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>> THIS IS THE CLARKSVILLE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2021 IT IS 4:30 PM WE WANT TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST COUNCILMEMBERS ZACHARIAS AND MARQUIS, WELCOME.
WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE AND WE WANT TO SAY WELCOME TO THE NEW CITY CLERK, LISA CANFIELD. YOU WILL NOTICE THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA HAVE TO DO WITH THE REGULAR SECTION NEXT WEEK AND THE OATH OF OFFICE AND NEXT THURSDAY AND THEN THE ELECTION OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM WE WILL HAVE A NOMINATION FOR
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YOUAT THE REGULAR SESSION NEXT WEEK SO WE ARE NOW READY FOR A SHORT PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT .MR. KENDALL TWO SENTENCES PER ITEM AND ORDINANCE ITEM 1 ORGANIST 12 2021 22.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS BRIEF AND SET EXPECTATIONS HIGH. THIS IS A CARRYOVER FROM TWO MONTHS AGO THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION CASE Z 41 2021 ORDINANCE 1220 2122 AGENT BERT SINGLETARY THIS PROPERTY WAS A NORMAL PROCESS THIS WAS HELD TO COUNCILMEMBERS TO COME IN AND HAVE A OPINION ON THIS ONE AND GETTING IT MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 445 FEET EAST AND THE MILLS WOULD DRIVE INTERSECTION THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT COMMENTS AND CONCERNS WE HEARD FROM THE DEPARTMENTS A TRIP GENERATION REPORT WAS RECEIVED AND ACCEPTED THE DRAINAGE, SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS VERY IMPORTANT WILL BE REQUIRED AND ANY OTHER, INVOLVING THE SCHOOL CAPACITY THIS PICTURE MILLS WILL DRIVE LOOKING INTO THE SITE THAT SELLS TOWERS AT THE CENTER OF THE SITE AND THIS IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND THIS IS LOOKING INTO MILLS WITH THE FIRST HOUSE ON YOUR LEFT AND THE LEFT OF THIS WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPERTY AND ONE OF THE ENTRANCES TO THE PROPERTY AND AROUND THE BACK THERE'S A STREET BACK THERE AND THAT WAS LEONARD DRIVE AND THE PROPERTY DOES AFFRONTED AND THEY STATED THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE THAT VEGETATION UP FOR THE ACCESS AND THEN LOOKING BACK THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND WE WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. KENDALL? SEEING THAT WE ARE READY FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING REPORT ITEM 1 RESOLUTION 20-2122.MR. TEMPLE.
>> THIS IS AN ANNEXATION DONE WITH A RESOLUTION AND THESE ARE THREE PROPERTIES AND THEY STARTED TALKING TO US THEY ALL STARTED TO MATERIALIZE AT THE SAME TIME AND WE COULD DO THIS MOTION ALL ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER HIGHWAY 76 AND THIS IS WITHIN AN AREA ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THE LARGER AREA AROUND THIS WAS ANNEXED TO INCLUDE LIVING HOPE BAPTIST CHURCH HAS A PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AND SINCE THEN THE GRANTS REPRESENT THE LARGEST PROPERTY AT 6 AND A HALF ACRES REQUESTED ANNEXATION AND THE PARTIALS ACROSS THE SLEET THE SLATE TOBACCO BARN THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND A FORMER HOUSE OWNED BY A FAMILY THAT DID NOT WISH TO ANNEX LAST TIME SINCE THEN THE BARN AND THE HOUSE HAD BEEN SOLD THE HOUSE HAS BEEN ACQUIRED BY LIVING HOPE BAPTIST CHURCH THE BARN HAS BEEN ACQUIRED BY MR. ÃHE OWNS THE PROPERTY AROUND IT AND THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET IN ADDITION TO THE PROPER VOLUNTARY REQUEST FROM THESE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE REQUESTING A REZONING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ANNEXATION
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WE WILL START WITH THE EASIEST ONE THE BLUE PROPERTY THE BARN THE SMALLEST ONE IS ASKING TO GO FROM ÃTWO ARE ONE A SURROUNDS THE PROPERTY SOCIALIST MATCHING EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE HOUSE TO THE EAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT'S REQUESTING TO GO FROM ACT II R 4 AND IT WAS RECENTLY RECEIVED SECOND AS CITY COUNCIL AND THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET IS REQUESTING A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.AT THIS TIME I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
ANNEXATION THE NEXT ANNEXATION >> IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST WALK US THROUGH THE PROCESS IF SOMEONE WISHES TO BE ANNEXED OR NOT.
>> ANNEXATION IS THE PROCESS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS TO TOUCH THE CITY LIMITS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ANNEXED OR BROUGHT IN THE CITY LIMITS THESE PROPERTIES ARE IN THE COUNTY WITHOUT THE CITY LIMITS IMPOSED UPON THEM WHEN THEY EXPAND ALL THE RIGHTS THE CITY OF PROTECTION STREET DEPARTMENT AND THE OTHER RIGHTS THAT COME WITH THAT ALSO CITY TAXES GET IMPOSED ON THESE PROPERTIES AND THEY DO GET ANNEX THERE ARE SOME SAVINGS THAT GO ALONG SUCH AS FIRE PROTECTION AND WATER RATES IN THE TAX RATES WILL SOMETIMES BALANCE OUT AND THEY DO NEED TO PETITION THE MAYOR AND IT DOES NEED TO BE VOLUNTARY BY THE CURRENT OWNERS WE HAVE ALL THAT PAPERWORK ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THE MAYOR RECEIVES THE REQUEST WE HAVE 60 DAYS TO PERFORM THE STUDY AND PREPARE THE PLAN OF SERVICE AND WE BRING IT ALL BACK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. AS FOR THE REZONING WHEN YOU ARE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY YOU HAVE A ONE-SHOT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU ARE CHANGING JURISDICTIONS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN DOING A REZONING REQUEST AND
>> ANY QUESTIONS?EEING NONE ANY QUESTIONS OF RESOLUTION 20 AND ITEM NUMBER TWO AND SOON WITH THE STATE REQUIRES EVERY ANNEXATION REQUEST AND PREPARES A PLANT OF SERVICES CAN THE DEPARTMENTS HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL LOAD UNDER SERVICES THIS TOTAL ANNEXATION COMES IN AT 7.2 ACRES SO RELATIVELY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND ONE HAS A CURRENT HOUSE ON IT AND THEY ARE ADDED AT THIS TIME AND WE SEND A MEMO OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS AND THEY RESPOND BACK AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY CONCERNS AND THIS IS ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION ABOUT FOUR PAGES THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING AVAILABILITY OF LANDS AND HOW THE STREETS GET TRANSFERRED BUT THEY ARE ALL ACCEPTABLE TO THIS RESOLUTION.
>> WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 3 ORDINANCE 31 2021 2022.
>> ALONG WITH EVERY ACCENT Ã ANNEXATION WE HAVE TO ADD THE PROPERTIES TO THE CITY LIMITS AND EVERY TIME THIS HAPPENS THIS IS DONE BY ORDINANCE. THE NEW PROPERTIES NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM THESE PROPERTIES ARE NATURALLY ALIGNED AND THIS MAP IS A MASTER MAP WE HAVE A BLOWUP WITH IT THAT SHOWS THESE PROPERTIES BEING ADDED WE ARE RE-ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ÃNO OTHER LINES ARE MOVING AT THIS TIME EXCEPT FOR THAT LITTLE RED CIRCLE THOSE THREE PROPERTIES.
>> ANY QUESTION ABOUT ORDINANCE 31?EEING NONE AND HEARING NONE WE ARE READY FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR RESOLUTION 22 2021 2022.
>> THIS ONE WE HAVE 2 ABANDONMENT REQUEST THESE ARE RESOLUTIONS ABANDONMENT REQUEST CAN BE MADE BY ANY PROPERTY OWNER ADJACENT TO A PIECE OF CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY THEY WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO CONSIDER VACATING AND GIVING BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF JUANITA PORTER AND CAROLYN DYSON THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF RED RIVER ROAD AND THIS IS A UNPAVED ALLEYWAY IT DOES NOT HAVE UTILITIES ON IT WHEN
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THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THEY NOTICED THERE WAS A FENCE ENCROACHMENT SO THEY CAME TO US TO ASK FOR CONSIDERATION OF ABANDONMENT OF THIS AREA WE ARE SHOWING YOU.>> I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT RESOLUTION 22 SAID APPROVING THE ABANDONMENT ÃABANDONMENT SOUTH OF PETERSON LANE.
>> THIS ONE. PROPERTY OWNERS REQUESTING ABANDONMENT WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE PROPERTY THIS IS SOUTH OF PETERSON LANE THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF ROBERT TAYLOR AND DANIEL RINI SO WHEN WE GET IN ABANDONMENT REQUEST WE SENT IT OUT TO GAS FIRE, POLICE ETC. WE RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS BACK IN THE EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION DOES APPLY A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ABANDONMENT.
THIS IS UNIMPROVED THERE ARE UTILITIES IN HERE THIS DOES GO TO A LARGER TWO OR THREE PARCELS TO THE WEST AS YOU CAN SEE AND HONESTLY FOR THAT REASON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMEND THIS APPROVAL BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY STUB STREET THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED NEXT DOOR IF IT EVER DOES DEVELOP IT DOES APPEAR TO BE A CURRENT FARM FARMS DO TEND TO BECOME HOMES OVER TIME AND THAT HAS A GOOD WITH TO IT FOR HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST NEXT WEEK IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT THERE SO IT COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT RESOLUTION 22? WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 5 RESOLUTION 2320 21-2022.
>> THIS IS JUANITA PORTER AND CAROLYN DYSON THIS IS RED RIVER STREET AND HYMAN STREET AND THIS IS UNIMPROVED ALLEYWAY THERE ARE NO UTILITIES NO CONCERNS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ABANDONMENT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION?
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE IT CLEAR WHEN THERE'S AN ABANDONMENT ARE THEY ACQUIRING THE LAND OR IS THE CITY
ACQUIRING THE LAND? >> THE CITY IS GIVING UP THE LAND TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
TYPICALLY IT WILL GET SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
IT JUST GETS ADDED TO YOUR BACKYARD.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NONE WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 6 WHICH IS ORDINANCE 3320 21 2022.
>> THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION CASE Z 4320 21 THE APPLICATION WITH THE PARTNERS MARK PIRTLE AND LOS DESIGN ARE THE AGENTS POINT 14.02 ACRES OF C5 AND REQUESTING C TO THE PROPERTY FRONTS TINY TOWN ROAD AND ÃROAD INTERSECTIONS.
THIS IS AN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER EIGHT IS A TRACK PREVIOUSLY CLEARED FOR DEVELOPMENT THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS THIS WILL ALLOW US TO USE SOME OF THE FRONTAGE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHILE USING THE BACK FOR MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.THERE IS TINY TOWN ROAD AND THIS WOULD ADD TO THE BACK OF THAT DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET ON TINY TOWN ROAD COMMENTS OR CONCERNS GAS AND WATER UPGRADES WILL BE REQUIRED THE CITY STREET DEPARTMENT SAID YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THE ACCESS ORDINANCE AND THERE ARE CONCERNS FROM THE SCHOOLS ABOUT THE ÃIN THE NORTHEAST AND 168 APARTMENTS OR TOWNHOMES STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THEY PERMIT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GENERAL SERVICES AND ESTABLISHMENTS
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WITH THE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR MIXED-USE RESIDENTIAL THE ADOPTED LAND USE STATES ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES AS A SITE AND NO ADDITIONAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.>> I THINK I HAD A POINT OF CLARITY ON NUMBER FOUR
RESOLUTION 22 SO >> WE WILL ALLOW IT BUT GO AHEAD.
>> SO WHEN WE SAY IF WE VOTE THEY KEEP IT
>> THEY CURRENTLY OWN IT. THEY ARE ASKING FOR IT RECOMMENDING YOU DON'T DO THAT.
>> OKAY. COUNCILPERSON ALAN WHO ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> THIS IS MY WARD ANYWHERE SAYING THERE IS NOT A REQUIRED TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT FOR THEIR, HE WOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? CIVIC THE STREET DEPARTMENT.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WILL BE ONE ACCESS TO THAT AREA OR NO? WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. THAT IS REALLY CONGESTED.
>> THERE IS A THOUSAND FOOT FRONTAGE ON TINY TOWN ROAD AND THEY ARE RELATIVELY INTERCHANGEABLE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE A STUDY AND IF YOU CHANGE THE USE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE TRAFFIC
>> BUT AREN'T YOU ADDING IN HOUSES? YOU ARE ADDING IN APARTMENTS SO THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE IS EXTREMELY CONGESTED ALREADY SO I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO ACCESS THAT THIS IS GOING TO ACCESS ON TINY TOWN? THAT CORNER IS ALREADY DANGEROUS WE HAVE ÃTHAT IS GETTING INTERNET IF YOU LEAVE FOR WORK AT 7:30 AM YOU'RE GOING TO GET STOPPED IF YOU ARE COMING HOME, YOU'RE GOING TO GET STOPPED THAT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA YOU ARE ADDING HUNDRED 44 HOUSES OR UNITS? UNDRED 68 SO THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 200 300 THIRTYSOMETHING CARS AND THIS FRONTAGE I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC IT'S NOT REALLY USED
LAND BUT BEHIND THEIR >> I WILL GET INTO CONTACT WITH THEM THIS WEEK.
