Mar 03, 2022 City Council

THANK YOU, MR. ADCOK, FOR THROWING YOURSELF OUT THERE.

WE KNOW HOW THAT IS. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THIS NEWLY REDISTRICTED WARD 11, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT IT ENCOMPASSES A LARGE HALF OF WHAE VOTED FOR ME IN MY ELECTION, THE SOUTH PORTION OF WHAT USED TO BE WARD 12. SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU, HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING OUR MEETINGS? ARE YOU UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S

GOING ON UP HERE? >> I HAVE SEEN SOME.

>> OKAY. AND WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE ARE FACING RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY?

>> THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE ARE FACING RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY -- I WOULD SAY -- PROBABLY THE REDISTRICTING, I

WOULD IMAGINE. >> DID YOU CONSIDER RUNNING FOR -- I GUESS -- WELL, IT WOULDN'T BE THIS PARTICULAR 11, BUT DID YOU CONSIDER RUNNING IN 2020?

>> I DID BUT I HAD ONLY BEEN IN THE WARD ABOUT A YEAR AND A

HALF. >> OKAY.

AND THEN DO YOU INTEND TO RUN THIS YEAR?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND.

>> THANK YOU, MR. ADCOK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. I'M ALWAYS EXCITED TO SEE LEADERS AND ENTREPRENEURS, ESPECIALLY FOR A ROLE LIKE THIS.

IT CALLS FOR A PLETHORA OF SKILL SETS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED COMING ON TO THE COUNCIL IS I FELT LIKE IT WAS A DUAL ROLE. IT WAS MACRO AND MICRO.

BIG PICTURE, LITTLE PICTURE. COULD YOU SHARE WITH US, PERHAPS, A VISION POUR SOMETHING YOU CAN SEE.

YOU OBVIOUSLY ANSWERED PREVIOUS SPEAKER'S QUESTION ABOUT THE WARD INVOLVEMENT. COULD YOU SEE WHAT YOU SEE OF WARD 12 YOU WOULD LIKE TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE ON.

>> YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CLARKSVILLE EXPAND ITS ROADS.

I BELIEVE ROADS BRING IN INDUSTRY AND I BELIEVE SMALL BUSINESS IS THE BACKBONE AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT -- THE WAY NASHVILLE HAS GROWN IS BECAUSE OF THE ROADS.

I JUST BELIEVE WE NEED TO DRAW MORE SMALL BUSINESS HERE TO

CLARKSVILLE. >> AND HA WOULD YOU SAY MAYBE YOUR TOP THREE PASSION ZONES OR PASSION AREAS THAT YOU LOVE TO

JUST -- >> WELL, WE WOULD ALSO -- I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GET IN WITH THE YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AS WELL AS WITH THE ORGANIZATION SUCH AS MANA CAFE AND THINGS THOSE, WE WOULD NEED TO GET INVOLVED WITH

THOSE AS WELL. >> OKAY, SO WHAT I GLEAN FROM THAT, ENTREPRENEUR, SMALL BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS SECTOR,

OUR YOUTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. ADCOK, THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. ADCOK, SEEING NONE, THANK YOU. NEXT ON MY LIST IS MR. RON LANFIRE, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FIVE

MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS RON LANFIRE, 200 SOUTH HAMPTON PLACE, APARTMENT 4102.

AND JUST -- I TAUGHT INTERVIEWING.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST INTIMIDATING HIRING BOARD I HAVE EVER SEEN. AND I CAME TO CLARKSVILLE IN

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1991. I JUST LEFT DESERT STORM AND AFTER 24 YEARS IN THE ARMY. I SERVED THREE TOURS IN VIETNAM.

WHILE IN THE ARMY, I ACQUIRED ASSOCIATE'S AND BACHELOR'S AND MASTER'S DEGREE. AFTER I GOT OUT OF THE ARMY, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE I HAD GROWN UP IN MICHIGAN AND IN MICHIGAN, EVERYBODY HAD LEFT. SO I STAYED HERE AND I GOT A JOB EVENTUALLY WITH WORKFORCE ESSENTIALS.

WITH WORKFORCE ESSENTIALS, I OVERSAW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAREER CENTER NEXT TO THE LIBRARY.

THEY HAVE SINCE MOVED. AND THEN I MANAGED THAT FOR A YEAR. THEN I DID CONSULTING WORK AND WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP LEARNING ACADEMY WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE TITLE FOR A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.

