CLERK.
>> CHAIRPERSON REDD, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
[11) HOUSING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]
>> THAT COMPLETES THE REPORT FROM THE GAS AND WATER.
NEXT IS HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
CHAIR PERSON SMITH. THE REPORT DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH. THE HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEWED PROPOSALS FOR 2021, 2022 COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT FUNDING. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE PARTICIPATED IN THE CDBG AT THIS LEVEL.
SPECIAL THANKS FOR THEIR TIME REVIEWING ASK SCORING PROPOSAL IT IS. A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR MANAGING THE PROCESS. OUR NEXT MEETING FOR HOUSING COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPMENT WILL BE
APRIL 12TH AT 3:00 P.M. >> THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
[12) PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE]
REPORT? HEARING NONE.SEEING NONE. WE ARE NOW READY FOR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE. CHAIR PERSON RICHMOND.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.
MAYOR. THE PARKS AND REC MET ON MARCH EIGHT AND UPCOMING EVENTS I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL WANT TO BE KNOW ABOUT. APRIL 17TH.
WE HAVE A YOUTH GLOW NIGHT. A CHOCOLATE AFFAIR APRIL 17TH.
YUMMY. THERE'S NATIONAL DAY AT THE TRAILS IN RED RIVER. A GRANT OPENING, I BELIEVE WE'RE
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ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT ON APRIL 24TH.DAY IN THE PARK MARKS THAT SAME DATE OVER AT HERITAGE PARK.
YOU HAVE TO DECIDE AND FUN WITH PHIDO.
THE NEXT MEETING THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE APRIL 12TH. WHICH IS A MONDAY AT 3:00 P.M.
PLEASE GO TO CLARKSVILLE PARKS AND REC.COM OR CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.COM AND HIT THE PARKS AND REC AND THAT COMPLETES
WE REPORT. >> THANK YOU CHAIR PERSON RICHMOND. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT
[12) PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]
REPORT? IS SEEING NONE, WE'RE REALLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. CHAIR PERSON GARRETT.YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. BUILDINGS AND CODES INSTRUCTION HAD 309 TOTAL INSPECTIONS. 108 NEW CASES.
ABATEMENT 11 WORK ORDERS. THEY WERE 199 SINGLE FAMILY PERMITS WHICH WAS A RECORD. FOR ANY GIVEN MONTH.
WE HAD 36 MULTIFAMILY PERMITS PULLD AND 31 COMMERCIAL PERMITS PULLED. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD A TOTAL OF 3447 TOTAL INSTANCES THEY RESPONDED TO.
THEY CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THEIR HEROICS IN ANOTHER FIRE AT CAPTAIN D'S. SHOUT OUT TO PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY. THE CLARKSVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD 12639 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
ON A POSITIVE NOTE, THEY HAD 7 OFFICERS OR I GUESS CANDIDATES GRADUATED THE ACADEMY LAST THURSDAY.
SIX WERE SWORN IN. AND REPORTED TO THEIR ACADEMY ON SUNDAY. THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE?
[14) STREETS-GARAGE-TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE]
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW READY FOR STREETS GARAGE AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.CHAIR PURPOSE SMITH. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE REPORT FOR MARCH 2021.
CTS TRANSPORTED 38580 PASSENGERS.
SENIOR CITIZENS WAS 6885. DEMAND RESPONSE TOTAL IS 2842.
CTS IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THE LAUNCH OF THE NEW PASSENGER INFORMATION APP AND WEBSITE. FOR REALTIME INFORMATION ON BUS LOCATION, TRIP PLANNING AND SERVICE UPDATES DOWNLOAD THE ETASPOT APP AVAILABLE ON ANDROID AND IPHONE OR VISIT THE WEBSITE, SCTS PUBLIC.ETA SPOT.COM. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE APRIL THE 28TH AT 3:00 P.M. STREET DEPARTMENT COMPLETED WORK ORDERS OF 247 FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH.
THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AT TRENT AND MARRY WHETHER IS COMPLETED. SPRING CLEAN UP CONTINUES THROUGH APRIL 19TH. 645-7464 TO REQUEST A PICK UP.
REQUEST FOR MOSQUITOES CONTROL MADE FROM FROM APRIL THROUGH ACT. CALL MCGEE@800-420-2847 TO MAKE YOUR REQUEST KNOWN. THAT NUMBER AGAIN IS 800-420-2847. PAVING WILL BEGIN AT THE GREEN LAND FARMS SUBDIVISION. FOR THE CITY GARAGE.
THE REPORT IS AS FOLLOWS. MONEY TURNED IN TO FINANCE DEPARTMENT OR PREREQUISITION WAS $197,559.60.
THE TOTAL NUMBER OF WORK ORDERS WAS 394.
THE TOTAL NUMBER OF WORK ORDER HOURS WAS 1185.
FEW CALLS FOR UNLEADED WAS $2 .233 PER GALLON.
THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN THE GAS.
FEW CALLS FOR DIESEL AND THERE WAS NO INCREASE AS WELL.
THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORTS. >> THANK YOU CHAIR PERSON SMITH.
[10) ITEMS POSTPONED]
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT COMMITTEE? WE ARE READY FOR ITEMS POSTPONED.ITEM ONE. UNDER THE ITEMS POSTPONED SECTION IS ORDINANCE 63. SECOND READING AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS.
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COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE SPONSORED.>> AMENDING THE SPECIAL CODE, I MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAD ALL BUT RESIGNED MYSELF TO THE FAILURE OF THIS REPEAL AND OUR FAILURE AS A BODY OF REPRESENTATIVES IN DISREGARDING THE 75% MAJORITY OF CLARKSVILLE RESIDENTS WHO TOLD US THEY DO NOT WANT THIS LAW ON THE BOOKS.
WHETHER I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM A WARD 12 CONSTITUENT ASKING ME WHAT THEY COULD DO TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS BECAUSE A HOME ADJACENT TO THEIR WAS GOING TO BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
THE LAW I'M FIGHTING AGAINST TO ASAGE RESIDENTS AND ENHANCE SAFETY DOES NOTHING TO HELP. AFTER BEING BEAT OVER THE METAPH METAPHORICALLY.
I ALMOST FORGOT WHAT I WAS FIGHTING FOR.
THIS CONSTITUENT HAS ALL THE SAME OPTIONS NOW THEY HAD LAST SUMMER BEFORE THE ORDINANCE PASSED.
COMPLAIN TO THE HOST COMPANY. THE CONCERNS PRESENTED DURING THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN SAFETY ORIENTED AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THIS PACKET OF PAPER DOES NUMBER TO HELP THAT.
I HAVE BEEN ASKED WHAT PROBLEMS I HAVE WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL I HATE TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF TIME BUT LET ME START.
SECOND 5-303, GRANDFATHERS IN THE 300 THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO CAPTURE. SECTION FIVE-304, SECTION THREE, SAYS THAT THE OWNER HAS TO RESPOND WITHIN 45 MINUTES.
I DON'T KNOW BUT GUYS, AND THAT IS 7 DAYS A WEEK.
I CAN RARELY RESPOND TO A PHONE CALL WITHIN 45 MINUTES.
SECTION 4, IN THE SAME SECTION, SAYS THAT THE OWNER'S INFORMATION ALL BECOMES PUBLIC RECORD.
AND I THINK THAT'S A VIOLATION OF PRIVACY.
5, REQUIRES A SITE PLAN FOR THE BUILDING.
AND THAT IS INCLUDING THE FLOOR PLAN, THE USE OF EACH ROOM IN THE DWELLING THE NUMBER. THE LOCATION.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS IF YOU'RE THE PERSON STAYING IN THE BUILDING. LATER ON IN 8 D.
THE FEES WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
THE $150. WE'RE CHARGING PEOPLE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PUT ON THEM.
SECTION FIVE-308. NOVESTED RIGHTS.
THIS IS NOT A GRANT OF VESTED RIGHTS TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO PUT THESE RESTRICTIONS ON YOU, IF WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO TAKE THE RIGHTS BACK WE WILL. COMPLAINTS AND REMEDIES.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL TO OPERATE A SHORT TERM RENTAL UNIT THAT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE CITY AND STATE.
THIS STUFF IS ALREADY COVERED. IT'S ALREADY ILLEGAL.
WE DON'T HAVE TO REMAKE IT ILLEGAL.
THERE'S ALSO AN EXCEPTION TO GRANDFATHER IN B OF SECTION 5-309. C GOES OVER PUBLIC NUISANCE.
ALL STUFF ALREADY COVERED IN CITY CODE.
THE COMPLAINTS IN D HOW YOU MAKA COMPLAINT ARE THINGS THAT ARE COVERED IN CODE. SECTION F, SAYS THAT BASICALLY WE CAN REVOKE IT. IT'S SMALL.
IT'S SIX LINES. IT SAYS WE CAN REVOKE SOMEONE'S PERMIT FOR ANYTHING WE FEEL LIKE IT.
SECTION 5-308-H. THE EMERGENCY SUSPENSION IS THE ONE PART OF THE ENTIRE SEVEN PAGES I WOULD NOT REMOVE.
SECTION 5-3, I'M SORRY, SECTION FIVE-31.
CITY SHALL HAVE NO RIGHT, MEANING EVEN IF YOU HAVE AN HOA, THE CITY CAN STILL GRANT IT. A LOT OF THINGS WILL SAY THE MOST POPULAR SHORT TERM RENTAL PLATFORM ALREADY TAKES CARE OF.
BE COVERS TAXES. AGAIN ALREADY COVERED.
C COVERS ADVERTISING. WHICH I THINK IS WILD.
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I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS TO PUT THEIR TAX I D ON ALL OF THEIR ADVERTISING. SO THAT'S JUST BLATANT OVER REACH. MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY.AGAIN SAYS THAT THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF ANY SHORT TERM RENTAL UNIT BY TRANSIENT GUEST SHALL NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY LIMITS AS PRESCRIBED. WE'RE NOT TELLING PEOPLE HOW WE'RE MAKING THIS DECISION JUST SAYING WE CAN MAKE THIS DECISION. E SAYS THERE'S AN AGE REQUIREMENT. ANY ONLINE PLATFORM THAT RENTS OUT THESE PROPERTIES HAS AN AGE REQUIREMENT.
F SAYS, USE OF SORT TERM RENTAL MAY USE A SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR AN ON SITE BUSINESS. HOW MANY DURING COVID WHEN MOST PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME AND STAY AT A BED AND BENEFIT.
IF I USE A CRICKET TO CUT STICKERS.
I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT? IT'S JUST TOO BROAD TO INCLUDE THE FOOD SERVICE ONE WHICH WE ALREADY DISCUSSED AT LENGTH.
SECTION 5-312 IS OUR COVID CLAUSE.
WE'RE TREATING THESE RENTAL UNITS AS A HOTEL BUT ALLOTTING THEM NONE OF FREEDOMS INCLUDING EXEMPTING BED AND BREAKFAST FROM THE ENTIRE THING TO BEGIN WITH. WE CANNOT LEGISLATE GOOD BEHAVIOR GUYS. NOR SHOULD WE ASSUME SHORT TERM RENTERS OR OWNERS ARE LESS THAN SAVORY CHARACTERS.
REPEATING STANDARDS AND LAWS THAT ALREADY EXIST DON'T MAKE PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW THEM.
THE LONGER MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND SPECIFICALLY TAILORED TO THE MARKET. GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THESE THINGS. WE DO NOT NEED TO MICROMANAGE OUR CITIZENS. THEY ARE ADULTS.
OVER LEGISLATING THEM IS NOT OUR JOB IT'S AN ABUSE OF OUR POSITION. THEY HAVE, I LOOKED AT THE WEBSITE OF THE MOST POPULAR PLATFORM FOR THESE TYPES OF RENTALS. THEY HAVE A PORTAL FOR LOCAL POLICE IN REGARD TO THE RENTALS. LOCAL POLICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS CAN MAKE THEMSELVES PROFILE AND GO ON THERE AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE PLATFORM ABOUT PROBLEMS IN THEIR RENTALS.
THEY OFFER AND OR REQUIRE HOST PROTECTION INSURANCE.
THEY HAVE A PAGE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT SO THAT RESIDENTS THAT ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES IS NEXT TO THEM CAN COMPLAIN RIGHT TO THE PLATFORM.
THEY HAVE A POLICY AGAINST DISRUPTIVE POLICIES AND DURING COVID THEY CAPPED RENTALS AND PARTIES.
THEN, THEIR SUBJECT TO REVIEWS THAT EASILY AS WE KNOW, THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, CAN EASILY GET YOU REMOVED FROM THE PLATFORM. THEY EVEN HAVE AN EXTORSION POLICY AND YES COLLECT ALL APPLICABLE TAXES.
I WONDER IF THIS WAS RESEARCHED BEFORE WE WASTED TAXPAYER DOLLARS INSTITUTING THIS? IF WE DON'T REPEAL THIS, WE'RE TELLING CITIZENS THAT WE KNOW BETTER THAN THEY DO.
