Oct 20, 2021 Special Session

[1) CALL TO ORDER Mayor Joe Pitts]

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>> OUR CHAPLAIN OF THE DAY. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS WILL LEAD

US IN PRAYER, FOR. >> MOST HIGH GOD, WE BOW HUMBLY IN HEART MIND AND SOULS THANKING YOU FOR YOUR LOVE GRACE AND MERCY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WE BESTOW UPON US.

THANK YOU FOR FORGIVING US FOR OUR DAILY SINS, THAT YOU SENT YOUR SON JESUS, TO DIE ON THE CROSS, NOW LORD AT THIS SPECIAL MEETING, WE ASK YOU TO IN YOUR SPIRIT TO TOUCH THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AS WE PREPARE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY, CITIZENS AND COUNCIL.

LORD BLESS EVERYONE PRESENT IN THIS LEGISLATIVE CHAMBER AND THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES O GOD WE ASK THAT YOU COMFORT THE FAMILIES AND GIVE THEM PEACE, ESPECIALLY, LOIS SHAL'S FAMILY.

LORD WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THE LEST FORTUNATE, THOSE THAT ARE DEALING WITH LIFE PROBLEMS OR SITUATIONS THAT MAY HAVE THEM BOUND MENTALLY PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY.

WRRIGT NOW IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS WE DECLARE VICTORY OVER THE ADVERSARIES. NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST US SHALL PROSPER, THIS IS OUR PREPARE IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF

JESUS WE PRAY AMEN. >> WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MEMBERS PLEASE REGISTER YOUR ATTENDANCE. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE

[5) ROBINSON V. CITY A. ORDINANCE 45-2021-22 (Second Reading) Approving a settlement of the Robinsons and/or Franklin Street Corporation (FSC) v. City, State Court and Federal Court lawsuits Councilperson Butler]

ROAD. >> ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT CAN EXCEPT MR. RICHMOND AND WHICH ARE APPROVED.

>> FRANKLIN STREET CORPORATION VERSUS CITY AND STATE COURT LAWSUITS. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER YOU ARE THE

SPONSOR YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025-22.

>> ORDINANCE 45, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ORDINANCE 45? SEEING NONE ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE.

[6) 2021 REAPPORTIONMENT NON-VOTING WORK SESSION A. Presentation by Elizabeth Black, Administrator of Elections, and Jeffrey Tyndall, Regional Planning Director]

>> 11 MEMBERS VOTED, 11 VOTED YES, NONE VOTE ABSTAIN.

>>> PRESENTATION BY OUR ADMINISTRATOR OF ELECTIONS, ELIZABETH BLACK AND JEFF TYNDALL.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ARE THANKFUL TO HAVE BOTH THESE PROFESSIONALS WORKING ON OUR BEHALF WHEN IT COMES TO REAPPORTIONMENT OR REDISTRICTING.

THEY HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO MAKE.

WE'LL ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS AND THEN THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC MEETINGS AND QUESTION. QUESTIONS FOR WARD-SPECIFIC ISSUES TO MR. TINDALL.

>> REAPPORTIONMENT AND REDISTRICTING HAVE BEEN ON BOTH OUR MINDS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I'M GLAD TO GET TO THIS POINT. IT'S A LONG EFFORT.

NOT JUST ON ELIZABETH BEHALF BUT ON ALL IN OUR OFFICE, THIS IS A SIMILAR WE GAVE TO COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY TWEAKED TO THE CITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CITY CHARTER. WHY DO YOU REAPPORTION.

BECAUSE OF THE SPALL TEXT I BROUGHT MY OWN COPY TODAY AND I'LL JUST QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY CHARTER, ARTICLE 2 SECTION 1 SUB-B, DID CITY COUNCIL SHALL DIVIDE THE CITY INTO 12 WARDS SO THAT COUNSELMEN WILL REPRESENT EQUAL PORTIONS.

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WE HAVE TO DO THIS FOR THE COUNTY SO WE HAVE BEEN SORT OF PIGGYBACKING ON THOSE EFFORTS AND DOING THIS FOR THE CITY.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE TIME LINE HOW WE GOT TO TODAY IN A MOMENT.

THOUGH THERE IS NO DEAD LINE THE COUNTY HAS A MANDATE THAT THEY APPROVE THEIR DISTRICTS BY JANUARY 1ST.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING AND YESTERDAY HAD A DRAFT FINAL.

THE FOR A POTENTIAL VOTE FIRST WEEK IN NOVEMBER.

I REALIZE THIS IS AN ORDINANCE, WOULD TAKE A LITTLE LONGER TO GET TWO READINGS. ELIZABETH IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS. THE REASON WE WOULD LIKE TO PIGGY BACK THOSE EFFORTS, SHE HAS TO MAIL OUT TO THE VOTERS OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY. IF THE CITY DELAYS PAST JANUARY SHE WOULD HAVE TO MAIL OUT ALL THE CARDS WHICH IS OVER 90,000 OF THOSE. AGAIN, AND THAT IS AT A CONSIDERABLE COST TO HER OFFICE AND ALL THE TAXPAYERS WHICH FUND THE ELECTION COMMISSION. SO WE ARE HOPING AND THE MAYORS HAVE SPOKEN THAT IF WE CAN COORDINATE THESE EFFORTS AND HAVE THESE ADOPTED RELATIVELY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER SHE CAN SEND OUT ONE BATCH OF CARDS, PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING CONFUSED, THEY GET ONE CARD WITH THEIR CITY WARD, COUNTY WARD AND HOPEFULLY THEIR STATE DISTRICTS AS WELL. AND IT'S ONE STOP SHOPPING AND THEN SHE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON PRECINCTS AND POLLING LOCATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL SECURED FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS.

THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A PRIMARY IN MAY AND THE REASON TO GET THESE DONE FOR THE COUNTY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING FOR THE DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY KNOW WHICH DISTRICTS THEY'RE RUNNING WITH AND I UNDERSTAND WITH A NONPARTISAN ELECTION AT THE CITY, THE PERIOD TO PICK UP PETITIONS IS MUCH MORE TOWARDS THE SUMMER.

AGAIN WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THIS WAS DONE RELATIVELY IN SYNC SO IT WAS DONE FOR ONE EFFORT FOR THE ELECTION COMMISSION.

AS MENTIONED IN THE CHARTER YOU MUST USE THE MOST RECENT FEDERAL CENSUS WHICH CAME OUT IN AUGUST. THERE IS A CONCEPT OUT THERE THAT WAS BORN THROUGH SEVERAL LAWSUITS.

WHEN YOU HAVE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN A WARD OR COUNTY DISTRICT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE WARD ACTUALLY HAVE LESS OF A SAY.

THEY ARE VOTING ON ONE PERSON, AND IT WOULD TAKE FEWER PEOPLE TO ELECT A PERSON TO THAT WARD. IT IS A GOOD IDEA EVERY ONCE THAT WHILE TO BALANCE OUT YOUR CITY AND I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE SITUATION IS NOW.

AS OF THE CENSUS, 166,722 PEOPLE IN CLARKSVILLE.

THAT'S GONE UP SINCE AUGUST, BASED ON APRIL OF LAST YEAR, HERE WE ARE A YEAR LATER TO FINALLY GET THE FINAL NUMBERS.

THE CITY HAS 12 WARDS SO THE IDEAL POPULATION FOR EACH WARD SHOULD BE 13,AYE 93 ROUNDED DOWN AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY VOTERS. THAT IS JUST PURE CITIZENS.

SO THAT NUMBER OF VOTERS TYPICALLY AROUND WHAT, 60% OF THOSE, 70% OF THOSE ARE VOTERS. IT DEPENDS ON THE WARD.

AND COUNTY DISTRICTS, SAME IDEA. IF ONE THING THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS POLLING LOCATION, IT WAS A BIG ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE SECURING COUNTY POLLING PLACES AT LEAST ONE OR MORE PER COUNTY DISTRICT BECAUSE EVERY 6,000 VOTERS PER STATE LAW IN A COUNTY DISTRICT MUST HAVE A PRECINCT.

THERE IS DEVIATION ALLOWED AND AGAIN, COURT AND LAWS HAVE IS BEEN INTERPRETED OVER THE TIME TO WHAT IS REASONABLY ACCEPTABLE AND THAT IS THE CONCEPT OF A 10% DEVIATION.

