[1) CALL TO ORDER]
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>> THE JUNE 22ND, 2021, SPECIAL SESSION IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER. MY WIFE CYNTHIA WILL BE THE PLEDGE OF THE DAY AND COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN, I ASK YOU TO STAND IF YOU WISH.
>> LIKE, EVERYONE IF THEY WOULD LOVE TO IN DOING THE LORD'S PRAYER, THE COUNCIL PEOPLE AND
THOSE IN OUR CHAMBER. >> OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOW BE OUR NAME, THIGH KINGDOM COME THIGH WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. GIVE US THIS DAY. AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL FOR THEIN IS THE KINGDOM AND THE POWER AND THE GLORY FOREVER, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL."
>>> OKAY. MEMBERS, PLEASE REGISTER YOUR ATTENDANCE. >> PLEASE REGISTER YOUR
ATTENDANCE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE ROLL. >> IT'S ON THE SCREEN I SEE IN
FRONT OF ME. >> HAVE YOU GOT BLINKING? >> THERE IT IS. THERE WE GO.
TAKE THE ROLL. (ROLL TAKEN) >> ALL COUNSEL MEMBERS ARE
[5) FY22 BUDGETS]
PRESENT. WE'RE NOW READY FOR THE FIRST ORDER ON OUR THE FIRST ORDER ON OUR AGENDA ORDINANCE READING AMENDING THE FY21 OPERATING BUDGET AND APPROVING THE FY22 OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. I'LL ENTERTAIN ANMOTION. >> A MOTION. >> AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE
120? >> SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE.
>> ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. >>> EVERY MEMBER VOTED? ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE
VOTE. >> MADAM CLERK? >> 12 YES, 1 NO, ZERO OBJECT
STAIN. >> NEXT ITEM >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ORDINANCE ORDINANCE READING AMENDING THE FY21 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS AND ADOPTING THE FY22 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR CDE
LIGHTBAND. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOTION.
>> SECOND. MOTION'S MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR ORDER 2 ONE. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS RECORDING ORDINANCE 121. SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE, READY IT VOTE? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE?
>> 13 YES, 0 NO, 0 OBJECT STAIN. >> SECOND READING ADOPTED.
NEXT ITEM NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ORDINANCE ORDINANCE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS AND ADOPTING THE FY22 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR CLARKSVILLE TRANSIT SYSTEM. I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION'S MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDER 122. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE ONE 22? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE. READY TO VOTE.
>> ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. >>> EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR
VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 12 YES, 1 NO, 0 OBJECT
STAIN. >> ADOPTED SECOND READING NOW READY FOR FY21 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS AND ADOPTING THE FY22 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR CLARKSVILLE GAS & WATER DEPARTMENT. MOTION'S MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF 123, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING ORDINANCE 123. SEEING NONE HEARING NON, ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE.
MADAM CLERK? >> 13 YES, 0 NO, ORDINANCE ADOPTED.
ADOPTED. NOW FOR ORDINANCE APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME
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INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP FUNDS AS WELL AS OTHER PROGRAMS. I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.>> MOTION. MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR ORDINANCE 124, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 124, SEEING NONE ARE YOU READY TO VOTE. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE.
>>> EVERY MEMBER VOTED? ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE
VOTE. >> 13 YES, 0 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. ORDINANCE 124 ADOPTED, SECOND READING. WE'RE NOW READY FOR 6 ORDER. I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECOND IN FAVOR OF 125, ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 125, SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR
VOTE. >>> EVERY MEMBER VOTED ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE
VOTE? >> MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 12 YES. 1 NO, 0 ABTAN.
ORDER 125 ADOPTED. WE'RE NOW READY FOR ORDER 126 SECOND READING AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 21 OPERATING BUDGET AND ESTABLISHING THE FISCAL YEAR 22 OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE
CLARKSVILLE PARKING COMMISSION A PROPRY TARE FUND. >> WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING A MANAGEMENT FEE OF APPROXIMATELY $336,000 ANNUALLY, WHAT IS THAT
FEE? >> WELL, THAT OBJECTION, I'LL ASK OUR CFO TO ANSWER THAT.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND. >> SO, THE PARKING FUND IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND IT CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE IT'S OWN ACCOUNTING STAFF AND CUSTOMER SERVICE STAFF SO MY DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES THAT. SO IT'S THE TIME ALLOCATED OF MY ACCOUNTANTS, THE REVENUE PEOPLE DOWN STAIRS THAT ARE AT THE WINDOW WE HAVE ONE DEDICATED EMPLOYEE THAT JUST DOES PARKING DOWN THERE AND WE ALSO HAVE METER PEOPLE WHO GO OUTND A READ THE METERS AND COLLECT MONEY.
AND THE MAINTENANCE RIGHT NOW IS UNDER MY DEPARTMENT, NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE UNDER THE BUILDING FACILITY MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHAT IT'S REIMBURSING AND IT REIMBURSING ACTUAL EXPENSES
OVER ONLY. >> WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT WHEN YOU TRANSFER?
>> INTERSERVICE TRANSFER BUT THEY'RE REALLY JUST PAYING FOR SERVICES BECAUSE THEY'RE AN ENTERPRISE FUND THEY'RE JUST PAYING FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I'M SORRY, KEEP GOING.
>> YES, SO, I KNOW THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY DOCUMENTATION INDICATING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE PARKING OVER TO PREMIERE PARKING OR CONTRACT PARKING, I JUST WANT TO VERIFY
THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE WILL VOTE ON THAT IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WILL GET A CHANCE TO VOTE ON ANY PROPOSAL LIKE THAT. AND I HAVE NOT DECIDED WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THAT OPTION. WE'VE STILL GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS AROUND CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT COMPANY
SO WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET. >> BUT WE WILL VOTE BEFORE? >> THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WILL HAVE
TO APPROVE IT. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> JUST TO JUSTIFY MY NO VOTE ON THIS, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE PARK CAN COMMISSION'S AGENDAS AND MINUTES FOR THE LAST YEAR AND AND-A-HALF, NOT A FAN OF HOW ANY OF THIS RUNS, NOT A FAN OF PREMIERE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, BEFORE NEXT BUDGET THAT WE DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. IT IS IN THE RED THIS YEAR. THERE HAVE BEEN SERIOUS PROBLEMS, WE TALK ABOUT IT LAST WEEK CONCERNING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT ON THE SENSORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, I JUST REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON FIXING IN THE FUTURE. AND, I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE BUDGET. THANK
YOU. >>> THANK YOU. BELIEVE ME, WE'RE WORKING ON IT HARD AS WE CAN TO TRY AND FIGURE IT OUT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 126. SEEING NONE HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE. 10 YES. 3 OH NO, 0 OBTAIN. ORDINANCE 126 IS ADOPTED. WE'RE NOW READY FOR
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ORDINANCE 127, 2020 -- 21, SECOND READING AMENDMENTING THE OFFICIAL CODE PERTAINING TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE BUILDING AND FACILITIES MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT. I'LL TAKE A MOTION.>> MOTION MADE AND RECOGNIZED. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS? >> I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY OUR DEPARTMENTS. WHEN QUESTIONS ARE ASKED AND WE REVIEW THE AMOUNTS ALLOCATED FOR EACH DEPARTMENT IT IS NOT PERSONAL OR A STATEMENT REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT'S WORTH. AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE WE'RE ALLOCATING THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY WITH EQUITY AND IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. THE FIRST YEAR AFTER A PANDEMIC, WE HAVE RAISED OUR VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEES AND BEER PROPOSING TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES AND RATES FOR WATER AND SEWER. FOR A PERSON WHO OWNS A HOME WORTH $200,000. THIS IS APPROXIMATELY $150 INCREASE IN THE FIRST YEAR. THE FEDERAL MONEY AND CITY REVENUE IS ALL THEIR MONEY. RESIDENTS REQUIRE $16.61 PER HOUR TO LIVE IN A TWO-BEDROOM APARTMENT AND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LIFTING RESTRICTIONS I REMIND EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE PANDEMIC ISN'T OVER THERE'S JUST ROOM FOR YOU IN THE ICU. AT THE FIRST BUDGET MEETING WE MISS SPOKE ME PERSONAL, WHETHER TO USE COVID CARES GRANT MONEY. WE MUST REMEMBER THAT WE'RE SPENDING THE HARD EARNED DOLLARS OF OUR TAXPAYERS ALSO KNOWN AS RATE PAYERS. I REMEMBER MY MOTHER TELLING ME SHE WOULD NOT SPEND $0.25 FOR A POP AT WORK BECAUSE SHE NEEDED TO PAY THE ELECTRIC BILL. YEARS LATER AS A SINGLE MOTHER, TAKING CARE OF MY MOTHER, IN AND OUT A PAIR OF COMBAT BOOTS, I HUNG MY LAUNDRY OUT, NOT BECAUSE I COULDN'T PAY THE BILL BUT TO SAVE IN ORDER TO PAY FOR SOCCER OR WHATEVER EVENT ONE OF MY SONS WAS PARTICIPATING IN. I WILL WORK REALLY HARD TO REMEMBER WHERE I CAME FROM AND I HOPE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT I'M REMEMBERING WHERE I CAME FROM WHEN WE TALK MONEY. SO IN REGARD TO THIS, ONCE AGAIN, THIS ORDINANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT IN 2021, PARKS AND REC AND BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES TOGETHER SPENT ABOUT $7,800,000. IN 2022, WE ARE ACTUALLY SPENDING 8 MILLION ALMOST, $8,900,000. THE DIFFERENCE IS OVER ONE MILLION 111 THOUSANDS $168. THE FIRST BUDGET TO BE APPROVED FOR BUILDING AND FACILITIES HAS TWO VEHICLES. BECAUSE OF SUCH AN INCREASE AND I DID NOT GET MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED, I WILL BE VOTING NO FOR THIS.
>> >> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION, COMMENT, REGARDING ORDINANCE 127? HEARING NONE, SEEING NONE, READY TO VOTE?
>> ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. >> EVERY MEMBER VOTED? ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE
VOTE. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE. >> 11 YES, 2 NO, AND 0 OBJECT
STAIN. >> ORDINANCE 127 IS ADOPTED. WE'RE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 129 AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE PERTAINING TO EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FOR EMPLOYEES HIRED AFTER
JULY 1ST, 2006. >> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECOND IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 129. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 129? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY
ARE VOTE. TAKE THE VOTE. >> 13 YES, 0 DMRO NO AND 0 ABTAN STAIN. WE'RE NOW READY FOR 10, 128. AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS AND ADOPTS THE 22 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BANALITYS FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS AND ADOPTING THE TAX RATE FOR THE JOLLY 1, 2021 AND ENDING JUNE 30, 2022. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> MOTION'S MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ALL RIGHT. IS IT GETTING HYPER, HANG ON A SECOND.
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>>> HERE YOU GO. IS OKAY. EVERYBODY GOT PAPER? >> ALL RIGHT, I'LL RECOGNIZE
COUNCILPERSON EVANS. >> OH, SURE. YOU NEED COPIES? >>
>> I HAVE IT IN SMALL PRINT AT THE TOP. >>> I PROBABLY COULD HAVE MADE
IT BIGGER. >>> OKAY. JUST HANG WITH US WHILE WE GET COPIES HEAD TO MAKE SURE EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAS IT IN FRONT OF THEM. WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT, AMY CAN I ASK YOU OR TREY TO HELP ME WITH MY PAD HERE, MY GRANDSON IS NOT HANDY SO I'M GOING TO.