>> COUNCILMEMBER STREET MENU ARE RECOGNIZED RATE
>> YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION BUT CAN A KROGER OR A WALMART GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT ON MY SIDE OF TOWN IS DEFINITELY GENERATING 300 CARS A DAY.
>> C5 USES WALMART'S GROCERY STORES STRIP CENTERS THIS COULD HAVE A WALMART OR A PUBLIX OR SOMETHING KROGER IS LOOKING AT IT A LONG TIME AGO THOSE HAVE MORE TRIPS DURING THE DAY AND ALMOST NO TRIPS DURING THE DAY SO THE BALANCES A DIFFERENT TIME OF DAY BUT IT HAS MORE TRIPS OVER THE COURSE OF THE
ENTIRE DAY >> COUNCILMEMBER YOU HAVE THE
>> MY QUESTION IS WITH THIS LAND BEING AS BIG AS IT IS COULDN'T WALMART GO THERE AND BUILD ÃASSUMING THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE IN WHAT WE CALL BIG LOTS AND WHEN SOMEONE STARTS USING THIS THEY ARE UNDER THAT THRESHOLD WE CAN SEE STRIP CENTERS OR OFFICE BUILDINGS
>> WHAT I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO DOES NOT WANT THIS REZONED, PLEASE CONTACT ME.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 33.
SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 7 MR.
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TYNDALL?>> THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION Z 49 2021 THIS WAS CARRIED OVER LAST MONTH FROM CITY COUNCIL THERE WAS AN ERROR IN ADVERTISING AND IN ORDER TO BE AS LEGAL AS POSSIBLE YOU DEFERRED IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WE RE-ADVERTISED IT AND WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE NUMBER AND THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF WILLIAM ÃAS THE AGENT 7.27 ACRES AND YOU CAN SEE THE C5 IS THE FIRST COUPLE HUNDRED FEET AND IT'S NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IT'S ON TINY TOWN ROAD AND CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER FIVE IT'S A SEMI-WOODED TRACK WITH A MILD SLOPE AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS FOR COMMERCIAL AND FAMILY DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE C5 FRONTAGES AND SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY.
HERE'S THE PROPERTY ON THE LEFT THERE'S OUR SIGN IN FRONT OF IT THIS IS SOME OF THAT CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT COMMENTS AND CONCERNS NO GRAVITY SEWER IS AVAILABLE A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS REQUIRED AND APPROVED AND NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS EXCEPT FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ÃAS YOU CAN SEE 57 APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOMES AND THE COMMERCIAL USE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN THE COMMERCIAL ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DOES THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. STATEMENT THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SOME INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS TO AND THROUGH ALLEN ROAD AND TINY TOWN.
ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 34?
>> THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF THE LONG FAMILY AND PLANNING COMMISSION Z 5121 THIS IS .32 ACRES CURRENTLY REQUESTING TO GO TO SEE TO AND PROPERTY FRONTS THE SOUTH FRONTAGE EAST OF THE GOLF CLUB AND THE INTERSECTION CITY WARD NUMBER SEVEN AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT APPEARS TO BE IN OFFICE WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS FOR EXTENSION OF THE SONY CLASSIFICATIONS CONSISTENT WITH LAND-USE PLANS AND TO APPEAL TO A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY NEXT STOPROPERT ON THE LEFT AND THERE WERE NO DEPARTMENT COMMENTS OR CONCERNS EXCEPT FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WITH THE CAPACITY OF PARKS. [INDISCERNIBLE] THE HISTORICAL ESTIMATE WOULD BE THREE UNITS AND IF IT WERE REDEVELOPED AS A FAMILY PROPERTY STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND THE CONSISTENT LAND-USE PLAN AND GENERAL GOODS AND SERVICES MAKING IT RESIDENTIAL AND THIS SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL IS AN EXTENSION TO THE NORTHWEST AT ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
ISSUES AND >> IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WAS FAMILY ROBINSON HOUSE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 4035? WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 9 MR. TYNDALL.
>> THIS IS A PLANNING COMMISSION CASE 2021 THE APPLICANT THIS IS 12.67 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED C5 ARE ONE REQUESTING TO GO TO C2. SOMETIMES WE BRING IN SOME
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OTHER MAPS THIS IS A TOPOGRAPHY MAP SHE CAN SEE.IT'S HARD TO GET BACK THERE AND VISUALIZE IT AND IT DOES HAVE A STUB STREET TO THE SOUTH WHERE IT SPLITS AT THE ENTRANCE AND THEY MAY USE ANY COMBINATION OF THOSE FOR ACCESS TO THE SITE AS YOU CAN SEE A SMALL PORTION IS CURRENTLY ZONED C5 IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION COUNCIL WARD NUMBER TWO IT'S A WOODED TRACK THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE THAT ALLOWS FOR FUTURE MIXED-USE AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND IT PROVIDES A BUFFER BETWEEN THE ARTERIAL ZONING AND INTENDED ACCESS IS FROM 1445 THIS IS THE STUB ROAD I SPOKE ABOUT IT'S OFF OF BELAIR BOULEVARD THIS IS THE ENTRANCE THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET THE PROPERTY IS BEHIND THIS AND THIS IS A WOODED TRACK AND THE PHARMACY TO THE LEFT AT THE NEXT INTERSECTION AND WE ALL KIND OF KNOW WHAT FORT CAMPBELL LOOKS LIKE UP THERE.
THE TRAFFIC EXCESS MEANT WAS SUBMITTED AND THERE IS A BLUE LINE STREAM AND THE TOPOGRAPHY MAP AND HUNDRED 52 UNISYS DOESN'T TAKE TOPOGRAPHY INTO ACCOUNT WHICH MAY LIMIT THAT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DISAPPROVAL AND I WOULD NOTE ON THE AGENDA THAT SAYS APPROVAL BUT THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND IT DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY AND LACK OF VISIBILITY ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE HOWEVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
>> THANK YOU MR. TYNDALL HOME OF THE BULLDOGS.
WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 10 MR. TYNDALL.
>> PLANNING COMMISSION Z 53 2021 APPLICATION OF PRESTON LANGFORD IS THE AGENT THIS IS 1.69 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED TO GO TO C2 IT IS AN EXTENSION TO THE NORTH AND WEST THE TRACK IS EAST OF THE BOULEVARD WEST OF ROANOKE ROAD AND WESTVIEW ROAD THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO ATTACH THE ADJOINING PROPERTY AND TO MAKE THE LANDLOCKED PARCEL USABLE.
AS YOU REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO THE LARGER BLOCK TO THE NORTHWEST WAS THE APPLICANT HERE DID NOT OWN IT AT THE TIME AND IT WAS FOLDED INTO THE MASTER PROJECT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ON THIS PARCEL YET AND IT'S PRETTY FAR BACK THERE RECENTLY CLEARED PROPERTY ACROSS FROM THE BOWLING ALLEY UP THERE AND THE TREE LINE THIS IS ROANOKE BEHIND IT.
COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILITY. STREET DEPARTMENT ASKED FOR A TRIP GENERATION REPORT AND REFERENCE TO THE PREVIOUS STUDY AND THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS EXCEPT FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WITH THE ROSSI SYSTEM HISTORICAL ESTIMATE WOULD BE 20 UNITS AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND ZONING AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GENERAL GOODS AND SERVICES AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THOSE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REQUESTS AN EXTENSION TO THE NORTHWEST AND INFRASTRUCTURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS Ã
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>> >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION CAN YOU REFRESH OURMEMORIES ?
>> IT IS AN OLDER ZONE IT'S OFFICE ONLY SO TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE ÃIT DOES NOT ALLOW FORMAL ÃBUT IT USED TO AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN A LOT THAT'S THE REQUEST HERE.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS ATTACHED TO THAT LAND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THEY WERE FREAKING OUT WHEN THEY CLEARED IT.
SO I GUESS JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN IDEA THE FOLKS OVER HERE IN VIRGINIA HILLS IF YOU LOOK AT BRISTOL COURT AND I GUESS THIS IS TO DEVELOPERS, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THIS YOU CAN I WENT DOWN AND I WALK THROUGH THE BACKYARD AND I SAW THE FLOODING AND I SAW THE DISASTER THAT THEY LEFT BEHIND WILL MAKE CLEAR THAT LAND SO I NOW I'M GOING TO GET EMAILS AND I ASSUME YOU WILL JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA BUT THESE PEOPLE BACK IN HERE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY ARE SEEING AND SINCE I HAD THE TIME TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND GO THROUGH THEIR BACKYARDS I THOUGHT IT WOULD JUST THROW THAT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES AND DEVELOPERS IF YOU CAN LEAVE A TREE LINE LEAVE A TREE LINE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING UPSET ABOUT LOSING THEIR SCENERY OR WHATNOT EVEN IF IT WAS JUST A TREE LINE BECAUSE IT LOOK LIKE SCORCHED EARTH WHEN I WENT OVER THERE AND I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU AT THE BRISTOL COURT AREA IS THEY DIDN'T WANT A ROAD TO GO THROUGH THERE AND I SEE THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF CONNECTIVITY THERE DO YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS FOR THAT?
>> I DON'T SEE A CONCEPT PLAN.
>> IS THAT GOING ALONG WITH THE PLANTING TO NEXT YEAR?
>> THANK YOU ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 37? ITEM 11 ORDINANCE 3820 21 2022.
>> C 54 APPLICATION AT JOEL AND SHIRLEY PLUMMER AND THE AGENT IS CHRIS BATT ÃBLACKWELL THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OLD RUSSELLVILLE PIKES HICKORY TRACED INTERSECTION CITY COUNCIL NUMBER 12 IT'S A RELATIVELY LEVEL LOT SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE AND TREES AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS THE ORDINANCE AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND AS A SIDEBAR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFTEN USES OUR SIX OR A VERY SIMILAR DENSITY AND A SMALL LOT INDIVIDUAL OWNED PROPERTIES AND SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURES HERE IS OLD RUSSELLVILLE PIKE AND LOOKING FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO THE PROPERTY ONE OF THE ADJACENT USES CURRENT HOUSING TREES ON THE PROPERTY ANOTHER VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT AND THIS WILL BE THE PROPERTY NO DEPARTMENT COMMENTS OR CONCERNS SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED AND COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM HISTORICAL ESTIMATES WILL BE 41 UNITS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THOSE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND THE DISTRICT IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT ABUSES AND TRANSIT AND RETAIL AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ARE IDENTIFIED
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>> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 38? SEEING THAT WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 12 MR. TYNDALL.
>> APPLICATION OF POWERS AND 1.03 ACRES AND IT IS AN EXTENSION THEY ARE ASKING TO CLEAN IT UP ON THE SAME PROPERTY THIS IS CITY WARD NUMBER SIX THE PROPERTIES ON RICHARDSON STREET ACROSS THE AVENUE INTERSECTION PROPERTY IS THERE ON THE LEFT AND LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AND LOOKING BACK ACROSS THE PROPERTIES AND THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET OR NEXT-DOOR NO COMMENTS OR CONCERNS EXCEPT FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM REGARDING THE CAPACITY LISTED.
HISTORICAL MINUTES 12 UNITS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ZONING IS CONSISTENT AND REQUESTS AN EXTENSION OF THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT BRINGING THE ENTIRE TRACT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED THEY RECOMMEND
APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 39?
>> >> NO ONE ASKED TO SPEAK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS CASE.
>> ANY OTHER COUNCILPERSON HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 13 ORDINANCE 40 21 22.