WHICH IF YOU BOIL IT DOWN IS PLUS OR MINUS 95% WHAT WE HONED IT IN ON. FIVE%. 5%. SO MUCH CHANGE HAD TO HAPPEN, PLUS OR MINUS 5% SHOULD BE YOUR IDEAL TARGET.

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EACH 1% REPRESENTS OBVIOUSLY 166 PEOPLE.

SO HOW DID WE GET HERE TODAY? ON SEPTEMBER 21ST THE MAYOR, THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR MS. ELIZABETH BLACK MY SELF AND TWO MEMBERS MET AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE HAD ALREADY BEGUN WORKING ON THE COUNTY DISTRICTS. MAYOR PITTS HAS ASKED THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE OVER THE SUMMER TO TAKE THE FIRST PASS CREATING COUNTY AND CITY DISTRICTS AND THEN LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE ELECTION COMMISSION TO REFINE IT IN THERE BASED ON LOCAL GEOGRAPHY AND GROWTH.

THEY SHOWED THE CURRENT SITUATION AND WE BEGAN TO CONTINUE TO DRAW THE WARDS AND WE SET POTENTIAL TIME LINE WITH THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR. ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, ELECTION STAFF AND OUR STAFF MET AGAIN TO WORK ON MAPS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TODAY, WE'RE PRESENTING THE FINDINGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. STARTING NEXT -- STARTING TOMORROW AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH NOVEMBER 19TH WE WELCOME ANY COUNCILMEMBERS TO MEET WITH OURSELVES AND THE ELECTION COMMISSIONER AT THE ELECTION COMMISSION TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR WARDS. WE'LL TRY TO HAVE SOME MAPS BUT TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT ABOUT PROCESS AND THE OVERALL MAP. IF YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS PLEASE COME AND SEE US. THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE BUT THE MARGINS ARE VERY TIGHT AND WE'LL GO OVER THAT IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. THIS IS ALL WITH THE HOPE OF PRESENTING WITH A FIRST READING ON OCTOBER 28TH, WITH THE FIRST VOTE ON NOVEMBER 4TH AND THEN PRESENTING FOR SECOND READING AND VOTE ON DECEMBER 2ND.

ON NOVEMBER 30TH FOR SECOND READING SHOULD THERE BE ANY NEED FOR AN AMENDED MAP IT WOULD BE INTRODUCED AT THAT TIME THROUGH AN AMENDMENT PROCESS WITH CAUSE. SO THE APPROACH.

HOW DID WE GO ABOUT WHERE DO MOVER ANY LINES IF NEEDED? FIRST GOAL IS TO RETAIN ANY WARDS, 2010 INTO 2020.

THIS WASN'T ALWAYS POSSIBLE AS CAN YOU SEE.

WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN A BALANCE, PLUS OR MINUS 5%, THAT'S OUR TARGET OUR BULL'S E. WE HAVE TO GET AS CLOSE TO THAT AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU POTENTIALLY GET SUED YOU DIDN'T REAPPORTION PROPERLY.

THE COUNTY'S MAP HAS TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE ELECTION COMMISSION. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WILL LOOK AT. WE WANTED TO USE NATURAL AND HARD BOUNDARIES WHEREVER POSSIBLE, RIVERS, RAILROAD TRACKS, TVA CAN LINES, WE DIDN'T WANT TO RUN IT DOWN A NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD AND HAVE NEIGHBORS IN ONE SIDE OF THE STREET BE IN ONE WARD AND NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE BE IN ANOTHER WARD. LITTLE HARDER IN THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS BUT AS YOU CAN SEE WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB KEEPING IT TO THE MAJOR ROADS AND RIVERS.

WE ALSO WANTED TO MAINTAIN THE DEMOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY.

PREVIOUSLY HELD IN THE DISTRICT. DID A GREAT JOB THERE.

I'LL SHOW YOU A SLIDE LATER ON THAT AND FINALLY LOWEST RANKING CRITERIA TO EXPECT CURRENT COUNCILMEMBERS HOMES WHERE POSSIBLE. I MENTIONED THAT'S THE CRITERIA.

HOW DO WE DO THIS? AND TEN YEARS AGO THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF THIS BEAUTIFUL PROGRAM THAT THE COMPTROLLER DEVELOPED. IT INTEGRATES WITH THE GIS MAPPING PROGRAMS AND IT IS DOWN TO THE BLOCK LEVEL.

THEY TOOK THE CENSUS DATA AT THE BLOCK LEVEL WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD. TYPICALLY BLOCKS ARE 100, 200, 300 PEOPLE. THEY HAD VERY SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIES. I WANT TO SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WHY THIS WAS A MORE DIFFICULT PROCESS THAN IT SEEMS. GET THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEXT STREET. WE ARE KINDS OF BOUND WHERE THE BLOCKS GO. THESE ARE TWO EXAMPLES ON THE LEFT, THERE IS A BLOCK OF A START OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE ALL OF THE LITTLE PIECES IN SIDE OF IT ARE ALSO PIECES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU CAN'T TAKE ONE PIECE OR THE OTHER PIECE, AFTER YOU TAKE IT IN TOGETHER YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OVER 700 PEOPLE. WHEN YOUR MARGIN OF ERROR IS LESS THAN 700, AROUND 600, THAT IS 5% MOVING ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ON THE RIGHT WHERE IT GOES DOWN WARFIELD BOULEVARD, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THAT TOUCHES, THE CENSUS COUNTED THEM ALL IN THAT LARGER BLOCK GROUP. LARGER BLOCK GROUPS ARE PUT TOGETHER, IF IT'S SO SMALL AND JUST A FEW PEOPLE, WHEN THE

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ABOUT BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MORE FULLY BREAK THAT DOWN. WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE CENSUS TO BREAK THAT DOWN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE CONSIDERING IT TOOK THIS LONG TO GET THIS DATA.

THESE ARE COUNTY EXAMPLES, WE HAVE DONE THIS PRESENTATION PREVIOUSLY. UP ON THE LEFT THAT IS ONE CENSUS BLOCK. IF YOU WANT TO GET THAT LITTLE CORNER TO ROUND OUT THE AREA OR YOU CAN'T GET THE LEFT AREA, IT'S AN ALL OR NOTHING SCENARIO. SAME THING ON THE RIGHT THERE.

IF YOU JUST WANTED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE RIGHT SIDE, NOT QUITE POSSIBLE. AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE TO GRAB ALL THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT JUTS DOWN ON THE SOUTH INTO THE GREEN INSIDE OF THAT. HERE IS ONE THAT GAVE US A LOT OF TROUBLE IS THE ONE THERE ON THE LEFT.

IT'S UP THERE ON TINY TOWN ROAD, IT TOUCHES FROM PEACHER'S MILL ROAD TO TINY TOWN ROAD, ONE NEIGHBORHOOD CUT OUT, NOTHING IN BETWEEN UNTIL YOU GET TO PEACHER'S HILL ROAD.

IT'S AN ALL OR NOTHING SITUATION, IT TOUCHES TWO MAJOR ROADS WITH NOTHING IN BETWEEN. ON THE RIGHT ANOTHER EXAMPLE HOW IT RUNS ALL THE WAY UP THE RIVER THERE EVEN THOUGH THE MORE LOGICAL BREAK IS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.

THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD AS WE WENT FORWARD.

YES, THAT IS A GREAT POINT. CENSUS BLOCKS ARE SET BY THE CENSUS. THERE IS NO LOCAL STATE INPUT ON CENSUS BLOCKS. WE DID HAVE A SAY ON CENSUS TRACKS EARLY ON BUT ALL WE COULD RECOMMEND ON THE CENSUS IS SPLIT THESE BLOCKS, THEY'VE GOTTEN TOO BIG, PUT A SPLIT BETWEEN THEM.

BUT WE ONLY HAD 40 IN THE WHOLE COUNTY, WE HAD THOUSANDS OF BLOCKS IN THE COUNTY. UP TO THEM, THEIR DATA SET, CENSUS BLOCKS, CENSUS BUREAU. SO THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE THE CURRENT OVER AND UNDER REPRESENTATION IS BASED ON OUR 2020 CENSUS. AND WE'LL DEFINITELY GET THIS PRESENTS OUT. WE WERE -- PRESENTATION OUT.

WE WERE PUTTING THE FINAL POINTS ON IT JUST EARLIER.