>> THANK YOU. SO DOES EVERYBODY GOT THE AMENDMENTS THEY WERE PASSED AROUND? MADAM
CLERK, EVERYBODY GOT THEM? >> OKAY. COUNCILPERSON EVANS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR
AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE'LL CALL THIS AMENDMENT 1.
>> GO AHEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GET AMENDMENT ONE ON THE FLOOR, PLEASE.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR AMENDMENT 1. YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. >> AS I STATED LAST WEEK, BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S UNFAIR TO DRASTICALLY CUT THE HRC BUDGET AFTER WORKING SO HARD FOR OUR INCREASE LAST YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THIS AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE INITIAL BUDGET THAT WAS PROPOSED ON OUR BUDGET. SORRY, I FEEL LIKE I SAID BUDGET WAY TOO MANY TIME IN A ROW AND NOW IT'S BOTHERING ME. BUT, ANYWAY. I HAVE AMENDED MY PROPOSAL THAT I BROUGHT TO THE TABLE LAST WEEK. NOW I'M REQUESTING $27,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO BRING THE TOTAL AMOUNT TO $41,000 IN FUNDING FOR THE HRC. THE WORK OF THE HRC IS VERY NECESSARY BUT ALSO PAINSTAKING. JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A REQUIRED CITY ENTITY DOESN'T MEAN LIKE WE SHOULD TREAT IT LIKE A. CELEBRATE DIVERSITY THROUGH COMMUNITY BUILDING. AND SINCE OUR NATION IS STILL EXPERIENCING SYSTEMIC ISSUES AND EXPRESSED HATE FOR ONE ANOTHER. I FEEL THAT'S NOT
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THE CLARKSVILLE THAT I KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SUPPORT. BUT, WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHEN WE AREN'T SUPPORTING THEM IN A WAY THAT WE CAN DIRECTLY THROUGH THE HRC? WE CAN'T SAY YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSITY ACTION PLAN BUT STAY SILENT WITH ACTION. SO, THAT'S WHY I'VE NOT GIVEN UP, AND I'M NOT GOING TO, I'VE BROUGHT THIS HRC AMENDMENT TO THE TABLE. I'VE ADDED THE PROPOSED AMOUNTS TO EACH OF THE EVENTS ON THE VERY RIGHT-HAND SIDE JUST TO KIND OF SEPARATE WHERE THE FUNDS WILL GO. THE JUSTIFICATION IN THE MIDDLE HAS MORE DETAILS ON THE EVENT AND WHAT THE INTENT IS. AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE TO STAND UP IF YOU SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THE HRC.THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, GUYS. >>> JUST TO BE SPECIFIC, THE
GENERAL FUND BALANCE? >> YES. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT THREE PEOPLE ON THE LIST. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS AMENDMENT
COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS? >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN THANK THE SPONSOR OF THAT, I SUPPORT THE HRC. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED THROUGH ALL MY TRAINING BEING PART OF THE MILITARY AND IN A COMMUNITY. IS THAT DIVERSITY EQUITY AND EQUALITY HAPPEN ONLY WHEN YOU ARE INTENTIONAL. YOU MUST CONTINUE TO WORK AND BE INTENTIONAL OR WE REGRESS. SO, I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, IT IS IMPORTANT SOMEONE ONCE SAID PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO SHOW OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE SUPPORT DIVERSITY AND WE ARE WILLING TO BE INTENTIONAL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THANK YOU AGAIN.
>>> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS
AMENDMENT? >> I DO. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION IN DISCUSSING THOSE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW AND, ACTUALLY THE SPONSOR ACTUALLY MENTIONED THIS, THAT THIS IS A FEDERAL NECESSITY, AND I WAS JUST LIKE IN ORDER TO GET FEDERAL FUNDS, SO MY QUESTION
WAS, DO WE GET FEDERAL FUNDS FOR THE HRC AND IF SO, HOW MUCH? >> WE DO NOT RECEIVE FEDERAL
FUNDING DIRECTLY FOR THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION. >> BUT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE IT?
>> THE COMMISSION? >> THAT'S WAY OUTSIDE OF MY PAY GRADE, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT IN TERMS OF A COMMISSION. BUT, OFTEN WRONG BUT NEVER WITHOUT AN OPINION.
>> OKAY, I WAS ASKING THAT FOR SOME VOTERS THAT HAD ASKED ME SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU'RE ON THE LIST, DO YOU WISH TO
SPEAK TO THIS AMENDMENT? >> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THIS ONE HERE IS THIS PAST WEEKEND, AS YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE A NEW HOLIDAY, JUNETEENTH, AS A CITY WE PASSED IT AS THE COUNTY THEY PASSED IT, AND ANYBODY THAT WENT OUT TO THAT JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION SAW OUR COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER. IT WAS NOT JUST AN EVENT FOR WHITE PEOPLE IT WAS NOT JUST AN EVENT FOR BLACK PEOPLE, IT WAS NOT JUST AN EVENT FOR ASIAN PEOPLE OR HISPANIC PEOPLE, OR LGBTQIA PEOPLE. EVERYBODY WAS THERE.
AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. AND WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENCES, WE TALKED ABOUT SIMILARITIES, NOW, WITH THAT EVENT, THE CITY DID VOTE, THE HRC DID VOTE TO GIVE THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION $15,000. OKAY. SO, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE PRESENTED FOR THIS SPECIFIC EVENT FOR JUNETEENTH ON THIS AMENDMENT $3,000. OKAY. IF YOU GUYS CAME OUT THERE, WHOEVER CAME OUT THERE WOULD SEE THE VALUE IN WHAT HAPPENED ON SATURDAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE THE JUNETEENTH BUDGET AND I HAVE IT IN WRITING RIGHT HERE, TO INCREASE THE JUNETEENTH BUDGET
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TO $5,000, THE PRIDE AND LGBTQIA BUDGET TO $5,000, THE ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE TO$5,000 AND THE HISPANIC HERITAGE TO $5,000. >> THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT BY $8,000 FOR THOSE FOUR SPECIFIC AREAS. DID I STATE IS IT CORRECTLY?
>> YES. >> OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED.
>> ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? >> OKAY. I'VE GOT THREE PEOPLE ON THE LIST. COUNCILPERSON DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> THE ORIGINAL MOTION. >> OKAY. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHILE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING FROM THE INITIAL PROPOSAL, TO THE AMENDMENT, I THINK FOR INCLUSION'S SAKE AND FOR FAIRNESS' SAKE, AND JUST TO BE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, I BELIEVE THAT THE AMOUNT SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. AND FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS WOULD NEED TO BE REFERRED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL TAKE ON IT.
>> COUNCILPERSON EVANS DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO YOUR AMENDMENT?
>> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE SPONSOR OF THE NEW AMENDMENT. I REALLY WANTED MORE FUNDING FOR ALL OF THOSE EW EVENTS, I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE, BUT APPRECIATE THAT AND I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THAT. IN REGARD TO GOING TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO BRING AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS ALREADY VOTED DOWN TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE THAT'S WHY I DID NOT BRING THIS ONE. I HAD ALL THE INTENTION TO, BUT BY THAT ADVICE, I DECIDED NOT TO SINCE EVERYBODY ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS
SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY, ALTHOUGH, THE SPONSOR HAS OUTLINED THE AMOUNT, REALLY, WE'RE VOTING ON A TOTAL LIKE WE DO ON THE BUDGET, IS THAT NOT CORRECT? WE'RE NOT SAYING SPECIFICALLY THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND EXACTLY THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY? SHE'S JUST GIVING US AN OVERALL REVIEW OF WHAT, AND THEN, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THE HRC WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE MONEY AND DO WHAT THEY
PLEASE WITH IT, IS THAT NOT ACCURATE? I'M JUST ASKING? >> NOT EXACTLY DO AS THEY
PLEASE. >> NO, IF THEY CAN SPEND ON THE EVENT.
>> >> THEY'RE NOT TIED TO THIS THESE EXACT AMOUNT FOR THIS
EVENT? >> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT POLICY AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
>> SO, WE'VE TREATED THE HRC THE SAME AS THE DEPARTMENT IN THE PAST BECAUSE THEY FALL UNDER OUR DEPARTMENT AND CITY CODE. BUT IF YOU GIVE THE SPECIFICS HOW YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY, THAT'S THE GENERAL GUIDELINE. IF YOU NEED TO CHANGE IT, FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, IF YOU PLANNED ON $10,000 TO GO TO AN EVENT AND DECIDED TO USE $10,000 TO TRAVEL TO JAPAN, YOU NEED TO COME TO THE MAYOR AND I AND WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE. IT'S WITHIN LIMITS, IT HAS TO SERVE A MUNICIPAL PURPOSE, WE GO THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO HAVE ALL EXPENDITURES, RIGHT. IT GOES THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO BE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN ORDER TO MAKE A PURCHASE. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO SPEND $3,000 INSTEAD OF $2,000 ON A LISTED EVENT AND YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF REBALANCE THE NUMBERS, OBVIOUSLY THAT HE WILL STILL COME THROUGH, BUT
THESE EXACT AMOUNTS ARE N PER EVENT, THAT WAS MY... >> I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO BE SET PER EVENT. BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE IT, WE USUALLY USE LIKE FOR OUR OTHER ENTITIES THAT GET MONEY, WE USUALLY TELL THEM IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, THEN YOU HAVE TO COME TO -- AND IT'S TYPICALLY ME AND OR THE MAYOR THAT WOULD MAKE THAT AGREEMENT
FOR A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >>> THANK YOU. I THINK, THE KEY
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IS TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW CITY PURCHASING POLICY, FINANCIAL POLICY IN ALL THESE AREAS. AND THEN AS SHE MENTIONED, SIGNIFICANT OR MATERIAL CHANGES HAVE TO GET PRIOR APPROVAL.>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> YES, SIR. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, I ACCIDENTALLY PUT A VOTE UP. WE'RE NOT READY, I WAS TRYING TO HIT MY GREEN BUTTON TO SPEAK,
I'M SORRY. >> YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO CHANGE YOUR VOTE IF YOU NEED TO.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION, WHO DECIDES WHAT ORGANIZATION GOES ON THIS HRC BUDGET?
>> LOOKING AT THIS BUDGET, THE LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS ON THIS HRC BUDGET HERE, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S LEAVING OFF SOME PROMINENT ORGANIZATIONS I THINK SHOULD BE ON HERE. I
DON'T SEE A LOT OF BUDGETS. SO, WHO DECIDES WHO GETS WHAT? >> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE IDENTIFYING ORGANIZATIONS, SPECIFICALLY, THEY'RE IDENTIFYING THE DIFFERENT GROUPS
OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT MAKE US. >> BUT THEY GOT JUNETEENTH ON
HERE, MAYOR. >> WELL, THAT IS A HOLIDAY. >> YES. THANKFULLY NOW A
NATIONAL HOLIDAY. >> YES. >> BUT INSTEAD OF ME ANSWERING
FOR THE SPONSORS, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THE SPONSOR TO? >> YES.