WE HELP DEVELOP PROGRAMS ON FORT CAMPBELL TO ASSIST MILITARY PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLUNTARILY SEPARATED TO FIND BETTER EMPLOYMENT AND WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE MONIES FOR TRAINING AND INCREASE THEIR HIRING POTENTIAL ABOUT 100 PERCENT IN SOME CASES.

FROM 20 TO 40 TO 50 THOUSAND DOLLARS BY GOING THROUGH A FAIRLY SHORT TRAINING PERIOD TO HELP THEM GET BETTER.

I HAVE SINCE, EVEN WORKED AS A BUS DRIVER WHICH I CAN ATTEST TO YOU IS THE MOST STRESSFUL JOB YOU CAN EVER HAVE, DRIVING 80 CHILDREN AND TRYING TO KEEP THE BUS ON THE ROAD AND MAINTAINING ORDER INSIDE. BUT I ALSO, IN VOLUNTEER WORK, I SPEND ABOUT 1800 HOURS A YEAR SERVING WITH THE RED CROSS.

I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS AND I'M CURRENTLY THE TRAINING LEAD FOR TENNESSEE. I ALSO COOKED AT LOAVES AND FISHES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I HAD TO STOP, I HAD SOME SURGERY AND SO I STOPPED DOING THAT.

I'M CURRENTLY IN THE LEADERSHIP CLARKSVILLE CLASS OF 202, WE 2022, ANDWE WILL BE THE BEST CLO MATTER WHAT SOME OF YOU MAY SAY.

IN THERE I WAS -- THAT'S WHERE I'M DRESSED LIKE THIS, I DIDN'T BRING A RESUME AND I TAUGHT RESUMES.

BUT I AM FURNISH YOU ONE AND IT WILL LOOK REALLY GOOD.

BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I HAVE DONE.

I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

SPEAK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. LANFIRE.

>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR BIO AEN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THIS CITY. I WANT TO ASK YOU SAME QUESTION.

WHAT DOES AN UNSTABLE COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE FOR YOU.

>> GIVEN MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE BEEN IN YOU UNSTABLE COMMUNITI.

WAR IS AN UNSTABLE COMMUNITY. WHEN THERE'S A LACK OF RESPECT OR GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT TREATED FAIRLY OR TREATED IN A WAY THAT IS UNFAIR, I THINK THAT LAW AND ORDER HAS TO BE PART OF THAT BUT I THINK THAT HAS TO BE APPLIED FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY TO ALL PEOPLE. I THINK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN ECONOMY THAT DOESN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO ADVANCE, AND I HAVE SEEN THAT, I HAVE SEEN TERRIBLY UNSTABLE, BEYOND ANYTHING IN THE UNITED STATES, VIETNAM, DESERT STORM, THOSE PLACES, BUT I THINK IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK IT IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE TREATED FAIRLY, EQUITABLY AND EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO ADVANCE AT THEIR OWN MERIT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? >> YOU MEANT TO SAY UNFAIRLY OR

FAIRLY? >> TREATED FAIRLY AND THEY HAVE

AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE. >> THAT'S AN UNSTABLE COMMUNITY?

>> I THINK THAT'S REALLY -- NOW, IN THE CONTEXT OF LAW AND ORDER, IF YOU HAVE ANARCHY, THAT'S AN UNSTABLE COMMUNITY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

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>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT EQUITY STATEMENT AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, AS PART OF LEADERSHIP CLARKSVILLE, WE ARE DELVING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW AS A CITY COUNCIL PERSON, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU WILL FOCUS? LIKE EVERYONE KNOWS I'M ABOUT INFILL AND SIDEWALKS. BUT WHERE DO YOU THINK -- WHERE

IS YOUR PASSION? >> WELL, A COUPLE THINGS, ONE OF THEM, AND I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT, I THINK THAT CLARKSVILLE IS REALLY AT A TURNING POINT WHERE THEY CAN BECOME A A VIABLE, REAL SELF-CONTAINED CITY.

AND PART OF THAT IS TO DEVELOP AN IDENTITY.