>> SANDRA ASSUMES THE AGENT IS BRIAN BRYANT 2.5 LET ME SKIP A PAGE WE DEFERRED THAT CASE AND SEE 5720 21 APPLICATION WAYNE WILKINSON AND CURRENTLY ZONED REQUESTING TO GO TO SEE TO AND PROPERTY FRONTS 300 FEET EAST OF TINY TOWN ROAD OR HERITAGE POINT DRIVE INTERSECTIONS AND IT'S A RELATIVELY LEVEL TRACK THAT IS WOODED AND THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT. THE CHARGES ADJACENT TO THIS BEHIND THAT AND HERITAGE POINT NEXT-DOOR AND YOU EXPECT SOMETHING SIMILAR ON THIS PROPERTY AND IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM THE DEPARTMENT AND OFF-SITE WATER AND SEWER AND TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE STREET DEPARTMENT OFF-SITE DRAINAGE UPGRADES COULD BE REQUIRED AND HISTORICAL ESTIMATES WOULD BE 179 UNITS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND THEY PRESENT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GOODS AND SERVICES MIXED-USE RESIDENTIAL THAT SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED PROPOSED DISTRICT IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER IN THE AREA AND IT SERVES THE SITE OR NO ADVERSE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 40? SEEING THEN AND HEARING AND WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 14 PLANNING COMMISSION CASE NUMBER Z 58 2021 BRENDA BAKER, DEBORAH WHITLOCK, FERGUSON BELL, AN AGENT OF LANDMARK PARTNERSHIP AGENT 15.29 ACRES REQUESTING TO GO TO OUR FOR THIS IS NOT AN
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EXTENSION OF THE PROPERTIES 300 FEET SOUTH OF BELL ROAD INTERSECTION IT WOULD BE THE WHITFIELD ROAD INTERSECTION TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY COUNSEL WARD NUMBER NINE IT'S A WOODED TRACK AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND AND A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN GROWING OVER THE PAST DECADE AND PROPERTY IS ON THE LEFT AND THE PROPERTY ENCOMPASSES THIS CORNER THERE IS A CURRENT HOUSE ON IT I AM SURE THE STATUS OF THAT AND THIS IN THE VICINITY DEPARTMENT COMMENTS OFF-SITE SEWER UPGRADES DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY LET ME CLARIFY THAT IT MEANS AS YOU APPROACH PHASE 2 WE WOULD MAKE SURE AT THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE WE ARE NOT PUTTING PARKING HOUSING PLAYGROUND WHERE WE HAVE TO SPEND EXTRA MONEY AND DURING THE DEVISE PHASE OF THIS PROJECT AND THEN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COMMENTS HISTORICAL ESTIMATES HUNDRED 83 UNITS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN AND HOUSING TYPES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNING THE SITE NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.>> ANY QUESTION FROM COUNSEL? WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 15 MR. TYNDALL.
>> Z 59 2021 APPLICATION AND THIS IS 3.08 ACRES AND IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION WE SEE OUR THREE AND OUR SIX AS SIMILAR DENSITIES AND ONE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY SMALLER HOUSE THE PROPERTY FRONTS THE USE OF THE LUCAS LANE INTERSECTION AND IT'S A RECTANGULAR WOODED TRACK THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO DEVELOP A FEW LOTS THIS IS DOWN NEAR THE END A COMPLETELY WOODED LOT IT'S ADJACENT TO THE CEMETERY AND BACK UP THE PROPERTY HERE IS ON THE RIGHT AND SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED AND THEY HAVE LOOKED FOR POTENTIAL ÃHISTORICAL ESTIMATES COULD BE 27 UNITS AND I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD APPROACH THAT ON THE BACK OF THESE PROPERTIES THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ARE
IDENTIFIED AND >> THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 42? SEEING A NON-WE ARE READY FOR ITEM 16.
>> THIS IS THE APPLICATION Z 60 2021 AND CURRENTLY ZONED REQUESTING TO GO TO OUR SIX NOT AN EXTENSION YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME SMALL POCKETS FROM THIS PROPERTY THIS IS AN COUNSEL WARD NUMBER SIX THE PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES AND IT'S FOR REDEVELOPMENT FOR OTHER SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES HERE ARE THE TWO HOMES IN QUESTION
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COMMENTS AND CONCERNS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COMMENTS AND THIS DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE POTENTIAL OF THE UNITS STAYING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THOSE ARE TO WARRANT TEARDOWN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THROUGH A CONSISTENT LAND USE PLAN IT IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE INCLUDING SIDEWALK WILL BE REQUIRED HAD NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE THEY ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.>> ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 43? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE WE ARE READY FOR ORDINANCE 4420 2122. MR. TYNDALL.SUE MET THIS IS CASE Z 61 2020 LINDA GRISWOLD AND 2.4 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED REQUESTING TO GO TO OUR FOUR IT'S NOT AN EXTENSION OF THESE CLASSIFICATIONS AND TURNER LANE INTERSECTION AND A ZONE REQUEST IS GOING TO BRING THE CURRENT ZONE INTO COMPLIANCE IT CONTAINS MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS BACK IN THE DAY YOU COULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE STRUCTURE AS OF 2010 WE ONLY ALLOWED ONE STRUCTURE AND THIS HAS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THE INTENT IS TO ZONE OUT THESE TRIBE FLEXES SUBDIVIDE THE EXISTING HOME FROM THESE AND POTENTIALLY DEVELOP THE REST OF THE PORT PARCEL IT'S ABOUT BRINGING IT INTO COMPLIANCE THIS IS AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE PROPERTY WE SAW IT EARLIER THERE ARE THE TWO TRIPLEX IS IN QUESTION LOOKING BACK UP FROM THE PROPERTY THERE ARE NO DEPARTMENT COMMENTS OR CONCERNS AGAIN THEY MENTIONED ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT HISTORICAL ESTIMATES WILL BE 28 THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE 6 TO 8 UNITS THAT ARE OUT THERE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR ANY ADOPTED USE PLAN THE SPRINGS IT INTO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING CLASSIFICATION AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND ÃRECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> SEEING NONE 17 ITEMS 48 MINUTES.
MR. TUNSTALL THAT'S A RECORD. CONGRATULATIONS.
[4) CONSENT AGENDA]
>> CONGRATULATIONS. WE ARE READY FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA PLEASE REVIEW THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> ALL ITEMS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND NONCONTROVERSIAL AND A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MAY BE REQUESTING IT CAN BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION UNDER THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE REPORT ORDINANCE 16 2021 2010 A TWO SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE RELEVANT TO BREWERIES, MICROBREWERIES AND BREWPUBS.
ORDINANCE 19 Ã2021 2022 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF HOMEBUILDERS INCORPORATED FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MADISON STREET AND TANGLEWOOD DRIVE FOR THE R1 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 20 2122 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION FOR OLYMPUS LLC WILLIAM HARRIS
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AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF DARNALL PLACE AND CEDARCREST DRIVE FROM OUR 33 FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO OUR FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND 2120 2122 SECOND READING MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF TDK PROPERTIES AND ZONE CHANGE AT THE SOUTHERN TERMINUS OF RUFUS JOHNSON ROAD AND THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT THE HIGHWAY AND ARTERIAL DISTRICT AND ORDINANCE 22 20 2122 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION WILLIE WALKER AND ÃHOLDINGS LLC AND THE AGENT FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ÃDRIVE FROM AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO OUR SIX SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND ARE TO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 2320 2122 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF WILLIAM ÃFOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NEEDMORE ROAD AND EAST BOY SCOUT ROAD FROM AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO R1 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ORDINANCE 2420 2122 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE THE MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF JOHNNY PIPER FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY AT SOUTHERN FRONTAGE AND EAST OF ÃFROM OUR THREE THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO OUR SIX SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ORDINANCE 2620 2122 SECOND READING. AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE A MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF TRENT GALLIVAN AND FAIRVIEW LANE AND SINGLE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND SINGLE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND RESOLUTION 1920 2122 APPROVING APPOINTMENTS TO THE CLERKS OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD THE COMMON DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FAIR HOUSING BOARD THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION AND PARKING COMMISSION AND ADOPTION OF MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 7 GRADE>> COUNCILMEMBER EVANS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THE APPOINTMENT SORRY I SHOULD HAVE GOT MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER. THE MAIN THING I AM UPSET ABOUT IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE FAIR HOUSING BOARD TOGETHER INTO AN AND A HALF WEEKS WHICH WE NEEDED TO GET DONE I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THE HRC IT TOOK THREE MONTHS TO REAPPOINT THE SAME PERSON WHO FAILED THE HRC THAT'S HURTFUL AND DISAPPOINTING TO ME THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW I CAN
NOMINATE OTHER PEOPLE >> WE WILL LET YOU TAKE IT UP WITH MR. BECKER.
>> I CAN'T MAKE ANY NOMINATION?
>> YOU CAN GET TO THE MICROPHONE.
>> SOME THINGS THE COUNCIL CAN APPOINT OR OFFER SOME THINGS THEY JUST HAVE TO VOTE UP AND DOWN WHOEVER THEY SELECT AND I JUST DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THE COMMISSION ORDINANCE SAYS SECTION 1.5 Ã 1602 CITY CODE THE COMMISSION
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SHALL BE PROPOSED OF Ã11 TOTAL VOTING MEMBERS AND 10 VOTING MEMBERS SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND IN ADDITION TO THE VOTING MEMBERS THE MAYOR SHALL ALSO APPOINT AS A VOTING MEMBER ONE MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL THE MAYOR OF THE CITY AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES SHALL SERVE AS NONVOTING EX OFFICIO MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RELATIONS.SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING
>> EVEN BEING THE APPOINTED MEMBER NEVERMIND.
I SAID EVEN BEING THE APPOINTED MEMBER OF THE HRC?
>> I JUST CARE REALLY DEEPLY ABOUT THE HRC AND THE MISSION AND IT'S A DISSERVICE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE PASSION.
>> IT SAID THE MAYOR SHALL ALSO APPOINT AS A VOTING MEMBER AND THAT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL.
IT'S TOTALLY AT THE DISCRETION OF Ã
>> HOW WOULD I BE ABLE TO VOICE MY OPINION ON WHO COULD BE A
BETTER LEGAL Ã >> WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT
NOW. >> OR TALK ABOUT IT ON THURSDAY
MY SUGGESTION FOR THE HRC, MARGARET THOMPSON LAURA
CHILDERS AND APRIL Ã >> CAN YOU GIVE ME THOSE NAMES AGAIN?
>> THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
COUNCILPERSON EVANS, DID YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? OKAY THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ALAN YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. >> I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON YOU AND WE KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE HRC AND GETTING THINGS APPROVED THAT WOULD BETTER THE DIVERSITY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MR. BAKER DO WE PULL THIS RESOLUTION OFF OF THE AGENDA? ARE WE ABLE TO SEPARATED IN ANY WAY? CAN YOU TELL US HOW WE NEED TO DO THAT?
>> THIS IS A RESOLUTION, A STANDALONE RESOLUTION AND SO IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON SEPARATELY YOU JUST ASK FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA AFTER THE CLERK READS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE RESOLUTION 19 BE APPALLED AND YOU COULD EVEN SAY I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU COULD JUST Ã BUT I AM NOT SURE THAT'S LEGAL BECAUSE ALL OF THESE APPOINTMENTS ARE PART OF RESOLUTION 19 SO THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS YOU PULL IT SAY I WANT TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION AND GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON ALL
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THE APPOINTMENTS OF RESOLUTION 19 EXCEPT THE HUMAN RESOLUTION AND YOU TAKE A VOTE ON THAT AND LET'S ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT NO TROUBLE AND IT PASSES AND HE WOULD TAKE UP THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION AND THE VOTE WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE A YES OR NO UP OR DOWN VOTE AND YOU COULD DIVIDE THE QUESTION AGAIN IF THERE IS OPPOSITION TO MISS VELASQUEZ AND YOU COULD VOTE ONTHEM INDIVIDUALLY >> YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OFFER A NEW NAME TO SUBSTITUTE.
>> I WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR CITY COUNCIL AT THIS POINT TO LOOK INTO THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMITMENT WE HAVE APPROVED A BUDGET AND WE WANT SOMEBODY IN THERE WHO WAS GOING TO USE THAT BUDGET EFFECTIVELY AND ASSURE AND THEY ARE BEING DISPARAGING AND I THINK AT THIS POINT AS WE HAVE SEEN THE YEAR GO THROUGH THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT AS A CITY SO THAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THAT AND CONSIDER IF THIS WAS THE SAME FROM LAST YEAR. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> AT THE RISK OF MAKING ENEMIES AT MY FIRST MEETING I WANT TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW ANYBODY ELSE WATCHING BUT I INTEND TO ASK THAT ÃTHE REZONING REQUEST BE HELD FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
>> WHICH ITEM NUMBER? ORDINANCE 19 ITEM NUMBER TWO.
>> I AGREE I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT FELLOW PEERS ON THE COUNCIL FEEL THE SAME WAY I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS I AM JUST CURIOUS OF THE SELECTION PROCESS I UNDERSTAND IT'S A MAYOR APPOINTED POSITION SOMETIMES WE SEE BO COME IN AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEY ARE SPECIAL AGENTS AND I KNOW IN THE PAST I HAVE ASKED FOR SPECIFIC SHEETS OR JUST SO THE COUNCIL CAN GET TO KNOW THESE FOLKS AND I HAVE NEVER, I ATTEMPTED TO REACH OUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MRS. VASQUEZ OR THE PERSON, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS A HISPANIC PASTOR AND HE IS A FACEBOOK HACKER FOR ALL I KNOW, I NEVER SAW HIM OR MET HIM, THE MAYOR DID SEND ME SOME INFORMATION ON HIM AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S KIND OF ON OUR TIME AND ON OUR WATCH TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE LEADERS WHO ARE GOING TO TAKE OWNERSHIP AND IF THEY ARE NOT THERE OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE WAITING IN THE WINGS TO APPROVE THEIR LEADERSHIP AS WELL AND SO I JUST THINK THAT BETWEEN THE OTHER CANDIDATES THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT AND BOARDS ÃWARDS 105 WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF FOLKS AND BEFORE I GOT ON THE COUNCIL I APPLIED TO SIT ON SOME OF THE CITY COMMITTEES AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME FOLLOW-THROUGH AND SOME FOLLOW-UP TO MAKE SURE WE PUT THE RIGHT FOLKS IN THE RIGHT SEATS AT THE RIGHT TIME AND THIS VARIOUS COMMITTEE IS MOVING FORWARD AND I DO NOT PASTOR LOCKET A GOOD UPSTANDING PERSON AND I MET MRS. JONES SEVEN SORT OF HIT OR MISS SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO BRING THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY PREVIOUS SPEAKERS TO OUR ATTENTION SO WE HAVE SOME TRANSPARENCY AND SOME ACCOUNTABILITY TO CONSTITUENTS I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.
>> AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD NO RISK ÃNO DISRESPECT TO YOU THERE ARE REASONS FOR MISS VASQUEZ TO RESIGN AND IT WAS ONLY SO MANY MONTHS AGO AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN CLARKSVILLE LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID THAT APPLIED FOR POSITIONS AND ARE INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE BOARD, IF YOU RESIGN THAT WE SHOULD MOVE ON AND GIVE SOMEONE ELSE AN OPPORTUNITY SO I DO
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SUPPORT THAT AND ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T GET TO SELECT THE NEXT PERSON I ALSO RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT AND AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF MISS MARGARET THOMPSON AND I DON'T KNOW THE SECOND PERSON THAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID BUT I KNOW THAT LORALEE CHILDERS WOULD BE A GREAT FIT AND OF COURSE I AM OKAY WITH WHATEVER IS DECIDED BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE ISSUES WE HAVE SEEN IN THE RECENT HISTORY WITH THE HRC. THANK YOU.>> ANYONE ELSE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?
>> I WILL BE THE ODDBALL I GUESS TYPICALLY I BELIEVE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DISRESPECTFUL THE CHARTER SAID THE MAYOR GETS TO MAKE CERTAIN APPOINTMENTS HE IS ELECTED BY ALL OF THE CITIES ALL OF THE CITIZENS IN OUR CITY AND I UNDERSTAND IF THERE IS SOMETHING FROM AN APPOINTMENT IF THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT HAS A WARRANT AGAINST THEM AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN THIS PERSON'S BACKGROUND AND THE MOMENT OF APPOINTMENT IT WAS FOUND OUT ABOUT MAYBE THEY COULD BRING IT UP TO THE MAYOR AND HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT THE MAYOR CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND BUT OTHER THAN I WOULD JUST RATHER HAVE SOMEONE THAT I KNOW OR SOMEBODY WHO BRINGS WITH, A CERTAIN PORTION IT'S THE DUTY OF THE MAYOR TO MAKE CERTAIN APPOINTMENTS FROM HIS OFFICE THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE COUNCIL ESPECIALLY IN THE CASE WHERE THESE APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE AND WE ONLY GET THE ABILITY TO VOTE THEM UP OR DOWN IF WE VOTED DOWN AS I UNDERSTAND FROM COUNSEL THE MAYOR GETS THE ABILITY TO GO AHEAD AND REAPPOINT AGAIN AFTER THAT HE'S NOT OBLIGATED TO POINT WHO WE WANT TO PUT IN THAT PLACE AND IT MIGHT BE WISE FOR THE MAYOR AND PERHAPS HE CAN REAPPOINT THE SAME THREE OVER AND OVER AND DO 1/32 BIO OF THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON AND BY VIRTUE OF THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT AND I'M SURE YOU WILL ALL DISAGREE AND THAT'S FINE. THANKS.
>> COUNCILPERSON ALAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COUNCILPERSON BUT WE DON'T HAVE A WARRANT OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PERSON WHO IS BEING APPOINTED TO THE HRC WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF RESIGNING NOT WORKING WITH THE HRC TO GET THINGS DONE WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF THIS PERSON TOWARDS THE END OF THE TERM COMPLETELY DEFUNCT THE HRC THAT'S NOT A PERSON THAT WE WANT BACK IN OUR HRC AS THE CHAIR? I DON'T THINK SO AND I UNDERSTAND AND THIS IS NO DISRESPECT I UNDERSTAND IT'S YOUR CHOICE BUT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO TAKE UNDER CONSIDERATION THAT WE SAW IT COMPLETELY FALL APART YOU TO THIS PERSON'S LEADERSHIP.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER I COULD NOT HAVE ARTICULATED IT ANY BETTER I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR BUT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
[5) FINANCE COMMITTEE]
>> ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? WE ARE READY FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
>> ITEM NUMBER ONE ORDINANCE 2720 21 FIRST READING AUTHORIZING A UTILITY AND INGRESS AND EGRESS EASEMENT TO THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS DOING BUSINESS AS AT&T TENNESSEE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHAT PHIL WROTE BOTH THE FINANCE AND TRANSPORTATION STREETS GARAGE COMMITTEES APPROVED THIS THIS IS EVOLVING THE ROAD PROJECTS THAT WE ARE DOING AND THIS IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE AT&T FIBER.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 27?WE ARE READY FOR ORDINANCE 32.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR ITEM NUMBER TWO ORDINANCE 32 20 2122 FIRST READING AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 803 HOWARD STREET FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED FOR APPROVAL OF THIS FINANCE
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COMMITTEE VOTED FOR APPROVAL OF THIS I AM PASSING AROUND EXHIBIT C. I HAVE MIGHT ÃI MIGHT NOT HAVE PASSED ENOUGH.THIS IS INVOLVING SOME PROPERTY WHERE THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVED NEXT DOOR BOUGHT THE LAND AND BUILT A HOME AND THEN BUILT A DRIVEWAY AND WHEN HE DID THAT HE ENDED UP PUTTING THE DRIVEWAY ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS BESIDE IT WHICH IS WHAT WE OWNED AND HE SAID HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NEXT TO 803 HOWARD STREET AND HE CONSTRUCTED A DRIVEWAY AND PORTIONS OF SIDEWALKS ON 803 HOWARD STREET AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION WAS FINISHED HE REALIZED THE PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY AND SIDEWALKS WERE A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY HE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY TO INFORM US OF WHAT HAPPENED AND ASK IF HE COULD BUY THE PROPERTY AND WE HAD AN APPRAISAL AND RATHER THAN ASKING HIM TO REMOVE THE DRIVEWAY AND SIDEWALK AT HIS EXPENSE INSTEAD WE ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY FOR 7300.
>> >> SO THE SIDEWALK IS THE ONLY ÃJUST THE DRIVEWAY.
>> IF YOU WILL LOOK ON THE SECOND PAGE YOU WILL SEE 803 IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR PAGE THE DRIVEWAY AND THE SIDEWALK OR ONTO THIS PROPERTY YOU WILL SEE THE ENTIRE RECTANGLE IS THE LOT AND HE WANTS TO PURCHASE THE ENTIRE LOT NOT JUST THE PORTION THAT HIS DRIVEWAY IS ON AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE FOR SOME TIME IT WAS TO OUR BEST BELIEF AND ACCIDENT SO HE WOULD PURCHASE ALL OF THAT WHICH WOULD MORE THAN SATISFY CITY AND COUNTY TAXES.
>> HANG ON THAT SHOULD BE IN THE APPRAISAL.
>> I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE HE STANDS.
>> LET'S GET THE SUMMARY. CAN WE GET THAT TO YOU? CAN WE GET THAT TO YOU?
>> THANK YOU. I WILL STATE THE APPRAISED VALUE IS WHAT WE ARE SELLING IT FOR THE 7300 WHICH IS HIGHER THAN WHAT THE TAX ASSESSOR HAS IT APPRAISED FOR $4845.
THE OPTION WOULD BE IF WE DID NOT SELL THEM THIS WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE HIM AT HIS OWN EXPENSE TO TEAR UP THE SIDEWALK, TEAR UP THE DRIVEWAY SO THIS PUTS IT BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS ALLOWS HIM TO NOT TAKE ON THAT EXPENSE AND THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE AND EVEN AT THAT TIME IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CHEAPER DUE TO THE FACT THAT LAND VALUES HAVE INCREASED IF THE PROPERTY IS 0.0 ACRES.
>> COUNCILPERSON ALAN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> SO HE WILL OWN FROM THIS CORNER TO THIS CORNER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING ORDINANCE 32? CHAIRPERSON I KNOW WE HAD AN ITEM THAT CAME THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE THAT'S INADVERTENTLY LISTED UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND COUNCILMEMBER HOLLOMAN SPONSORED ITEM 6 AND I WANT TO TAKE THAT UP AS AN OBJECTION SINCE IT CAME THROUGH THERE THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY.
>> OKAY ITEM NUMBER SIX ORDINANCE 3020 2122 FIRST READING THE OFFICIAL CODE SECTION 204 PRESENTING LEGISLATION AND DELIBERATION TO MAXIMIZE EFFICIENCY FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED FOR DISAPPROVAL OF THIS ITEM IT WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER HOLLOMAN.
>> SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS ADDS A FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR SPEAKING AND IT'S TO ENCOURAGE EFFICIENCY IN THE MEETINGS AND JUST SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE AND THIS IS JUST INCREASED EFFICIENCY.
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>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I THINK THE VOTING COMMITTEE WAS 2 AND 2 AND IT FAILED FOR LACK OF MAJORITY AND THE BIGGEST CONCERN WAS NOT THE LIMITS SPEAKING ON AN ITEM IT WAS SPEAKING TWICE ONE OF THE MEMBERS HAD A CONCERN ACTUALLY TWO OF THE MEMBERS HAD A CONCERN AND THE QUESTION CAME UP WHAT ABOUT IF WE HAVE A QUESTION AND I LOOKED IN THE RULES ON PAGE 388 AND 389 IS SAYS WHAT WE ARE UNDER CURRENTLY UNDER THE RULES IS A LIMIT OF TWICE BUT IT SAYS ASKING A QUESTION DOES NOT COUNT CURRENTLY AND MAKING A MOTION DOES NOT COUNT AS TIME AS LONG AS YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION. YOU ARE NOT MAKING A STATEMENT AND AT THE END HE PUT A QUESTION ATTACHED TO IT SO I WOULD SAY THAT AS LONG AS THIS PORTION OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT THE SPONSOR IS MAKING IF HE WOULD TAKE OUT THE AMOUNT OF TIMES WE WOULD STILL BE REVERTING BACK TO THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER THAT WAY IT ALLOWS FOR QUESTIONS I BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE OKAY IF WE JUST WENT WITH THE TIME LIMIT AND CURRENTLY WE COULD ONLY SPEAK TWICE AND ASKING QUESTIONS DOES NOT COUNT. ON THE MOTION TO APPEAL YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK ONCE.
>> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I LIKE THIS. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID AND I HAVE PREPARED AN AMENDMENT FOR AND I WISH I WOULD HAVE PRINTED IT OUT BUT USUALLY WE DO THAT AT THE VOTING AND I COULD TAKE OUT THE QUESTION PART AS WELL I CAN'T SHARE IT WITH YOU BECAUSE WE COULD EMAIL IT TO YOU AND IF YOU WANT TO PREPARE ONE I HAVE ONE PREPARED TO GIVE YOU A HEAD'S UP AND I LIKE THIS AND WE NEED TO BE MORE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER'S TIME AND MORE RESPECTFUL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS TIME AND ARE CITIZENS TIME AND PUTTING SOME LIMITATIONS MAKE SENSE AND BASICALLY I MADE IT LIKE A PREVIOUS SPEAKER WAS SAYING AND I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE CAN'T OFFER AMENDMENTS I DON'T THINK OFFERING AMENDMENTS, IT MAKES IT A NEW SEPARATE MOTION AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I PUT IN THAT MEMBERS FOR INSTANCE I SAID WILL BE ALLOTTED TWO TIMES SHE MAKES STATEMENTS OR ARGUMENTS ASKED QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENTS OFFERED SO I WILL BE SUBMITTING THAT NEXT WEEK OTHERWISE I DO SUPPORT THIS AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR. THANK YOU.
>> WHAT WAS STATED WAS CORRECT AND THE LACK OF MAJORITY EQUATES TO IT WAS JUST APPROVED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS IN REGARD TO HOW DOES IT WORK WHEN QUESTIONS ARE ASKED AS FAR AS BY SOMEBODY SPEAKING AND SOMEBODY ELSE ANSWERS THE QUESTION IS THAT GOING TO BE AS ONE OF THE TWO TIMES AND THAT CREATED QUESTIONS EVEN WITH ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER AND MR. BAKER AS WELL AND THAT BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THE FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT WILL SOMEBODY ASK A QUESTION THE CITY CLERK IS GOING TO HAVE TO STOP THE TIME LIMIT FOR THE OTHER PERSON TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OR SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAS TO COME UP TO SPEAK AND GO BACK AND FORTH AND WHAT THEY ARE HAVING TO TRY AND GU AND KEEP UP WITH THE VOTES AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO ADD IN FIVE MINUTES I'VE GOT TO STOP AND KEEP UP WITH SOMEONE AND WHAT WE SHOULD GU IS WE HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR OURSELVES AND THAT INCLUDES MYSELF WE NEED TO TRY TO LIMIT OURSELVES AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF US PUTTING A HARD TIME LIMIT OF FIVE MINUTES
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ON THIS AND I KNOW I CAN SPEAK FOR A FELLOW MEMBER AND THE CONCERNS WERE INVOLVING THE FACT WITH THE DISCUSSIONS ANYWAY WE CAN'T RISK VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE LAW OR THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS ITEMS AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY RESPECT THE SPONSOR OF THIS ORDINANCE I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS MYSELF THANK YOU.>> COUNCILPERSON ALAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I APPRECIATE THIS ORDINANCE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS FOR THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION SO I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD NOT APPLY TO EXECUTIVE SESSION WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSING IT, ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE CITY AND LEADERS OF THE AGENCIES SO I THINK OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION, TO PUT IT ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THE REGULAR SESSION I UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO THE REGULAR SESSION WE DO GO BACK AND FORTH BUT OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION IS FOR DISCUSSION.