MORE THAN 6% OVER POPULATED. 1, 11 AND 10 IN THE ORANGE ARE WITHIN THE 5% TOLERANCE, AND THE MORE THAN 6% NEGATIVE UNDER REPRESENTED. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WHAT TELLS ME THAT INITIAL BLUSH IS 5, 8 AND 12 ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SHRINK. 1, 11 AND 10 ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE UP FOR THAT AND THE OTHERS WILL HAVE TO OBTAIN THAT IDEAL POPULATION. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN REAL NUMBERS. ON THE RIGHT IS THE CURRENT WARD MAP. NOT THE NEW MAP YET, THAT WILL BE THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU'RE ALL ABOUT TO JUMP OUT OF YOUR SEATS AND WE DID PRINT YOU ALL THREE BY THREE FOOT MAPS TO TAKE HOME WITH YOU. SO THE POPULATION CHART ON THE LEFT WILL SHOW YOU AND WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE HIGH POINT, THE HIGH WATER MARK AND THE LOW WATER MARK HERE FOR TO CITY.

THE HIGH WATER MARK IS WARD 12 AT 42% OVER POPULATION, 5900 PEOPLE MORE THAN IT NEEDS. THAT JUST SHOWS YOU, AND WE ALL KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS AND WE COULD HAVE JUST POLLED US BEFORE THIS AND WOULD SAY, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE GROWTH IS AND YOU'D PROBABLY BE CORRECT.

ON THE LOW WATER MARK WARD NUMBER 420% UNDERPOPULATED.

SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE UP OVER 2700 INDIVIDUALS TO GET BACK TO THE ZERO MARK. CAN YOU SEE THE MASSIVE SHIFT THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO LOOK AT WHERE 5, 8 AND 12 ARE GOING TO DRAMATICALLY MOVE AND THE REST HAVE TO ABSORB WHAT'S BASICALLY LEFT OVER. AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH STEP BY STEP HOW WE WENT THROUGH THAT.

JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE WARDS 5 AND 12 COMBINED ARE ALMOST 11,000 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE. THAT COULD ALMOST MAKE ITS OWN CITY WARD RIGHT THERE JUST OVERPOPULATION.

IT IS A GREAT TIME TO DO THIS IS WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO SAY.

AND THERE IS YOUR NEW WARD SYSTEM.

I'LL LET YOU ALL PAUSE A MINUTE AND TAKE A LOOK.

AS CAN YOU SEE OUR HIGH WATER MARK IS WARD 12, ONLY 592 PEOPLE OVER THE IDEAL POPULATION AND THE LOW WATER MARK IS WARD 5 AT EXACTLY 5% UNDER OR 695 PEOPLE WHICH WAS JUST A FEW AWAY FROM

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ALL RIGHT, HIBZ ELIZABETH BROUP A GOOD POINT.

AS DRAWN RIGHT NOW EVERYONE IS IN A INDIVIDUAL WARD.

THERE ARE NOT TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHARING A WARD IN THIS LAYOUT. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WAS AN IDEAL INTENDED, WE LET THE DATA TALK FOR IT BUT IT DID SHAKE OUT THAT WAY. ONE OF THE MOVES IN THIS MAP HOWEVER IS WARDS 1 AND 5 WILL SWAP SEATS.

SO YOU HAVE WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE ONE IS NOW SHOWN IN 5 ON THIS MAP AND 5 IS SHOWN ON 1. EVERYONE ELSE IS IN THEIR EXISTING WARD NUMBER. YES.

WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT. 11 WOULD BE SHARING WITH NUMBER

9, I APOLOGIZE, THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE'LL GET TO THAT EXPLANATION

LATER, RIGHT MR. TYNDALL? >> YES.

IT DOESN'T COME UP TO THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE FOR YOUR WARD NUMBER. ALL RIGHT AND WE'LL HAVE MORE TIME TO DIGEST THOSE IN A SECOND BUT DIZZY WANT TO GO OVER AND MAYBE AS I FLIP THROUGH THE SLIDE LATER --

>> HANG ON A MINUTE. LETS MR. TYNDALL TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME.

>> I'LL COME BACK TO THIS, I'LL GO THROUGH THESE AS WE LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL ONES. I DID MENTION DEMOGRAPHICS AND I THINK THIS IS A BIT A SOURCE OF PRIDE FOR US ACTUALLY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WITH THESE MOVES PRETTY MUCH MAINTAIN THE RACIAL MAKEUP OF EVERY WARD. SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE TOP ONE IS THE CITYWIDE BREAKDOWN FOR 2020 DEMOGRAPHICS, THE CITY IS 57% WHITE, 24% BLACK 19% OTHER AND OF THAT 12% HISPANIC. DUE TO ROUNDING THIS MAY NOT EQUAL 100. OTHER IS ANYONE WHO PUT DOWN ONE OR MORE RACES ARE SOME OF THE RACES THAT DON'T REALLY RISE UP HERE LIKE BE ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER OR OTHERS THAT DON'T HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUAL REPRESENTATION.

AND AS CAN YOU SEE, WE LEFT EVERYTHING IN BLACK NUMBERS -- AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE LEFT EVERYTHING IN BLACK NUMBERS, IF IT'S RED MEANS IT WENT DOWN BY MORE THAN 1% AROUND IF IT'S GREEN IT WENT UP BY MORE THAN 1%.

THREE WHERE IT DECREASED FOR BLACK POPULATION TWO GAINED AND TWO LOST AND FOR OTHER, ONE GAINED AND NONE LOST.

AND FOR HISPANIC POPULATION ONE GAINED AND NONE LOST MORE THAN 1% ONE WAY OR AROUND. ANOTHER WHICH WEUSED AS A DEVIAR MAINTAINING RELATIVELY THE SAME. SO I KNOW THAT'S -- THIS QUESTION PROBABLY WOULD HAVE COME UP TODAY AND THERE'S YOUR ANSWER THERE ON THAT SHEET ABOUT WHAT THE CURRENT AND FORMER RACIAL MAKEUP OF YOUR WARD WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE.

SO WARD 1 AND THIS IS WHERE I'LL GO OVER THE INDIVIDUAL NUANCES THAT MADE UP WHAT EACH WARD LOOKS LIKE.

AGAIN THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

NONE OF THESE CHANGES WERE MADE IN A VACUUM, BY A INDIVIDUAL AT ONE TIME, TWO OR THREE WERE IN THE ROOM WHEN DISCUSSIONS WERE GOING ON IN ANY OF THESE CHANGES.

WARD 1 AGAIN I'LL GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE.

LET'S SEE. WARD 1 AT THE TIME WAS WITHIN TOLERANCE AT 2.8% OVER. A LOT OF THE CHANGES IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT I SAID, 5, 8 AND 12 HAD TO GIVE UP POPULATION.

SO EVERYONE ELSE IS A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT GOES THROUGH EVERY OTHER WARD WHEN THAT HAPPENS. WARD 1 HAD TO GIVE WARD 5 THE AIRPORT IN EXCHANGE FOR THE AREA OFF OF LADY MARION DRIVE OFF OF FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD. THE REASON WRART 5 HAD TO GIVE UP THE ENTIRE RINGGOLD ROADS AREA TO WARD 3.

THAT IS HOW MUCH POPULATION WARD 5 HAD TO GIVE UP.

EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ON CAN RINGGOLD ROAD.

THAT MOVE WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH BUT THERE WAS NO WAY TO COUNT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD LESS ON RINGGOLD ROAD.

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WE HAD TO DO AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THAN AT THE CITY.

TYPICALLY AT THE CITY IT WAS MORE EVEN, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS SIDE OF THE STREET FOR THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. SWAPPING OUT RINGGOLD ROAD TO MAKE THAT WORK. THERE WAS SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO SOME OF THE ON POST TERRITORY BETWEEN 3 AND 1 BUT A LOT OF IT WAS JUST SOME MINOR BARRACKS THAT GAVE THAT EXTRA 20 OR 30 PEOPLE THAT WOULD HELP BALANCE OUT BOTH 3 AND 2 -- NUMBER 1.

I'LL PAUSE AFTER EACH ONE OF THESE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WARD WE'RE ON AND AT THE END I'LL TAKE OVERALL QUESTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WARD 1 AT THIS TIME?

>> KEEP GOING. >> WE'LL MOVE ON TO WARD 2.

WARD 2 WE ROUND IT OUT ITS POPULATION AND AGAIN WARD 2 STARTED NEGATIVE 18%. SO THEY HAD TO MAKE UP 2500 PEOPLE IN WARD 2 AND THIS IS THE AREA NORTH OF DOVER ROAD.