AND THAT WE CARE MORE OF MAKING OURSELVES LOOK OR FEEL GOOD ABOUT REPRESENTING THEM. 75% GUYS.
THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR. NONDEBATABLE.
>> SECOND. >> PROPERLY SECONDED.
IT'S A NONDEBATABLE MOTION. REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS WHICH IS NINE OF US TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION WHICH IS TO CEASE DISCUSSION. WE ARE VOTING ON THE QUESTION.
REQUIRES NINE. WE ARE BACK ON DISCUSSION.
I HAVE COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN ON THE LIST.
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>> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT MAYOR.
IN REGARD TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE, THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION I BELIEVE THAT HAS KIND OF BEEN MISCONSTRUED A LITTLE BIT THERE. I GAVE YOU PRINT OUTS OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO READ IT.
NOT JUST READING SOME OF THE LINES IN THERE.
I WANT TO START OUT IN REGARD TO STAYING THAT 75% OF THE RESIDENTS ARE AGAINST THIS. I DEFINITELY LEARNED DEFINITELY IN MY STATISTIC CLASS TO BASE A POLL OFF FACEBOOK.
WE CAN'T JUST USE FACEBOOK POLLS TO MAKE A DECISION.
A CERTAIN GROUP THAT RESPOND TO IT.
I THINK IN ANYTHING YOU SEE WHEN YOU ASK A QUESTION IN ONE AREA YOU CAN ASK IN ANOTHER QUESTION. IF YOU HAVE DEFERRAL PEOPLE FOLLOWING THAT, YOU WILL GET DIFFERENT RESPONSES.
STARTING WITH THE RESIDENT THAT CONTACTED THE SPEAKER.
STATING THAT THERE WOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE FOR HER RIGHT NOW THAN IT WAS A YEAR AGO. THAT'S ACTUALLY UNTRUE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WITH WHAT WOE HAVE IN PLACE NOW, A YEAR AGO BEFORE THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE, SHE COULD HAVE CALLED ONE WEEKEND WHEN THERE WAS AN ISSUE AND THE POLICE COULD HAVE DEALT WITH THE PARTICULAR RENTERS. THE NEXT WEEKEND, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM SHE COULD HAVE CALLED THE POLICE AND THE NEXT WEEKEND AND NEXT WEEKEND. THERE WAS NO END TO THE RESOLUTION. WITH THIS IN PLACE.
IF YOU HAVE A VIOLATION OF THREE LOCAL LAWS, WE CAN LOOK AT THEM NO LONGER BEING ABLE TO OPERATE. RESPONSIBLE HOSTS DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO AND THERE ARE A GREAT MANY OF THEM IN THIS COMMUNITY WITHOUT A DOUBT. FOR THOSE NOT QUITE CONCERNED WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR PROPERTY, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE NEEDING THIS IN PLACE.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS IS AN INDUSTRIES THAT CONTINUING TO GROW. AS HAS BEEN STATED.
WE HAD 17 NEW APPLICANTS SINCE THIS WENT INTO PLACE.
OUT OF 128 SHORT TERM RENTALS. WE HAD AN INCREASE OF 13% IN SIX MONTHS. IT'S EASY TO SEE THE TREND IN WHICH THIS IS GOING. IN REGARD TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE ABILITY TO OPERATE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY BEING ABLE TO SIT IN THEIR ROOM AND DO SOMETHING. THE REASON THAT LINE WAS PUT IN PLACE SO YOU COULD NOT USE IT AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
MANY OF THESE, IF NOT THE MAJORITY ARE IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. IT'S NOT FOR A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOING INTERVIEWS FOR JOB POSITIONS, GETTING VARIOUS DELIVERIES COMING IN ON A REGULAR BASIS. SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE ABOUT GIVING A SPOT FOR PEOPLE COMING TO THE AREA TO HAVE A PLACE TO STAY AS OVER NIGHT TRANSIENT GUESTS.
NOT AS COMMERCIAL OPERATORS. IN REGARD TO NO RHYME AND REASON TO HOW IT IS DETERMINED FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN STAY OVER NIGHT.
THE NUMBER OF TRANSIENT GUESTS. THERE IS RHYME AND REASON TO THAT. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS EQUIPPED TO MAKE A DECISION WHAT WILL BE THE SAFE NUMBER OF GUESTS STAYING IN THERE. IF YOU HAVE TAKEN ANY TIME TO LOOK AT THE RENTALS THAT YOU WOULD FIND ON ONE OF THE LARGEST SHORT TERM RENTAL OPERATORS. YOU WILL SEE YOU HAVE UPWARDS OF 15 OR MORE PEOPLE LISTED TO STAY IN A SMALL PLACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE GOT NUMEROUS BEDS SHOVED IN THERE TO HAVE THAT STAY IN THERE. TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE A PARTY HOUSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO TRY AND HOUSE 15 PEOPLE.
THERE MIGHT BE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE FAMILY DO THIS.
IN THIS CASE, WHAT HAPPENED. ESPECIALLY IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA IN MY WARD, THAT HAS BEEN WHERE IT HAS BEEN A REGULAR PARTY HOUSE. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FOOD IN REGARD TO THEM BEING ABLE TO SERVE IT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IF SOMEBODY IS COOKING BREAKFAST, YOU CAN'T SHARE FOOD WITH THEM. YOU CAN'T SHARE FOOD.
YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM FOOD FOR CONSIDERATION.
MEANING YOU ARE, THEY ARE PAYING YOU FOR FOOD.
YOU ARE NOT HAVING ANYBODY FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT COME IN THERE AND INSPECT THE KITCHEN, WHICH BY THE WAY DOES HAPPEN WITH BED AND BREAKFASTS THAT I ARE ALREADY COVERED IN OUR CODE.
BED AND BREAKFAST ARE NOT THE SAME AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
IT'S A BUSINESS ALREADY OPERATING BUT A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS OPERATING A BUSINESS AS WELL.
LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE LOTS OF INFORMATION THAT WAS COVERED IN THERE. I DO HOPE THAT EVERYBODY TOOK THE TIME TO READ THROUGH EACH AND EVERY DETAIL IN THERE.
THIS WAS NOT OVER REACH. IT WAS FOR THE POINT OF THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS THE GUESTS COMING IN HERE. THE REASON THAT THEY PUT THEIR PERMIT NUMBER ON THEIR ADVERTISING TO LET THOSE GUESTS KNOW, HEY THAT IS A PLACE THAT HAS BEEN INSPECTED.
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IT'S GOING TO BE SAFE FOR ME TO BRING MY KIDS IN.I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENING TO THEM.
THERE WILL BE A FIRE ALARM AND CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR.
IT'S TO OFFER THE SAFETY AND THE REASSURANCE TO GUESTS TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE STAYING WILL BE A SAFE PLACE.
THAT'S WHY THESE MEASURES WERE PUT IN.
THERE WAS LOTS OF RESEARCH PUT INTO THIS.
THERE WAS A YEAR SPENT WORKING ON THIS.
WE WORKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I WORKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I WORKED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WORKED WITH BUILDING AND CODES AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
WE LOOKED TO SEE WHAT THEY HAD TO DEVELOP THIS.
THEN WE TOOK IT THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND WE ALSO TOOK IT THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
WE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING TO TRY AND GET THIS IN PLACE AND EVEN ONCE IT CAME TO THE FLOOR. WE SPENT TWO MEETING TO NARROW DOWN TO WHAT MANY ON THE COUNCIL FELT WAS A GOOD COMPROMISE.
WE WORKED HARD TO BE ABLE TO CRAFT THIS.
I ASK YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS REPEAL AND KEEP THIS IN PLACE.
THIS IS A GROWING INDUSTRY AND NEED TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN. >> THANK YOU.
MAYOR. I HAD TWO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE AIR BNBS'S, I'M SORRY. SHORT TERM RENTALS.
CLARKSVILLE CURRENT GROWTH, THE SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE GOING TO INCREASE AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE AND MORE PROBLEMS. YOU'RE GOING TO GET GOOD ONES AND BAD ONES.
I FEEL LIKE THIS WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE WITH OUR GROWTH. SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL CAME WITH UP 75%.
BUT EVERYBODY THAT HAS CONTACTED ME IN WARD 9 HAS ASKED ME TO VOTE TO ENSURE THIS REMAINS IN PLACE.
MOSTLY AGAIN BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE AND WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT APARTMENT AND AS WE INFILL INTO THESE R 3 AND R 4 DISTRICTS. MORE AND MORE OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE MIXED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER ALSO INDICATED THAT THE POLICE COULD GO ON TO THE VARIOUS WEBSITES AND IN AN EMERGENCY WE REALLY DON'T WANT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO GO SHOPPING BETWEEN 4 AND FIVE WEBSITES TO SEE IF THIS IS AN AIR BNB AND WHAT THE CAPACITY IS. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THIS ON THE BOOKS. I THINK IT'S PERSONALITY FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WILL TRY AGAIN. CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR. >> PROPERLY SECONDED.
NONDEBATABLE MOTION. REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS.
COMES NINE OF US. WE ARE VOTING ON THE QUESTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION. MADAM CLERK I FORGET WHICH WARD WE'RE STARTING WITH. PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE.
>> QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR. WE ARE CEASING DISCUSSION.
WE ARE NOW VOTING ON ORDINANCE 63.
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ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE?
>> I WANT TO CHANGE MINE TO YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH WISHES
TO CHANGE TO YES. >> MADAM CLERK.
>> 6 YES, 7 NO. ORDINANCE 63 FAILS.
SECOND READING. WE ARE READY FOR RESOLUTION 15.
>> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. >> I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THIS ONE. AND AT THE BEHEST OF SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO DIGEST.
I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION POSTPONE IT.
>> SECOND. >> I GOT TO MAKE A MOTION TO GET
IT ON THE TABLE. >> YOU HAVE VERY INTERESTED FOLKS. GO AHEAD.
>> WE NEED A MOTION TO GET IN FRONT OF US 59-2020-21.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE IN FAVOR AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE JULY 29TH LITTLE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND AUGUST WHATEVER THAT FIRST THURSDAY IS REGULAR SESSION. OKAY.
MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST REGULAR SESSION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, I WISH TO BE HEARD ON THAT DEFERRED MOTION?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS REGARDING RESOLUTION 59, THE MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST 2021 REGULAR SESSION.
MOTION TO POSTPONE IS ADOPTED. WE ARE INTO NEW BUSINESS.
I GOT A THE APRIL 1ST, 2021, REGULAR
[11)NEW BUSINESS]
SESSION OF CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL.WE ARE READY FOR NEW BUSINESS. ITEM ONE, APPROVING SALE OF EXIT 8 PROPERTY AT EXIT EIGHT TO SILICON RANCH AS I MENTIONED AT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. I WANT TO REFER OR COMMIT THIS BACK TO THE FINANCE AND PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO GET THIS PROPERLY BEFORE US.
>> MOTION MADE AND SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 83.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO REFER THIS TO THE FINANCE AND PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER STUDY.
MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
COUNCILPERSON SMITH. YOU'RE THAT'S OKAY.
WE'RE VOTING TO REFER OR COMMIT ORDINANCE 83 TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.
13 YES. >> ORDINANCE 83 TO COMMIT TO THE COMMITTEE IS ADOPTED. 91-2020-21.
AMEND THE CODE OF TIMES OF REG SESSION AND PUBLIC
MAYOR. ON THIS AMENDMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE IT, GIVE US SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT TIME WE REALLY WANT THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
I DID RESEARCH AND I DID FIND THAT WE HAVE BEEN STAYING IN THESE MEETINGS PROBABLY FOUR HOURS TO THREE HOURS.
THE MOST OF THE TIME WE WERE GETTING OUT AT 11 O'CLOCK.
12 O'CLOCK. I JUST WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND GIVE THEIR INPUT.
I JUST MADE A SUGGESTION. >> SO IF YOU WILL MOVE -- I WILL MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION WE POSTPONE THIS THANK YOU MAYOR.
>> IF YOU WILL MOVE TO ADOPT FIRST AND THEN WE WILL COME TO
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YOU FOR THE POSTPONE. >> OKAY.
SO YOU'LL MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 91.
>> MOVE TO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE. PROPERLY SECONDED.
>> BACK TO YOU TO DEFER. >> POSTPONE, LET'S DO IN MAY.
>> MOTION TO POSTPONE AND PROPERLY SECOND ORDINANCE 91 ON
THE MAY 2021, REGULAR SESSION. >> ANY COMMENT QUESTION
COUNCILPERSON REDD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON IT.
I WAS LOOKING AT 6 O'CLOCK KIND OF AS A MIDLEVEL.
IT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN. I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON IT.
THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE. I'M ALSO READY TO VOTE ON
>> OKAY. COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
>> I TOO WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON IT.