WE WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY SUGGESTION THIS IS NOT APPLY TO EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS WILL BE LIKE OUR COMMITTEE, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. THANK YOU.
>> MR. BAKER. IF YOU WILL TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
>> ALREADY IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING COUNCILMEMBER HOLLOMAN HAS ASKED ME TO DRAFT AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION ONE Ã204 THAT'S ONLY SAYING THIS BEING CHANGED AND THE ALPHANUMERIC PARAGRAPH NUMBERING JUST TO CLEAN SOME STUFF UP BECAUSE THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW LOTS DON'T HAVE ALPHANUMERIC DESIGNATED AND THE ONLY REAL SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES IF YOU FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER INCLUDING THE MAYOR AND WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO INSERT THEIR UNLESS THERE IS A CONSENSUS, WE CAN DO IT NEXT WEEK AND A SOMEONE ON THE COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT THIS SHOULD APPLY TO EXECUTIVE SESSION YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEBATE THAT AND VOTE IT AND WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS DURING REGULAR OR SPECIAL CALL VOTING SESSIONS YOU PICK UP SHALL BE LIMITED TO AND WE NEED TO STRIKE THE WORK, BECAUSE YOU ARE CORRECT COMMENTS ARE EXCLUDED UNDER ROBERTS RULES YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN RULES CONTRARY TO ROBERT RULES MAKE STATEMENTS OR ARGUMENTS AND WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AN AMENDMENT AND WE LOOK AT BOTH OF THEM AND HERE IS THE BEST WORDSMITHING AND WE WOULD STRIKE THE WORDS OR ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN THE REST OF IT WOULD STAY THE SAME AND WE WOULD ADD A SENTENCE AT THE BOTTOM THAT WAS SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF ASKING QUESTIONS MEMBERS ASKING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERING MEMBERS QUESTIONS SHALL NOT APPLY THIS SUBSECTION SHALL NOT APPLY THE TIME LIMIT SHALL NOT APPLY TO MEMBERS ASKING QUESTIONS OR ANSWERING MEMBERS QUESTIONS AND THE REASON WHY IT WAS AN EXCELLENT POINT AND YOU COULD STYMIE A MEMBERS TIME AND THEY COULD EAT INTO THEIR TIME BY ASKING A LONG-WINDED QUESTION AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE APPLICABLE TO THEM THAT'S NOT FAIR OBVIOUSLY AND EVEN THOUGH
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I SAY ASKING IT IS NOT GOING TO COUNT TO THE OTHER MEMBERS TIME SIMPLY ASKING THE QUESTION MAY CALL FOR SUCH A LONG ANSWER THAT THEY CAN'T SAY WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY IT'S A GOOD POINT AND IS CONSISTENT WITH ROBERTS RULES AS IT STANDS NOW THE QUESTIONS OF YOU ARE ASKING THEM OR ANSWERING THEM SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM ANY TIME LIMIT IF YOU WANT TO PASS THIS TIME LIMIT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.>> COUNCILMEMBER RICHMAN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS TRYING TO PERSONALLY THINK BEING A VERBOSE SPEAKER I AM WORKING ON BREVITY AND THIS IS A MATTER OF GROWING AS LEADERS AND LEGISLATE LEADERSHIP AND I WILL BRING IT UP AGAIN THE IDEA OF TRAINING FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS FALLS UNDER A COMMUNICATION SEMINAR IN MY ESTIMATION NOT AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION BECAUSE NOW WE ARE STARTING TO GET INTO, I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER TRYING TO WARN THE CITY CLERK TO PUT UP A TIMER AND I THINK THE TIMES SOMEONE SPOKE OVER FIVE MINUTES THOSE OF THE OUTLIERS I DON'T THINK IT'S EVERY MEETING WE SIT APPEAR GO ON AND ON ABOUT EACH SPEAKER GOING ON FOR FIVE MINUTES OR MORE AND THOSE MEETINGS ARE FEWER THAN THE MAJORITY AND SO FOR BACK OF LITERATURE OF THE LAW AROUND THAT IS A LITTLE FAR-REACHING SO I WILL BE VOTING THIS DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE ROBERTS RULES AND I THINK THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, WHY WE BRING IT UP TO AN EXECUTIVE AND WHEN WE USE THIS ROLE I THINK THAT'S THE ART OF WAR WE USE LAWS AND RULES AND IT'S MOST EFFECTIVE FOR THE PERSON WHO CREATED THE RULE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND MR. BAKER'S POINT THE HUMANITY OF PEOPLE AND USED THINGS AGAINST THE PURPOSE IT WAS INTENDED THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY I HOPE THAT WAS UNDER FIVE MINUTES.
>> CURRENTLY THERE IS A TIME LIMIT
>> I AM FOR THIS ORDINANCE IN THE TIME JUST CHANGING THE TIME FROM 10 MINUTES TO FIVE MINUTES CURRENTLY I DON'T THINK THAT THE CLERK OR THE CHAIR LOOKS AT THE CLOCK FOR 10 MINUTES EVIDENTLY I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS BUT I THINK I'M JUST WANTING TO CHANGE FROM THE TENANT TO THE FIVE AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT YOU CAN SPEAK IS CURRENTLY TWO AND IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT DOES NOT COUNT WE HAVE TO WORD FOR THAT AND CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE A TIME LIMIT.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE WAY IT'S WORDED, NO MORE THAN TWO TYPES FIVE MINUTES EACH TIME AND THE INTRODUCTION SHOULD COUNT AS ONE TIME SO UNDER ROBERTS RULES OF SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE JUST READ A MINUTE AGO AND THE THINKING ON THAT WAS WHEN A SPONSOR LEGISLATION AFTER THEY MAKE A MOTION THERE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN THE RIGHT TO SPEAK FIRST AND IT MAY BE THAT INITIAL STATEMENT SHOULD NOT COUNT AS ONE OF THEIR SPEAKING TIMES AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT UNDER OUR CITY CODE AND CHARGER TO MAKE YOUR OWN RULES
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CONSISTENT WITH ROBERT RULES IF YOU WANT TO AND WE WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WHEN THERE IS A MAIN MOTION EVERYBODY GETS TO SPEAK TWICE FIVE MINUTES EACH SOMEONE MAKES THAT AMENDMENTS IT COULD BE TOTALLY CHANGING THE MAIN MOTION SUBSTANTIALLY SO YOU SHOULD GET ANOTHER TWO TIMES FOR FIVE MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK EVEN IF YOU HAVE SPOKEN TWICE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MAIN MOTION AND TWO MORE TIMES AND ALSO PROCEDURAL MOTIONS ALL SEPARATE THINGS IT'S CONCEIVABLE YOU COULD GET MULTIPLE TO TIME FIVE MINUTE Ã>> COUNCILMEMBER ÃYOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THIS IS GOING BACK TO WHEN MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBER STATED ABOUT THIS BEING THE DISCUSSION TIME AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DISCUSS IT AS MUCH AND THAT'S A VALID POINT ONE THING YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT THERE ARE TIMES THAT BRAND-NEW AMENDMENTS ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD AND IF WE ARE LIMITING WHAT HER DISCUSSION TIME IS THIS IS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T GET TO LOOK AT A WEEK AGO WE JUST GOT ON THE FLY THAT NIGHT AND IF WE DO NEED TO HAVE IT INCREASE DISCUSSION THAT IT COULD BE A COMPLEX ITEM AND AS I SAID BEFORE THAT SOMETHING WE RECOGNIZED FOR OURSELVES AND WE HAVE A POINT OF INFORMATION
ABOUT THAT >> COUNCILPERSON ALAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THE PREVIOUS COUNCILPERSON SAID AFTER THE NEW AMENDMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT SPECIAL SESSIONS AND THUS THE FIRST TIME WE ARE SEEING VOTING ON IT AND I AM TORN WITH THIS AND I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT IT AND SAY NO LET'S NOT LIMIT THE DISCUSSION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
>> COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THIS ORDINANCE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN DOES NOT APPLY TO EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IT LITERALLY SAYS DURING REGULAR VOTING SESSIONS IT SPECIFIES THAT I WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIMES DISCUSSING THAT AND IS IN THERE AND ALSO WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING IS COVERED BY ROBERTS RULES AND I WANT TO THROW THOSE THINGS OUT THERE THAT'S MY LAST TIME. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON Ã >> THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR INFORMAL SESSION AND IF YOU MAKE AN AMENDMENT AND YOU USED YOUR TWO TIMES TO SPEAK AND ON THE AMENDMENT THAT DOES NOT COUNT YOU CAN SPEAK TWO MORE TIMES ON THAT AMENDMENT AND YOU CAN KEEP GOING AND LET'S DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN'T USE THEM ON THE AMENDMENTS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLOMAN, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR.
>> IS THIS A PERFECT ORDINANCE, IF YOU WANT AN AMENDMENT AS WELL BE MY GUEST AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO MAXIMIZE THE EFFICIENCY AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT TALKING A REALLY LONG TIME SOCIETY AS A WHOLE, TICK-TOCK, AGAINST AND SECOND VIDEOS AND GRUB HUB AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING SATISFIED Ã INSTANTLY AND I WANT TO HEAR A SONG, THERE IT IS.
PEOPLE'S ATTENTION SPAN OVER TIME THIS IS GETTING LESS AND LESS AND THE LONGER YOU TALK THE LESS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PAYING ATTENTION SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL AND I SAY IT ONE MINUTE AND FACTUAL IS STRAIGHT TO THE POINT AND DANCE AROUND AND TALK AROUND AND THAT MIGHT NOT CARRY
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AS MUCH WEIGHT AND THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS AS I UNDERSTAND IF YOU NEED TO AMENDED. CMH IS ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING ORDINANCE 30.[7) HOUSING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]
>> THE GAS AND WATER COMMITTEE REPORT.
>> WE WILL HAVE A FULL REPORT THURSDAY.
>> HOUSING DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE RESOLUTION 2620 2122 AUTHORIZING THE NAME CHANGE FROM MORE DEVELOPMENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY SERVICES.AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT OUR MEETING AND I KNOW THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE GOING TO SEND A NAME CHANGE AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE RECEIVED ANY IF THIS IS THE NAME OF THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AT WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION.
>> IS STILL ON HERE. HE IS NODDING HIS HEAD.
>> THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION WE HAVE SOME TRANSITIONS GOING ON. THIS NAME CHANGE CAN ONLY BE DONE BY ORDINANCE CITY CODE SECTION CHAPTER 10 SECTION ONE- 1011 IT'S AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHED THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CHANGE THE NAME IS BY ORDINANCE SO HE WILL NEED TO EITHER ÃPOSTPONED THIS NEXT WEEK WE CAN AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO TURN IT INTO AN ORDINANCE SO THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE POSTPONED.
>> THANK YOU MR. BAKER I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE
>> WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION COUNCILPERSON ALAN
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE NAME I WAS NOT AT THE MEETING I SHOULD HAVE BID BUT I WAS ON COVID QUARANTINE. THE QUESTION IS HOW CONFUSED WILL IT GET FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES HOW IT WILL GET WITH OUR DHS IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE GO GET FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. HOW CONFUSING WILL IT GET?
>> NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY SERVICES.HOW CONFUSING WILL THAT GET? THUS JUST MY QUESTION.
>> IS PRETTY CONFUSING NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOUSING AUTHORITY SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY AROUND ELIMINATING CONFUSION WE JUST HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB.
CIVIC I THINK IT WILL INCREASE THE COST FOR EBT AND ÃTHANK YOU. CIVIC COUNCILPERSON SMITH.
>> THINKING ABOUT THE NAME CHANGE THE URBAN AND RESIDENTIAL SERVICES AND I WAS LOOKING AT URBAN AND ALSO THEY HAVE A LOW INCOME SO THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING WE DO AND
>> THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS 2721 21 2022 ÃTWO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 2022 AND ACTION PLAN 2020 2024 CONSOLIDATE ÃANY
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QUESTIONS OF CHAIRPERSON SMITH? SEEING NONE[8) PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE]
>> THIS CONCLUDES Ã >> PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE.
[9) PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]
>> THANK YOU WE ARE READY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE THANK YOU FIRST UP IS ORDINANCE 2820 21 2022 FIRST READING AMENDING THE CODE PERTAINING TO THE HOURS OF CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, BEER AND WINE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND TCA 57-4 THE PUBLIC SAFETY APPROVED IT AND THE TIME THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE ALCOHOL AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OUTLINED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
>> I BELIEVE YOU WERE THE SPONSOR.