AND WE ROUNDED IT OUT BY GIVING IT ALL OF DOVER ROAD TO FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD TO 424. I THINK IT'S A NICE AND NEAT BOUNDARY. IT GETS THAT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST OF DOTSON ROAD. THE POPULATION IT NEEDED TO GET UP THERE BUT THAT'S A VERY CLEARLY DELINEATED WARD AND REMEMBER IT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY CONCISE AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY LOGICAL WARD. IT'S 374, FORT CAMPBELL ROAD DOVER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT ONE ROAD.

DRASTIC CHANGE WHERE THE FORMER WARD WAS THERE.

BUT REALLY CONTIGUOUS AND MEETS THE POPULATION NEEDS GOING FORWARD. YES.

>> HANG ON A MINUTE. LET ME GET YOU.

OKAY YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> I'M SORRY.

I WANT TO WHEN YOU REMIND ME, YOU SAID WHEN YOU WERE DOING THESE YOU COULD NOT BREAK UP THE CENSUS BARK, CORRECT?

>> RIGHT. THE WAY WE WROTE IT HERE IS THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS, WE'RE GOING NUMERICALLY BUT WE STARTED WITH WARD 12 BECAUSE IT REQUIRED A MORE SHIFT, THAT WAS THE PEBBLE OR BOULDER IN THE LAKE THAT CAUSED ALL THE EFFECTS IN THE WARS SURROUNDING IT. WAS THERE A QUESTION?

>> KEEP GOING. >> WARD 3, UP THERE A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH ON FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD, NEEDED TO GIVE AREAS TO 2 AND 4 BUT IT ACQUIRED RINGGOLD NEIGHBORHOOD.

TWO NEEDED AGAIN TO MAKE UP THAT 2500 PEOPLE, 3 WAS UNDER LEAS TLASTTIME, UNDER 1800, IT NEEDEO MAKE UP A GOOD 10% OF POPULATION. 4 SOUTH NEEDED TO MAKE UP MORE, IT PUSHED NORTH, 3 GAINS RINGGOLD ROAD, NOW BALANCED BUT IT HAD A PRETTY DRASTIC SHIFT FROM SOUTH OF 374 TO NORTH OF 3 FOUR. 374.

WARD 4, THIS WAS OUR MOST UNDERREPRESENTED WARD GOING INTO THE CENSUS. IT WAS THE WARD THAT HAD TWO CENSUS TRACKS LOSE A COMBINED 450 PEOPLE AND THEY WERE BOTH ON THE NEW PROVIDENCE SIDE OF TOWN. NEEDED TO MAKE UP 2781 RESIDENTS AND NUMBER 4 ABSORBED THE REST OF NEW PROVIDENCE IN WHOLE AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD AND PEACHERS MILL ROAD IN 474. THERE WAS A PORTION OF NUMBER 6 THAT USED TO COME INTO NUMBER 4. THE FIRST EASIEST MOVE WAS TO GIVE THAT TO NUMBER 4 AND THEN IT STILL NEEDED 2,000 PEOPLE.

MOST OF THE BEL AIR SUBDIVISION AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE AREA TOWARDS BARGE FRONT ROAD. IT GAINED THE MOST OF ALL THE WARDS DUE TO ITS NEED FOR POPULATION.

>> WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WARD 4, COUNCILPERSON SMITH.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU SAID 4 WAS UNDERREPRESENTED BUT IT TOOK THE WHOLE PART OF NEW PROVIDENCE SO DID IT TAKE WHAT SIDE OR IS IT ON THE SAME SIDE?

>> TSO FORMERLY NUMBER 4 STOPPED AT BEL AIR BOULEVARD I GUESS IS THE ENTRANCE TO BEL AIR, THE SOUTH SIDE OF BEL AIR BOULEVARD WAS ITS FORMER STOPPING POINTS. IT NOW RAN ALL THE WAY UP TO 374

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>> THANK YOU. >> YOUR FORMER DISTRICT HAD A SMALL SECTION OF A STREETB STREET C STREET.

YOU STOPPED AT THE RED RIVER AND WE'LL GET TO YOU IN TWO SLIDES

HERE. >> OKAY.

>> GO AHEAD MR. TYNDALL. >> NUMBER 5.

ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD TO SEE SOME DRASTIC CHANGES.

5 WAS 30% OVER POPULATED, I SAY LOSE CITIZENS, SHED GIVE TO ANOTHER WARD. AND THIS WAS A TRICKY ONE BECAUSE YOU WERE BOUNDED BY RIVERS ON TWO SIDES.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE RINGGOLD NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT JUST HAPPENED THAT THAT MOSTLY WORKED OUT FOR NUMBER 5 AND THEN IT HAD TO GAIN BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT AND HENCE LADY MARION. THE REASON IT WENT TO NUMBER 1 BECAUSE IF WE KEPT LADY MARION THE SMALL SIDE OF THE PINK, IF THAT STAYED WITH NUMBER 5 IT WOULD BE GEOGRAPHICALLY SEPARATED FROM THE REST OF ITS WARD.

GO UP AND AROUND EITHER AROUND TINY TOWN OR UP TO THE WARD, SO THAT'S WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE BETWEEN 1 AND 5 TO SWAP THAT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE AREA AROUND THE AIRPORT.

OKAY. >> KEEP GOING.

>> THANK YOU. 6 NEEDED TO GAIN A BIT.

6 WAS 1900 FOLKS BELOW THE TARGET.

WARD 6 EXCHANGE THE AREA NORTH OF THE RED RIVER FOR MORE OF MADISON STREET AND SOILT OF THE BYPASS, NEW WARD 6.

A LOT CLEANER LINE. GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BYPASS, THE PREVIOUS LINE BETWEEN 7 AND 6 WAS A KIND OF JAGGED LINE WITH SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND DANIEL STREET AND RICHARDSON STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT PICKS UP THE AREA EAST OF THE TRACKS PORTER'S BLUFF ROAD AND A LITTLE BIT MORE LAND UP MADISON STREET.

>> KEEP ROLLING. >> WARD NUMBER 7 WAS ALSO UNDERREPRESENTED BY 1700 PEOPLE AND WARD 7 -- THAT IS A TRICKY ONE. IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A TAIL BETWEEN ITS LOWER PART AND UPPER PART.

WE WERE SHOWING YOU HOW THOSE CENSUS BLOCKS ARE REALLY FUNNY SHAPED. THAT CENSUS BLOCK PRETTY MUCH RUNS FROM HICKORY GROVE ALL THE WAY TO THE BYPASS.

IT IS EITHER AN ALL OR NOTHING SITUATION OUT THERE.

WE FELT IT WAS FINE THOUGH BECAUSE THE BYPASS IS THE LINE HERE. SO EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE BYPASS IS IN WARD 7 INCLUDING THE SUBDIVISION.

GAIN A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION IT GOT THAT BLOCK OF LAND ON MADISON AND MEMORIAL STREET TO BECOME COMPLIANT WITH THAT PLUS

OR MINUS 5%. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I'M HERE BY ANNO ANNOUNCING Y REELECTION CAMPAIGN, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER TERM.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHTY, OKAY, MR. ON

MR. TYNDALL. >> NUMBER 8 AWAY WAS 9.8% OVERPOPULATED. WARD 8 HAD TO GIVE UP THE AREAS NORTH OF I 24 AND THE TIMBER SPRING SUBDIVISION.

THIS WAS A RELATIVELY EASY SHIFT, 400 FOLKS LIVED IN THAT TRIANGLE AND ABOUT 650 IN TIMBER SPRINGS SUBDIVISION AND ABOUT TWO CLICKS AND WE WERE DONE WITH THIS ONE.

THAT WAS RELATIVELY EASY. BUT THAT SHOWS YOU IN SOME AREAS HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN JUST ONE BLOCK.

>> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> SO DOES -- SO IS IT TIMBER SPRINGS OR IS IT RIGHT THERE WHERE HAZELWOOD IS?

>> EVERYTHING IN YELLOW THAT WAS FORMERLY IN YOUR DISTRICT IT GOES DOWN HAZELWOOD AND GOES DOWN THERE IS A GAS PIPELINE THERE NEXT TO PISHKA ELEMENTARY. IT INCLUDES JUST TIMBER SPRINGS AND ANYONE WHO LIVES SOUTH OF HAZELWOOD.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY INDIVIDUAL HOUSES.