IT'S AN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE TWO STABS AT IT.
BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT AND DEAL WITH IT AT LEAST NOW.
WE CAN GET A GENERAL CONSENSUS AND HAVE ANOTHER EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE SECOND READING TO DISCUSS FURTHER.
WE CAN MAKE THIS CHANGE TO BENEFIT OF US AND THE CITIZENS OF STAFF. I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR IT. OKAY.
>> THE MOTION BEFORE US IS TO POSTPONE.
COUNCILPERSON EVANS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO JOIN THE BAND WAGON.
I'M READY TO VOTE AS WELL. >> OKAY.
SO WE ARE ANYONE ELSE WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE? SEEING NONE.
HEARING NONE. WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOTION TO
POSTPONE TO THE MAY REGULAR >>
[INAUDIBLE] >> ANY WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE. FOUR YES.
NINE NO. >> MOTION TO POSTPONE FAILS.
ORDINANCE 91. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.
>> AS I SPOKE THE OTHER NIGHT. WE NEED TO LEAVE THIS WHERE IT IS AND KEEPING THE PUBLIC IN MIND.
NOT REFERRING TO THE PUBLIC AT HOME WHICH WE STATED YOU CAN WATCH THIS ELECTRONICALLY. STOP WATCHING IT WHEREVER IT WORKS FOR YOU. IN REGARD TO THOSE THAT WANT TO COME HERE AND SPEAK, YOU THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, IF WE'RE STARTING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT 5 O'CLOCK AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T GET OFF UNTIL 5 O'CLOCK.
IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO SPEAK ON THAT.
STARTING AT 5:30. PEOPLE ARE HERE IN PUBLIC AND THE THING THEY MOST WANT TO COME OUT IS GOING TO BE ON ZONING CASES WHICH ARE ALWAYS AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR AGENDA.
WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT A HARDSHIP ON THE PUBLIC FOR THEM TO BE HERE AND SHOW HOW THEY FEEL AND WANT US TO VOTE ON A PARTICULAR ITEM. WE ALL RECOGNIZE THESE MEETING STARTED AT 7 O'CLOCK AND RAN FOR OFFICE.
WE HAVE HAD LATE NIGHTS. THIS YEAR HAS BEEN LONG.
AS I SPOKE THE OTHER NIGHT, I REFERENCED THAT WE HAD 10 MEETINGS, LESS THAN 2 HOURS IN 2019 AND EIGHT MEETINGS LESS THAN TWO HOURS IN 2020. BECAUSE OF FACT I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL AND IT WAS REFERENCED PREVIOUS YEARS WERE DIFFERENT.
I LOOKED AS FAR BACK AS 2015. IN 2015, EIGHT OF THE MEETINGS WERE LESS THAN TWO HOURS, THREE LESS THAN ONE HOUR.
IN 2016, SEVEN OF THE THEM ARE LESS THAN TWO HOURS.
ALL OF THEM WERE LESS THAN TWO-AND-A-HALF.
IN 2017, ALL OF THEM WERE LESS THAN TWO HOURS AND 5 MINUTES.
AND IN 2018, ALL OF THEM WERE LESS THAN 2:08.
EIGHT % OUT OF THE PRIOR SIX YEARS WERE LESS THAN TWO HOURS LONG. THIS WAS JUST A DIFFERENCE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THE SMALL SAMPLE SIZE AND MAKE A CHANGE TO HOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING THINGS. I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON REDD.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.
FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS A TIME WE STARTED AT 7:30 AND I ASKED SOMEONE WHY WE STARTED SO LATE. I WAS TOLD MAYBE WHEREVER THE 7:30 CAME UP, THE TRAVEL WAS NOT AS AVAILABLE AND IT WAS AN OLD TIME WE JUST KIND OF GOT ACCUSTOMED TO AND STUCK WITH.
LET ME POINT OUT. I THINK THE RPC.
I MIGHT BE WRONG. STARTS AT 4:30.
WE HAVE MOST OF OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE 4:00 OUR 4:30.
THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETS AT 6 O'CLOCK.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THE PROPOSAL IS 5:30.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, I WOULD SAY 6:00 MAYBE.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS 4:30. AND LIKE I MENTIONED, INFORMAL MEETING, WE DO HAVE THE INTERNET THAT PEOPLE CAN GO ONLINE ANY IT'S PRETTY EASY TO NAVIGATE THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE MEETINGS. THEY CAN LOOK AT THEM LIVE AND IF YOU MISS A MEETING, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE RECORDED PART.
I WISH WE WOULD LOOK AT AN EARLIER TIME.
IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE THE PROPOSED TIME WHICH I THINK IS 5:30, MAYBE IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO 6:00, I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO TO 6:00.
COUNCILPERSON GARRETT. YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST.
I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER AND THE TIME LIMITS. ZONING MAYBE A TIME TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS TO DIFFERENT THINGS THEY EITHER AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH. THE RPC AS REFERENCED EARLIER, OUR FORMAL SECTION ACTUALLY STARTS AT 2 O'CLOCK.
SO WE'RE THERE AT 2 O'CLOCK AND THE ROOM, THE GALLEY IS FULL OF PEOPLE. I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING CITIZENS AREN'T ABLE TO TAKE THE TIME OUT IF WE BUMP TO 4:30 LIKE WE'RE DOING NOW. THEY SPEAK TO IT ALL THE TIME AT OUR REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
YOU KNOW FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT AND BUMP IT UP TO 4:30 INSTEAD OF 5:30 JUST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ALL THE REST OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE.
>> SECOND. >> I THINK WE NEED THAT IN
WRITING. >> IF YOU COULD WRITE IT OUT ON A PIECE OF PAPER, THAT SHOULD SUFFICE.
MAKE IT CLEAR IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 4:30 FOR THE START OF THE MEETING OR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION?
>> I GUESS WE COULD DO 4:30 FOR THE START OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND 5 O'CLOCK FOR THE START MEETING.
>> I SECOND THAT TOO. >> WE WILL HAVE TO GET IT IN WRITING. LET'S JUST PAUSE A MOMENT TO GIVE THE SCRIBE TIME TO WRITE IT AND DISCUSS THE AMENDMENT.
HOW IS THAT? I GOT IT SCRIBED.
OR DO WE WANT TO TAKE ONE DOWN AND PASS IT DOWN OR DOES EVERYBODY WANT A COPY? WE WILL NEED A COPY.
I THINK FOR CLARITY. >> I SHOULD HAVE SIGNED IT THEN.
JUST FOR CLARITY AND -- BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG AT HOME AS WELL.
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OKAY. WE HAVE BEFORE US THE VERY LENGTHY AMENDMENT. SO BACK TO YOU COUNCILPERSON GARRETT FOR YOU TO READ YOUR AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE IN FRONTBRACE YOURSELF. SO 4:30 START OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. 5:00 P.M. FOR REGULAR SESSION.
>> THAT IS A PROPER MOTION AND PROPER SECOND.
WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING THE AMENDMENT.
AND WE HAVE COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> KIND OF EARLY. DON'T YOU THINK?
>> WE ARE TALKING P.M. YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS ON THE COUNCIL WHO HAVE REGULAR 9:00 TO 5:00 OR 8:00 TO 4:00 JOBS.
WE DON'T WANT TO DISPOSITION THEM.
SO, MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS COUNCIL IS TO VOTE THIS AMENDMENT THANK
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT.
COUNCILPERSON SMITH. YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST.
>> YES. I THANK YOU FOR SAYING 4:30 START TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I THINK THAT'S EARLY BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE JOBS AND TRYING TO GET HERE.
I WAS JUST SAYING WE NEED TO GIVE THEM TIME TO GET HERE.
4:30 IS GOING TO PUT THEM IN A RUSH, CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS.
THEY'RE PEOPLE WORKING AT FORT CAMPBELL OR AROUND THIS CITY.
I THINK 4:30 IS TOO EARLY. AFTER TALKING WITH THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN GETTING HERE THAT 5 O'CLOCK OR 6 O'CLOCK WE START THE COMMENTS FOR 6 O'CLOCK AND THEN START THE MEETING AT 6:30.
I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A BREAK.
THOSE WHO ARE WORKING TO TAKE A LUNCH.
OR TAKE A SUPPER OR DINNER OR SOMETHING.
MAYBE GET A LITTLE SOMETHING TO EAT.
I WILL BE VOTING THIS DOWN. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY.
>> COUNCILPERSON EVANS. YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I SEE WHY 4:30 WOULD SEEM REASONABLE. HOWEVER I THINK THAT THE TIMES ARE GOOD HOW THEY ARE. PEOPLE DO HAVE JOBS.
I PERSONALLY HAVE SCHOOL. I HAVE TO LEAVE MY CLASS EARLY TO COME TO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. CERTAIN CLASSES THAT I HAVE TO TAKE NEXT CALL DON'T END UNTIL ALMOST 5:30.
I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT AND I WILL BE VOTING
TO KEEP THE TIME THE SAME. >> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I ABSOLUTELY THINK THIS IS TOO EARLY TO BE ABLE TO START IT. AGAIN WE REFERENCED THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GET OFF UNTIL 5:00 AND NOW WE'RE TALKING START OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO START AT 4:30.
I RECOGNIZE THE REGIONAL PLANNING START AT 2 O'CLOCK.
I HAVE PEOPLE COMPLAINING SAYING THEY CAN'T COME TO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.
LET'S NOT TAKE AWAY THE SECOND OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE HERE.
>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. YOU'RE NEXT.
>> SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
I GAVE TO CHANGE TO 5:30. YES THAT IS MINE.
TO CHANGE TO 5:30 PUBLIC SESSION AND 6 O'CLOCK FOR REGULAR
>> WE WILL BE CONSISTENT. LET'S GET IT COPIED AND HANDED
OUT. >> THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO
>> COUNCILPERSON AT THE END IN WARD 12 AND I ARE COSPONSORS ON THAT. MR. BAKER.
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JUST SO EVERYBODY DOESN'T GET CONFUSED.THE NEXT THING IS VOTE ON THE ALLEN AMENDMENT TO THE GARRETT AMENDMENT. THE ALLEN AMENDMENT IS PUBLIC COMMENTS 5:30. REGULAR SESSION 6.
THAT PASSES, THEN THE OBVIOUSLY THE GARRETT AMENDMENT IS AMENDED. IN IT DOESN'T PASS, THEN YOU WILL BE BACK ON THE GARRETT AMENDMENT.
THE GARRETT AMENDMENT IS 4:30 PUBLIC COMMENT, 5 O'CLOCK
>> YOURS IS THE MAIN QUESTION. IF THE GARRETT AMENDMENT AS MAY BE AMENDED. IF IT FAILS, WE'RE BACK ON YOUR MAIN QUESTION. IS THAT AN ACTUAL AMENDMENT?
HAS EVERYBODY GOT A COPY. BACK TO YOU COUNCILPERSON ALLEN.
MOVE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO REGULAR SESSION AS 6:00 P.M.,
5:30 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SECOND.
>> YOU HEARD THE MOTION. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
COUNCILPERSON REDD. >> PLEASE VOTE YES.
JOSHUA BEALL IS HERE. HE WILL TELL YOU THEY START AT 6 O'CLOCK AT COUNCIL MEMBER KNIGHT IS HERE AND ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION STARTS AT 6:00.
I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE TIME.
I MEAN. IT'S WORTH BACKING UP AN HOUR.
PLEASE VOTE YES. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.
YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST. THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. SO WE HAVE 4:30 AND 7:00.
THIS IS A HAPPY MEDIUM. COMPROMISE.
PLEASE VOTE YES ON THIS. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
IT'S A NONDEBATABLE MOTION. REQUIRES 2 THIRDS OR NINE OF US TO APPROVE CEASING DISCUSSION. MADAM CLERK WE ARE READY WHEN YOU ARE. VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON
>> YES. LOOKS LIKE WE WILL CEASE DISCUSSION. WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. WHICH IS THE ALLEN AMENDMENT TO START REGULAR SESSION AT 6:00 P.M. PUBLIC COMMENT PUBLIC AT 5:30 P.M. WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE
>> AYE. RIN OLDS REASON -- REYNOLDS.
>> YES. >> MADAM CLERK 12 YES, ONE NO.
THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. WE ARE ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED WHICH IS TO START REGULAR SESSION AT 6 -- OKAY.
PARDON ME. WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED WHICH IS TO START REGULAR SESSION AT 6:00.
WE VOTED, YOU GOT TO VOTE EACH STEP OF THE WAY.
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3 TIMES. ALL RIGHT.SO WE ARE ON GARRETT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
THANK YOU MR. BAKER. >> ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN. DO YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON
GARRETT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. >> YES, SIR, I WAS WAITING.
IF I COULD JUST HOLD MY PLACE. >> PUSH YOUR BUTTON AGAIN.
COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT. YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE
OKAY. QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. OKAY.