>> AND WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE LEGAL LANGUAGE FOR THIS ORDINANCE AND WE WILL POTENTIALLY HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD NEXT WEEK SO I WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW BEFORE WE GOT INTO DEEP DISCUSSION WE WOULD NEED TO HOLD IT FOR NEXT WEEK.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR AND NUMBER TWO ORDINANCE 29 2021 2022 THE INITIAL CODE OF CLARKSVILLE TITLE FOR BUILDING UTILITY AND HOUSING CODE RELATIVE TO NON-SINGLE HOUSING THIS IS UPDATING THE CODE THERE IS NO FEE INCREASE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 29?
[11) NEW BUSINESS]
EXHIBIT A. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.
WE PICKED THIS UP FROM OUTGOING COUNCILMAN GARRETT HOWEVER EXHIBIT A HAS MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT SUBMITTED SOMETHING TO IT I THINK I DON'T BELIEVE EXHIBIT A WAS ATTACHED TO THIS MONTH'S AGENDA I COULD NOT FIND IT ON THERE.
SO THE ONLY THING I NECESSARILY WANT TO CLARIFY IS THAT I WILL NOT BE TAKING UP FIVE AND 10 SO I AM NOT SURE, HOW DO WE DO THAT?
>> THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IS TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION MY SUGGESTION IS REALLY THIS WHOLE RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CHARTER SO THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE A LENGTHY DEBATE ABOUT VARIOUS PROVISIONS AND OTHER PROVISIONS NOBODY HAS THOUGHT ABOUT YET AND IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED PREVIOUSLY THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE CHART AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU WOULD BE VOTING UP OR DOWN RESOLUTION 59 WITH ALL OF THE EXHIBIT A
CHANGES COULD DIVIDE Ã >> THE ONES THAT MR. GARRETT
PUT UP WITH THEY JUST DIE? >> AND HOW THEY TREATED IT,
[INDISCERNIBLE] >> CONGRATULATIONS.
>> >> THAT MEANS EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT. AND NOT INDIVIDUAL PIECES THAT FALL UNDER THE RESOLUTION. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE THINGS IN THE EXHIBIT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, YOU DON'T WANT TO
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PURSUE YOUR ONLY RECOURSE AT THIS POINT IS TO SUBMIT AN AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU ARE SPONSORING,>> I DID THAT. WE HAVE CHANGED THE CLERK BUT I HAVE DONE THAT, SUBMITTED MY AMENDMENTS SO YOU WANT ME TO
AMEND THE WHOLE EXHIBITS? >> IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING LIKE YOU CAME IN WITH THE PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAID I WANT TO AMEND RESOLUTION 59 AND DELETE ITEM NUMBER ONE IN FIVE
>> I AM NOT GOING TO DELETE ANYTHING OUT OF EXHIBIT A I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY PEOPLE'S NAMES AND I AM NOT WILLING TO DELETE THEIR STUFF OUT OF THE EXHIBIT AND ONE OF THEM IS NOT HERE AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS AT ANY OTHER TIME.
>> EVERYBODY, EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER NEXT THURSDAY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO DELETE PORTIONS OF EXHIBIT A OR DELETE THE WHOLE THING AND TO MAKE THE RESOLUTION BUT EVERYTHING WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO EITHER DELETE THINGS OR CHANGE EXISTING LANGUAGE OR TO ADD SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW A NEW CHARGER A PROPOSED ORDER CHANGES.
>> YOU GOT THAT LOOK IN YOUR EYE.
>> WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING THIS OFF
>> AND I KNOW IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS MY COLLEAGUE HAS SAID WE NEED TO GO FOR THE ENTIRE THING BUT LET'S KNOCK THESE THINGS OFF BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPORTANT SOME OF THEM ARE APPLICABLE AND PLEASE, ONE PERSON IS BLINKING OVER THERE.
YOU TELL ME IF YOU WANT TO KILL IT.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO KILL IT.
>> THE CHARTER, THE CONSTITUTION.
IT IS SO EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT IT WARRANTS TAKING TIME AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE HOURS AND IN THE PAST WHEN WE LOOKED AT MORE THAN JUST A SIMPLE MINOR CHANGE OR TO TO THE CHARTER WE ACTUALLY SPREAD IT OUT OVER MULTIPLE SPECIAL.
[INDISCERNIBLE] YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO HASH THINGS OUT AND MY ADVICE IS NOT TO RUSH IT WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO VOTE ON A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF
>> SO I THINK THAT THE WAY IT ENDED UP ON THE AGENDA IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL INTENTION BECAUSE IT WAS FOR US TO HAVE THOSE STUDY SESSIONS FOR THE CHARTER AND SO AND TRYING TO HURRY UP AND APPROVE THIS PIECE WHEN THERE IS A LOT UNDER EXHIBIT A THAT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE SO WOULD WE BE ABLE TO INSTEAD OF VOTING FOR THIS RESOLUTION BE AMENDED TO SAY STUDY SESSIONS, STUDY SESSIONS OR SOMETHING AND IT'S OCTOBER NOW AND WE HAVE UNTIL JANUARY TO GET THIS TO OUR TENNESSEE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME MEETINGS IN BETWEEN THERE SO WE CAN HASH IT OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY, FOR THE CONSTITUTION.
>> EXCELLENT POINT. TO ME THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. NEXT THURSDAY SOMEBODY SAID I MOVED TO AMEND RESOLUTION 59 BASICALLY DELETING EVERYTHING IN THERE, THE WHOLE THING, EXHIBIT A AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION AND I CAN DRAFT SOMETHING THAT SAYS THIS AND INSTEAD TURN IT INTO SOMETHING THAT REQUESTS THE MAYOR TO CALL AT LEAST ONE SPECIAL SESSION FOR STUDY AND REVIEW FOR THE CHARTER TO COME UP WITH PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND WELL BEFORE JANUARY 1 WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER YOU CAN PUT ON THE AGENDA YOU WOULD HASH THINGS OUT SO IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH ARGUING ABOUT THINGS OR YOU COULD HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL CALL TO SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF APPROVING THE PROPOSED CHANGES BY RESOLUTION.
>> MR. BAKER, AND DOING IT THAT WAY, IF THE MAYOR CALLS ONE SPECIAL SESSION WE DON'T BY ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER WE DON'T
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HAVE TO CLOSE OUT THAT SESSION EVERY TIME IN WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTINUE THAT SESSION TO ANOTHER DAY AT THAT TIME SO IT'S NOT LIKE OKAY JUMP IT UP WE WILL KNOW THIS IS A STEADY WORKING GROUP VERSUS TRYING TO HASH IT OUT AT ONE TIME.>> COUNCILPERSON ÃYOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RUSH THROUGH THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AND YOU MAY HAVE TO ANSWER THIS AND A SPECIAL SESSION FORMAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO LEAVE OPEN WHERE HAVING TO DO THIS WITH HIDING OUR MICROPHONES COULD WE DO THIS IN A COMMITTEE FORMAT AND WE ARE NOT SITTING AROUND HERE THIS WAY WE ARE RELEGATED BY POSSIBLE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER AND ALL THAT STUFF AND THE DISCUSSION TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE ARE NOT PREVIOUS TONIGHT, WE CAN WORK ON OTHER THINGS AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE SOMETHING FORWARD EVERY SINGLE YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR CHARTER THIS YEAR SO IF TIME DOES NEED TO BE SPENT IT WOULD BE EASIER IF WE COULD DO IT AROUND A TABLE VERSUS AROUND THIS WAY.
>> ON THE CHARTER REVISION COMMISSION AND WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT ONES AND THEY WENT INTO A CONFERENCE ROOM BUT WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR THE FULL COUNSEL TO DEBATE EVERYTHING THEY WERE JOHN IN A FORMAL VOTING SESSION AND IT'S UP TO YOU ALL AND I DO WANT TO HAVE A FORMAL LOADING SESSION WHERE THERE IS SOME RULES TO THE STRUCTURE THAT'S MY SUGGESTION
BUT >> I UNDERSTAND VOTING WHEN IT'S TIME BUT TRYING TO WORK ON IT TO GET IT DONE A COMMITTEE BY THE MAYOR BECAUSE ONE THING I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE COULD GET VALUABLE INPUT FROM TRIAL COUNCILMEMBERS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN CHARTER REWRITES AND THINGS THEY WERE INTENDING TO CLEAN UP AND THE COMMITTEE ATMOSPHERE
>> HERE IS WHAT MY FEAR IS. ALL HAVE BEEN VERY I WON'T SAY EMOTIONAL BUT VERY AND I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM ARGUMENTATIVE BUT CHARTER CHANGES AND THIS MAY HAVE ESPECIALLY STRONG ÃIF YOU GET INTO YOU HAVE A STUDY SESSION YOU CAN'T TAKE BINDING VOTES IN A STUDY SESSION AND THIS WOULD JUST BE STRAW VOTES AND TO TRY TO DEVELOP CONSENSUS WHAT THE MAJORITY WANTS THE CHANGES TO BE BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL VOTE, ALL OF THOSE WERE PROPOSED CHANGES IN THE STUDY SESSION THEY CAN ALL BE BROUGHT BACK UP AGAIN SO TO ME THIS MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO KNOCK IT OUT PIECE BY PIECE AND GO THROUGH EACH ARTICLE OF THE CHARTER AND TAKE THE FINAL BINDING VOTES ON IT AND WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS THIS THAT HAS BEEN VOTED ON ULTIMATELY THE WAY WE WOULD DO IT AND YOU TAKE INDIVIDUAL VOTES ON EACH SEPARATE ARTICLE OR SECTION OR SUBSECTION AND THEN AT THE END YOU HAVE A FINAL VOTE ON WHATEVER CAME OUT OF THAT CONSENSUS AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT, LET'S SAY YOU ARE TAKING UP ARTICLE TO DEALING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE AND THE
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SAME THING HAPPENS AND AT THE END YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT ARE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, SOME OF THE CHANGES I LIGHT AND SOME CHANGES I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD DECISION AT THAT POINT AND I VOTE THESE DOWN BECAUSE THE THINGS THAT GOT VOTED IN THAT I DON'T LIKE ARE TOO VALUABLE TO ME OR THE OTHER THINGS I DO LIKE I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT EVEN THOUGH SOME OF WHAT I WANTED DIDN'T GET APPROVED.>> I KNOW WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR DECISION SOMETIMES.
>> MY POINT IS TO ME THE STUDY SESSION COULD JUST BE THE VOTING SESSION AND YOU START WITH ARTICLE 1 AND THEIR DEFINITIONS AND BOUNDARIES AND ARTICLE 2 IS WHEN YOU START TO GET INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES AND WE COULD DO TWO ARTICLES PER SESSION TO MAKE IT THROUGH. THESE ARE THE BIGGIES.
AND IN MY VIEW YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CHARTER CHANGES HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT IT'S REALLY SOMETHING AND YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD I WILL WRITE IT UP AND SEND IT TO COUNSEL AND I WILL GET THE TWO THIRDS MAJORITY AND THEY PUT THE STAMP OF APPROVAL AND I AM DONE.
>> LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
I BELIEVE THE LEGISLATURE GENERALLY AND THE LOCAL DELEGATION SPECIFICALLY BASED ON MY PRIOR EXPERIENCE, THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE PIECEMEAL CHARTER CHANGE LEGISLATION THEY WOULD RATHER SEE THE WHOLE PACKAGE OF CHANGES THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED.
>> LET ME CLARIFY HAVING SAID BEFORE THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST A SINGLE ITEM CHARTER CHANGE BUT THEY WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE A DOZEN OF THEM GOING ON BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY WAITING ON A PACKAGE EITHER FOR COMPLETE REWRITE.
>> >> IN MY 13 YEARS I DON'T RECALL ÃWE HAVE SENT TWICE A COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE AND THE FIRST TIME IT'S ULTIMATELY A COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE AND ON
THE BACK AND >> I JUST HATE TO HAVE A
COMMITTEE AND >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> I HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER AND I AGREE THAT KIND OF LIKE THE WAY THE LEGISLATURE ÃLEGISLATIVE AGENDA WORK BUT IF YOU WANT A CHARTER CHANGE BRANCH OF THE TABLE LET'S DISCUSS IT AND THEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO SIT DOWN AND VOTE WE CAN VOTE FOR THOSE THINGS I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION ON THE CITY COUNCIL IS WHAT WE ARE MISSING BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN TWO CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE COULD HAVE COME TO CONSENSUS ABOUT SOMETHING AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY AND PEOPLE FIGHTING BACK AND FORTH WE NEED TIME FOR A TRUE DISCUSSION SO WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY AND NOT JUST WHAT WE WANT AND WITH IT BEING TWO THIRDS VOTE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT TO GET ANYTHING THERE.
>> IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT THAN EVERYBODY THINKS BECAUSE BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCES A WIDE VARIETY OF VIEWS OF HOW THE STRUCTURE OF OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL STRUCTURE OF HOW THE CITY IS AND HOW IT GOVERNS ITSELF.