>> CROSS THAT BRIDGE UP, I HAVE ONE LITTLE, I ONLY HAVE ONE

LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS -- >> TRENTON ROAD?

>> AFTER THE INTERSTATE ON TRENTON ROAD.

I ONLY HAVE ONE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. >> JUST TO THE INTERSTATE?

>> YES, WEST OF TRENTON ROAD, SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE, HAZELWOOD THAT PIPELINE AND THE RIVER.

>> THEY WILL HAVE BIG MAPS FOR JUST THEIR WARDS OR THE ENTIRE

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CITY? >> BOTH.

>> BOTH, OKAY. >> THE WARD'S GOING TO BE BIG SO YOU ACTUALLY CAN READ THE STREET NAMES.

THE CITY YOU'LL NEED A MAGNIFYING GLASS.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE, PLEASE MEET ELIZABETH AND I AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A MAP. I SHOULD HAVE UNDER MY PRINTING

BUDGET THIS YEAR. >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH HAS A

QUESTION. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

50% WHITE AND THEN 37% BLACK. WHAT WAS THE POPULATION BEFORE

IN MY WARD? >> SURE.

IT'S THE COLUMN TO THE RIGHT OF THOSE NUMBERS.

SO THE PREVIOUS WARD 6 WHITE POPULATION WAS 47% SO IT WENT UN3%. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 39% BLACK NOW 37 BLACK DOWN 2%. THE OTHER POPULATION REMAINED THE SAME, HISPANIC POPULATION WENT DOWN FROM 10 TO 9%.

ALL WITHIN 1% EXCEPT FOR THE WHITE AND BLACK POPULATION MOVED

3% AND TWO O% RESPECTIVELY. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. PROPOSED MR. TYNDALL.

>> WARD 9 SO THE CLOSER WE GOT TO WARD 12 THE MORE DRASTIC THE CHANGES WERE. AND THEY JUST -- THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE DECIDED TO LIVE. WARD 9 NEEDED TO TAKE UP SOME OF THE AREA FROM WARD 11 BECAUSE AGAIN AS WE LOOKED AT THIS INITIALLY, AND THE SAME THING FOR THE COUNTY, WE WENT TO THE BIGGEST CHANGE FIRST. SO THE BIGGEST CHANGE HAD TO HAPPEN IN WARD 12 WHICH ACTUALLY LOST ABOUT HALF ITS LAND AREA.

SO THEN WE SAID OKAY WHO IS THE NEXT WARD UP WHO CAN ABSORB WHAT IS NOW UNASSIGNED LAND. IT WAS 11 AND 9.

11 TOOK THE BRUNT OF IT, 9 HAD TO ABSORB SOME THAT 11 HAD TO GIVE UP SO 11 HAD TO MOVE QUITE A BIT OVER AND BECAUSE 11 MOVED OVER 9 HAD TO ABSORB SOME OF 11'S POPULATION THAT WENT UP TRENTON ROAD. HENCE THE SITUATION WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN A FUTURE WARD TOGETHER. WARD 9 ALSO HAD TO TAKE SOME OF WARD 8'S POPULATION WHICH WAS OVER BY 5% SO IT KIND OF SERVED DUAL PURPOSE OF ABSORBING SOME OF THAT TIMBER SPRING POPPING.

8 COULDN'T TAKE IT BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY OVER POPULATION THEN 9 MOVED OVER TO THE NORTH INSTEAD OF THE EAST WHICH 11 ALSO MOVED TO THE NORTH. I GUESS THE OTHER THING WE SHOULD SAY IS IT LOST OLD RUSSELLVILLE PIKE AND 9 HAD A UNIQUE PORTION THAT USED TO GO, IT ACTUALLY SHOT OVER THE RIVER AND WAS A SMALL PORTION OF MADISON STREET WAS ALSO IN FORMER WARD 9 SO ALL OF 9 MOVED UP TO MAKE WAY FOR ALL THE OTHER MOVEMENT THAT IS GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.

IF YOU RECALL THAT FIRST MAP THOSE THREE IN THE NORTH HAD TO SHRINK AND THE REST HAD TO GROW AND THAT'S HOW IT ALL PUSHES AGAINST EACH OTHER GOING FORWARD.

NUMBER 10. NUMBER 10 NEEDED TO BACKFILL NUMBER 11 JUST LIKE 9 DID. NUMBER 10 MOVED UP WARFIELD BOULEVARD, NO OTHER WARD COULD HAVE TAKEN THE LARGE NEWSPAPER OFF OF DUNBAR CAVE ROAD. HENCE THAT AREA ALONG MEMORIAL AND MADISON STREET. THAT LIMB BLUE BLOCK YOU SAW OVER THERE. WE ARE TIDE TO UNFIND OTHER WAYS TO BALANCE THAT OUT, BUT MAKING UP FOR THE POPULATION DENSITY IN THAT BLOCK, 10 WOULD HAVE BECOME QUITE A LARGE DISTRICT BY TRYING TO GET ENOUGH POPULATION TO DO THAT.

IT ALREADY GAINED QUITE A FEW SQUARE MILES BY GETTING THE ADDITION OF DUNBAR CAVE ROAD, IT ALREADY HAD POWELL ROAD NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE ORIGINAL MAP.

FTC AND THEN WARD 11. SO WARD 11 PROBABLY SAW THE MOST DRASTIC SHIFT IN TERMS OF ITS CENTRALITY.

I THINK YOU'VE ALSO SEEN AS WE'VE SHOWED YOU THESE, WE TRIED TO KEEP SQUARE OR ROUNDED AMOEBA LIKE DISTRICTS, WRO WHEREAS A LF THEM WERE TALL AND SKINNY. THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ROUND OUT THESE DISTRICTS, NOT MUCH OF 11 IS STILL IN 11.

A BIT OF WILMA ROAD, A LOT OF THIS WAS FORMER WARD 12 IN THE SOUTH AREA. WARD 12 USED TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, LET'S SEE, ROSSVIEW ROAD AND THIS RIGHT HERE NUMBER

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THE SOUTH NOW BECOMES IT'S A TVA LINE THAT GOES DOWN MAGEE AND THEN DOWN PIKE TERMINAL DRIVE, NORTH OF TERMINAL DRIVE AND WILMA RUDOLPH BOULEVARD. IT IS ONE OF THOSE TRICKY ROADS THAT IF YOU DON'T STAY THAT TV AMP EASEMENT, THERE IS ABOUT 2,000 PEOPLE IN THERE AND IT'S ENOUGH TO THROW EVERYONE OUT OF BALANCE. THERE WAS NO PLACE AT THAT POINT TO BALANCE IT OUT WITH EVERYONE ELSE.

SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THAT IS A LOT OF HOURS OF WORK

RIGHT THERE PRESENTED TO Y'ALL. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU MR. TYNDALL, THANK YOU MS. BLACK TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE FOR THAT SOFTWARE THEY'VE GOT. IT'S ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING TO WATCH THEM MANIPULATE. YOU INSTANTLY GET A SENSE OF

WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE WARD. >> IT TELLS YOU THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE BALANCE, THE RACIAL MAKEUP, THE TOTAL POPULATION AND THE BALANCE FOR THOSE WARDS.

>> I WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE WHEN WE REDID IT IN 2010.

WE DID HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY AND SOFTWARE BUT IT IS PRIMITIVE COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW. SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL.

WE HAVE MAPS OF THE -- YOUR WARDS.

AND THE CITY. WE'RE GOING TO E-MAIL OUT VIA THE CLERK THIS PRESENTATION SO YOU'LL HAVE THOSE DETAILS AS WELL. WE'LL INVITE YOU TO CONTACT MR. TYNDALL'S OFFICE TO SET UP A TIME TO TALK TO HIM AND HIS STAFF AS WELL AS MS. BLACK. YOU DON'T GET OFF THAT EASY.

ABOUT YOUR WARD AND WHAT WENT INTO MAKING UP THE NEW WARDS AND

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

IT WAS A PLEASURE. YOU ONLY GET TO DO THIS EVERY TEN YEARS. I ACTUALLY WATCHED THE 2011 PRESENTATION THAT MY PRED SAYS MR. RIGGINS DID AT THE TIME.

IT WAS VERY INTERESTING. WE DID OUR HOMEWORK ON THIS.

YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE

MICROPHONE MS. BLACK. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS AT THIS POINT WE WOULD LIKE INPUT FROM YOU ALL.