WE ARE CEASING DISCUSSION. WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? OKAY. SO WE ARE NO MORE DISCUSSION ON
>> VOTING ON THE GARRETT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
WE JUST VOTED TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE GARRETT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. SO WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE GARRETT AMENDMENT AS AMENDED WHICH IS THE 5:30
WE ARE NOW ON THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED.
OKAY COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> QUESTION, CALLING FOR IT.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR. PROPERLY SECONDED.
SO WE'RE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION.
CEASE DISCUSSION. NOW WE'RE VOTING.
ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE VOTING. ON THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED.
FOR KEEPING MY MOSTLY OUT OF THE DITCH.
WE'RE READY TO VOTE. MADAM CLERK.
VOTING ON THE MAIN MOTION. THAT'S FOR ME.
11 YES, TWO NO. MOTION FIRST READING IS ADOPTED.
WE'RE NOW READY FOR ITEM THREE. ORDINANCE 92-2020-21.
PROVING A SETTLEMENT OF THE ROBINSONS OR FRANKLIN STREET CORPORATION LAWSUITS. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU'RE THE SPONSOR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WILL READ, MOTION AND THEN I WANT TO MOTION TO POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY. ORDINANCE NONE-2020-21.
FIRST READING. AMENDING OFFICIAL CODE, RELATIVE TO TIMES OF REGULAR SESSION, I'M SORRY.
-- LET'S DON'T GO REVISIT PLEASE.
>> LORD JESUS HELP ME. >> IT'S CONTAGIOUS.
>> ORDINANCE 92-2020-21. FIRST READING.
APPROVING A SETTLEMENT OF THE ROBINSONS OR FRANKLIN STATE
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COURT OR FEDERAL COURT LAWSUITS. I MOTION TO ADOPT.>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. DO I HEAR A SECOND? PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.
BACK TO YOU. >> I MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE
MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED TO POSTPONE THIS INDEFINITELY. YOU HAVE THIS LOOK ON YOUR FACE
MR. BAKER. >> SO MOTION TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY IS HARD TO UNDUE. IT TAKES A SUPER MAJORITY AND PROCEDURAL VOTE TO DO. I AGREE WE NEED AN ATTORNEY-COMPLAINT PRIVILEGE SESSION AND IT'S SO COMPLICATED, IT NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN MEETING.
I THINK THE MAYOR IS GOING TO CALL IT.
I WOULD SAY POSTPONE TO THE NEXT EXECUTIVE SESSION OR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING BY THE MAYOR ON THE SUBJECT MATTER.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MOTION AND SECOND AT HAND.
CORRECT? WHICH WAS TO POSTPONE.
>> CAN I WITH >> WITHOUT OBJECTION.
>> OKAY. SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO
WITH DRAW. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO WITH DRAW.
WITHOUT OBJECTION WE WILL WITHDRAW AND REPHRASE.
>> I'M GOING TO REPHRASE MY MOTION.
BACK TO YOU COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.
>> I MOTION WE POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT EXECUTIVE SESSION OR A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION SUBJECT MATTER.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION, EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION. IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.
YOU'RE LIGHT IS LIT. DO YOU WISH -- TO COMMENT? OKAY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED OR NOT.
I AGREE WITH THE SPONSOR OF THIS IN POSTSECOPONING THIS TO HAVE NONPUBLIC SESSION ESPECIALLY REGARDING THE FACT THERE HAS BEEN A NEW RULING THAT IS RECENTLY CAME DOWN AND THAT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF OUR ATTORNEY OF EXACTLY WHAT THOSE, WHAT THAT RULING MEANS FOR US AND HOW WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE DO THAT. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
13 YES. MOTION TO POSTPONE IS ADOPTED.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM NUMBER 4. ORDINANCE 93-2020-21.
AMENDING THE CODE TO HIRING OUTSIDE COUNCIL.
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 93-2020-21.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 93.
TO YOU COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> YES.
I PRESENTED THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE AS DISCUSSED BEFORE, WE KNOW WE HAVE HAD AN OUT RAGEOUS AMOUNT OF ATTORNEY FEES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. FOR ONE CASE ALONE IT WAS $1.4 MILLION. I BELIEVE THAT I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IN DOING MY RESEARCH FOR THIS MATTER, I FOUND A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE FAILING OUR CITY ATTORNEY ON. WE'RE FAILING ON GIVING HIM GOOD GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT WE NEED WHEN IT COMES TO AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY.
THIS IS AGAINST MR. BAKER. IF WE DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES WE SUPPOSED TO GIVE HIM. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY OUR ATTORNEY FEES ARE WHERE THEY ARE AT.
IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO GET UNDER CONTROL.
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WE HAVE THREE ATTORNEYS AND MUR MURPHEYS -- MURPHEESBORO AS EIGHT.WE HAVE SET MR. BAKER UP TO FAIL.
EVEN THE WAY THAT HE LOOKS FOR AND THIS IS NOT HIM, WE HAVE ALLOWED THIS. HE DOES NOT HAVE, HE USES GOOGLE TO LOOK FOR ATTORNEYS. WHEN WE HAVE A WHOLE CONTRACTING DEPARTMENT THAT COULD HELP HIM. THE WAY THAT LAW IS SET UP, IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TAX DOLLARS.
AT FIRST IT'S LIKE YOU'RE BEING REALLY HARD ON MR. BAKER.
YEAH WE ARE. BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TO HIRING OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS, THE POTENTIAL FOR CRONYISM AND NOT GET BEST ATTORNEY IN THAT THIS MATTER. WHEN IT COMES TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IT'S BASED ON EXPERIENCE.
OKAY. BUT, MY THING IS, IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO EXPERIENCE, WHEN IT COMES TO CONTRACTING.
WHEN IT COMES TO HR PRACTICES, WE HAVE TO BE DOING THE RIGHT THING AS A CITY. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE TO DISCUSS THIS OPENLY.
>> MOTION MADE GOING INTO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
>> COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
>> COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS AN INFORMAL MORE BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION. IT'S NOT LIMITED TO TWICE.
IT'S NOT LIMITED. WE CAN REALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE AS WE KNOW ON TUESDAY, ON MONDAY WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, WE HAD CERTAIN MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ASK ME IF WE WERE WILLING TO SEND TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IN MY OPINION. THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY SHOULD HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR.
THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT A FINANCE COMMITTEE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE THE STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER'S MONEY AND I THINK THAT WE ARE DOING OURSELVES A DISJUSTICE HOLDING IT UP. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BLEED AND IT NEEDS TO BE CUT OFF. ALL SENDING IT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO NEXT MONTH, WE WILL HAVE MORE ATTORNEY FEES. LET'S STOP THIS NOW.
STOP THE BLEED AS I HEARD OUR OWN CITY ATTORNEY SAY.
STOP THE BLEED AND FIX IT. WE OWE OUR TAXPAYERS THAT MUCH.
LAST MONTH WE SPENT $20,000 ON ONE CASE FOR OUTSIDE ATTORNEY FEES. LET'S FIX IT NOW.
YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS SENT. I MOTION FOR US TO GO TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. IT WAS PROPERLY SECONDED.
>> I DIDN'T HEAR A SECOND? PROPERLY SECONDED.
>> OKAY. THE MOTION IS TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WHICH IS I GUESS A ROUND ROBIN DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE. ANY, I HAVE PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT YOU WISH TO COMMENT
>> CONSIDERING THE TIME, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL TO MAYBE TRY TO PUSH THIS TO A SPECIAL SESSION TO WHERE WE CAN FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THIS.
CONSIDERING YOU WANT TO DO A COMMITTEE ON THE WHOLE WHICH IS GOING TO DO A ROUND ROBIN THIS WILL KEEP US HERE UNTIL 2:00 IN THE MORNING. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE TH TO THE NEXT EXECUTIVE SESSION OR SPECIAL SESSION CALLED BY THE MAYOR WHICH WOULD BE MORE IDEAL FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
JUST MY RECOMMENDATION. >> THANK YOU.
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COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT. COUNCILPERSON STREAM.YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> I BELIEVE WE SHOULD MOVE THIS TO ANOTHER TIME WHEN IT WAS REFERENCED FROM SOMEONE ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE SAID IT SHOULD BE MOVED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. THE SPONSOR WAS WILLING TO SEND IT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WAS GREAT THEY WANTED TO DO THAT AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THE INFORMATION TO BE GIVEN TO US AND SAID IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT HAD TO BE GIVEN TO US IN A RUSH AND WELCOMED TO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH NOT JUST MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BUT EXPERTS WHICH INCLUDE PEOPLE FROM OUR LEGAL TEAM SO THEY COULD GIVE THEIR INPUT AS THEY ARE THE EXPERTS IN LEGAL MATTERS WHEREAS WE ARE NOT. COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND.
I AGREE WITH THE SPONSOR OF THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
I BELIEVE IT'S EXCELLENT LEGISLATION.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, I HAVE RECOGNIZE IN THE PAST WHEN IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS TIME WAS OF THE ESENCE AND WE DENT GET CERTAIN AMENDMENTS AND THINGS TYPED UP.
I FELT LIKE WE LEARN FORWARD. I.
IN AWE OF THE SPONSOR TO SAY IT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE. I DO AGREE THAT FOR SOME TIME I FELT WE NEED TO EXPAND THE LEGAL TIME.
SO IF WE NEED TO EXAMINE THAT. SO I DO CONCUR WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER AS WELL I WOULD LOVE TO GET THIS BEFORE US SINGULARLY SO WE CAN DISCUSS AND DISCOVER ALL MATTERS EVEN HAVE MR. BAKER AND THE LEGAL TEAM TO REQUEST THEIR NEEDS.
WHAT DO THEY NEED SO WE KNOW. I'M LOOKING BACK AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND ALL THESE COMMITTEES, I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW AND I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THE ANSWER SPECIFICALLY MR. BAKER AND HIS TEAM FALL UNDER WHICH IS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BEGIN TO GET HIS BUDGET BEFORE US SPECIFICALLY TO SAY THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AS A GROWING CITY.
>> THE FIRST STEP IS THE MAYOR PRESENTS A BUDGET TO THE
COUNCIL. >> BUT WITH THE LINE ITEM
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS A LINE ITEM AND THERE'S LOTS IN IT.
I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT IF
THE SPONSOR IS OKAY WITH THAT. >> OKAY WITH?
>> I'M SORRY WITH MAKING THE SPECIAL, THE POSTPONEMENT.
I BELIEVE IT WAS >> THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE BE A POSTPONEMENT TO A SEPARATE SESSION CALLED BY THE MAYOR TO FULLY GET THE MATTER BEFORE US SO WE DON'T STEP OVER ANYTHING.
>> ARE YOU MOVING THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION?
>> YES BECAUSE I THINK THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER JUST SAID IT
WAS A RECOMMENDATION. >> I SECOND IT.
>> SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
TO, WHICH I WILL WRITE IT OUT TO REFER TO SPECIAL SESSION.
ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE SESSION OR JUST SESSION.
>> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT. I'M TRYING TO GET THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR AMENDMENT CORRECTLY. YOU'RE AMENDING THE MOTION TO DEFER THIS TO A SPECIAL SESSION WHERE THIS IS A
THAT WAS PROPERLY SECONDED. WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT.
CAN I PUT ON SCRAP PAPER? SO IN THE -- THE POSTPONEMENT.
THAT'S A PROCEDURAL MOTION. WE DIDN'T START WITH A WRITTEN
SO, FOR CONSISTENCY. WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND'S AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION WHICH IS TO DEFER TO A SPECIAL SESSION OR THE NEXT EXECUTIVE SESSION.
COUNCILPERSON REDD. DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO HIS
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.
THE POSTPONEMENT IF YOU CALL IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND YOU KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MEETING OF THE WHOLE OR IN INFORMAL TYPE MEETING.
WE HAVE THOSE ON THURSDAYS. WHOEVER CALLS THE MEETING, JUST PUT IT ON THE SAME DATE WE WOULD BE HAVING OUR FORMAL MEETING.
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THAT'S THE WAY THEY USED TO. THAT IS OUR COMMITTEE AS A WHOLEFOR DISCUSSING ITEMS. >> OKAY.
COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> SO WHAT I WILL TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WE WILL DO THE WORK. READ THROUGH THE INFORMATION AND WE WILL PULL RESEARCH. WE WILL PULL RESEARCH OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. IT'S NOT SO FORMAL AS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO, THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A DATE TO HAVE IT RIGHT AWAY TO STOP THE BLEED.
COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT. >> I CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED. >> PROPERLY SECONDED TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT AS PROPOSED TO DEFER.
WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION REQUIRES TWO-THIRDS OR NINE OF US. MADAM
MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION. PASSES.
WE ARE NOW ON THE AMENDMENT AS PROPOSED BY COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND. WE ARE VOTING TO THE
THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. WE ARE ON THE MAIN MOTION.