>> COUNCILPERSON EVANS AS THE SPONSOR OF THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU. SO YOU ARE CORRECT, MAYOR, I WAS NOT NAMING OFF ORGANIZATIONS THESE ARE EVENTS. IF AN ORGANIZATION COMES TO THE HRC AND WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN AN EVENT, WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THEM. FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE SMALL MINORITY BUSINESS FAIR, THAT'S AN EVENT WHERE WE LOOK FOR SMALL AND MINORITY BUSINESSES TO COME AND GATHER AND BOOST THEIR BUSINESSES IN COMMUNITY WHERE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING UPLIFTED OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
THE EVENT IS FOR. >> LET ME SAY SOMETHING. EVERYTHING ON HERE IS NOT AN
EVENT. >> IT IS. >> PRINTING, FOR EXAMPLE,
$1,500. >> PRINTING, IT'S NOT AN EVENT. >> IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NECESSARY THAT'S WHY IT'S LISTED ON THERE. NO DISRESPECT BUT THERE ARE OTHER EVENTS HAPPENING IN THE CITY SHOULD BE PUT ON THERE AS WELL. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE PRINTING ON HERE AND OTHER THINGS ON HERE THAT ARE NOT JUST EVENTS. SO, I
JUST THINK. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN? >> WHAT I JUST SAID, MA'AM. NO DISRESPECT, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT'S ON HERE DOESN'T SEEM FAIR TO ME. I JUST THING THAT IF PRINTING IS ON HERE, I'M SURE, THERE'S ANOTHER EVENT THAT COULD
BE PUT IN THAT PLACE FOR PRINTING. >> WELL, PRINTING IS NECESSARY FOR ADVERTISING, THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THERE, THAT'S JUST A PART OF THE BUDGET THAT I NEEDED TO
JUSTIFY. >> YOU HAVE ADVERTISEMENT OVER HERE, FOR EXAMPLE FOR SMALL AND MINORITY BUSINESS FAIR, YOU HAVE REFRESHMENTS $700, VENUE $1,000, ADVERTISING $300.
>> IT WOULD BE THE EXTRA, SO, THAT'S HOW I JUSTIFIED THE COST, THE BUDGET FOR THE EVENT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> WITH THE ADVERTISING, FOR OTHER THINGS, LIKE THE ASL CLASSES, I DID NOT PUT ANYTHING THERE FOR ADVERTISING, THE EXTRA PRINTING COULD GO FOR THAT
EVENT. >> LET ME ASK YOU, SO PRIDE IS AN EVENT OR AN ORGANIZATION?
PRIDE, LGBTQ IS THAT AN EVENT OR ORGANIZATION? >> PRIDE IS AN EVENT.
>> THERE ARE ALSO ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT PRIDE, IN THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
>> BUT IT SAYS CELEBRATING LGBTQIA AND FOLKS. >> FOLKS, PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY
AS QUEER. >> SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CELEBRATING?
>> YES. >> AND THAT'S NOT AN ORGANIZATION?
>> IT'S THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE CELEBRATING.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. BAKER YOU WISH TO
ADDRESS. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS SOMETHING.
THIS COMES FROM SECTION 6510 AND I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO BE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY IS INVOLVED HERE. DEPARTMENTS AND PROGRAMS SO, WHETHER HRC IS CLASSIFIED AS
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A DEPARTMENT, SOUNDS LIKE FINANCE TREATS THEM AS ONE BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A PROGRAM. SHALL PREPARE BUDGETS AS DIRECTED BY MAYOR AND SHALL IMPLEMENT THE BUDGETS AS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. MANAGERS OR HEADS OF THE DEPARTMENTS OR PROGRAMS SHALL MANAGE THEIR BUDGETS. THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION SHOULD NOT BE EXCEEDED. THAT ADDRESSES WHAT COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS WAS TALKING ABOUT AWHILE AGO. NEXT SENSE DEALS WITH FLEXIBILITY. IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BUDGET, THE DEPARTMENTS AND PROGRAMS SHALL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE LINE ITEM WORKSHEET SUBMITTED AS A PART OF THEIR DEPARTMENT'S OR PROGRAM'S BUDGET DOCUMENT. SO, SHE'S SUBMITTING THIS AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE BUDGET DOCUMENT THAT THE HRC SUBMITTED ALREADY BECAUSE IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THAT. AND SO, I BELIEVE LEGALLY, THEY CAN EXCEED THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBER, COUNCILPERSON EVANS HAS LAID OUT GENERALLY WHAT THE ITEMS WHAT THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT ON, BUT THEY WILL HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO ADJUST THOSE NUMBERS AND MAYBE SPEND MORE ON ONE EVENT VERSUS ANOTHER EVENT. BUT THEY GOT TO GENERALLY FOLLOW, IF YOU APPROVED HER AMENDMENT, WHAT'SCONTAINED IN THERE. >> THANK YOU, MR. BAKER. >> OKAY. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER,
DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? >> YES.
>> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MR. BAKER KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER WHICH IS COOL BECAUSE NOW I SOUND EVEN MORE SMART BECAUSE HE HAS A DEGREE. I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD FAITH ESTIMATE LIKE HE JUST SAID. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE, I AGREE WITH THE EQUALITY BETWEEN THE FOUR DIFFERENT ONES THAT MY COLLEAGUE PUT ON HERE, AND MAY BE SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, WE COULD TREAT THIS ALMOST LIKE WE DO A THE FUNDS ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE OF THESE IF YOU GET YOU KNOW, BIDS OR INTEREST FROM THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO THESE THINGS, AROUND THEN YOU KNOW, FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTE LIKE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN PLUSSED UP FROM WHAT WE SAW LAST WEEK TO BASICALLY GIVE YOU A GOOD FAITH ESTIMATE. BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT
WE ASKED MY COLLEAGUE FOR THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >>> OKAY. I'LL COME BACK TO THE
WELL, COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LAST WEEK I THINK THERE WAS A BIT OF CONFUSION FOR MYSELF, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT MONEY CARRIED OVER AND LAST READING WE FOUND OUT THAT IT DIDN'T. SO THERE'S STILL QUESTIONS THERE, BUT IT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. BUT TO THE SPONSOR AND TO THE AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT, KUDOS, I COULD SEE CLEARLY AND ALL OF THE OTHER POINTS THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS FROM THE BUDGET, I'M COOL WITH. I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT BUT, I THINK ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. SO, I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. AND I WILL ALSO BE LOOKING -- LY THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR CITY. I TOO, PARTICIPATED IN THIS WEEK'S EVENTS AND IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE THE FAMILIES COME OUT AND CELEBRATE SUCH A HISTORICAL MOMENT. IT WAS VERY REWARDING TO SEE FORT CAMPBELL, RIGHT AFTER THE FEDERAL DECISION CAME DOWN TO SHUT DOWN THE BASIS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FEDERAL HOLIDAY AND EVERYBODY HAD TO PIVOT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN OUR SOCIETY AT THIS POINT IN HISTORY, WE'RE AT A POINT OF PIVOTING FOR THE PURPOSE OF HUMANITY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. MY HOPE AND PRAYER IS THAT WE FIND STRONG LEADERSHIP FROM OUR COMMUNITY THAT WILL WORK WITH US LIKE PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP MEMBERS HAVE. AND GET BEHIND SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THESE EVENTS FLY WITH WHAT WE ARE PROUD OF, WHICH IS OUR DIVERSE CONSTITUENTS IN EXCELLENCE. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK. I CAN SEE IT NOW AND I'LL BE VOTING IN
FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT FOR FINAL THOUGHTS BEFORE WE CAST
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OUR VOTES. >> SO, I HAVE NO FINAL THOUGHTS.
>> OKAY. I'M SORRY. >> I DID WANT TO ADDRESS ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED, I CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT THESE ARE NOT SPECIFIC EVENTS, AND, I THINK THAT MY COLLEAGUE WENT AHEAD AND DID SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WHEN IT COMES TO THE HRC BUDGET AND GET IT HONED IN ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHEN IT COMES TO BRINGING HUMANS TOGETHER. I THINK SHE DID AN AMAZING JOB AND I GIVE HER KUDOS. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
>> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND UP WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? >> I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. SO WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER $8,000 TO THE $27,000 FOR A POINT OF CLARITY, BRINGING THAT TO $35,000, OR $49,000?
>> HANG ON A SECOND. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY.
>> WE'RE ADDING $27,000, WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL $8,000, SO IT WOULD BE $35,000 TO THE HRC BUDGET PROPOSAL. BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE $14,000 IN THE BUDGET PROPOSAL. BUT THIS
AMENDMENT ADDS $8,000 TO THE $27,000, REQUEST. >> THANK YOU.
>> EVERYBODY GOT IT? EVERYBODY READY TO VOTE. OKAY. WE'RE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT OTT
AMENDMENT, PLEASE EVERYBODY CAST YOUR VOTE. >>> EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY
MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE. >> 9 YES, 2 NO, 2 ABSTAIN. THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. WE'RE NONON THE EVANS AMENDMENT. ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER 1? >> COUNCILPERSON REDD YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I BELIEVE THAT HUMAN RELATIONS IS A HEART PROBLEM THAT'S NOT A LACK OF A GOVERNMENT SPENDING PROBLEM OR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FIXED WITH GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND A COMMISSION OR A PROGRAM. I BELIEVE RELATIONS BETWEEN HUMANS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT GOVERNMENT CAN FIX OR FINANCE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TALK OF DIVERSITY. AND I BELIEVE DIVERSITY IS GOOD, I BELIEVE THERE'S A A PLACE FOR DIVERSITY. I MEAN, IN YOUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DIVERSE, DON'T PUT ALL THE EGGS IN ONE BASKET THEY SAY. BUT BETWEEN RELATIONS BETWEEN HUMANS AND PEOPLE, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD FOCUS ON WHAT WE HAVE IN COMMON, TODAY, SO MUCH WE'RE ONLY HEARING ABOUT HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT AND PEOPLE ARE PUTTING IN THIS CATEGORY OR THAT CATEGORY. REMEMBER, WHAT'S THE PHRASE, OUT OF MANY ONE. AND THERE WAS A TIME WHENEVER WE WERE SAYING THAT WE WERE THE MELTING POT. WHEN I WENT THROUGH BASIC TRAINING MY DRAM SERGEANT WHO HAPPENED TO BE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN AT THAT TIME, HE TOLD ME, HE SAID, HERE WE ARE ALL GREEN. BUT OF COURSE THAT WAS BACK IN 1978, AND I KNOW WE LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD TODAY. BUT, I JUST BELIEVE WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT BRINGS US TOGETHER. REMEMBER WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND SAY THAT WE'RE ONE NATION UNDER GOD, WE'RE ALL AMERICANS. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. SAID THAT IF WE DON'T LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER AS BROTHERS WE'RE GOING TO PERISH TOGETHER AS FOOLS. THAT'S MY PAL
COMMENT, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, CHAIR. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> SO, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL HUMANS. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL ONE. I WAS IN THE ARMY FOR 10 YEARS AND I BLED GREEN. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE DO NOT RECOGNIZE THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENCES. IF WE CALL OURSELVES A MELTING POT, THAT MEANS I WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY A CERTAIN CULTURE DOES SOMETHING AND I WOULD RESPECT THAT. I WOULDN'T EXPECT THEM JUST TO BEND TO MY CULTURE. THAT IS WHAT THIS HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION IS ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT US UNDERSTANDING EACH OTHER SO THAT WE COULD BECOME A NEW NORMAL, A NEW ONE. SO THAT WE COULD BLEND INTO A CULTURE INSTEAD OF STAYING ON SEPARATE ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM, SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH THE SPEAKER BEFORE ME, WE HAVE NOT BECOME ONE YET BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN YOU GO INTO AN ASIAN HOUSE HOLD, YOU NEED TO TAKE OFF YOUR SHOES, THAT'S A PART OF THEIR CULTURE.