WE WOULD LIKE IT CONCISE BEFORE WE CAN TAKE IN PUBLIC INPUT AS

WELL. >> WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN?

>> THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL CANNOT PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE COUNTY, THEIRS IS OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS OF MONDAY. THERE IS A WEEK PERIOD WHERE THE MAPS ARE ONLINE AND AT ELIZABETH'S OFFICE AT THE ELECTION COMMISSION FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE WRITTEN COMMENT. I THINK WE'RE TAKING E-MAIL AND HANDWRITTEN COMMENTS AT THE OFFICE.

I BELIEVE AFTER FIRST READING IF YOU WOULD WANT TO WE COULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LAY THESE OUT OR AT THE ELECTION COMMISSION FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW AND WE COULD PUT THEM ONLINE EASILY AT THE CITY. THE LAST TIME THE COUNTY DID IT THERE WAS ONLY ONE COMMENT OF SUBSTANCE.

SO IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC MORE TO GAIN A PERSPECTIVE BUT WE WILL PRESENT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THE LINES AND THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS. WHAT WE WILL DO AT THAT POINT IS BATCH THESE COMMENTS FOR YOU ALL PRIOR TO SECOND READING AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IF WE EVEN NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AND WHY OR

WHY NOT. >> OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE PUBLIC HAS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AND INPUT, MORE EDUCATION ON WHERE THE LINES ARE AND AREN'T.

>> AND THE REASON I SAID THAT IF THERE ARE SOME MANIPULATION THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE MAPS OUT THERE SO IF WE CAN PRESENT THEM ONE THAT EVERYONE HERE IS PLEASED WITH THAT WOULD KEEP

SOME CONFUSION DOWN. >> RIGHT, OKAY.

WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? (INAUDIBLE).

>> WITH WARDS 1 AND 5 REGARDING THEIR TERMS, AT THE NEXT

ELECTION. >> OKAY.

MS. BLACK YOU'RE UP. >> YOU'RE THE ELECTION

COMMISSIONER. >> SO THESE TAKE EFFECT AS YOU ARE ELECTED. SO WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, THE ELECTIONS ARE STAGGERED. SO THERE WILL BE A TWO YEAR GAP THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE A NEW REPRESENTATIVE.

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ONE WILL BE FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM BECAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT AND ONE WILL BE FULFILLING A TWO YEAR TERM.

BY SWAPPING THEM, I CAN'T REMEMBER, YOU OR THE FOUR YEAR

TERM -- >> WARD 1 IS THE FOUR YEAR, WARD

5 IS TWO. >> YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE RUNNING FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM IF YOU CHOOSE TO RUN AND YOU WILL BE RUNNING FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, AFFILIATING AN UNEXPIRED TERM.

AND THEN AFTER TWO YEARS. >> BY VIRTUE OF WHERE THEIR RESIDENCE IS AND HOW THE LINES ARE DRAWN.

>> IT IS. >> WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

WE WILL START WITH COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THE MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND CAN YOU REMIND ME, SO YOU WOULD LIKE US AS CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE OUR COMMENTS TO YOU BY WHEN, CAN YOU TELL ME THE DATES AGAIN?

>> IN AN IDEAL SITUATION WE GET A FIRST READING ON THIS NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. PRESENT IT NEXT WEEK AGAIN AS A FIRST READING WITH A RESOLUTION, NOT RESOLUTION, WITH THE ORDINANCE ATTACHED. AND THEN WE MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES BY THE SECOND READING. THAT WOULD KEEP IT ON TRACK TO MIMIC THE COUNTY'S ADOPTION OF THEIR DISTRICTS.

>> I RESPECT THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT THE MAPS OUT BUT I CAN'T REACH OUT TO MY CONSTITUENTS WITHOUT MAPS.

>> I WOULD SAY AS A FIRST READING THOSE MAPS WOULD BE SAFE TO SEND OUT. BARRING ANY CHANGES, I WOULD HOPE THERE'S NO CHANGES. I HOPE YOU ALL LOOK AT IT AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THE RATIONALE WAS BEHIND ALL THESE CHANGES.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME MINOR WIGGLE ROOM IF THERE WAS A LEGITIMATE REQUEST, THAT'S WHERE WE COULD ACCEPT SOMETHING, PRIOR TO FIRST

READING TO DO THAT. >> I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE BALANCE OF RACIAL, RACIAL BALANCE THERE WILL BE SOME REQUESTS AND I'M ANTICIPATING THAT.

>> AND I MEAN DON'T PUT THE MAPS OUT BUT AT THIS POINT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO -- I'M GATHERING COUNTY PUBLIC REVIEW RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO YOUR

CONSTITUENTS FINE. >> FOR ME RIGHT.

>> BUT FOR US TO HAVE THE OPEN PUBLIC PERIOD WOULD I WAIT UNTIL

YOU HAVE ALL HAVE -- >> AGREED ON YOUR PLAN.

>> YES, AGREED ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND THEN LET'S DO A FORMAL

PUBLIC INPUT. >> RIGHT.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO WARD 1 HAS TO RUN IN NOVEMBER, AND WARD

5 NOW, RIGHT? >> THEY BOTH HAVE TO RUN EITHER WAY BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH APPOINTED AT THIS POINT.

>> SO EITHER WAY WHEN THE NEXT ELECTION THEY HAD TO RUN, OKAY, I DIDN'T -- THAT WAS A LITTLE -- OKAY.

>> OKAY. >> I HAD SOMETHING.

JUST FROM A PRACTICALITY STANDPOINT AND A STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE BEST IF ANY COUNCILMEMBER HAS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED LINES, THAT YOU ACTUALLY GO AND MEET WITH MR. TYNDALL AND MS. BLACK BEFORE IN WHICH WEEK'S EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THURSDAY. I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO TWEAK SOME THINGS.

OBVIOUSLY THEY BELIEVE THEY GOT IT RIGHT BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK THAT THEY COULD BE TWEAKED AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, TWEAKS, AND THEN PRESENT THAT AT EXECUTIVE SESSION WELL -- YOU KNOW A WEEK AHEAD OF THE ACTUAL VOTE. SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON, IT CAN BE TALKED ABOUT AT EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF -- TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING.

SO THE EARLIER IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, THE EARLIER YOU CAN MEET WITH THEM PARTICULARLY BEFORE EXECUTIVE SESSION NEXT WEEK, THE BETTER IT WILL BE.

THAT'S NOT TO -- AND YOU CAN TECHNICALLY, YOU CAN AMEND ON FIRST READING. BUT IT'S VERY PROBLEMATICAL BECAUSE OF ALL THE FACTORS THAT GO INTO TRYING FRANKLY TO AVOID A LAWSUIT. IT'S DEMOGRAPHICS.

AND EQUAL POPULATION. AND SO IT'S -- IT'S STRONGLY INADVISABLE TO TRY TO OFFER AMENDMENTS EVEN THOUGH LEGALLY YOU CAN DO IT ON THE FLY ON THE FLOOR AT FIRST READING.

WHEN YOU HAVE NOT GONE AND TALKED TO MS. BLACK AND MR. TYNDALL ABOUT DESTINY TWEEKS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE.

BECAUSE ANY TWEAKS THAT GET MADE, IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT.

THEY'VE GOT TO FACTOR ALL THIS STUFF IN TO THE PROGRAM TO TRY TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT EQUAL REPRESENTATION, YOU GOT EQUAL DEMOGRAPHICS, OR THAT YOU'RE NOT SKEWING THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

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IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BRING IT UP BEFORE EXECUTIVE SESSION OR IF YOU WANT TO WAIT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO THEN YOU CAN GO AND TALK TO THEM BETWEEN FIRST READING AND EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR SECOND READING.

>> AND WOULD I INVITE YOU ALL TO COME DOWN TRULY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, JUST -- AND I WOULD INVITE YOU ALL TO COME DOWN TRULY DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, JUST SEE THE PROGRAM.

JEFF WOULD CALL YOU AND SAY I NEED TO PULL COUNTY DISTRICT 19, I KNEW I WAS ASKING HIM TO BUILD THE TITANIC.

BECAUSE I KNEW THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND IT AND WHAT WAVE IT WAS FIXING TO SEND BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE.

>> THAT AFFECTED THREE COUNTY DISTRICTS JUST THAT ONE MOVE

DOWN MERRYWEATHER. >> THAT ONE ROAD MAY ENCOMPASS 500 PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE CENSUS BLOCK IS.