AM I CLOSE? WE ARE ON THE MAIN MOTION.
COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A DATE TO THE MAIN MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND IT. DO I HAVE TO WRITE IT DOWN? WE ARE ON THE AMENDED MAIN QUESTION.
YOU HAD THE MAIN MOTION. ORDINANCE 93.
RELATIVE TO HIRING OUTSIDE COUNCIL.
THERE WAS A MOTION AND SECOND. -- AND ACTUALLY IT'S NOT AN AMENDMENT. IF THAT HAD OR DID PASS.
YOU WOULD LITERALLY GO INTO A COMMITTEE OF WHOLE AND START TALKING ABOUT ORDINANCE 93.
SPECIAL CALLED SESSION. OR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND THAT AMENDMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER ALLEN WANTS TO AMEND THE MOTION. SHE WANTS TO SET A DEFINITE DATE. SO I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO THIS. IT MIGHT BE OUT OF ORDER.
IT'S CERTAINLY THE CHAIR'S DECISION.
>> IF WE'RE VOTING IT. IT'S SEVEN MEMBERS THAT HAVE TO VOTE AND PASS ON IT. WE'RE VOTING FOR A SPECIAL MEETING. I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.
WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS COME UP BEFORE.
IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION AND THE CHAIR IS WILLING TO ENTERTAIN IT AS SUCH, I THINK IT'S OKAY. I'M PERFECTLY FINE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS, FOR HER TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT SAYING I WANT TO, I WANT THERE TO BE A
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SPECIAL CALLED SESSION ON SUCH AND SUCH DATE AND TIME ABOUTTHIS ORDINANCE 93. >> I DON'T OBJECT TO ATTACHING A DATE TO IT. THE ONLY CONCERN IS TO MAKE SURE WE CLEAR EVERYBODY'S CALENDAR THAT CAN BE IN THE ROOM AT THAT TIME. IT MAYBE GOOD FOR US RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. I WOULD LIKE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT POSTPONING IT FOREVER. I'M TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT
10 DAYS TRYING TO FIT IT IN. >> SO MAYOR, ARE WE HAVING A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING COMING UP?
I KNOW THERE'S THINGS GOING ON. >> YES.
WE COULD ATTACH TO THAT TOO. >> YES WE COULD.
YES WE COULD. SO, MY INTENTION IS TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION THAT WOULD HAVE AN ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE PORTION TO TALK ABOUT LATEST DEVELOPMENTS, I WANT TO GIVE OR LEGAL TEAM PLENTY OF TIME TO ABSORB AND DIGEST WHAT HAS COME DOWN AND WRITE US THE BEST ADVICE AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
YES , THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL SESSION TO DEAL WITH THAT AND WE
COULD ATTACH THIS TO IT. >> THAT WOULD BE FINE.
YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS. THE MAYOR WOULD BE THE ONE TO CALL THE SPECIAL SESSION. ONE WOULD BE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE DISCUSSION OF ALL THREE LAWSUITS.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THIS CORRECT ON THE RECORD.
IT AIN'T A DISCUSSION BETWEEN Y'ALL AMONGST YOURSELF.
CAN BE NO DELIBERATION IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE SUNSHINE. WHAT WE WILL DO IS I WILL GIVE YOU ADVICE AND AN UPDATE. TELL YOU THE STATUS OF ALL THREE CASES. PROVIDE YOU LEGAL ADVICE AND YOU CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT ANY LAWSUIT, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT IN THE SUNSHINE IN AN OPEN PUBLIC MEETING AND THE SECOND WOULD BE ORDINANCE 93 AND, LET ME MAKE SURE BECAUSE I WANT EVERYBODY WALKING OUT OF HERE TO BE ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING ORDINANCE 93 FOR STUDY AND
DISCUSSION. >> FOR STUDY, DISCUSSION AND THEN WE COME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND WE
VOTE ON IT. >> SO YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE A VOTE. THAT'S FINE.
THE SPECIAL CALLED SESSION WOULD HAVE ORDINANCE 93 ON IT AND IT WOULD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO. BUT THE POINT WOULD BE DISCUSSION, DEPATE, STUDY, TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEN A VOTE.
WELL THE REASON I SAID COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
THAT'S MORE INFORMAL. A LOT OF TIMES WE GET IN A MEETING AND CAN'T SPEAK TWICE. IN A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, YOU CAN SPEAK MORE THAN TWICE. WHEN THAT ORDINANCE 93 COMES UP.
IT'S THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION AND SECOND.
THEN YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE CAN SAY ALL RIGHT.
I TO GO INTO, I MOVE WE GO INTO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
IF THERE'S A SECOND, I VOTE ON WHETHER TO GO TO COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE. VOTE PASSES AND THEN YOU'RE IN COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. THAT GOES OUT
>> SO, EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY AS WELL AS FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY.
I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THE SPECIAL SESSION TWO ORDINANCES WE PASSED ON FIRST READING TONIGHT HAVING TO DO WITH OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO DEPLOY THE CARES ACT FUNDING, MORE READILY AND MORE QUICKLY.
SO I WILL PROBABLY ADD THOSE TO THE SPECIAL SESSION SO WE CAN GET THE SECOND READING DONE AND GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR.
>> THE FIRST THING YOU'RE VOTING ON IS THE COUNCIL MEMBER RICHMOND MOTION TO POSTPONE, HE'S KIND OF OVER TAKEN YOUR
PROCEDURAL MOTION. >> WE ALREADY VOTED ON THAT.
THE >> I DON'T BELIEVE YOU VOTED ON
COUNCIL MEMBER RICHMOND. >> IT PASSED.
>> HANG ON. LET MR. BAKER AND THE CLERK SORT
IT OUT. >> YOU DIDN'T VOTE ON THE RICHMOND. YOU VOTED ON CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE RICHMOND AMENDMENT. THAT IS WHAT THE CLERK IS
LET'S BE QUIET. >> THE MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION PASSED 13-0 AND THE MOTION TO POSTPONE PASSED 13-0.
SO THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON. OKAY SO NOW YOU'RE ON ORDINANCE OR THERE IS NO REASON TO VOTE ON ORDINANCE 93 BECAUSE IT'S
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ALREADY BEEN POSTPONED. >> EVERYBODY CLEAR? AT 10 MINUTES UNTIL 10:00? OKAY.
SO WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM 5, UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
RESOLUTION 65. REQUESTS THE MAYOR TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION OF THE COUNCIL AS THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO STUDY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL PERTAINING TO THE ETHICS CODE. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN.
YOU ARE THE SPONSOR TO RECOGNIZE.
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION, NOPE, THAT'S NOT IT.
RESOLUTION 65-2020-21. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 65. TO THE SPONSOR.
>> I MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS JULY REGULAR SESSION.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION 65 UNTIL THE JULY 2021 REGULAR SESSION. PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION TO POSTPONE? SEEING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION
13 YES. >> MOTION TO POSTPONE IS ADOPTED. WE ARE READY FOR ITEM SIX.
RESOLUTION 66-2020-21. REQUESTING THE STATE OF TENNESSEE TO RECOGNIZE AUGUST 8TH AS A TENNESSEE STATE HOLIDAY. COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU ARE THE SPONSOR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE MANY TIMES AND SO ALL I WANT Y'ALL TO DO IS JUST VOTE ON THIS.
WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT. WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
LOOK AT THE TIME. IT'S ALREADY 10 O'CLOCK AND I'M READY TO GET OUT OF HERE. I HAVE SOME, I'M GOING TO PASS.
I HAVE ONE BUT IT'S TWO PETITIONS.
I DON'T HAVE, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.
PASS IT AROUND AND I WILL GET MS. SKINNER TO GIVE US MORE COPIES IF YOU WANT ONE. I RAN THOSE OFF MYSELF.
IT'S ABOUT 225 SIGNATURES ON THERE.
BUT THERE IS MORE PETITIONS OUT IN THIS COMMUNITY AT DIFFERENT
BUSINESSES. >> LET ME STOP YOU AND ASK YOU
TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THIS RESOLUTION TO BE VOTED ON ACCEPT AUGUST 8TH EMANCIPATION AS A STATE HOLIDAY.
>> MOTION MADE IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION 66 PROPERLY SECONDED NOW. BACK TO
>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH. >> MAYOR.
I WANT TO CALL, JUST LET US GO AHEAD AND PUT UP FOR VOTE.
>> WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK.
COUNCILPERSON REDD YOU'RE RECOGNIZED
>> DOES THE RESOLUTION CALL FOR THE STATE TO MAKE IT A STATE HOLIDAY TO PAY MUCH LIKE THE JUNETEENTH OR RECOGNIZED.
>> IT DOES NOT ADDRESS PAY AT ALL.
IT REQUESTS THE STATE, CERTAINLY ASSEMBLY TO PASS A LEGISLATION.
ESTABLISHING AUGUST 8TH AS A TENNESSEE OFFICIAL TENNESSEE
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING RESOLUTION 66.
ARE YOU READY TO VOTE. >> VOTING ON
ONE NO. RESOLUTION 66 IS ADOPTED.
WE'RE NOW READY FOR ENTHUSIASM SEVEN.
RESOLUTION 67-2020-21. EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE CITY COUNCIL HONORING WOMEN VETERANS. COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT YOU'RE
MAYOR. AS YOU HEARD, LAST SESSION, THIS IS A RESOLUTION HONORING WOMEN VETERANS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 67.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF RESOLUTION
>> ANYTHING ELSE COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT?
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>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THIS OR POSTPONE IT UNTIL JUNE 12TH WHEN WE CELEBRATE WOMEN'S
OKAY. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO POSTPONE
THIS RESOLUTION TO JUNE 12TH. >> YES.
>> TO THE JUNE MEETING. >> TO THE JUNE MEETING.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION 67 TO THE JUNE 2021 REGULAR SESSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO
POSTPONE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KNIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION TO ADD IF IT'S NOT IN THERE, TO ADD JUNE 12TH AS WOMEN'S VETERAN'S
YOU HEARD -- OKAY MR. BAKER. JUST BY THE HAND HERE.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MOTION TO POSTPONE FIRST.
IF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE PASSES, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WHEN IT COMES UP IN JUNE. YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THAT TO AS WHEREAS PARAGRAPH. I CAN WORK WITH YOU TO HELP YOU
DRAFT IT. >> I WILL SEND YOU E-MAIL.
>> OKAY. SO WE'RE BACK ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE TO THE JUNE 2021 REGULAR SESSION.
ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. DID YOU WISH --
WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE RUGE 67 TO THE JUNE 21ST REGULAR SESSION. MADAM CLERK.
MOTION TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION 67 PASSES.
WE WILL TAKE UP THE TWO ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT.
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>> IT HAS DIFFERENT CULTURALS. IT COULD MEAN CULTURAL BACKGROUND. IT COULD MEAN RACE. IT COULD MEAN GENDER. IT CAN BE LESBIANS, GAYS, IT CAN BE ALL. THERE'S NO LIMITATIONS. AND I THINK THIS IS THE SAME WAY THAT I HAD IT FOR THE ROXY WHEN IT PASSED. I TOOK OUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
>> SINCE WE'RE BUILDING THIS PLANE AS WE FLY IT, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF AMENDMENT THREE THAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT? >> DOES EVERYBODY HAVE IT?
>> IT'S ON THE AGENDA. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.
>> OKAY. I THINK THIS -- I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS BAD. BUT TO ME, IT RAISES SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT COULD COME UP BECAUSE, THE VERSE INCLUSIVE CAN MEAN OR COULD MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A DISPUTE BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND ONE OR MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS. AND BECAUSE IT USES THE TERM "SHALL"
IT LEAVES NO WIGGLE ROOM. >> WHAT WORD WOULD YOU LIKE TO
>> LET ME ASSUME THAT YOU WANT --
>> ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE. >> THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS GENDER, RACE, SEXUAL IDENTITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, NATIONAL ORIGIN, ETHNICITY, AND ARE THERE ANY OTHER CATEGORIES? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. LIKE SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUND OR SOMETHING. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU IS WHEN YOU SAY DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE, IN ORDER TO NOT CAUSE LEGAL PROBLEMS THAT THAT SHOULD MEAN, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DEFINE IT TO MEAN CATEGORIES AS
PROVIDED BY FEDERAL LAW -- >> --
>> YEAH, EXACTLY. WHO SAID THAT? PROTECTED CLASS CATEGORIES AS PROVIDED BY FEDERAL LAW. AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT JUST IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO OR THREE, YOU KNOW, THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT ACTUALLY CHANGED AND ADDED A WHOLE PROTECTED CLASS. SO THAT CAN CHANGE OVER TIME. I WOULD MAKE IT SAY SOMETHING LIKE, MAKING STANDING COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS, COMMA, THE MAYOR SHALL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, ACHIEVING A BALANCE BASED ON --
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AS PROVIDED BY FEDERAL LAW TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT HE CAN'T ACTUALLY ACHIEVEBALANCE. >> IT DOESN'T SAY BALANCE IN
HERE. >> I KNOW. BUT WHAT I MEAN IS IT SAYS SHALL BE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE. I THINK WHAT YOU MEANT BY THAT LAST PHRASE THERE IS, HEY, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S POSSIBLE. YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE -- IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR IN THE FUTURE, AND THERE'S NO WAY, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, TO HAVE A FEMALE ON EVERY COMMITTEE, THEN IT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T WRITE A LAW THAT THE MAYOR HAS TO APPOINT A FEMALE TO EVERY COMMITTEE WHEN THERE MAY NOT BE ENOUGH.