AND NOT EVERYBODY SEES THINGS THE SAME WAY.
>> LET ME GET MY COMMENTS OUT. TO ALL OF THE COMMENTS, THANK
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YOU THAT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS IS RELATIVE AGAIN THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO PUT THESE IN I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO A ROUNDTABLE WHERE WE ARE NOT DIVIDED BY PLEXIGLASS WERE I'M NOT LOOKING ACROSS AS SOMEONE I WILL SIT UP HERE WE KNOW WE HAVE HAD ISSUES COMMUNICATING AND I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT FOLLOWING THROUGH AND DOING THIS COULD HELP US AMEND THAT AND THIS COULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE TOGETHER BUT I ENTIRELY AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER ROUNDTABLE MEETINGS LOOKING AT EACH OTHER'S EYEBALLS DO A SPECIAL TO COME TO A CONCLUSION OR THROW IT ON THIS MEETING AT THE END OF THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH THE THING THAT IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME THIS DOES NOT TURN INTO FOUR PEOPLE BECAUSE EACH OF THESE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF AN AREA AND SO THAT'S SINGULARLY IMPORTANT TO ME IF I AM THE ONE THIS WAS IN MY NAME AND I KILL IT AND WE CAN CALL A SPECIAL SESSION FOR SEVEN OF US.WE WILL SET A SPECIAL SESSION WORKSHOP WHERE WE SIT DOWN AND SET THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
>> WE WILL DO THAT WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL WORKSHOP WE HAVE A BRAINSTORM WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT RULES OF ENGAGEMENT AND A SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT THAT THE END OF THE YEAR IS UPON US AND WE HAVE A LOT TO DO
>> >> IF YOU WATCH THIS LET US KNOW NEXT WEEK IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THIS COUNCILPERSON ACROSS FROM ME I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT DISRESPECTS THE OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL WHO PUT THE TIME AND EFFORT INTO PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
>> SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS NEXT WEEK WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE RESOLUTION 59 AND THEN THE MAYOR CAN CALL THE SPECIAL CALL TO SESSION AND WE WILL HAVE A WHOLE NEW RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE A SHELL OR THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ÃOR RESOLUTION FIST 59 IT COULD GO EITHER WAY.
>> I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LONG-WINDED.
>> WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT >> YES I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE STATED AS FAR AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TABLE NO NEED TO WEAR A MASK AND EVERYTHING AND TALK ABOUT A PLACEMENT THEY HAVE A LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM AT GAS AND WATER THAT COULD BE A PLACE WHERE WE SPACE OUT MORE AND IF WE NEED TO BUST INTO SUB ROOMS A LITTLE BIT MORE WE COULD DO THAT.
SO IF THE CDE HAS A NICE BIG CONFERENCE ROOM.
HE HAS GOOD SNACKS OVER THERE.
>> FOOD IS IMPORTANT IN THIS GROUP.
OKAY. THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON Ã ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO COMMENT ON RESOLUTION 59 WE ARE READY FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO REQUESTING THE MAYOR CALL A SPECIAL SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO STUDY RECOMMENDATIONS PERTAINING TO THE CITY CODE OF ETHICS.
>> SO WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS THIS I FEEL LIKE GETTING THE CHARTER DONE FIRST BECAUSE WE ARE ON A TIME CONSTRAINT IS PRIORITY AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS POSTPONE THIS AND KIND OF LIKE THE SAME THING WE ARE GETTING READY TO DO WITH THE CHARTER MAYBE AFTER WE GET THE CHARTER DONE WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH THE CODE OF ETHICS WE HAVE SOME CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE IN THE CODE OF ETHICS IT'S KIND OF ANTIQUATED AND THERE
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SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN THEIR AND I'M JUST GOING TO END UP REQUESTING THAT WE DO THE SAME TYPE OF FORMAT AND EVERYONE CAN KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO POSTPONE THIS AND AFTER WE ARE DOWN WITH THE CHARTER IT'S TIME TO DO THE SAME TYPE OF WORKING GROUPS.>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST IF I COULD HAVING SAT THROUGH MY FAIR SHARE OF MEETINGS RECENTLY I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE GET AN ATTORNEY TO DRAFT SOME LANGUAGE FOR US TO START WITH AS A DISCUSSION POINT AND WE CAN SIT DOWN AS A COUNSEL AND GO THROUGH IT AND MASSAGE IT AND MAKE IT OUR OWN SO IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO JUMP OUT IN FRONT OF THE SPONSOR. ASSUMING THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING UPDATED INFORMATION THAT WE CAN WORK WITH SO I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA AND I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A SHELL OF INFORMATION.
>> I FIND ONE EVERY NOW AND THEN.WE ARE NOW READY FOR ITEM 3 RESOLUTION FOUR Ã2021 2022 REQUESTING THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMITTEE TO PERFORM AN AREAWIDE STUDY IN THE DISTRICT COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU ARE THE PERSON YOU ARE RECOGNIZE.
>> SOMETHING I AM VERY UPSET ABOUT AND I WAS ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM TO START THE ACTION AND I SEE THAT JUST LET IT GO.
THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS DO A STUDY SO NO OTHER DUPLEXES WOULD BE BUILT IN THE AREA THAT WAS DISRUPTING THE COMMUNITY SO WE SEE THAT IN THE AREA WE FIND THAT UNFETTERED DEVELOPMENT CAN LEAD TO A HOST OF PROBLEMS THAT DECREASE PROPERTY VALUES AND REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX BASE AS THE RESIDENCE OF THE RED RIVER DISTRICT FIND CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE CHANGED AND DO NOT REFLECT THE ORIGINAL ZONING OR CURRENT. [INDISCERNIBLE] SONY SO WE ARE ASKING THAT A STUDY BE CONDUCTED IN OUR AREA WE KNOW THAT IT IS AN AREA THAT IS SURROUNDED BY THE SCHOOLS, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ALSO Ã UNIVERSITY IT'S BEING USED A LOT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED SOME DISRUPTION WITH PEOPLE IN THE AREA THEIR HOMES THEY ARE RENTING THEM OUT TO TWO OR THREE STUDENTS SO WE ASKED THEM THAT THIS SIMPLE STEADY ÃSTUDY BE DONE AND THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU I THINK THIS IS FOR MR. TYNDALL, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON TO ACCOMPLISH THIS STUDY?
>> I WILL TELL YOU IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS BUSY AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON OUR PLATE SUCH AS REDISTRICTING AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A MINIMUM OF A
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FEW MONTHS AND HOWEVER, WE WILL LOOK AT REASONS TO LOSE A MORATORIUM AND IT'S USED TYPICALLY BECAUSE OF A LACK OF SERVICES, WATER SEWER SERVICES OCCASIONALLY WE USE IT FOR A SCHOOL BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO IT IN TIME IS NOTA GOOD REASON >> SO THIS HAS NO LEGAL
IMPLICATIONS. >> THERE IS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHAT THIS DOES, IT DOES ENACT A MORATORIUM AND MY ADVICE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG COUNCILMEMBER SMITH AND MAYOR ÃTHE MORATORIUMS ÃAND THE LAW THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THE MORATORIUMS BASICALLY TELL PROPERTY OWNERS YOU CAN'T DO THINGS WITH YOUR PROPERTY THAT ARE INHERENT TO PROPERTY AND WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH ÃAND THE GOVERNMENT TELLS PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES AND ONE IS REGULATORY TECHNIQUES AND THAT DEALS WITH THE PASSAGE OF THINGS LIKE MORATORIUMS ON THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT IS SOMEWHAT OF A LESSER DEGREE AND WE WILL DO THAT AND FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS THE PRECEDENTS WILL BECOME MORE AND MORE HOSTILE AND TO GOVERNMENT TAKING OF PROPERTY AND REGULATORY PROPERTY AND WE PASS A REGULATION THAT PREVENTS ÃI BELIEVE NOW THAT BASED ON MY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT THAT IF SOMEBODY WERE TO SUE US IF YOU PASS A MORATORIUM WE WOULD BE SUED AND WE WOULD LOSE THAT AND END UP HAVING TO PAY HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGES AND THEY WOULD SUE US UNDER AND ONLY TIME I BELIEVE YOU CAN PASS MORATORIUM IS IN CONNECTION WITH SEWAGE ISSUES WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU HAVE IN PLACE DOES NOT ADEQUATELY ADDRESS SEWAGE AND CAN LEAD TO ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE THAT SITUATION WILL SAY YOU CAN INTENT ÃAN ACT OF MORATORIUM NO MORE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ABOUT IT. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PASS
MORATORIUMS >> DO WE HAVE ANY SEWAGE PROBLEMS?
>> SO WE HAVE NO SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH AND I WILL GET TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
>> THANK YOU. THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT REQUIRE A MORATORIUM I AM NOT ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM I AM ASKING TO DO A STUDY IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA
>> I THINK I SEE SOME WRITING AND READ NEW TESTIMONY WRITING IN RED.
>> SOON AS THIS IS TOTALLY CORRECT AND THE AREAWIDE STUDY THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE DONE THESE KINDS OF THINGS IN THE PAST AND THIS WOULD BE AN AREAWIDE STUDY TO DETERMINE IF ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ARE ALMOST ALL IN THE BOUNDARIES OUTLINED IN THE RESOLUTION SHOULD BE ZONED A PARTICULAR WAY.
>> IT IS A SMALL AREA I THINK I PASSED YOU ALL AND LAST TIME I PROPOSE THIS AND I'M COMING OVER TO RED RIVER AND IT'S IN
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THAT LAND SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING FOR MORATORIUM BUT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A STUDY DONE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THERE ARE PEOPLE SO THIS IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE RESOLUTION TO DOTHE STUDY WIDE INVESTIGATION. >> THANK YOU COUNCILPERSON ALAN YOU HAVE BEEN PATIENT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH DOING AN AREAWIDE STUDY LIKE THIS IF THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT WE WE HAVE THE VOTE TO SAY WE WILL PUT THE MONEY ON THIS OR HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED THIS IS A BIG PROJECT.
>> AND THEY GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MONEY EVERY YEAR THESE TYPES OF STUDIES AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T GET VOTED ONTO STUDY,, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS COMPLETELY WITHIN OUR CAPABILITIES IS JUST WORK NOW AS STAFF HOURS AND WE CAN'T PUT A TIME ON IT I WOULD HAVE TO PROGRAM IT OUT BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A WHILE BASED ON THE WORKLOAD AND THE ZONING CASES AND OTHER WORK THAT WE DO DEFINITIVE TO THOSE HOURS.
>> SO IF WE APPROVE THIS NEXT WEEK THEN WOULD YOU BE BY NEXT WEEK WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME TYPE OF TIMEFRAME ON WHEN THIS WOULD GET DONE OR MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING HE WOULD SAY WE ARE GOING TO SLATE THIS FOR THREE MONTHS OUT.
THIS DOES NOT GIVE US A TIMEFRAME IT JUST SAYS THAT WE WANT TO GET IT DONE.
>> MAY BE BY NEXT WEEK. DEFINITELY GET AN UPDATE ON THE TIMEFRAME DON'T FORGET WE HAVE A STUDY THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST AND THERE ARE SOME REGULATORY HURDLES IN BETWEEN.
>> SO RIGHT I AM NOT SAYING YOUR TIMING WHEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE SO THE ACTUAL STUDY CAN COME BACK TO US YOU GET WHAT I AMSAYING ? SO WE WILL KNOW THIS IS SLATED OUT WE WILL WORK WITH US AND FOR FIVE MONTHS, DO YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GAP IS GOING TO BE IN TIME. THANK YOU.
>> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR I SWEAR IS MY LAST TIME TALKING.
[LAUGHTER]. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE MAP THAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS SHOWING YOU IS IN FACT ON OUR AGENDA PAGE 219.
THE RESOLUTION ON MY IPAD HAS LITTLE RED BLURB THAT TALKS ABOUT THE MORATORIUM,
>> SO EVERYTHING IN BLACK AND YOU JUST WANT TO STUDDIE.
>> EXACTLY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT RESOLUTION FORM. THE CITY COUNCIL OF CLARKVILLE, TENNESSEE ABOUT THE VACCINE MANDATE.
BUTLER, YOU'RE THE SPONSOR? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.
>> THERE'S A RESOLUTION TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND SO I DECIDED THAT I WOULD PUT THIS FORWARD HERE AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF US, EVEN IF YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF VACCINES, I MYSELF AM SUPPORTIVE THAT IF YOU WANT TO GET A VACCINE, YOU BE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD DO SO AND THIS IS KIND OF IN RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENTIAL VACCINE MANDATE WHICH HAPPENED ON SEPTEMBER 9TH AND JUST WHERE WE STAND, AGAIN, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T LIKE TO MAKE THESE BECAUSE WE THINK THEY'RE TOOTHLESS, ET CETERA, AND OUR COMMUNITY JUST WANTS US TO SAY SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING SO THAT THEY KNOW WE'RE LISTENING OR WE CARE. AND SO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT. THANK YOU.