SO IF WE CAN JUST SHOW YOU GUYS THAT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I THINK YOU WOULD FEEL BETTER TOO KNOWING THAT.

IT REALLY IS INTERESTING TO SEE IT.

>> WHY IT CAN OR CAN'T BE DONE AND WHY, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE BIG

SCREEN. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS YOU

STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. >> IS THERE A CENSUS BLOCK MAP OVERALL IN THIS PRESENTATION? DID YOU SHOW IT REAL QUICK?

I THINK YOU DID. >> WE SHOWED SOME EXAMPLES.

>> EXAMPLES, GOTCHA. >> THOSE WERE EXAMPLES WHAT CENSUS BLOCKS ARE LIKE, SOME ARE TINY, SOME ARE HUGE, WE HAVE ONE ON DUNLAP LANE THAT HAVE 1400 PEOPLE IN IT.

WHEN WE PULL OFF THE PROGRAM WE CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS AND AS WE CLICK EVERYTHING OVER, WE CAN CLICK ONE AT A TIME IT TURNS IT RED AND THEN ANOTHER WINDOW POPS UP AND IT SAYS THIS MANY PEOPLE THIS IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC AND THIS WOULD MAKE THIS MANY CHANGES, ALWAYS BETWEEN TWO DISTRICTS OR WARDS.

THIS CHANGE THIS WARD NEGATIVE AND THIS WARD POSITIVE AND CAN YOU SEE IT IN REALTIME. BEFORE YOU CLICK GO.

>> JUST FOR THE SAKE OF EDUCATION IS IT STATE LAW OR FEDERAL LAW THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT BREAK UP THE --

>> WE DON'T CREATE THE CENSUS TRACK SO WE CAN'T TOUCH THE

CENSUS BLOCK. >> WHO CHANGES THAT? I'M NOT QUESTIONING IT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK ME WHY.

>> THAT'S FEDERAL. >> I CANNOT BREAK IT UP, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE 500 PEOPLE LIVE. OR THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

>> PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING ME.

I ASKED THE QUESTION TO BE ANSWERING THAT.

JUST ALL. >> I WAS VERY NAIVE, WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS ME THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE ME A CENSUS BLOCK I WAS THINKING A LITTLE MORE UNIFORM PIECES AND THERE'S NOT UNIFORM PIECES. SO I LEARNED A LOT (INAUDIBLE) AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO MY.

I WANTED YOU GUYS TO SEE THAT. >> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE THE RESIDENTS. THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF DIGGING

INTO THE ASK. >> OKAY, COUNCILPERSON BUTLER,

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

SO AS THE RESIDENT NAYSAYER AND CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS SOON AS I SAY I'M GOING TO THE REDISTRICTING SESSION, EVERYONE'S LIKE THEY'RE OUT THERE GERRYMANDERING AGAIN. WOULD I SAY YES INDEED THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. HOWEVER I HAVE TO SAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT THE LINES ARE SO STRAIGHT OR SQUARED OFF OR CIRCLED OFF IF THEY'RE ON A RIVER OR WHATNOT.

AND WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING EVERYONE IS THAT ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE SHIFTING AROUND POPULATIONS TO MAKE AS STRAIGHT OF LINES AS POSSIBLE. AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU.

AND I'M GLAD I'M SITTING UP HERE AS THE PERSON LOSING HALF OF THEIR WARD. I'M TELLING YOU IT'S BETTER FOR ME AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND BETTER FOR THEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REPRESENTED THE WAY THEY COULD, BY TWO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF ONE PERSON. ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THIS WAS NOT AGEND GERRYMANDERED AND I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH FROM THE

BOTTOM OF MY HEART. >> I WILL SAY THAT TO YOU.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VOTERS.

AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME WE DON'T EVEN NOA WHERE THE VOTERS LIVE. THE VOTER DATA HAS NOT BEEN MERGED UNTIL WE GET TO COUNTY LINE.

THIS IS STRICTLY POPULATION AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME.

>> COUNCILPERSON EVANS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAD A QUESTION, LET ME FIRST SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

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WHEN WARD 11 IS UP FOR ELECTION NEXT YEAR, IS THERE GOING TO BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING LOCALLY AND JUST WANT TO JUMP INTO THINGS. AND THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY NO LONGER LIVE IN WARD 11. AND TO AVOID LIKE COMPLICATIONS WITH RESIDENCY ISSUES -- I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THAT INTO WORDS. I'M SORRY.

IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME INTRODUCTORY INFORMATIONAL LIKE IF SOMEONE TRIES TO APPLY, ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THEM THAT THEY

NO LONGER LIVE THERE? >> WHAT'S THE PROCESS ELIZABETH IF YOU DON'T MIND. IF YOU WILL STEP TO THE

MICROPHONE IF YOU DON'T -- >> CLOSELY RELY ON LIKE --

>> WE RELY ON THE ADDRESS GIVEN TO US.

FOR VOTING PURPOSES. IF SOMEONE MOVES AND DOESN'T GIVE US THEIR ADDRESS, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GO BY.

SO WHEN THEY COME IN AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON MY HOPE IS THAT YOU ALL WILL DO IT ALONG WITH THE COUNTY SO WHEN WE SIT AND CARVE OUT, THEY HAVE THE CORRECT CITY WARD ON THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE. BUT THEY WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION. OUR SYSTEM WILL BE UPDATED AND INTEGRATED WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION AND BASED ON THEIR

VOTING ADDRESS, WILL BE -- >> GOTCHA.

>> AS FAR AS RESIDENCY IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, THEY COULD --

>> I WAS TALKING ABOUT VOTING, WELL THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE

LIVING WHERE THEY'RE VOTING. >> CORRECT, THEY ARE, YES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE UPDATE ANY ADDRESSES IF YOU MOVE.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN YOU'RE NEXT,

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> SO THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY, I'VE BEEN GETTING TEXT MESSAGES, LIVE STREAM HAS NOT BEEN WORKING.

PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO VIEW THIS COUNCIL MEETING.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE, THE PRESENTATION, THE MAPS BEFORE WE COME TO EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE IT BEFORE THE FIRST TIME WE VOTE ON IT NOT THE SECOND TIME. SO IF WE COULD PUT THAT UP, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THEY CAN CONTACT US OR CONTACT YOU GUYS. I DO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE OVERWHELMED WITH THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ALL OF THIS IN VIEWING IT. THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH

THE LIVE STREAM. >> WE'LL MAKE SURE IT IS.

>> WE'LL SEND OVER THE MAPS, WORK WITH I.T. ON WHERE WE CAN PUT THEM. THEY CAN DO PAGE ON THE CITY WEBSITE OR SOMETHING. WE'LL WORK A WAY THAT THEY CAN BE PUT OUT THAT WAY AND I THINK AGAIN ELIZABETH WAS SAYING WE WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO TAKE YOUR CRACK FIRST BEFORE WE REALLY PUSH THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IF THERE IS A CHANGE I DON'T NEED TWO VERSIONS OUT THERE OF PEOPLE ARGUING OVER ONE OR THE OTHER. I'D RATHER SAY, HERE IS THE PROPOSED PLAN TO COMMENT ON. IF YOU WENT OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS WITH YOURS AND PRESENTED IT --

>> MINE WOULD BE VERY EASY. I'M LOSING TWO OF MY OUTLIAR COMMUNITIES. HOWEVER, THOSE SAME TWO OUTLIER COMMUNITIES, MAY FEEL THE SCALE WAY.

I'M MOVING TO WARD 9 AND I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HER.

NOT THAT IT WOULD CHANGE ANY VOTE BUT I WANT TO HEAR THOSE CONCERNS FROM MY CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I GO BY.

THAT'S WHY I SAY WE NEED TO GET IT OUT BEFORE FIRST READING.

>> WE'LL COME UP WITH A SCENARIO.

>> WE'LL ADDRESS IT. COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU'RE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU MAYOR.

>> TALK CLOSER TO YOUR MIC PLEASE.

>> WITH MY LITTLE DAUGHTER, USED TO PLAY AT MY HOUSE YEARS AGO.

WITH MY DAUGHTER, AND THANK YOU MR. TYNDALL, YOU DO A GOOD JOB.