WE'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT YET. I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT, AND THE
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REASON IS BECAUSE IT WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY BECOME EVEN CLOSER. I SEEN SUCH A GLIMMEROF THAT SATURDAY, THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT STOP. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON, LITTLE,
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. JUST GOING OFF OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID EARLIER AND I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S OPINIONS AND WORDS, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK HISTORY SPOKEN FOR ITSELF THAT GOVERNMENT EFFECT CHANGE MORE THAN PEOPLE EFFECT CHANGE.
PEOPLE DON'T CHANGE UNLESS SOMEBODY'S TELLING THEM TO CHANGE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WAS WRITTEN IN 1892 AND SEGREGATION DIDN'T END UNTIL 1865. THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT OF 1965, FAIR HOUSING 1968, GOVERNMENT HAS STEPPED IN COUNTLESS AMOUNTS OF TIMES TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS TRILETEED EQUALRY AND THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN TODAY'S SOCIETY ALSO. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT STEPPING FORWARD AND SHOWING THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS AND TAKEN CARE OF.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG FOR THIS AMOUNT WHICH WOULD BE AN EXTRA $8,000 GOING TO THEM, IT'S REALLY A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IS TREATED WITH RESPECT AND EQUALITY. LIKE, A TOTAL OF LIKE $49,000 TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS TREATED
RIGHT AND FAIRLY, IT'S PERFECTLY FINE. THAT'S IT. >> COUNCILPERSON GARRETT YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, ONE THING I WANTED TO COMMENT ON, A PREVIOUS SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION OF THIS AMENDMENT REFERENCED THAT WE NEED TO LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER. WELL, IN THAT SENSE, YOUR SUBSTANTIATING THE REASON FOR THE HRC, ONE OF THE HRC'S FUNDAMENTAL GOALS IS TO HELP US LEARN. DUE TO SOME PEOPLE'S DEM DEMO GRAPHIC, UP BRINGING PREVENTS THEM TO BE ABLE TO WORK WELL WITH OTHERS AND UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCES. I THINK WITH THE HRC WE'VE PROVIDING THEM WITH THE FUNDING THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN TEACHING US, AND CELEBRATING THE DIFFERENCES AMONGST EACH OTHER.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED. I APPRECIATE THE ORIGINAL SPONSOR AND TAKING A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT SHE RECEIVED IN REGARDS TO HOW THE BUDGET WAS OUTLINED, COMING UP WITH A DETAILED FORM TO PUT IT TO US. I JUST HOPE THAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL GETS AND EMBRACES IT AND WE PASS IT AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE HRC AND THEIR MISSION IN HELPING US GROW TOGETHER. THANK
YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> CALL FOR A QUESTION. >> QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR ANY OBJECTION?
>> HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE. >> WE'RE NOW VOTING ON THE
AMENDMENT 1 AS AMENDED. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. >>> EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE.
>> 11 YES, 2 NO, AND 0 ABSTAIN. >> AMENDMENT ONE IS ADOPTED. AND WE'RE NOW READY FOR THE NEXT AMENDMENT, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS AMENDMENT 2. AND BY HOLLEMAN. COUNCILPERSON
HOLLEMAN YOU ARE THE SPONSOR AND RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, SO, I DO
VOLUNTEERING FOR THE -- >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR POINT OF ORDER.
>> WE JUST VOTED ON THE QUESTION? >> NO, WITHOUT OBJECTION WE
CALLED FOR THE QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN.
>> SO, I VOLUNTEER FOR THE SENIOR CENTER AND ATTACHED TO THAT PICTURE A SIGN AND AS YOU COULD SEE IT'S GORGEOUS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CAMERA'S AT OR IF YOU COULD SEE THAT. BUT IT'S FADED, IT'S GOT A NICE IMPALER, RIGHT HERE. IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE REDONE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A NEW SIGN AS WELL AS GET THE PLACE SPRUCED UP. THE RECENT DIRECTOR ANITA PASSED AWAY RECENTLY, AND IT'S HIT THE CENTER PRETTY HARD. THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE SHE HAD WORKED THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AS FAR AS THE SENIOR CENTER, THEY ALWAYS GET THE HAND ME DOWNS FROM THE CITY, FILING CABINETS, EVERYTHING'S DONATED. AND SO, THIS IS JUST A SMALL AMOUNT TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A NICE SIGN AND ALSO CHANGE UP THEIR DECOR AND MAKE
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IT MORE PRESENTABLE, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BE PROUD OF AS A CITY. BECAUSE THEY DO A LOT, THEY GIVE GUITAR LESSONS, SPANISH LESSONS, THERE'S A POOL ROOM, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ON TOURS A FEW YEARS AGO. AND THEY DO A LOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY CHARGE, I THINK, $32 A YEAR, BREAKFAST IS FREE, AND LUNCH IS $5 AND THAT INCLUDES LIKE A MAIN TWO SIDES AND A DESSERT AND A DRINK. SO, THEY'RE REALLY HERE TO HELP OUR SENIOR CITIZENS.BUT, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. I WILL CONSIDER THAT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
>> NOW, I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT MR. BAKER RAISED. ARE YOU SO, I WANT TO CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT
RENAMING THE SENIOR CENTER IN THE NAME OF THE FORMER DIRECTOR? >> NO, NOT A RENAMING.
>> WE'RE DEDICATING THE SIGN. >> BECAUSE IF IT WERE RENAMING, THERE'S A DESIGNATION COMMITTEE
TO GO TO. BUT WE'RE DEDICATING THIS NEW SIGN TO HER? >> YES.
>> IS THAT PART OF THE AMENDMENT? >> YES.
>> OKAY. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN YOUR RECOGNIZED. >> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND MAYBE YOU COULD ANSWER IT, SO, THE AJAX CENTER IS A SHUTTERED VENUE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR ME TO AMEND THIS THAT IT COMES OUT OF THE CARE'S ACT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE?
>> IT'S A SHUTTERED VENUE, BUT ME MOVED THE MONEY TO THE ART FUND. YES, IT WOULD BE
APPROPRIATE TO AMEND THIS TO COME FROM THE ART MONEY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN
AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT TO COME FROM THE ART MONEY. >> SECOND.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT TO INSTEAD OF TAKING THE $20,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE, IT WOULD COME FROM THE ART MONEY. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I SEE NO OTHER NAMES ON THE LIST FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. SO, WE WILL WAIT UNTIL THE CLERK GETS IT ON THE BOARD AND WE WILL
TAKE A VOTE. >> WE WILL CONSIDER IT THE HONOR SYSTEM. WE'RE AMENDING AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO TAKE THE FUNDS FROM THE ART MONEY, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONEY.
EVERY MEMBER CAST YOUR VOTE. AFTER THAT LONG-WINDED EXPLANATION. ANY MEMBER WISH TO
CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE? >> 13 YES, 0 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT ADOPTED. WE'RE NOW ON COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN'S AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.
COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THIS DEFINITELY SPEAKS TO THE $20,000, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE MOST RECENT AMENDMENT BY THE OTHER COUNCILPERSON THAT ENSURED THAT IT CAME FROM THE ART FUND.
SO, FOR ME, IT'S EASY TO SEE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THEY'RE IN NEED OF, AND IT'S NOT AS THOUGH THEY ASK VERY MUCH FOR US EVERY YEAR SO I'LL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR HIS WORK IN BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THE REALIZATION THAT IT WAS NEEDED.
THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER DID YOU WISH THE ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT
AS AMENDED? >> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, UNTIL IT WAS AMENDED, I WAS GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS. I'M GOING TO VOTE YES, AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE ART FUNDS. I THINK THIS IN PARTICULAR, WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN US DESERVES THE ARP FUNDS. I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH WHAT WE'RE USING THE REST OF THE ARP FUNDS FOR. THANK YOU.
>> I SEE NO ONE ELSE ON THE LIST. YOU READY TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO AS AMENDED?
>> ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. >> EVERY MEMBER VOTED? ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE
VOTE, >> 13 YES, 0 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. >> AMENDMENT 2 IS AMENDED AS ADOPTED. WE'RE NOW READY FOR AMENDMENT THREE, I'M NOT SURE WHO THE SPONSOR IS, BUT ANYBODY?
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OKAY. THISES AMENDMENT THREE COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS IS THE SPONSOR YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.>> I WILL ASK HER TO READ THE AMENDMENT SO WE COULD THEN GET IT IN FRONT OF US.
>> SECTION 6 TAX RATE CURRENT CITY CLARKSVILLE'S FISCAL YEAR TAX RATE TAX RATE 2021 FOR REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY IS SET AT $1.23. THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE SET AT $1.19. I REQUEST A
MOTION. >> SECOND. >> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY
SECONDED. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> YES, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT AND EARLIER IN THE EVENING, I INDICATED THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REMEMBER THAT WE ARE TAKING MONEY FROM CITIZENS WHILE OUR BUDGET HAS INCREASED, THEIR PAYCHECKS HAVE NOT. AND AS I STATED PROBABLY AN AVERAGE OF THIS YEAR $200 OUT OF THEIR POCKET ON AVERAGE. SOME LESS SOME MORE. AND I JUST, AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE ALMOST $14 MILLION OF COVID AX MONEY, WE HAVE ALLOCATED OVER $7 MILLION FOR VEHICLES FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. OUR POLICE AND FIRE GET ARE ABOUT 50% OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET. AND EACH YEAR IN THE PAST, THEY HAVE BEEN BUDGETED WELL OVER $500,000 A YEAR FOR VEHICLES. AND THIS YEAR, WE ARE USING COVID MONEY TO BUY THEIR VEHICLES, SO, I THINK BOTH OF THEIR BUDGETS DID NOT INCLUDE VEHICLES BECAUSE OF THAT. THAT EXTRA INCOME. SO, THIS YEAR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE TOTAL DECREASE OF .4 CENTS EQUALS $1,000,373 AND 158.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE $250 FROM PARKS AND REC, $250,000 FROM PARKS AND REC, $400,000 FROM POLICE DEPARTMENT DISPATCH, $300,000 FROM FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND $423,150 FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE THIS, BUT I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS REALLY NOT A DECREASE, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE COVID MONEY AND THE CARES MONEY TO BALANCE THIS WITHIN OUR BUDGETS, SO I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS PLEASE.
>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, DID YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON AMENDMENT THREE?
>> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LOOKING THIS OVER, OF COURSE WE JUST VOTED LAST WEEK IN THE FIRST READING TO NOT TAKE AWAY MONEY FROM PARKS AND REC, $250,000, WE KNOW THERE WAS AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S, BUT OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND LAST YEAR WAS A PANDEMIC. WE DIDN'T HAVE NEAR AS MUCH GOING ON, MANY OF OUR SUMMER PROGRAMS INCLUDING THE PROGRAM FOR OUR SUMMER YOUTH, WE GOT A LOT OF KIDS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AT NO COST. THESE ARE LOW INCOME PEOPLE ABLE TO BRING THEIR KIDS IN AND HAVE SOMETHING FOR THEM TO DO. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE THE MAYOR'S SUMMER NIGHT LIGHTS, THESE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS WE HAVE FOR OUR YOUTH, ARE WE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THAT, OR ARE WE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE PROGRAM FOR THE LOW INCOME AND MAKE EVERYBODY START PAYING. I'M CONCERNED WITH TAKE $250,000 AWAY FROM THE PARKS AND REC'S BUDGET. BUT I'M EXCEPTIONALLILY CONCERNED WITH THE THOUGHT OF TAKING AWAY $700,000 FROM OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THESE ARE FUNDS THEY NEED, THEY PUT THIS INTO THEIR BUDGET, THERE'S POSITIONS THEY NEED TAKE CARE OF AND YES WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT OUR VEHICLES INTO THE OTHER FUND THIS YEAR BUT ARE WE JUST GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT THEY'RE NEEDS ARE, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RUN INTO THE EMERGENCY WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS RUNNING OUT. SO, I ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT BE A FAVOR OF TAKING IT AWAY.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY $700,000 FROM THEM FOR A PORTION OF $0.04.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE TAX INCREASE. I'M REALLY UNSURE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THIS $423,150, I TRIED TO LOOK AT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN WHAT CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE THOUGHT NEEDS TO GO AWAY.
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>> IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU
ARE THE SPONSOR. >> I MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE WHEN I WROTE THAT. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE TRANSIT PLAN FELL UNDER CAPITAL PROJECTS ALL TOGETHER IN THE LINE ITEM.
AND I WAS THINKING THAT IT FEELS ONE BIG FUND. AND I MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE THERE.
>> TRANSIT OR TRANSPORTATION? >> THE NEW TRANSPORTATION PLAN. >> NO, IT'S NOT ALL ONE BIG
FUND, IT'S DIVIDED UP THE FIRST YEAR INTO THREE CATEGORIES. >> I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AT THE LINE ITEMS, IT WAS ONE -- I THOUGHT THAT THAT FELL INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LINE ITEM TOGETHER AND I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT.
>> MR. BAKER, IF YOU'LL JUMP UP THERE A MINUTE AND LET MISS MADA ADDRESS IT PLEASE.
>> I WAS TRYING TO STAY WITH NOT A LINE ITEM, BUT FROM THE TOTALS. AND I MAY HAVE JUST
READ. >> SO, THE ORDINANCE APPROPRIATES THE FUNDS AND IT DOES IT IN A LUMP SUM, BUT PART OF THE ORDINANCE IF YOU GO FURTHER INTO THE ORDINANCE, THERE'S A PAGE THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE APPROVING AND YOU DO APPROVE BY PROJECT. COUNCIL, ABSOLUTELY HAS CONTROL OVER EVERY CAPITAL PROJECT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE 423, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT PROJECTS YOU WANT TO REDUCE. YOU HAVE LINE ITEM APPROVAL ON
THESE PROJECTS. >> BECAUSE YOU TOLD US WE DIDN'T HAVE LINE ITEM, BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING BY. >> YES, IN DEPARTMENTS. >> IN DEPARTMENTS, BUT IN THE
CAPITAL WE DO. OKAY. THAT WAS MY MISUNDERSTANDING. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> AND MY DIRECTOR OF FINANCE ALSO CHECKED WE HAVE AN $8.80 DIFFERENCE.
>> YOU NEED TO AT ANOTHER $8.80 TO BALANCE THAT, WE DON'T GO DOWN TO THE PENNY.
>> WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US THAT TOTAL. BECAUSE YOU SAY $8.80 AND
>> IT WOULD BE 1,000,373 AND 1. EVEN? >> YES. BECAUSE WE DON'T USE
PENNIES. >> YOU UNDERSTAND? >> SO, DO I AMEND THEN CAPITAL
PROJECTS, I WOULD AMEND IT TO BE THE... >> PICK WHICH PROJECTS YOU WANT
TO REDUCE. >> THE TRAFFIC 2020. >> YOU HAVE TO PICK THE
SPECIFIC ONE. >> YOU HAVE TO PICK THE SPECIFIC PROJECT?
>> WE DIDN'T DO THAT LAST WEEK, THAT'S WHY. >> WE DIDN'T AMEND THE CAPITAL
PROJECT'S BUDGET. >> IT WASN'T ALLOWED LAST WEEK, ACTUALLY.
>> HANG ON. HANG ON. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. >> WE DIDN'T AMEND IT CAPITAL
PROJECTS LAST WEEK? >> NO, BUT WE AMENDED THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THE
OVERALL BUDGET FOR THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. >> WAS THAT A SEPARATE
RESOLUTION YOU PASSED? THAT'S NOT THE BUDGET. >> THE RESOLUTION IS THE PLAN
BUT NOT THE FUNDING MECHANISM. >> YEAH, BUDGETS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE RESOLUTION.
>> WHEN I PUT IN THE AMENDMENT LAST TIME, I'LL FIX IT, WHEN I PUT IN THE AMENDMENT AND CHANGED
IT WE DID THE OVERALL TRAFFIC 2020 PLAN TOTAL. >> I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM.
>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> I ASSUME IT WILL ONCE WE FIGURE IT OUT T BUT I KNOW LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST THERE'S NOT EVEN ONE FOR THAT SPECIFIC AMOUNT. SO, I MEAN, MY NEXT QUESTION THEN WOULD BE IF WE DECREASE ONE OF THESE BY SPECIFIC LINE ITEM DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE EVEN ABLE DO THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT?
>> WELL, IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO START A PROJECT. NO.
>> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS? >> SO, COULD I JUST DECREASE EACH ONE OF THEM BY A
PERCENTAGE? OR I GUESS I'LL JUST TAKE. >> WE WOULD NEED THE DOLLAR
AMOUNTS, NOT PERCENTAGES. >> ALL RIGHT. THEN, ASSUMING THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE CARES MONEY NOT ALLOCATED, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE TAKE IT FROM THE SPRINGCREEK PARKWAY PROJECT.
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$40,423,159 FROM THE SPRING CREEK PROJECT. >> OKAY. YOU'VE HEARD THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. I'VE GOT A LIST SO I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LIST AND WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT WHICH IS TO SUBSTITUTE THE WORDS CAPITAL PROJECTS TO SPRING CREEK PARKWAY. COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU ARE ON THE LIST, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT
TO THE AMENDMENT? >> NO. >> OKAY. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER,
DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? >> I DO NOW.
>> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THE AMENDMENT THAT I PROPOSED LAST WEEK TO JUSTIFY KEEPING THE TAX RATE AT THE CURRENT CERTIFIED TAX RATE.
WHEN WE WENT OVER THIS, THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT I WAS ALLOWED TO TOUCH WAS PARKS AND REC AND THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. I WAS TOLD THAT I COULD NOT TAKE CAPITAL PROJECTS OUT OF THE REAL AND
PERSONAL PROPERTY RATE CUT. FOR SURE. >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS. THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS IMPACTED IN THE GENERAL FUND. THE GENERAL FUND IS IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR ORDINANCES, IT'S THE FIRST TWO PAGES, MAYBE THREE. CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND THE TAX RATE DOES NOT DIRECTLY IMPACT THE CAPITAL PROJECT'S FUND.
>> AND THEN, SO, WE'RE HAVING THE SPONSOR SPECIFICALLY PICK PROJECTS OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME, BUT THAT WAS NOT REQUIRED OF ME LAST WEEK FOR
SLUR. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU PROPOSED LAST WEEK. YOU HAD CAPITAL PROJECTS, TENNIS COURT LIGHTING TO REMOVE $250,000, AND THE TRAIN STATION, REMOVE.
>> YOU TOLD ME I COULDN'T DO THAT. >> I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE. >> I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT -- BECAUSE I DID ALL OF THOSE AMENDMENTS SEPARATELY AND AFTERWARD, I WAS TRYING TO KEEP THE TAX RATE. IT WAS TWO SEPARATE THINGS. BUT, WHEN I SAID, TRANSPORTATION PLAN, NOBODY ASKED ME TO SPECIFY WHICH
THING IN THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN I WAS GOING TO CUT. >> BECAUSE, YOU WERE -- SO, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WE WROTE ON THE NOTES, YOU WANTED TO REMOVE THE $5,267,035 FROM THE GENERAL FUND THAT'S NOT CHANGING THE CAPITAL PROJECT BUT AMENDING THE GENERAL FUND AND I BELIEVE THAT
DIDN'T PASS EITHER Z I'M NOT ARGUING THAT. >> YOU WANTED $1,798,759 FROM
PARKS AND REC. >> THAT WAS THE GENERAL FUND, TRANSFER INTO THE CAPITAL
PROJECT'S FUND. >> OKAY. >> SO, THEY'RE KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND IF THAT HAD PASSED, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HANDLE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT MONEY WOULDN'T GO INTO THAT FUND.
>> I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. LAST WEEK WHEN I WANTED TO REMOVE MONEY FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, NO ONE ASKED ME SPECIFICALLY WHICH PROJECT, AND TODAY WE'RE ASKING THAT OF MY COLLEAGUE, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE IT'S A MOOT POINT I'LL MOVE ON.
>> YOU HAD ASKED TO REMOVE THE ENTIRETY OF THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE $5 MILLION. >> YOU WERE ASKING TO REMOVE
THEM ALL, NOT A SPECIFIC ONE. SO, ANYWAY. >> THAT EVEN MAKES MORE SENSE,
THANK YOU. >> POINT OF ORDER, WHEN I PUT MINE IN LAST WEEK FOR $0.05, IT WAS A TOTAL, I DID GIVE A TOTAL FROM TRANSPORTATION, AND A TOTAL FROM PARKS AND REC. JUST AND
THAT IS HOW I DID IT LAST TIME. JUST A TOTAL. >> OKAY.
>> SO, WE COULD MOVE ON, BUT IT WAS ACCEPTED THAT I WOULD TAKE $1,000,202 OUT OF TRANSPORTATION
PLAN AND WE DIDN'T GET TO THIS CONVERSATION. >> OKAY.
>> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE ME TAKING OUT THE WHOLE THING, NOT HAVING TO SPECIFY MAKES SENSE. OKAY. SO, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, 250 FROM PARKS AND REC, 400 FROM POLICE, 300 FROM FIRE DEPARTMENT, 423, IT'S NOT CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT, OKAY.
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AS YOU SAID, LAST WEEK, I PROPOSED $1.5 MILLION IN CUTS TO GET RID OF TWO GOLF COURSES.THAT MORE THAN COVERS WHAT MY COLLEAGUE IS ASKING FOR HERE. I AM GOING TO VOTE YES ON THIS, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO GET OUR TAX RATE LOWER BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME.