>> I'M TRYING TO BE CLEAR, AND I APPRECIATE IF YOU CORRECT ME.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS BE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE, AS WE LOOK AT THIS COUNCIL RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BASED ON THE COUNCIL PERSONS THAT ARE ELECTED TO SERVE THE SEAT. IT'S BASED ON THIS COUNCIL. HE WILL PICK A SELECT PEOPLE BASED ON THE DIVERSITY OF THIS COUNCIL. AND IF HE CAN'T DO THAT, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. THAT'S COMMON SENSE.
>> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S NOTHING YOU CAN SAY OR DO ABOUT IT. IF IT'S ALL WHITES, I'M USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. OR IF IT'S ALL BLACKS, THEN THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN MAKE
IT DIVERSE OR INCLUSIVE. >> OR ALL FEMALE.
>> OR ALL INDIANS, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY IT'S NO WAY POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD MAKE IT DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE IF WE JUST HAVE ONE SINGLE IDENTITY OF PEOPLE HERE.
>> RIGHT. BUT THE ISSUE IS, HOW DO WE WRITE THAT?
>> I MEAN, YOU'RE THE LAWYER. I'M PUTTING IT IN YOUR HANDS.
I'M LEAVING IT TO YOU. >> OKAY. YOU'RE RIGHT. I AM THE
LAWYER. >> I'LL LEAVE IT IN YOUR HANDS.
>> BUT IF I COULD, IT'S 10 MINUTES AFTER 10:00.
>> YES, LET'S GO. >> AND TRYING TO WRITE THIS
THING ON THE FLY. >> CAN WE JUST POSTPONE IT,
MAYOR? >> WOULD YOU BE ACCEPTABLE TO DOING THAT SO I CAN DRAFT THIS? WE'LL WORK TOGETHER AND WE'LL GET THIS RIGHT. YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT TO MOVE THIS. BUT WE'LL WORK TOGETHER IF YOU'RE WILLING TO POSTPONE AND WE'LL GET IT
RIGHT. >> THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT
>> SO WE WOULD HAVE TO POSTPONE THE MAIN MOTION IN ORDER TO GET THE AMENDMENT CORRECT. SO LET ME ASK THE SPONSOR, WOULD YOU CONSIDER A POSTPONEMENT IN ORDER TO GET THE LANGUAGE CORRECT?
COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> YES, I'LL DO THAT.
>> SECOND. >> VOTE THE AMENDMENT DOWN. OR I
>> NO SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT. SO DON'T ANYBODY SECOND IT. THEN IT DIED. THE AMENDMENT DIES FOR LACK OF SECOND. THEN YOU'RE BACK
ON THE ALLEN ORDINANCE 73. >> WE WOULD POSTPONE IT.
>> AND YOU'D POSTPONE IT. >> THE MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT DIES FOR LACK OF SECOND. NOW WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT TO THE MAY REGULAR SESSION. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO POSTPONE THIS ORDINANCE TO THE MAY REGULAR SESSION. AND IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED. I'VE GOT PEOPLE ON THE LIST TO DISCUSS.
ANYBODY WISH TO DISCUSS? COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT.
>> I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, BUT I CALL FOR THE
>> OKAY. WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION. PROPERLY SECONDED. NON-DEBATABLE. REQUIRES NINE. MADAM CLERK, WE'RE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE.
>> 13 YES. >> MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION PASSES. WE ARE NOW ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE MAY 2021 REGULAR SESSION. WE'RE VOTING ON THE EMOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE MAY 2021 REGULAR SESSION. MADAM CLERK.
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>> 13 YES. >> ORDINANCE IS POSTPONED UNTIL MAY 2021. WE ARE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 79, SECOND READING. AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 OPERATING BUDGET. THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A
SECOND TO GET IT BEFORE US. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU'RE PROPERLY RECOGNIZED.
>> CALL TO ORDER. SHE'S THE SPONSOR OF THAT.
>> BUT SHE PULLED IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WOULD GO TO HIM IF HE WISHES TO BE RECOGNIZED. GO AHEAD, COUNCIL
PERSON REYNOLDS. >> YES, THIS PROJECT REALLY CAUSED A STIR IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND JUST FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOLLOWING ALONG, WE DECIDED TO APPROPRIATE A $1 MILLION FOR OUR REGIONAL RECREATIONAL CENTER IN NORTH CLARKSVILLE AT EXIT ONE.
THIS ORDINANCE WILL SET ASIDE $1 MILLION FOR PROPERTY WE HAVE NOT ACQUIRED YET, AND A BUILDING WE DO NOT HAVE A DESIGN FOR. I THINK THAT IT IS FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO WRITE A BLANK CHECK BASED ON A LACK OF INFORMATION FOR THIS PROJECT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE REFER THE ORDINANCE TO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE, AND ASK THE CHAIRPERSON TO REPORT AT THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A LINE ITEM IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION AGENDA THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE CENTER THE BUDGET AND ENSURE THAT WE IN THE 2022 BUDGET THAT IN EXIT ONE RECREATIONAL CENTER IS EITHER IN THE BUDGET OR IT IS REPORTED WHY WE DID NOT CHOOSE TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET. CAN I DO THAT?
>> WELL I GUESS YOU CAN. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE DID OR WHAT YOU
ASKED FOR. >> OKAY. I WANT TO MOVE THIS TO
THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE. >> OKAY.
>> BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- BUT I ALSO WANT TO ASK THAT THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON REPORT BACK ON THIS ISSUE AND WHAT HAPPENED TO IT IN THE COMMITTEE.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A PROPER MOTION. AND HAS BEEN SECONDED. THE MOTION TO REFER OR COMMIT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE AND THAT THE CHAIR WOULD THEN TAKE THAT UP AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND THEN REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL THE OUTCOME OF THAT. IS THAT FAIRLY STATING YOUR MOTION?
>> YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE LIST. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER, YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THAT MOTION?
>> SURE. THANKS, MAYOR. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION. BUT SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS. OKAY. LET'S NOT DO THAT.
LET'S VOTE THIS DOWN NOW. THANKS.
>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO VOTE THIS DOWN, TOO. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IS THAT NORTH SIDE OF CLARKSVILLE BEEN WAITING TO GET A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THE LONGEST TIME. WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY -- WE HAVE NOT WRITTEN A BLANK CHECK. WE HAVE ALLOCATED $1 MILLION. IF WE DON'T USE IT, IT GOES BACK INTO THE BUDGET. WE JUST WANT THE MONEY TO BE THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS THING
MOVING. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN,
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ALSO AGREE WITH SENDING THIS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS RECREATIONAL CENTER.
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN PLANNING FOR THIS ALREADY AS IT IS. THE THING IS THIS HAS BEEN CHANGED WITHOUT REALLY ALLOWING TO HAVE THE EXPERTS AT THE TABLE WHICH WOULD BE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEIR INPUT AND LET THEM TRY AND PLAN AND SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY NEEDED. I KNOW IT WAS STATED AT FIRST BEFORE THIS WAS AMENDED THAT THE REASON GOING FROM 10 ACRES AS PARKS AND RECREATION HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT PLAN. AND GOING TO 20 ACRES SO WE CAN DO ONE PROJECT INSTEAD OF TWO. NOW IT'S THANKFULLY LEFT THE EXIT 8 PROJECT OUT OF THE EQUATION, BUT YET, WE'RE STILL AT THE 20 ACRES WHEN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW BECAUSE,
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AGAIN, PARKS AND RECREATION HASN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE TABLE AND BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION.IF 20 ACRES IS WHAT IS NEEDED, OR THE 10 IS WHAT WILL BE NEEDED. I THINK WE'LL NEED THEIR INPUT AS THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT, YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I CONCUR WITH SEVERAL OF THE VARIOUS SPEAKERS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DEBATED FOR YEARS. IT'S BEEN THROUGH PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE FOR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.
THIS ISN'T A FICTITIOUS PROJECT THAT THERE WAS NO FORESIGHT OR THOUGHT IN TO. IT'S ALREADY A CAPITAL PROJECT. SO IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY $500,000 ALLOCATED TO IT. SO WE'RE JUST ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY TO THE PROJECT SO THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IF WE ARE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE 20 ACRES VERSUS THE 10. AND IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT HISTORICALLY, IT WAS NEVER JUST LIMITING THE PROJECT TO NECESSARILY 10 ACRES.
10 ACRES WAS LIKE THE CONDOMINIUM THRESHOLD FOR WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR A REGIONAL FACILITY. IDEALLY, I'VE EVEN HAD CONVERSATIONS, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 40 ACRES IF WE COULD GET IT. THE REALITY IS IN THIS TYPE OF MARKET TO GET 40 ACRES FROM ANYBODY RIGHT NOW IS PRETTY TOUGH, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE HOPING TO GET IT AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE. IT'S JUST REALLY TOUGH ON EVERYBODY TO GET LAND.
I WOULD ASKING MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE THIS DOWN. WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON IT ONCE. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING ONGOING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE CREATED A CAPITAL PROJECT OR ADD MONEY TO A CAPITAL PROJECT WITHOUT A PARTICULAR SITE PLAN OR RENDERING OF WHAT THE FUTURE OF IT COULD LOOK LIKE. SO LET'S NOT ACT BRAND NEW NOW. THANK YOU,
MAYOR. >> COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND,
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY TO NOT VOTE THIS DOWN. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE JUST PLAYING TUG OF WAR HERE. UNLESS I'M MISINFORMED, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROJECT IS FROM THE MONEY BEING ALLOCATED, NOW WE GO IN TO DISCUSSING WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE RACING SOMETHING JUST TO GET IT BEFORE A TECHNICALITY COMMITTEE TO COME BACK TO THE SAME PLACE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, I FEEL. WE VOTED IT DOWN ALREADY ON THE GOING TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE. WHAT'S CHANGED? WE HAD A VOTE ON IT ALREADY. NOW WE'RE PLAYING POLITICS, I FEEL. AND I'M NOT HERE TO PLAY POLITICS. SO I ASK THAT YOU VOTE THIS DOWN, AND WE'RE JUST -- WE'RE HAVING AN EGO BATTLE, I FEEL. IT'S BEEN VOTED DOWN. AND THE REASON I VOTED IT DOWN TO GO TO PARKS AND REC IS BECAUSE MY FIRST YEAR IN PARKS AND REC, WE SAT AROUND AND PING PONGED IT TO DEATH. AND I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE THE SIX OR SEVEN YEARS. I SAID, IT'S TIME WE ANSWER TO THE RESIDENTS.
YOU'VE GOT 10 MILLION ON ONE PROJECT. ON -- OR WHATEVER THE BUDGET IS. AND NORTH CLARKSVILLE ONLY WANTED -- LET'S CREATE A WIN-WIN. I'M TIRED OF SEEING CLARKSVILLE GO BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE HAVES AND HAVE NOTS. AND FINALLY, WE GOT A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ALL OF US. SO YEAH, I'M NOW GETTING A LITTLE PASSIONATE. I DON'T SAY MUCH. AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S TIME TO STOP POLITICKING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND ENOUGH ABOUT INFIELD AND OUTFIELD DEVELOPMENT, AND GREEN FIELD DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M LEARNING. BUT ALL I KNOW IS I HAVE A PASSION FOR PEOPLE AND KIDS. THAT'S MY HOT BUTTON. ELDERLY, AND THOSE KIDS SEEING THEM PLAY IN DANGEROUS STREETS, THEY JUST WANT A REC CENTER. THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO WALTZ IN HERE AND SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. SO I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR THOSE RESIDENT KIDS IN WARD ONE. WE CAN'T INVEST $1 MILLION IN THE KIDS? COME ON, WHAT ARE WE DOING?
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> COUNCIL PERSON NIE, YOU'RE
>> COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THIS WOULD ALSO BENEFIT MY DISTRICT.
IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO MY AREA. MY CONCERN IS THE REPORT CAME BACK WITH THE 10 ACRES THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT THE FIELDS. AND AGAIN, WE WERE THIS CLOSE TO THE BUDGET. I JUST THINK THAT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, WE WOULD WAIT AND DO THIS AS PART OF THE
BUDGET PROCESS. >> COUNCIL PERSON NEL, YOU'RE
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RECOGNIZED. >> IF THIS THING GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH, WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND GET THE MONEY. THIS IS MY WARD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. LIKE I TOLD Y'ALL, WHEN THE WHOLE VOTE CAME TO SWITCH THE MONEY FROM THIS SPORTS COMPLEX, MY WARD WAS LIKE DO IT. SO $1 MILLION JUST FOR IT TO BE IN THE BUDGET IS NOT GOING TO HURT IT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T USE IT, GUESS WHAT? IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE BUDGET.
IT'S NOT BEING USED. WE'VE GOT THREE MONTHS LEFT UNTIL THE BUDGET IS OVER. WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT TO THE PARKS AND REC FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS? NO. IF PARKS AND REC IS ON THEIR JOB AND THEY GET SOMETHING DONE. THAT'S WHY I'M ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT WHY WE GOT TO SEND IT TO THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS NOT A HIERARCHY. WE ARE THE CITY COUNCIL. WE GOTTA MAKE THESE DECISIONS. AND WE GOTTA
STOP THIS MESS. >> PARKS AND REC IS DOING THEIR
JOB. COUNCIL PERSON. >> I AGREE THAT WE DO NEED SOMETHING IN NORTH CLARKSVILLE. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
THE PEOPLE OF NORTH CLARKSVILLE HAVE BEEN WAITING. THEY'VE BEEN DEBATING. THEY'VE BEEN STRESSED. WHEN I LIVED IN GEORGIA, ONE THING I LEARNED ABOUT THE GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEM, LOCALLY, IT WAS LIKE THE CITY GIVES EACH WARD MONEY FOR WHAT THEY WANT IN THEIR WARD. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CALL THEM DISTRICTS OR WARDS.
THEY MIGHT HAVE CALLED THEM PARISH, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T REMEMBER. BUT THEY WERE ALLOTTED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY. WHAT DO YOU WANT IN YOUR WARD? WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT TO SEE? WE HAVE A PROBLEM JUST GIVING $1 MILLION OVER TO NORTH CLARKSVILLE. I'M FROM BOTH OF THESE FACILITIES. AND WE JUST NEED TO JUST THINK ABOUT THIS. LET'S JUST DO WHAT'S RIGHT. I'M ALWAYS REMINDED OF WHAT DR. KING SAID, IT IS ALWAYS RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. AND THEN I WANT TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> YOU CAN'T COMMENT AND THEN CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> I WISH I COULD. >> I WISH YOU COULD, TOO. BUT YOU CAN'T. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY ALSO WITHOUT A DOUBT, LIKE I SAID, PARKS AND RECREATION IS FULLY AWARE OF THE NEED OF THE RECREATION CENTER. THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN IN THE PLAN. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT. ALSO SERVED TWO YEARS AND WORKED WITH THEM DILIGENTLY. THEY ARE ON THEIR JOB. OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS AN AMAZING DEPARTMENT. THEY WORK HARD AND WORK TO FIND WAYS OF GIVING TO OUR COMMUNITY. PRIOR TO THE EXIT 8, WHICH WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING BUILT BECAUSE THESE THINGS DO TAKE TIME. WHEN THINGS ARE DONE PROPERLY, THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE TIME. PRIOR TO THAT ADDITION, THE ONLY THING THAT WARD 10 HAD IS THE CROW CENTER. WE'RE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THREE LOWEST IN REGARD TO HAVING ANY TYPES OF PARKS OR RECREATION IN OUR WARD. BUT AGAIN, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS WORKING HARD TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITY. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO SAY
THAT. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, I'VE GOT
TWO CHECKMARKS. >> I JUST WANTED TO APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB. I SAID IF THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB, THEY'LL HAVE THE MONEY.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MY QUESTION IS SO SENDING IT BACK TO PARKS AND REC, HOW DOES THAT -- SO WHERE THE PROJECT IS NOW, HOW DO THEY NOT GET TO WEIGH IN ON IT? MAYBE I'M REMISS OF SOME INFORMATION BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE SAYING LET'S BUMP IT TO PARKS AND REC TO HAVE THEM WEIGH IN ON IT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE EXPERTS. WHICH I AGREE. THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB, WHICH I AGREE. HOW IS IT THAT THE PARKS AND REC AREN'T ALLOWED TO INTERJECT ON THE PROJECT? AM I MISSING SOME
INFORMATION? >> IS THAT IN THE FORM OF A
QUESTION? >> YES, SIR. SO WHERE IT IS NOW, HOW DOES PARKS AND REC ARE THEY NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON IT BECAUSE OF WHERE THE PROJECT IS NOW?
>> YOU CAN REFER -- OR DIRECT THAT QUESTION TO THE SPONSOR OF THE MOTION, IF YOU PREFER, WHICH IS COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.
>> YES. >> AND SHE CAN TRY AND ANSWER IT FOR YOU. AND I'LL ALLOW THAT. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, DO YOU
WISH TO ADDRESS THAT? >> YES, I SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, SHE INDICATED SHE HAD ENOUGH MONEY
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IN HER BUDGET TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.AGAIN, IT WAS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD, BUT IT WAS ENOUGH MONEY IN HER BUDGET THAT ONCE THE DECISION MADE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY WAS MADE, SHE ALREADY HAD THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN HER BUDGET. AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE SAYING IT'S ONLY $1 MILLION. BUT IT'S 1 MILLION TAX DOLLARS. AND PARKS OF REC SAYS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR THEY HAVE ENOUGH TO PURCHASE. IF IT IS DECIDED THAT THAT IS THE PROPERTY TO BUILD ON, THAT THEY ALREADY HAD IN THEIR BUDGET. I HAD THAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN LAST -- I SPOKE DIRECTLY TO MS. LATERNO.
>> HOW DOES THEM ALREADY HAVING THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHETHER IT GOES BACK TO THEM OR NOT? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHATEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, PARKS AND REC IS TRYING TO DO THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T VOTE IT BACK UP TO THEM?
>> LET'S DON'T HAVE A RUNNING DEBATE HERE.
>> I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY ON WHAT ARE THEY NOT -- SO IT OCCURS RIGHT NOW THAT PARKS AND REC IS NOT ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE WAY SOME LANGUAGING IS OR SOMETHING. AND THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN, WHICH GOT VOTED DOWN. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE MILLION DOLLARS IS THERE TO DO THE PROJECT, CORRECT?
>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF --
>> WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON THAT. >> AND ADD $1 MILLION TO THAT
CAPITAL PROJECT LINE ITEM. >> SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET,
GOTCHA. >> SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NORTH CLARKSVILLE RECREATION CENTER. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEBATING.
>> OKAY. GOT YOU. >> BUT ACTUALLY, WE'RE REALLY DEBATING ON THE COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLD'S MOTION TO COMMIT, REFER IT BACK TO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE, WHICH ARE
THE CHAIR. >> AND I THOUGHT IT FAILED. ARE WE BRINGING IT BACK UP? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE FIRST READING -- OKAY, SO WE'RE HAVING A SECOND GO AT SHOULD IT GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. COULD YOU GIVE US SOME CLARITY?
>> IT'S 10:30. >> DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE NATURE
OF MY QUESTION? >> I THINK SO. LET ME SEE IF I CAN ANSWER IT. WE HAVE THE RED RULE. THE RED RULE DOES NOT APPLY TO PROCEDURAL MOTIONS. EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS ON FIRST READING, THERE WAS A MOTION TO REFER IT TO A COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A PROCEDURAL MOTION, AND THAT FAILED, SOMEBODY NOW ON SECOND READING CAN MAKE THE SAME MOTION AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A PROCEDURAL
MOTION. >> IS THAT LIKE CALLING FOR THE QUESTION KIND OF THING? NO, A PROCEDURAL MOTION, FAIL ONCE,
YOU CALL FOR IT AGAIN. >> YES. I'M SORRY, IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU ASKED.
>> OKAY. COUNCIL PERSON RICHMOND, DID THAT HELP?
>> YES, SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S BEING BROUGHT UP FOR THE SECOND TIME LET'S TALK ABOUT, DISCUSS WHETHER WE SHOULD TAKE IT UP TO
THE COMMITTEE OR NOT. >> RIGHT.
>> REFER IT TO THE COMMITTEE OR NOT. OKAY. AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT THE FIRST TIME AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER IT AGAIN.
>> YES. >> GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY. COUNCIL PERSON GARRETT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF. I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE JUST GOTTA GET OVER USING THIS DEFERRING THINGS TO A COMMITTEE AS A WEAPON. IT'S LIKE FOR THINGS THAT SOMEBODY'S AGAINST --
>> CAN I ASK YOU TO PULL YOUR MIC CLOSER TO YOU?
>> ALL RIGHT, SO YOU KNOW, DEFERRING THINGS TO A COMMITTEE OR POSTPONING IT TO A COMMITTEE, HOWEVER WE WANT TO PHRASE IT HAS BECOME ALMOST A WEAPON TO KILL SOMETHING OR TO POSTPONE IT UNTIL IRRELEVANCE. IT'S SOMEWHAT ONE-SIDED. IT GETS UTILIZED TO JUST SQUELCH CERTAIN THINGS, BUT OTHER THINGS WILL GO FORWARD THAT USING THAT SAME LOGIC SHOULD APPLY FOR. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO JUST CHILL OUT WITH IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ELECTED HERE TO GET TO VOTE ON THE ISSUES THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE PUTTING BEFORE US. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DEBATED AS I MENTIONED GOING ON SEVEN YEARS NOW. TO SEND IT BACK TO A COMMITTEE WHERE IT STARTED. AND YOU KNOW, I APPLAUD SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS THAT HAVE THAT TIME OF RELATIONSHIP WHERE THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE REQUESTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS TO GET THE INFORMATION. BUT WHEN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO EXTEND A SURVEY AND APPRAISE TO HOLD 20 ACRES NOW THAT THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO SELL IT TO THE CITY, AND I GET
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AN EMAIL REPORTED TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT I'M TRYING TO DIRECT A DEPARTMENT HEAD, THAT'S A BARRIER. THAT'S A BARRIER TO ME DOING A JOB TO INQUIRE ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTITUENTS OF NORTH CLARKSVILLE. I'M SIMPLY ASKING A QUESTION OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND I'M BEING REPORTED FOR DIRECTING A DEPARTMENT HEAD. SO KUDOS TO Y'ALL THAT HAVE THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT AND NOT GET THE SCATHING EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED, BUT IT'S GONE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE. IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECS. AFTER THAT RECOURSE, I TOOK IT TO THE COUNCIL AND MY PEERS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. SO SENDING IT BACK THROUGH THIS CYCLE TO KEEP GOING OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS POINTLESS. LET'S DISPOSE OF IT JUST LIKE WE DID THE FIRST TIMEAROUND AND MOVE FORWARD. >> POINT OF INFORMATION, MAYOR.
>> POINT OF INFORMATION, COUNCIL PERSON STREETMAN.
>> I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE OF US THAT HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS AND ASKING THE
DEPARTMENT HEADS TO SPEND MONEY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. BACK TO YOU COUNCILPERSON GARRETT.
>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR. >> OKAY. COUNCIL PERSON RED,
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME FEELING THAT A COMMITTEE OR WANTING TO PUT SOMETHING TO A COMMITTEE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS DID NOT GO TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE PARKS AND REC. I THINK WE HAD A JOINT COMMITTEE THERE WITH THEM. SAYING THAT A COMMITTEE IS A HIERARCHY OR IT'S KIND OF A WEAPON. COMMITTEES IS WHERE YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE, AND THE LEGAL CAN ALSO COME IN ON THAT.
THERE'S LAND USAGE THAT CAN BE USED FOR SOME THINGS. I DON'T THINK COMMITTEES IS NECESSARILY A HIERARCHY OR SOME WAY TO BE USED AS A WEAPON. BECAUSE WITH THIS BODY, IF SOMETHING GOES TO A COMMITTEE WHETHER IT PASSES OR FAILS, WE'RE DIFFERENT FROM THE STATE LAEJTS CHUR. I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO GET THE IDEA THAT OH, THEY'RE TRYING TO SEND SOMETHING THERE. WHERE IT CAN NEVER COME BACK TO THIS BODY. IF SOMEBODY FAILSUSC-CBU159357
>> THEN WHEN WE BRING OUR PROPOSAL HERE WE CAN GIVE THAT REPORT.
MUCH LIKE THE ZONING REQUEST. EVERY ONE OF THEM, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PACKET AT THE ZONING REQUEST. THE STREET DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT IT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A LOT OF THESE DEPARTMENTS. I WISH WE WOULD NOT SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY ARE LIKE A HIERARCHY OR A PLACE FOR A WEAPON OR SOMETHING. BUT THANK YOU.
>> CANCEL PERSON YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR I AGREE THAT THE NORTH SIDE OF CLARKSVILLE NEEDS MORE RECREATION FOR OUR CHILDREN.