>> DO YOU RECOGNIZE? >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A COSPONSOR, BUT I HAVE INFORMED THE CLERK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ED AS THE SECOND
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WHENEVER THE CHAIR ASKS FOR A SECOND AND I KNOW WE BLURT OUT THE WORD SECOND AND WHENEVER I SAY SECOND, I LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS THE SECOND AND I HAVE A PERSONAL CASE.I HAVE A SON-IN-LAW CONFINED TO A WHEELCHAIR.
HE HAS A CONDITION. HE MIKE ADMINISTER MONEY THAN THE SOCIAL SECURITY AND HE'S BEEN INFORMED THAT IF HE DOES NOT TALK THE VACCINE, OF COURSE, HE'S GOING TO LOSE HIS JOB, AND, THEN THERE'S THOSE PERSONS THAT HAVE ALREADY HAD THE VIRUS AND THEY HAVE AN IMMUNE SYSTEM AND THEY'VE GOT THE ANTIBODIES AND THEY'VE JUST HAD IT RECENTLY AND THEY WORK FOR THE IRS AND ALSO NO EXCEPTIONS, HE WAS TOLD AND THEY JUST HAD THE VACCINE.
THEY JUST GOT OVER IT LIKE A WEEK AGO AND THEY HAVE THIS DEADLINE. THE VACCINE IS GOING TO GIVE THEM SO MUCH ANTIBODIES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I APPRECIATE IT.
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO TAKE UP SO MUCH TIME AFTER I TALKED ABOUT TAKING UP SO MUCH TIME.
>> THE IRONY IS NOT LOST ON ME. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
THE SEPTEMBER 9TH ORDINANCE THAT THE MANDATE THAT THE PRESIDENT DID, IT WAS -- THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES TO THAT AND WHAT SPECIFIC PIECES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
>> COUNCIL BUTLER. >> I THINK IT'S BROKEN DOWN WELL. I DID WRITE THIS WITH ANOTHER PERSON AND I WENT OVER IT AND MADE SURE I AGREED WITH EVERYTHING AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY, LIKE, KIND OF WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SPOKE ABOUT AND PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING GIVEN THE OPTION TO EITHER GET THE VACCINE OR LOSE THEIR JOB.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF -- REALLY, REALLY? I WAS TRYING TO NOT BE SUPERCONTROVERSIAL ABOUT THIS. THERE IS A LOT TO BE SAID ABOUT ALLOWING OSHA TO STEP IN AND TAKE THE PATH THAT WE'VE TAKEN TO PUT THIS INTO -- ONE OF MY WHEREAS STATEMENTS.
THE REST OF IT JUST DEVOTES THAT WE ARE GOING TO, AS A COMMUNITY, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THAT IT WOULD NOT AT ANY POINT AND JUNCTURE BE MANDATED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
>> NO, IT DOES NOT, BUT OK. >> OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION? >> WE'RE NOW READY FOR A SPECIAL ASSEMBLY FOR CONCERNS DUE TO COVID-19 AND COUNCIL PERSON RED,
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST ASKING THE LIEUTENANT LIER TO CALL A SPECIAL SESSION IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19 AND IT SAID INSTEAD OF RELYING ON SPECIAL ORDERS, IT'S ASKING IF IT DO THEIR DUTIES AND THAT MEANS HOLDING HEARINGS, COMMITTEES AND DEBATES AND VOTING CONCERNING COVID AND ANOTHER THING, THE LETTER STATES THAT A VIRUS OR A PANDEMIC DOES NOT MAKE EXCEPTIONS TO THE SEPARATION OF POWERS, IF YOU WANT TO STATE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT.
COVID OR NOT, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC THAT WE LIVE IN AND OUR STATE LEGISLATURE SHOULD DO THEIR DUTIES. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING RESOLUTION 25? COUNCIL ZACHARIAS?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE SPONSOR OF THIS RESOLUTION, THE
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LETTER APPEARS TO TAKE EXCEPTION WITH A PARTICULAR SET OF ORDERS AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THAT'S RUE TRUE, WHATT MIGHT BE AND TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LACK OF EFFECTIVE CONTACT TRACING BECAUSE WE ARE NOT CONTACT TRACING RIGHT NOW.>> THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS HE'S BEEN MAKING CONCERNING ALL OF HIS EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND HE'S BEEN MAKING CONCERNING COVID IN OR OUT OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, IT SHOULD BE MADE BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, EVERYONE OF THEM, AND THEY SHOULD BE DOING THEIR
JOB AND VOTING UP AND DOWN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT FOR SOME OF THE WORDING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING DO AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
>> OK, ANY FINAL THOUGHTS? WE'RE NOW READY AND WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF ITEM 6, ORDINANCE 30 AND REPEATED FOR DISCUSSION, AARON
6-2021-'22. >> I WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS AND I'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I'LL JUST READ OFF POINTS OF WHY I HAVE THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION AND SO, THE APPLICANT WAS TOLD THAT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE ROADS COULD HANDLE MORE TRAFFIC AND THE FIRST TIME THAT THE APPLICANTS A APPLIED, IT PASSED AND DENIED AT THE CITY COUNCIL DUE TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND RUNNING A RED LIGHT.
AND TWO YEARS LATER, THE APPLICANTS TRIED AGAIN.
THE APPLICANT TRIED AGAIN AND THE COUNCIL VOTED 12-0 AND NONE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD ANY COMMENTS AND THE ZONING REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED AND THE REGIONAL COUNCIL AND STAFF BOTH UNANIMOUSLY VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. AND DURING THE LAST APPEAL FOR RECONSIDERATION, THE COUNCIL APPROVED ALLOWMENT TO BE HEARD DUE TO MOTIONS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME AND I WON'T NAME THE NAMES AND . AND THE ORDINANCE PASSED ON FIRST READING AND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SECOND REASON, IT WAS PULLED BY ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER AND FAILED.
SO BASED ON THE NEIGHBOR'S ZONING APPROVED AND THE COUNCIL'S CONTINUING DENIAL REQUEST AFTER THE NEIGHBORS, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT I OPENS TOA ZONING TO DEFEND AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THE FULL BENEFIT OF A FULL COUNCIL VOTE, IT'S SOMETHING I'M ASKING EVERYONE TO CONSIDER.
>> COUNCIL BUTLER. >> THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU TO THE SPONSOR, I GUESS --
>> YES, DISCUSSION. >> I SAID LAST MONTH AND I WILL SAY AGAIN, WHEN YOU ARE APPROVING ZONING IN AN AREA EXCEPT FOR ONE BUILDER, STUFF COMES UP TO BE ARGUED AGAINST, WE HAVE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THAT WILL LOOK TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE ONE PERSON, WE'RE GETTING ON AND I
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DO HAVE EXTREMELY BIG CONCERNS BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN AND THIS IS NOT SOMEONE WHO WOULD PULL SOMEONE OFF OF THE AGENDA, I PROMISE. THIS IS YOUR -- YOU'RE BRAND NEW. THIS IS HOURLY EVENTS HIT ARE NOT MAKING US LOOK GOOD. WE'RE PASSING THIS ON FIRST READING, PASSING EVERYTHING TO THE SAME AREA FOR OTHER BUILDERS AND WHEN THIS NAME COMES UP, WE'RE PULLING IT UP TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I JUST -- I DON'T EVEN HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS BUT SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT BE A THING WE'RE DOING. THANK YOU.>> COUNCIL PERSON ALLEN. >> THE SECOND READING WE LOST TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE AND NOW IT'S GONE AGAIN AND I THINK THAT -- I CAN'T REQUEST FOR REARGUES RECONSIDERATION, BUT ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE AVAILING SIDE COULD REQUEST AND I WOULD BE FOR THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING
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THIS ITEM? >> SEEING NONE, WE'RE NOW READY FOR MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS AND ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT THEY WISH TO MAKE. COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER.
>> I DON'T WANT TO STEAL ANY OF YOUR THUNDER, BUT WE HAD A WEBSITE ABOUT OUR GLORIOUS TRANSPORTATION 2020 PLAN AND IF EITHER OF YOU WANTED TO MENTION THAT, I WON'T STEAL THE GLORY.
>> YOU WILL ASK THE COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
CHAIRPERSON SMITH. >> WE HAVE A WEBSITE ABOUT THE 2020 PLAN AND YOU CAN GO ONLINE ONLINEAND TELLS YOU ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON.
IT'S STEP-BY-STEP AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FAR ABOUT HOW MANY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, BECAUSE WE JUST STARTED, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN PICTURE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT AND REVIEW AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN MAKE COMMENTSES COMMENTS M JUST SO HAPPY WE HAVE THAT PUT UP TO BE TRANSPARENT AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS CITY ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION OF 2020.
IT'S TRANSPORTATION2020.COM AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GIVE CREDIT TO OUR COMMUNICATION'S TEAM, LINDA GARREN AND HENRY KILLPARTICULAR KILLPATRICK AND THEY ARE AN EXCELLENT TEAM AND PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE FOR OUR CITY AND WE HAVE TRAFFIC CAMERAS AND ONE IN ROSSVIEW ROAD AND WHILE THAT CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON AND WE'LL BE MOVING THAT AROUND STARTING ADDITIONAL PROJECTS AND ANY ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT? A COUPLE COMMENTS?
>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE CHIEF AND I SAW THAT IN THE DEAL AND TO ALL OF THE OTHER -- WHAT ARE WE IN SEPTEMBER, ALL OF THE OTHER SEPTEMBER BIRTHDAYS.
>> THANK YOU. >> OK, ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 5TH OCTOBER 5TH, A SPECIAL SESSION, AND THE PURPOSE IS TO CONSIDER THE FEDERAL LAWSUIT SETTLEMENT AGAINST THE CITY BY BLACK HORSE BREWERY, FRANKLIN STREET PUB CORPORATION, FRANKLIN STREET CORPORATION AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, PLEASE SEE MR. BAKER PRIOR TO TUESDAY AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IT WILL REQUIRE TWO READINGS BECAUSE IT DOES REQUIRE TO TRANSFER PROPERTY AND BE AWARE THAT THAT IS COMING UP AND THEN FINALLY, THE CITY OF PARKSVILLE RE APPORTIONMENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD A NONVOTING WORKSHOP TO BE PRESENTED AND THIS APPORTIONMENT IF OUR CITY CHARTER AND THIS IS ARTICLE 2, SECTION 1 AND SHALL BE DIVIDED INTO 12 WARDS AND BY THAT ORDINANCE, THE 12 WARDS SHALL REPRESENT SUBSTANTIAL EQUALIZATIONS AND SOME WARDS HAVE EXPERIENCED MORE THAN OTHERS AND DUE THAT, AND COUPLED
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WITH THE CENSUS DATA, IT'S BEEN RELEASED AND WE WILL HAVE TO BE REBALANCE OR NEED TO REBALANCE THE WARDS TO REAPPORTIONMENT AND WE'VE ENLISTED THE ASSISTANCE OF THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE THAT MAKES REDRAWING THE LINES MUCH EASIER AND INSTANTANEOUS AND OUR ELECTION COMMISSIONER HAS DONE REALLY GOOD WORK THERE AND THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION TO DRAW WARDS THAT ARE EQUAL IN POPULATION AND DUE TO THE GROWTH OF SOME OF OUR CURRENT WARDS OR OVER 50% OR. PUGH POPULATED AND THE NEW PAPE SAME. IT REPRESENTS WHERE CURRENT POLLS PLACES AND AFTER THE OCTOBER 20TH WORKSHOP, WHERE WE'LL ALL BE PRESENTED WITH A MAP AND DETAILS OF THE WARD IS THE CITY-WIDE WARD VOTING, BOTH CURRENT AND PROPOSED, YOU CAN SCHEDULE TIME FOR THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE LOOK AT THE MAPS IN GREAT DETAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER.AND ALL INPUT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE CONSIDERED IN THE MAP OR AMENDED MAP WITH REASONS PRESENTED AT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON OCTOBER 28TH FOR FIRST READING AND AT THAT POINT, THERE'S ANOTHER MONTH FOR ENGAGEMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC TO GAIN INPUT. ULTIMATELY, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY MAYOR AND COMMISSION TO ASSIST THE ELECTION COMMISSIONER IN HAVING TO DISTRIBUTE OVER 100,000 VOTER CARDS ONCE. IF BOTH CAN ADOPT THEIR NEW WARDS AND , THEY CAN DISTRIBUTE SET PRIOR TO THE SPRING PRIMARIES AND ALSO ALLOW HER TO LOCATE NEW POLLING LOCATIONS IF NECESSARY. COUNCILPERSON EVANS?
>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE TIME FOR THE SPECIAL SESSION. IS THAT AT 4:30 FOR BOTH OF
THEM? >> WELL, OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION STARTS AT 4:30 AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION OR THE SPECIAL SESSION PRIOR TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR
THE FIRST READING. >> THAT'S OCTOBER 20TH.
OCTOBER 20TH IS 4:30. >> WE'RE GOOD.
COUNCILPERSON. >> TUESDAY AT 6:00, I HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT SHOULD BE ON THE CALENDAR.
>> THANK YOU. >> OK, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? SEEING
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