I DO NOT WANT TO CUT THAT OUT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. I PROPOSE $1.5 MILLION FROM GOLF COURSES NOT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT. YOU
ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. HONESTLY, I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM THE IDEA OF TAKING $400,000 FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND $300 FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU WANT TO VIEW IT, LOOK AT IT, TURN IT AROUND, TOSS IT UP. WE'RE STILL TAKING MONEY FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THAT MAKES
ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME. AND UTTERLY ASSNINE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO CALL
FOR THE QUESTION BY VOICE. >> THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR, ANY OBJECTION TO THE
QUESTION? >> I OBJECT. >> OKAY. WE'RE ON THE BOARD.
>> HANG ON A MINUTE BEFORE YOU VOTE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE BOARD. IT REQUIRES TWO THIRDS NON-DEBATABLE MOTION WHICH IS NINE OF US. SO, YOU ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT WHICH IS TO SUBSTITUTE SPRING CREEK PARKWAY FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE'RE VOTE TO GO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. ANY
MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE. TAKE THE VOTE. >> 10 YES. 3 NO, 0 ABSTAIN.
>> THE QUESTION PASSES. WE'RE NOW VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. AND THAT AMENDMENT IS TO REDUCE THE SPRING CREEK PARKWAY CAPITAL BUDGET AS A PART OF AMENDMENT THREE. SO, I WOULD ASK ALL MEMBERS TO CAST YOUR VOTES. EVERY MEMBER VOTED ANY MEMBER
WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? >> FOR THE RECORD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS TO CHANGE IT FROM CAPITAL PROJECTS TO BASICALLY CAPITAL PROJECTS SPRING CREEK PROJECT BUT ALSO THE AMOUNT NEEDS TO BE $423,000
$159. >> GOT IT. ANY MEMBER VOTED. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE.
>>> I THOUGHT WE VOTED. >> OKAY. WE'RE CHANGING THE VOTE. CHANGING THE NUMBER, EXCUSE ME. EVERY MEMBER PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE ONE MORE TIME. EVERY MEMBER VOTED ANY MEMBER
WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE. >> 5 YES, 8 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. >> AMENDMENT FAILS, WE'RE NOW ON THE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN YOU ARE ON THE LIST DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK
TO THE AMENDMENT? >> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> OKAY. SO, I CAN'T I CAN NOT AGREE WITH REMOVING $400,000 FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I CAN NOT AGREE WITH REMOVING $300,000 FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, I WON'T DO THAT.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THAT $400,000 AND REMOVE IT FROM THE GOLF COURSE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE $300,000 AND REMOVE IT FROM THE SWAN LAKE GOLF COURSE AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT $300,000 AND REMOVE IT FROM THE MASON RUDOLPH GOLF COURSE.
>> $400,000 FROM THE SWAN LAKE GOLF COURSE. $300,000 FROM THE MADISON RUDOLPH GOLF COURSE.
>> OKAY. SO THIS WOULD BE A NEW AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT NUMBER 3?
>> YES, I NEED A SECOND. >> WE NEED THIS IN WRITING, PLEASE.
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>> LET'S PUT THIS IN WRITING, IF YOU DON'T MIND AND WE'LL PASS IT AROUND.
>> I'M WRITING IT RIGHT NOW. >> CAN I GET A POINT OF EXPLANATION?
>> YOU SURE CAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I REALIZE CAPITAL PROJECT SUNSHINE A LINE ITEM BUT AREN'T WE ESSENTIALLY JUST SAYING WE'RE TAKING THIS FROM PARKS? AREN'T WE LOOKING AT IT THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY -- AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING A LINE ITEM VETO TO SAY WE'RE TAKE TING SPECIFICALLY FROM EACH GOLF
COURSE? >> MR. BAKER? MISS MATA? >> THERE ARE TWO THINGS, THEY'RE LISTED INDEPENDENTLY ON YOUR ORDINANCE AS EACH GOVERNMENT COURSE AND PARKS BUT AT THE PACK OF THE ORDINANCE IT SAYS PARKS AND THE GOLF COURSE ARE TREATED AS ONE FOR BUDGET
TRANSFERS. SO, WHAT DO YOU THINK, LANCE? >> DON'T PUT THIS ON ME.
>> WELL, WHAT'S THE LEGAL PART OF THAT ONE? >> I ALWAYS TURN TO THE LAW.
>> IT'S JUST REALLY I'M NOT SURE I'M GOING TO GIVE AWE GOOD ANSWER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE CODE REALLY ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE OF HOW WE TREAT THE GOLF COURSES. IT JUST SAYS, DEPARTMENTS AND PROGRAMS OF THE CITY SHALL PREPARE BUDGETS DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR, IMPLEMENT BUDGETS AS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. TOTAL APPROPRIATION APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT SHALL NOT BE EXCEEDED. THERE'S NO REAL ANSWER. IN MY THIRTEEN YEARS HERE, THE GOLF COURSES HAVE BEEN TREATED SEPARATE AS PART OF PARKS AND REC, IT'S BEGUN BACK AND FORTH MULTIPLE TIMES AS I RECALL, SO, I THINK THE CHAIR IS GOING TO HAVE TO RULETHON AS IT WHETHER IT'S IN
ORDER OR NOT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BAKER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US TO REMOVE $400,000 FROM THE SWAN LAKE GOLF COURSE BUDGET AND THAT BUDGET IS $1,038,000 IN CHANGE WHICH WOULD REDUCE IT TO ROUGHLY $600,000 IN CHANGE. MASON RUDOLPH IS LISTED AND REDUCE TO 168,161, I WOULD SAID FOR US TO SEE GET US IN A HUNGER GAMES SITUATION PITTING ONE CITY SERVICE AGAINST ANOTHER IN THIS. I THINK WE'RE GOING DOWN A ROAD HERE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN. FOLKS. COUNCILPERSON LITTLE DID YOU
WISH TO SPEAK TO THE? >> I HAVEN'T EVEN SPOKE ON MINE YET, SIR.
>> YOU DID INTRODUCE IT, SO GO AHEAD. >> WHAT COUNCILPERSON ALLEN'S TELLING ME IS THAT SHE WANTS TO CHANGE THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT WHICH THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT JUST FAILED A FEW MOMENTS AGO. SO YOU'RE LEFT WITH AMENDMENT THREE, THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT, SHE WANTS TO AMENDMENT IT TO TAKE $400,000 FROM SWAN LAKE AND $300,000 FROM MASON RUDOLPH, AS THE ORIGINAL VERSION THAT WAS GOING TO BE COMING $400,000 FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND $300,000 FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THE 250 FROM PARKS AND REC AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM AND YOU DON'T
WANT TO DO THE CAPITAL PROBLEM. >> WHAT I REM WANT TO DO IS NOT TAKE IT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HOW DO I DO THAT? >> ALL RIGHT.
>> IT PROBABLY OUGHT TO BE A SECOND AMENDMENT. >> THE FIRST QUESTION DO YOU WANT TO DECREASE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE THAT THE TOTAL $0.04 THAT THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT
CALLS FOR? >> WE CAN LEAVE IT LIKE THAT. >> YOU GOT TO COME UP WITH $1,373,109. SUBSTITUTE IN THE REYNOLDS'S AMOUNT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SWAN LAKE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN SUBSTITUTE MASON RUDOLPH FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S THE
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$300,000. >> RIGHT. >> AND THEN YOU STILL, UNDER YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT YOU WOULD STILL BE TRACKING THE $250,000 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS WERE
PARKS AND REC. >> THAT DIDN'T PASS. >> I KNOW, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MEET HER $0.04 REDUCTION, YOU'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH $1,373,153. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> YES. >> SO RIGHT NOW YOU ARE AT $700,000 $400,000 FROM SWAN LAKE AND $300,000 FROM MASON RUDOLPH, AND 250 FROM PARKS AND REC. YOU ARE STILL SHORT, $423,153,000.
WHERE DO YOU WANT TO PULL THAT FROM? CAPITAL PROJECTS? >> SO, IF I JUST DID
>> CAN I GET A POINT OF INFORMATION? >> PEAOINT OF INFORMATION FOR
COUNCILPERSON GARRETT YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING JUST DECREASING THE CAPITAL PROJECTS IN AND OF ITSELF, DOESN'T NECESSARILY EFFECT THE TAX RATE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DECREASE IN IT, LIKE A TRANSFER. AND SO,
YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? >> YOU MIGHT HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN SPRING CREEK OR LOOKING TO A CAPITAL PROJECT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE MOVE UNLESS WE HAVE ANOTHER
TRANSFER TO OFFSET THAT. >> IS THAT A QUESTION? >> WE'LL FORM IT INTO A
QUESTION. AND WE'LL LET OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. >> IT'S COMPLICATED, ALL RIGHT, GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTS IS NOT JUST YOUR CHECK BOOK, IT IS COMPLICATED THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE FUNDS SO THE AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE REDUCING A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND IF WE'RE GOING TO EXACT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THEY WORK TOGETHER BUT THEY'RE SEPARATE AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE SEPARATE BY LAW. THE STATE OF TENNESSEE MANDATES THAT THEY'RE SEPARATE. IT'S TWO POTS OF MONEY AND HOW REINTERACT WITH
THE TWO DEPENDS ON YOUR END GOAL. >> SO, HOW DO I NEED TO COME
WITH THIS $4,423,059. >> FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU ARE REDUCING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT HERE'S THE OTHER KICKER, SPRING CREEK IS PREVIOUSLY FUNDED.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANY SPECIFIC, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE DIVIDED ACROSS ALL OF THEM LIKE WE WERE GOING TO DO LAST TIME, SO, HOW DO I MAKE IT DO THAT? SO, AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, LAST WEEK WHEN SHE MADE THE AMENDMENT, HOLD ON LET ME FIND IT. WHEN SHE MADE THE AMENDMENT, YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE THE WHERE SHE CLARIFIED IT IS WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THE GENERAL BALANCE AND TRANSFER IT TO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN OR WHATEVER, I WANT TO DO THE SAME
THING WITH THIS $423,000. >> SO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIND A PROJECT BEING FUNDED.
>> SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO FIND A PROJECT. >> BECAUSE SHE WAS REMOVING ALL
OF IT, WE WOULD HAVE UNFUNDED THE ENTIRE. >> CORRECT, BUT A MINUTE AGO, WHAT YOU EXPLAINED TO HER WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS TRANSFERRING LEG TO, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS DOING
ALL OF IT, IT WAS STILL EFFECT THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. >> YES, IT WAS TAKEN FROM BOTH.
>> BUT SHE DID NOT HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE BUDGET. >> THIS IS A SMALL PIECE, I
DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TAKE IT FROM. >> I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I DO. AND I'M TRYING TO LEAD YOU THROUGH THIS, AND IT IS VERY COMPLICATED AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FOLLOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO WHEN THERE'S SO MANY CHANGES. SO, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE
COVER THE RIGHT THINGS WHEN YOU ASKED QUESTIONS. >> SO, I CAN'T SAY IN MY
AMENDMENT TO BE DIVIDED EQUALLY AMONG ALL PROJECTS. >> HOLD THAT THOUGHT, WE WERE
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ON A POINT OF ORDER, COUNCILPERSON GARRETT DID YOU GET THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION?>> I GOT THE ANSWER TO PART ONE OF IT. AND THEN THE SECOND PART FOR THE POINT OF INFORMATION WAS FOR MR. BAKER IN BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A LOT BEING DONE ON THE FLY, YOU KNOW, AND DEFINITELY WANT TO GET IT RIGHT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT TO BE ABLE TO CARRY OUT THEIR DAY-TO-DAY DUTIES. MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. BAKER IS, A MOTION TO ADJOURN STOPS EVERYTHING. AND THEN, THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION AT A LATER TIME AT WHICH POINT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AND FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO MAKE REDUCTIONS JUST TO PUT A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT INTO ACTUALLY WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO PULL FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO EQUAL UP TO THE AMOUNT FOR WHATEVER DESIRED TAX RATE REDUCTION THAT THEY'RE SEEKING IS THAT PRETTY ACCURATE?