I ALSO AGREE THAT COMMITTEES ARE USEFUL IN THE SENSE THAT YOU CAN TAKE A DEFINITIVE LOOK, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY OR WHATEVER PURPOSE THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING BY SENDING IT TO A COMMITTEE. AS A MATTER FACT, ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION IT IS SO EFFICIENT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF COMMITTEES THAT THEY HAVE. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THIS, A
CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >> NICE TRY. NICE TRY.
>> I TRIED. HANG ON. >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU ARE
NEXT ON THE LIST. >> I CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >> THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED ON THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT TO REFER? FERGUSON?
>> YES. >> ON THE REYNOLDS MOMENT. WE ARE GOING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT. WHEN YOU ARE READY.CEASING
DISCUSSION.> MS. BUTLER. >> AYE. >> AYE.
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>> MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION PASSES AND WE ARE NOW ON THE REYNOLDS MOMENT DEFERRED FOR THE. WE ARE VOTING ON THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT.
MOUNTAIN QUICKLY ARE READY. >> THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT NAY. >> YES.
>> YES. >> NO. >> SIX YES, SEVEN NO.
>> THE AMENDMENT FAILS AND WE ARE NOW BACK ON THE MAIN MOTION FOR ORDINANCE 79.
YES. WE ARE ON THE MAIN MOTION. RDINANCE 79 SECOND READING.
ANYBODY ELSE WAS TO BE RECOGNIZED? WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE MAIN MOTION OF THE SECOND READING ORDINANCE 79. MADAM CLERK WHENEVER YOU ARE
>> NO. >> NO. >> EIGHT YES, FIVE ENOUGH.
>> ORDINANCE 79 IS ADOPTED SECOND READING. WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE DISCUSSION ITEM REGARDING MAYORS AGAINST OLD GT QI PLUS DISCRIMINATION YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.> THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I WAS GOING TO, IT IS LATE BUT I DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THIS MEANS A LOT TO ME. SORRY GUYS.
I MEAN IT IS IMPORTANT. SO, LIKE I SAID ON MONDAY, MAYORS AGAINST LGBTQ I AM IS A SUMMATION AND A PROMISE TO STAND AGAINST LGBTQ DISCRIMINATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS WEBSITE ONE MORE TIME. MAYORS AGAINST LGBTQ DISCRIMINATION IS A BIPARTISAN COALITION OF MUNICIPAL LEADERS DEDICATED TO SECURING INCLUSIVE NONDISCRIMINATION PROTECTIONS FOR ALL. INCLUDING LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS AND ETC. AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.
WE RECOGNIZE THIS SPECIAL ROLE THAT MAYORS PLAY IN PROTECTING THE RIGHTS AND SAFETY OF RESIDENTS AND IN ADVANCING POLICIES THAT MOVE OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR COUNTRY FORWARD. THERE ARE ONLY 430 COALITION MEMBERS CURRENTLY IN ALL 50 STATES. I AM NOT 430 IN EACH 50 STATES BUT AS A WHOLE ONLY 430 MAYORS HAVE COMMITTED TO PROTECTING THEIR LGBTQ COMMUNITIES. I LIKE TO READ THESE BILLS ARE BEING CONSIDERED IN THE STATE. HB 0003, THE TRANSGENDER SPORTS BAND THAT WAS ALREADY PAST.
HB ZERO 800 THE BANNING OF LGBTQ CONTENT FROM PUBLIC SCHOOL CURRICULUM.
IT IS BEING CONSIDERED. HB 059/ SUBSECTION 1229 REQUIRING SCHOOLS TO LET PARENTS OPT OUT OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION/GENDER IDENTITY CURRICULUM.
HB 1223 SUBSECTION 1367 SCHOOL DISCRIMINATION AND EXCLUSION AGAINSTTRANSGENDER STUDENTS .
HB 1182 AND DIED INCLUSIVE TRANSGENDER RESTAURANT SIGNAGE. B MARCH 7, 2002 OPT OUT OF WORKPLACE INCLUSION TRAININGS. CRIMINALIZES GENDER FORMING CARE FOR TRANSGENDER YOUTH.
BY CARE THAT MEANS HORMONES. AND MENTAL HEALTH ETC.. IT DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN GENDER
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AFFIRMING SURGERY. HB 1027 SUBSECTION 0126 THE CAPTION BILL THAT WILL CARRY AN AMENDMENT THAT REGULATES GENDER AFFIRMING CARE FOR TRANSGENDER YOUTH.THIS INCLUDES MEDICATION, MENTAL HEALTH AND NOT ALWAYS GENDER AFFIRMING SURGERY.
I URGE YOU TO STAY COMMITTED TO PROTECTING OUR GOP TEACH YOU COMMUNITY.
AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY AGAIN AS A WOMAN WHO GREW UP WITH A SISTER WHO IS GAY AND THE MOTHER OF A SON WHO IS GAY, WHEN MY SON CAME OUT TO ME ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO THE FIRST THING I SAID TO MY SON WAS I LOVE YOU BUT IT IS NOT SAFE.
TOLD MY SON HE CANNOT TELL ANYONE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SAFE. IT WAS ONLY TWO YEARS AFTER THEY HAD BEEN A SOLDIER TO DEATH ON BASE FOR BEING GAY. THAT WAS 15 YEARS AGO.
IT IS EVEN LESS SAFE FOR OUR LGBTQ COMMUNITY. AS WE DO THIS, I WANT EVERYONE WHO IS NOT PRIVILEGED AND WHITE TO REALIZE THIS IS NOT ALL ABOUT THE LGBTQ.
IF YOU GO BACK AND READ SOME OF THESE SLAVES THE HATE BILLS THEY DON'T SPECIFICALLY SAY JUST GAY. THEY SAY THEY CAN OPT OUT OF DIVERSITY TRAINING AND THAT MEANS AND THAT MEANS RACIAL, SEXUAL ORIENTATION BUT ALSO MEANS RACEDISCRIMINATION , SEX IS COMMISSION AND THEY ARE SETTING UP AGENDAS THAT WILL BE MUCH MORE WIDESPREAD.
PAY ATTENTION AND KNOW THAT MY SON WILL NEVER COME BACK TO TENNESSEE.
HE IS THE SON OF TWO PARENTS WHO, TOGETHER, HAVE OVER 80 YEARS OF SERVICE TO OUR NATION IN A PAIR OF COMBAT BOOTS. BOTH OF HIS PARENTS ARE COMBAT VETERANS.
IN THIS NATION WE ARE MAKING IT UNSAFE AND THE STATE OF TENNESSEE IS CONTINUALLY ATTACKING THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN. AGAIN, SOME OF YOU THINK IT IS SAFE AND SOME OF YOU THINK IT IS OKAY AND IS ONLY THE GAY GUYS.
IF YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION THIS HAS WIDESPREAD ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE WAS TO BE RECOGNIZED?
COUNCILPERSON ALAN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK COUNCILPERSON, COUNCILPERSON EVANS AND COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS FOR GIVING US A LITTLE INSIGHT.
AT TIMES WE ALL NEED TO TAKE THE TIME TO STEP BACK AND REALIZE THAT AT SOME POINT WE ARE ALL A MINORITY. BECAUSEYOU CAN BE A MINORITY WHEN IT COMES TO AGE, SEX, GENDER , SEXUAL ORIENTATION. I MEAN, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST MONDAY. WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STICKING TOGETHER AS DISCRIMINATED POPULATIONS THEN WE WILL GO FAR BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ONE PERSON WHO IS NOT EVER BEEN DISCRIMINATED FOR SOMETHING. IF YOU HAVEN'T, BELIEVE ME, ONCE YOU GET OLD ENOUGH NOT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, YOU WILL.
I APPLAUD YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS NOT ON THIS BUT SINCE EVERYONE IS ALREADY GETTING READY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GIVE YOU THE
HEAD'S UP THAT I HAVE A PUBLIC STATEMENT TO MAKE. >> SO NOTED.
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ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO COMMENT OR DISCUSS THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE WE ARE UNDER MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS I WILL COME TO YOU COUNCILPERSON BUTLER AND THEN I WILL GET TOTHE OTHERS. >> I APOLOGIZE AND I DON'T WANT TO SEEM LIKE THAT WAS TAKING AWAY FROM THAT STATEMENT. SORRY. I APOLOGIZE THAT IT IS LATE AND I HAD WRITTEN THIS OUT AND PLAN TO SPEAK IT LONG BEFORE WE WERE HERE THIS LONG.
IT IS IN RESPONSE TO A SLURRY OF EMAILS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST MONTH.
OVER THE PAST YEAR FOR COVID PANDEMIC HAS AFFECTED ALMOST EVERY FACET OF OUR LIVES.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN SUPPORT OF MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCING BUT I HAVE ALSO BEEN AGAINST OUR GOVERNMENT, AT ANY LEVEL, MANDATING INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOR. BECAUSE GOOD IDEAS DO NOT REQUIRE FORCE. IT IS MY HOPE THAT CLARKSVILLE CONTINUES TO SET THE STANDARD.
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I ENCOURAGED OUR COMMUNITY TO REMAIN VIGILANT AND NOT ALLOW FEAR TO TURN US INTO A CITY THAT WOULD WELCOME EXCLUSION BASED ON IMMUNIZATION STATUS. WE SHOULD ALWAYS SUPPORT AN INDIVIDUAL TAKING PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THE MANNER THAT THEY DEEM FIT. WE SHOULD NEVER DEMAND THAT SOMEONE INJECTED SOMETHING INTO THEIR BODY UNWILLINGLY AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TRAVEL LOCALLY, GO TO THE STORE OR PERFORM DAILY NECESSITIES WITHOUT HAVING TO PRESENT AT THEIR PRIVATE MEDICAL INFORMATION. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY.FROM THE BEGINNING OUR CITY LEADERS HAVE SAID THAT WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO KEEP THAT SAME ENERGY AND REJECT NOTIONS SUCH AS VACCINE
PASSPORTS. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT, YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MARY. GUESS THIS WOULD BE TO YOU AND MAYBE MR. BAKER WOULDLIKE TO CHIME IN ON IT. WHAT IS SEE IF IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO RETURN TO REGULAR MEETINGS WITHOUT DOING THIS ELECTRONIC MEETING THINGS WOULD
GO BACK TO PUTTINGITEMS ON THE BOARD , ? >> WE ARE RIGHT NOW ALLOWED TO DO ELECTRONIC MEETINGS DUE TO THE MAYOR'S ORDER. I THINK WE HAVE MEMBERS AND WANT TO DO THAT OPTION A LITTLE BIT LONGER. WE ARE WATCHING THE DATA CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE. WE ARE NOT IN A ROOM THAT IS LIKE THE COUNTY COMMISSION CHAMBERS THAT IS LARGE. WE WILL BE CAN SPREAD OUT. WE ARE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND EVEN ON TOP OF THE PUBLIC. OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO RESUME AS MUCH NORMALCY AS QUICKLY AS WE
CAN BUT ALSO TO BE SMART AND SAFE. >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON NIGHT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU MARY AND I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS MONTH IS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH.
HAVING TWO CHILDREN WITH AUTISM MYSELF I WANT TO MAKE THAT NOTED.
ALSO THIS MONTH IS THE MONTH OF THE MILITARY CHILD. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON RIGHT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY IT IS AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT FROM COUNSEL LADY BUTLER AND A MAN TO WHAT SHE JUST GOT
THROUGH SAYING. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT COMMENTS BASED UPON WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, HE SAID HE WANTS TO GO BACK TO REGULAR MEETINGS.
I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE. HERE HAVE BEEN TWO PEOPLE THAT I KNOW OF THAT WERE CLOSE TO DYING OF COVID BACK TO BACK. WHAT I AM SAYING IS, I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP ON MEETING VIRTUALLY AND IF YOU WANT TO COME IN IN PERSON, THAT IS GOOD. I TRY TO MAKE IT ALL OF MY COUNCIL MEETINGS BUT OTHER MEETINGS I TRIED TO DO IT FOR JULIE. THIS MEETING IS NECESSARY BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL DYING FROM COVI JUST LOST TWO FRIENDS. ONE OF THE FARM AND SISTER THAT WE ALL MET AND SHE JUST DIED.
WITH THAT BEING SAID I AM READY TO GO HOME. >> COUNCILPERSON ALAN YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO EVERYONE TO HAVE A HAPPY RESURRECTION DAY COMING UP HERE THIS WEEKEND. AND HAVE FUN EASTER EGG HUNTING IF THAT IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE APPROPRIATE YOU DO TO CELEBRATE THIS WONDERFUL DAY AND DON'T FORGET THAT CITY COUNCIL AND WORD EIGHT IS HAVING A COMMUNITY YARD SALE IN MARLOW COURT. ON THE THIRD. THANK YOU.
>> SATURDAY MORNING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.