MY QUESTION IS SIMPLE. HOW ACCURATE ARE THE NUMBERS ON THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE GAINING OR LOSING? HOW ACCURATE ARE THE NUMBERS? THAT WE ARE PRESENTING?

>> IT'S BASED ON THE CENSUS DATA.

SO WE -- WE CAN'T MANIPULATE THOSE NUMBERS.

>> I HAD A SPREADSHEET ON THE BLOCKS AND I TOOK THE NUMBERS AND TOTALED THEM UP AND IT TOTALS UP TO 166,722, IT ALL

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GIVEN THE CITY. >> AND THESE ARE VOTERS RIGHT?

>> NOT VOTERS, JUST POPULATION. >> WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE

VOTERS. >> WE HAVEN'T DONEFULLY VOTER

ANYTHING YET. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

JUST THE CENSUS -- >> HOW THE CENSUS WAS FILLED OUT

BY THE RESIDENTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS YOU'RE

RECOGNIZED. >> THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A COUNTY ISSUE BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE.

THIS YEAR WHEN WE'RE VOTING, IN THE PAST YOU AND I MS. BLACK HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET CONFUSED. ARE WE CONSIDERING HAVING LIKE SOME SUPERCENTERS ON ELECTION DAY, I KNOW WE DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE IT ONLY FOR EARLY VOTING. BUT IS IT SOMETHING YOU ARE WORKING ON, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY A GREAT SERVICE IN MAIZE AND IN OUR ELECTIONS THIS FIRST YEAR CAN IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THAT DONE WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE ONE BALLOT THAT

DOESN'T COUNT THAT DAY? >> THE PROVISIONAL?

>> THANK YOU, PROVISIONAL, YOU CAN DO A OARE B.

>> SO WE CAN'T HAVE SUPERSITES. WITH THE WAY STATE LAW CURRENTLY IS WE HAVE TO HAVE SECOND EARLY -- MULTIPLE EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS BEFORE WE CAN ASK THE STATE IF WE CAN DO THAT.

SO I HAVEN'T PUT THIS OUT PUBLICLY YET.

>> YOU'RE GETTING READY TO. >> BUT MY INTENTION, INTENTION IS TO TRY HAVE A SECOND EARLY VOTING SITE COME AUGUST OF NEXT

YEAR. >> NEXT YEAR NOT THIS YEAR

THOUGH. >> WELL WE DON'T HAVE AN

ELECTION THIS YEAR. >> I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

MY TIME LINE. THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY IN THIS YEAR THIS ELECTION.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON EVANS YOU'RE

RECOGNIZED. >> MY QUESTION ESCAPED ME.

I'M SO SORRY. >> PUSH THE BUTTON AGAIN IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. COUNCILPERSON BUT HER.

>> IS IT CONTAGIOUS? >> I'M SO SORRY.

>> LET HER GO. >> COUNCILPERSONNENCE.

>> OKAY MY QUESTION I'M SORRY IF YOU GUYS ALREADY ANSWERED, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON RIGHT SO IF AND WHEN THIS THING PASSES ON FIRST RIDING, IF AND WHEN ELECTION, IF SOMEBODY WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, IT WOULD BE --

>> IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1.

AND BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU HAD SOMEONE WHO HAD TO BE REPLACED ON THE COUNCIL AND THAT MEANTIME THERE WOULDN'T BE A SPECIAL

ELECTION UNTIL AFTER JANUARY 1. >> RIGHT.

>> BETWEEN THE PERT OF JANUARY 1 OR THE NEXT ELECTION, THERE IS A PERIOD OF LIMBO OR P P PERGATOR, THERE COULD BE PERIODS WHERE I DON'T THINK IT'S SET UP THIS WAY WHERE YOU HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES IN THE SAME WARD AT THE SAME TIME UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION AS WELL. NOT THIS FIRST ROUND IN 2022 BUT THE 2024, THAT'S WHEN IT ALL KIND OF CLEANS BACK UP AGAIN, UNTIL WE DO THIS AGAIN IN 2031. THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY DO IT'S A ONE STOP SHOP AND EVERYONE IS DONE AT ONE TIME IN AUGUST IT ALL CLEANS UP AT ONE TIME AND EVERYONE REPRESENTS THEIR NEW DISTRICTS. THERE IS NO OVERLAP.

THERE IS A SLIGHT OVERLAP HERE WITH THE FIVE WHO WON'T BE RUNNING THIS COMING NOVEMBER OR NEXT YEAR.

>> AND THE SCHOOL BOARD RUNS THE STAGGERED TERM.

IT WON'T BE JUST YOU GUYS THAT WILL HAVE THE OVERALAP, THE

DELAY IN THAT. >> SO JANUARY 1.

>> GOOD EXAMPLE, COUNCILMEMBER BUTLER WILL BE REPRESENTING WARD 11 THROUGH HER NEXT ELECTION BECAUSE SHE'S STILL IN CURRENT WARD 12. WHEN A NEW WARD 12 REPRESENTATIVE IN THERE I BELIEVE THEN YOU BOTH WOULD BE REPRESENTING YOUR CURRENT CONSTITUENCIES.

BUT UNTIL THAT IN LACK OF A WARD 11 FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA, SHE IS STILL REPRESENTING THAT AREA. DOES THAT MAKE SOME SENSE? YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET A LOT MORE PHONE CALLS IN THAT YEAR NO. YOU ALL FIGURE IT OUT. WITH RAPID GROWTH, THESE THINGS, DUE TO THE GROWTH THE LAST TEN YEARS.

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>> THANK YOU GUYS. >> COUNCILPERSON REDD YOU'RE

RECOGNIZED. >> DID I HEAR THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WOULD BE THURSDAY OF NEXT WEEK?

>> NO. >> DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING? FOR FIRST READING?

>> FIRST READING WILL BE REGULAR SESSION NOVEMBER.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. DO YOU REMEMBER YOUR QUESTION?

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. ACTUALLY KIND OF ON TO WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID. SO WE'RE KIND OF GETTING JUMPY ABOUT NOT HAVING TIME TO TELL OUR CONSTITUENCIES ABOUT THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S PRETTY TYPICA TYPICAL FOR O RUN INTO THINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR EXECUTIVE THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT. THEN WE HAVE THE WEEK BETWEEN VOTING TO TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENCIES AND ON TOP OF THAT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN ADDITIONAL LIKE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD CORRECT? SO I JUST WANTED TO MAYBE KIND OF ASSUAGE YOUR CONCERNS THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE AN AMOUNT OF TIME TO ADDRESS THIS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE WOULD BE WILLING TO BLOCK OUT WITH ELIZABETH'S OFFICE A ONE OR TWO WEEK PERIOD BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING SO THAT THERE WAS AMPLE TIME THE GET THOSE COMMENTS IN, BATCH THEM UP AND GET THEM OUT TO YOU. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ASK FOR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TWO DAYS LATER HERE AND TRY TO RUSH THIS THROUGH. WE'LL TAKE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BUT WITH THE END STAGE OF TRYING TO GET THIS DONE BY SOMETIME END OF DECEMBER SO VOTER MAIL OUT CARD CAN HAPPEN SOMETIME IN

JANUARY. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW THIS BRUT I DON'T. CAN WE ONLY DO THIS ONCE EVERY TEN YEARS? BECAUSE THE GROWTH IN SOME OF OUR AREAS WAS SO DIFFERENT, I WAS WONDERING IF -- SO YOU ALREADY ANSWERED MY QUESTION. SO IF WE HAVE A LOPSIDED GROWTH WE CAN REDO THIS BUT ALWAYS BASED ON ON THE SAME CENSUS

NUMBERS RIGHT? >> YES.

ARTICLE 2 SECTION 1 SUBSECTION B YOU CAN DO IT AT ANY TIME BUT ANY TIME YOU DO IT, IT HAS TO BE BASED ON THE LATEST FEDERAL

CENSUS NUMBERS. >> SO NO MATTER WHAT OUR GROWTH IS WE CAN'T ADDRESS IT FOR TEN YEARS?

>> LET ME ASK BEFORE IF POSSIBLE.

IF WE HOLD A SPECIAL CENSUS OF A PORTION OF THE CITY OR A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT BECOMES PART OF THE FEDERAL CENSUS THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHAT GROWTH MIGHT DO TO

AN AREA. >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU, YES IT'S EXPENSIVE. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> IT'S OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MS. BLACK THANK YOU MR. TYNDALL ALL OF YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS AND ALSO ALL THE

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