>> CLOSE. THE MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION.
>> FAIR ENOUGH. >> THE EFFECT OF HIM NOT DOING THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH WOULD BE THAT THE BUDGET WOULD REVERT BACK TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. AND IT WOULD STAY THAT WAY UNLESS AND UNTIL IS A SPECIAL CALLED SESSION WAS CALLED BY THE MAYOR OR BY SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL UNDER THAT PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL TO DO IT, A MAJORITY OF THE FULL MEMBERSHIP TO DO IT. AND UNTIL, SUCH TIME AS A NEW BUDGET IS
APPROVED ON SECOND READING. >> OKAY. >> AND THE ONLY THING THAT
WOULD COME -- >> AND THAT UNDER THAT RULE OF LAW THAT'S IN THE CODE IF YOU REVERT TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE WE DON'T PASS A NEW BUDGET BEFORE THE END OF THE
FISCAL YEAR, THERE'S NO -- YOU CAN'T DO ANY CAPITAL SPENDING. >> FAIR ENOUGH.
>> A LOT OF PROJECTS WILL COME TO A GRINDING HALT, OR THEY COULD.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS EVENING, WOULD WE REDO THOSE VOTES OR ARE THEY ALREADY GOOD, WE WOULD JUST COME BACK FOR THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW.
>> EVERYTHING PASSED AMENDMENT WISE TO THE BUDGET WOULD CARRY OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING IF THERE IS A NEXT MEETING, BUT ALL OF THOSE VOTES COULD BE UNDONE TOO BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST
AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET. >> FAIR ENOUGH. >> AND OF COURSE, THE RED RULE
DOES NOT APPLY TO BUDGET AMENDMENTS. >> CERTAINLY. OKAY.
>> WOULD A MOTION TO ADJOURN, IT COULD BE MOTIONED ANYTIME, RIGHT?
>> I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> THAT'S OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE YOU ASKED FOR A POINT OF INFORMATION AND YOU GOT THE
POINT OF INFORMATION. >> RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM IF IT COULD BE MADE ANYTIME.
>> YOU HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO MAKE A MOTION. >> YOU WERE RECOGNIZED FOR A
POINT OF INFORMATION Z FAIR ENOUGH. >> SO, MAY I MAKE IS POINT OF
ORDER, MAYOR? >> YES, YOU MAY. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OBJECT TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT TO THE CONSIDERATION OF
THE QUESTION BEFORE US. BECAUSE EVIDENTLY, WE'RE GOING. >> THE AMENDMENT?
>> THE AMENDMENT. >> THE ONE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US CURRENTLY.
>> WELL, I THINK YOU'RE -- >> YOU'RE SAYING IT CAN'T BE TAKEN OR IT CAN, SOMEBODY SHOULD
MAKE A RULING ON THAT WHAT HAPPENED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS. >> I DO THINK THE MAYOR IS WRITE THAT COUNCILPERSON GARRETT RAISED A POINT OF INFORMATION AND HE'S NOT ENTITLED TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE HE WAS CALLED ONTO RAISE A POINT OF INFORMATION.
>> NOW, HE COULD PUNCH HIS BUTTON AGAIN AND THE MAYOR COULD CALL ON HIM WHENEVER THE MAYOR
DECIDED TO CALL ON HIM. >> I WAS SPEAKING OF THE AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF US. WE D YET IN FRONT OF US, WE WERE GIVING HER TIME TO FLUSH OUT WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS.
>> SORRY, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> I THINK, DID I CHARACTERIZE
THAT CORRECTLY? >> YES. >> OKAY. OKAY. SO, DO WE HAVE
THAT AMENDMENT? NOT YET? NO >> NO, I DON'T. >> MAYOR?
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>> YES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECESS FOR 15 MINUTES.
>> OKAY, THE MOTION'S BEEN MADE TO RECESS FOR 15 MINUTES AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY
OBJECTION TO RECESSING UNTIL 7: (RECESS) >>> BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.
COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, DO YOU HAVE YOUR AMENDMENT IN WRITING SO WE COULD SEE IT?
>> SHE'S ALMOST DONE WITH IT. >> OKAY. >> HERE YOU GO.
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>> OKAY, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.
>> WE NEED TO ADD TWO TRANSFERS ON THERE, BECAUSE NOW SHE HAS EVERYTHING BALANCED, WE HAVE TO ADD TO REDUCE THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND BY $423,159. AND IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION OF $423,159.
>> PLEASE, WRITE THAT DOWN SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. >> OKAY.
>> I'M TRYING. >> OKAY. >>> OKAY IS THIS IN PLACE OF
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WHAT WE JUST GOT? OKAY. >> I'M JUST HIDING IT SO I DON'T REFER TO IT.
>>> DOES EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF THE LAST VERSION WITH THE TRANSFER, COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> OKAY. SO, I KNOW THERE WAS A BIG LONG RECESS AND EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK I GOT MY AMENDMENT TOGETHER AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MY MOTION TO APPROVE IT.
>> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> WHEN LOOKING AT THE BUDGET WE LOOK AT PARKS AND RECREATION AND IN THAT, FOR THEM TO BE LOSING A WHOLE PROGRAM, THERE IS A SURPLUS IN THAT, THERE IS A WHOLE EXTRA AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THAT. SO, THAT IS WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE $250,000 REDUCTION SO THAT WE COULD GET THIS TAX INCREASE DOWN. A $250,000 REDUCTION IN THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET. NOW, FOR SWAN LAKE AND MASON RUDOLPH I'M PROPOSING THE $400,000 DECREASE AND $300,000 DECREASE. IF WE CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT ENDLESSLY PUTS US IN THE RED, WE'RE JUST LOSING MONEY AND THAT'S A WASTE OF TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS AT THE END OF THE DAY. THAT $300,000, AND THAT $400,000, LET'S SEE WHAT WOOER DOING WITH A SMALLER BUDGET, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, WE'RE WASTING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THESE GOLF COURSES. AND THEN WHAT I DID FOR THE 423,159 IS I DIVIDED THAT UP EQUALLY AMONGST ALL OF OUR ROAD PROJECTS. SO WE'RE SPENDING A LITTLE LESSON EACH ROAD PROJECT AND PRAYERFULLY, THE $7 MILLION IS OUT FROM THE COVID FUNDS AND THE ARK MONEY WILL BE ABLE TO
PUSH ON THAT WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE RESTRICTIONS. >> I'VE GOT A LIST, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD WISH TO SPEAK TO THE ALLEN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILPERSON
LITTLE ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? >> YES.
>> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. >> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MY FIRST ONE GOES TO THE GOLF COURSE, I GUESS, THE SWAN LAKE AND MASON, SO, ARE THE BUDGET FOR THEM, DOES THAT INCLUDE I'M GUESSING THAT INCLUDES THE EMPLOYEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT TORICS THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT GET PAID OUT OF THAT BUDGET?
>> YES. >> GOING TO MY NEXT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT SOMETHING THAT LOOKS A LITTLE WEIRD, WHEN I LOOK AT THE MASON, GOVERNMENT COURSE AND THE SWAN LAKE GOLF COURSE, I SEE IT SAYS PART-TIME SALARIES, QUANTITY OF $122,000, IS THAT GOING TO ONE PERSON OR IS THAT MULTIPLE PEOPLE?
>> NO. >> NO. >> I HAD TO MAKE SURE I SAW A
QUANTITY OF ONE. >> IT GOES SEASONAL. >> OKAY. I GUESS MY ONLY THING I'M THINKING ABOUT IS IF WE DO REDUCE THE BUDGET THAT MUCH, HOW ARE WE GOING TO EFFECT THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK THERE. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS, AS WE'VE SAID BEFORE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE NOT HAVING FINANCES AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO LIVE IN CLARKSVILLE, I WOULD HATE TO SEE US TAKE MONEY OUT OF POCKETS LIKE YOU ARE TAKING JOBS
AWAY BY TAKING THAT MUCH MONEY OUT OF THEIR BUDGET. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.
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>> COUNCILPERSON EVANS? YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> I DID. THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, ACTUALLY ASKED MY QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE WOULD LOSE? >> WELL,
>> CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THAT? >> I THINK THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS MOST OF THEM. MASON RUDOLPH, WE'RE REDUCING A $468,000 BUDGET BY $300,000 WHICH HAS A GREAT IMPACT ON THE ABILITY TO KEEP UP THAT COURSE AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE. SWAN LAKE, THE TOTAL BUDGET IS A MILLION AND CHANGE, WE'RE REDUCING THAT ON $400,000, SO IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE OPERATIONS WHICH WOULD
IMPACT THE EMPLOYEES SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER. >> OKAY.
>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN DID YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?
>> YES, SIR. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. LOOKING AT THIS AND AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY THE FUNDING FOR SWAN LAKE AND MASON RUDOLPH, I DON'T SEE HOW EITHER ONE OF THOSE GOLF COURSES WOULD REMAIN IN OPERATION. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT TOO, THAT THEY PRODUCE A REVENUE, THEY MAY NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES, BUT THEY DO PRODUCE A REVENUE. LOOK AT THAT OPPOSED TO OUR RECREATION CENTERS, NONE OF OUR RECREATION CENTERS PRODUCE THE REVENUE THAT OUR GOLF COURSES DO. THE POOLS DO NOT PRODUCE THE KIND OF REVENUE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A NEW RECREATION CENTER BUT YET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT COURSES, AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, YOU'VE GOT A WILL THE OF SENIOR CITIZENS THAT LIKE TO GO OUT AND PLAY, IN FACT, THEY'RE A CORE BASE OF WHAT ARE IN THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF SOLDIERS THAT LIKE TO PLAY AT OUR GOLF COURSES. THE HIGH SCHOOL GOVERNMENT TEAMS GO IN THERE AND PLAY FOR FREE. YOU GOT AUSTIN P STUDENTS GOING IN THERE TO PLAY. SWAN LAKE IS THE ONLY 18 HOLE GOVERNMENT COURSE IN CLARKSVILLE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A MEMBERSHIP THERE. YOU ARE LOOKING AT A COST THAT YOU ARE GIVING TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY THE OTHER AMENITIES.
YOU ALSO HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. A LOT OF EXECUTIVES AND STUFF THAT REICH TO COME OVER AND PLAY AT OUR GOLF COURSES. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT WITH DOING AWAY WITH THE AMENITIES, YOU'RE DOING AWAY WITH THE RECRUITMENT TOOL THAT IS BRING IN THE BUSINESSES TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT CREATE JOBS. I KNOW WHEN I WAS CAN NOING ON DOORS, I HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE WHITE COLLAR JOBS. MANY OF THEM HAVE TO GO TO NASHVILLE TO WORK.
THE MORE AND MORE WE TAKE AWAY FROM OUR COMMUNITY, THE LESS LIKELY WE ARE TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT THOSE TYPES OF JOBS. SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING OUR BUDGET BY $700,000 FOR THE GOVERNMENT COURSES AND ANOTHER $250,000 FOR PARKS AND REC. ON TOP OF THAT REDUCING EACH OF THESE PROJECTS BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT, POSSIBLY LEAVING US UNABLE TO FINISH THEM. IT WOULDN'T BE WISE TO USE OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR PART OF IT AND NOT FINISH IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW QUICKLY THEY NEED TO BE USED. WHICH IS WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN ALLOTTING THOSE TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ALL THE PROJECTS TAKE TIME. I DON'T THINK IT'S A WISE GAMBLE FOR US TO MAKE WITH OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WE KNOW WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS AS FAR AS THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS CONCERNED. WE NO THAT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY APPRECIATE HAVING AMENITIES, I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM OUR SENIOR CITIZENS AND THE KIDS WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE STATEMENT WAS MADE, I'M JUST FRY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NOT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE JUST VOTE THIS DOWN OVERALL AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE OR TAKE FROM EITHER ONE. I WOULD ASK THAT
YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >>> COUNCILPERSON KNIGHT, DID
YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? >> YES, MAYOR.
>> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AS FAR AS THE ARP FUNDS GOES, THAT'S AN IF IT GETS APPROVED, NOT A WHEN. I KNOW FOR THE COUNTY WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT ON THAT END QUITE SOME TIME IN REGARDS TO IT. SO, THAT'S AN ISSUE THERE. WITH ALL THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED IN THE CITY, I CAN'T SEE PERSONALLY TAKING AWAY FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ROAD IMPROVEMENT CONSIDERING ALL THE REQUIRED ROADWORK THAT WE NEED AND
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INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT WE NEED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CLARKSVILLE, WHICH I KNOW THE SPONSOR OF THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT HAS SPOKEN TO FERVENTLY AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS. I CAN'T SEE MYSELF TAKING ANY MONEY OUT OF ANY ROAD PROJECTS.I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE THE FACT ABOUT FROM ONE PREVIOUS SPEAKER IN REGARDS TO EMPLOYEE SALARIES, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST COMING OFF OF COVID WHERE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULDN'T EVEN GET MONEY FROM THE STATE IN REGARDS TO THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT. SO, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ONE DEPARTMENT AND THEN RUN THE RISK OF REDUCING SALARIES OR HAVING PEOPLE FIRED FROM THEIR JOBS ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T PAY THEM. THAT RAISES A BIG QUESTION TO ME. AND ESSENTIAL,
I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS. SO, THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. >>> COUNCILPERSON REDD DID YOU
WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. >> I WANTED TO CALL FOR THE
QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT. >> OKAY. THE MOTION IS TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT ANY OBJECTION TO CALLING FOR THE QUESTION?
>> WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE BOARD. ON THE SCREEN, ON THE BOARD, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO REFER TO IT. AND LET'S GIVE THE CLERK TIME TO PUT THAT UP THERE. WE WILL BE VOTING TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION WHICH IS TO CEASE DISCUSSION NONDEBATABLE. REQUIRES 2 THIRDS WHICH IS NINE
OF US. OKAY. EVERY MEMBER VOTE. >> EVERY MEMBER VOTED ANY
MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? >> WE'RE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. MADAM CLERK TAKE THE VOTE. 10 YES. 3 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. MOTION PASSES WE'RE NOW VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT FROM ALLEN.
>> EVERY MEMBER VOTE. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE V
VOTE? >> 4 YES, 9 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. >> THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT FAILS. WE'RE NOW BACK ON AMENDMENT THREE AS PRESENTED. I HAVE TWO PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO OUR ORIGINAL AMENDMENT?
>> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC AND TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IT AS WELL. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED $7,698,000 FOR VEHICLES ON THIS BUDGET USING THE ARP FUNDS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WE WILL CALL ON OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION. >> YOU ASKED IF WE ARE SPENDING THAT IN ARP FUNDS?
>> THIS PAGE THAT YOU SUPPLIED EARLIER TO ME, $7,698,735 FOR VEHICLES, $466,100 FOR THE
SENIOR CITIZENS. >> YEAH, THAT'S NOT ALL ARP FUNDS.
>> BUT IT'S COVID MONEY? >> DIFFERENT THINGS. >> SO, WE'LL CALL IT COVID MONEY. $240,000 FOR THE THEATER. $849,480 FOR THE MUSEUM.
>> SO THAT IS MONEY THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST COME OUT OF OUR REVENUE, LIKE IF WE DID NOT HAVE COVID FUNDS, MOST OF THAT MONEY WOULD COME OUT OF OUR CURRENT REVENUE, IS THAT
CORRECT? >> OUT OF OUR CURRENT GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
>> SO, THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OF OUR COVID MONEY WE HAVE A SURPLUS IN OUR FUND OF
$9,254,000 AND 315. THAT'S THE TOTAL? >> NO, WE DO NOT. WE WOULD HAVE NEVER INCLUDED ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. AND THAT'S WHAT THE
MAYOR AND I WOULD HAVE WORKED ON. >> BUT THE SENIOR CITIZENS, THE ROCKSY, THE MUSEUM AND AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED WE USUALLY SPEND 800 TO ONE MILLION DOLLAR IN VEHICLES FOR OUR POLICE. AND WE'RE USING THIS MONEY THIS YEAR SO WE COULD BUY OTHER THINGS
WITHIN THEIR BUDGET IN ADDITION THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, CORRECT? >> IT'S NOT NECESSARILY OTHER
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THINGS, IT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO OPERATE, YES. >> RIGHT. BUT THIS IS AN
ADDITIONAL SURPLUS TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. >> WE'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL
FUNDS FROM ANOTHER SOURCE, YES. >> AND GENERALLY WE STILL HAVE, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN THE BANK OF COVID MONEY THAT IS NOT ALLOCATED BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE RULES?
>> $7.6 MILLION. >> SO, I JUST WANT TO TELL THE COMMUNITY THE ATTEMPT AT MY AMENDMENTS WERE BECAUSE ALL OF THIS EXTRA MONEY THIS YEAR WE DO NOT NEED TO TAKE THE TOTAL $0.20, I'VE CONTINUALLY STATED THAT I SUPPORT OUR DIRECTORS AND I SUPPORT OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN. AND I NEVER INDICATED THAT THIS WOULD BE A CUT. WE HAVE -- A LOT, LOT OF MONEY HERE THIS YEAR THAT WE COULD REALLOCATE AND TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS AND MORE THAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE LEAVE THIS ROOM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE POLICE, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PARKS, IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO GET OUR LEADERSHIP TO USE THIS MONEY TO SAVE ON OUR TAX RATES. JUST TO BE CLEAR. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, DID YOU WISH TO ADDRESS AMENDMENT
NUMBER 3. >> IN DEED. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. I
WASN'T SURE IF WE GOT THE FUNDS? >> WE HAVE THE FIRST ROUND OF FUNDING, THEY'RE IN AN INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT. WE'RE WAITING FOR THE RULES THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO THINGS WITH THAT, THAT
WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU.
>> AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SO, THIS ENTIRE BUDGET IS BASED ON THE TAX RATE THAT WE'RE
VOTING ON, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> NOT THE CURRENT TAX RATE,
THE TAX RATE WE WANT? >> $1.23. >> IS THAT BASED, I MEAN, IS
THAT STATE, DOES THE STATE REQUIRE THAT WE DO THAT? >> THE STATE REQUIRES WE HAVE A
BALANCED BUDGET AND TO SUBMIT IT ON TIME. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THAT IF WE'RE ASKING FOR A TAX INCREASE OUR BUDGET SHOULD BE BASED ON WHAT THE TAX RATE IS, RATHER THAN WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE. TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, IS ARGUING OVER NOTIONAL MONEY. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE TAX INCREASE TO $1.23 IS SO THAT WE COULD GET LOANS AS A BETTER INTEREST RATE, BIGGER LOANS, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION 2020 PLAN. SO WE'RE SPENDING MONEY NOTIONAL MONEY, MONEY IN OUR HEADS, BASED ON THE TAX RATE THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO PASS AND IT'S LIKE ALL IN ONE. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. WE DISCUSSED WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO TAKE THE MONEY FROM THE TWO GOVERNMENT COURSES SO MY QUESTION NOW, WITH THIS, IS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS QUESTION AND THE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS FROM THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT. WHAT WILL $400,000 FROM CPD AND $300,000 FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DO? AND THAT'S A RHETORICAL QUESTION, WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT G I'M GOING TO SAY TWO THINGS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TALK ABOUT THIS WITH MY PERSONAL ADVISORS OVER THE WEEKEND AND I WANT TO SAY TWO THINGS THAT THEY TOLD ME THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME. AND THE FIRST THING IS, FROM MY MENTOR, IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM A DEPARTMENT AND THE DEPARTMENT CEASES TO EXIST, THEN I WOULD HOPE THAT WE AS A CITY WOULD HELP FIND PLACES FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES IN OTHER PLACES. AND THE SECOND THING WAS FROM MY HUSBAND, WHO SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY AND THIS APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING $700,000 FROM OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND $250,000 FROM PARKS AND REC, IF WE'RE GOING TO START CUTTING MONEY FROM BUDGETS, WHICH IN MY OPINION NEEDS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE, I WOULD SURE HOPE AND THIS IS FOR ERIC, THAT YOU WOULD NOT START, AND THIS IS TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND I'M SURE YOU WOULD AGREE THAT YOU WOULD NOT START BY CUTTING YOUR STAFF, THAT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST PLACE YOU WOULD LOOK. SO I HAD TO SAY THAT FOR HIM. AND MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT STANDS. AND I KNOW
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THAT THAT MAKES PEOPLE REALLY UNHAPPY. BUT WE HAVE GOT TO GET AND THIS IS COMING FROM MY CONSTITUENTS THAT E-MAIL ME IT LOOKS LIKE THIS, EXACT QUOTE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON A SPENDINGSPREE AFTER A YEAR OF COVID. THANK YOU. >>> COUNCILPERSON REDD, DID YOU
WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT? >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
>> QUESTION'S BEEN CALLED FOR IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE QUESTION?
>> I HEAR NONE. SO, WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTES. EVERY MEMBER VOTED? ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE. MAD GAM CLERK TAKE THE
VOTE. 3 YES, 10 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. >> AMENDMENT THREE FAILS. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN DO YOU
WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? >> NO. >> OKAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER SHEET
OF AMENDMENTS, GARRETT AMENDMENTS, I THINK? NO? >> OKAY. WE HAVE NO MORE
AMENDMENTS. >> HE SAID NO. >> SO HE DOESN'T WISH TO INTRODUCE THEM. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW VOTING ON ORDINANCE 128 AS PRESENTED AS AMENDED SO
MADAM CLERK, GET US ON THE BOARD. >> WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON?
>> WE'RE VOTING ON ORDINANCE 128 AS AMENDED. >> OKAY. HERE WE ARE,
ORDINANCE 128, EVERY MEMBER VOTE, PLEASE. >> EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY
MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEY ARE VOTE? >> MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.
>>> 6 YES, 7 NO, 0 ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 128 FAILS ON SECOND READING. THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THIS SPECIAL SESSION
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.