WHAT IS CLARKSVILLE FOR? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW? NASHVILLE IS MUSIC CITY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

BUT ALSO WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S TAKING PLACE, I THINK INFRASTRUCTURE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THE GROWTH HAS BEEN SO DRAMATIC, WE HAVE LOST A LITTLE BIT -- LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADDITION.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT TODAY. AND I THINK THAT WITH THAT GROWTH AND THE RISE IN THE COST OF LIVING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, ALTHOUGH WE ARE VERY COMPETITIVE IN THAT AREA, I THINK THAT THERE'S A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND I'M KIND OF REPRESENTED HERE BY THAT, WHO ARE RETIRED MILITARY FAMILY, WHICH THE MILITARY REALLY COMPRISES A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE IN CLARKSVILLE, AND I WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE PASSIONATE ABOUT REPRESENTING THEM IN SOME WAY THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE SQUEEZED OUT ECONOMICALLY BY THIS GROWTH AND THE INFLATION RATE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THEY ARE ON FIXED INCOMES, MANY OF THEM.

SO THAT'S AN AREA THAT I WOULD BE.

NOW, IN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, ABOUT THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT I HAVE A BROTHER WHO IS GAY AND I HAVE A GRANDSON WHO IS TRANSITIONING RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK THAT THEIR VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD BECAUSE I STILL THINK THAT, IN THE SOUTH, THERE MAY BE A HIGHER RESISTANCE TO ACCEPTANCE THERE. AND SO THAT'S -- DOES THAT

ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> UH-HUH, THANK YOU.

>> AGAIN TONIGHT, JUST REPEAT, REPEAT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN HERE. I APPRECIATED EVERYTHING YOU HAD TO SAY. I WONDER, DID YOU CONSIDER

RUNNING IN 2020? >> I DID NOT.

>> AND DO YOU PLAN TO RUN THIS YEAR?

>> IF I AM APPOINTED -- I'M 73. AND I HAVE LOTS OF INTERESTS AND STUFF. THAT DEPENDS ON HOW WELL I DO THE JOB AND IF THERE'S SOME EFFORT TO HAVE ME RUN.

I KNOW THAT THAT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT. TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY.

IF I WAS TO RUN, I WOULD PUT IN DOOR TO DOOR AND DOING ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND STUFF THAT YOU NEED TO DO.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T REALLY SAY THAT I WOULD BUT PROBABLY I'M JUST HERE TO FULFILL THIS -- UNTIL THE

ELECTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD.

THANKS SO MUCH, SIR. >> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MR. RON LANFIRE.

>> MR. RON, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL ME ON THE SCHOOL BUS.

>> THANK YOU FOR BOTH SERVICES, BOTH IN YOUR MILITARY CAREER AND ON THE SCHOOL BUS. I DIDN'T CATCH -- I CAUGHT A GREAT DEAL OF YOUR LEADERSHIP EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE.

COULD YOU BRING ME US UP TO SPEED ON WHAT CURRENTLY OCCUPIES

YOUR LEADERSHIP DAYS. >> WITH THE RED CROSS, I'M THE TRAINING LEAD FOR TENNESSEE. THAT INCLUDES ALL OF TENNESSEE.

WITH THAT, I SET UP AGENDAS AND CURRICULUMS. I TEACH CLASSES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

LEADERSHIP IS A PET PROJECT OF MINE.

I DO LEADERSHIP TRAINING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

WITH MY CHURCH, I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT CALLING.

I'M WITH THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST LATTER DAY SAINTS, IN

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THAT CHURCH, WE DON'T HAVE PAID PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE CALLING AND I HAVE SERVED AS A STATE CLERK, WHICH COVERS 12 CHURCHES AND MANY DIFFERENT OTHER TEAMS OF

LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> HELLO, SIR. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?

>> I AM FINE. LITTLE BIT NERVOUS.

>> DON'T BE. >> THIS IS KIND OF NERVOUS.

>> YOU BETTER BE NERVOUS IF YOU GET UP HERE, THAT'S THE NERVOUS.

ALL RIGHT. SO JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, NO, 2022 WILL NOT BE

THE CLASS BECAUSE 2016 WAS. >> STHEIS THAT RIGHT RIGHT?

OKAY. >> MY ONLY QUESTION, A FOLLOWUP QUESTION TO SOMETHING I HEARD YOU SAY.

YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR CHURCH AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. SO WHERE DO YOU STAND AS IT PERTAINS TO SITTING UP HERE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO INSTILL. YOU ARE PICKING A VERY SHORT-TERM AND YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO LATER. YOU ARE GOING TO SEE HOW YOU DO.

YOU ONLY HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF LEFT TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

WHY TAKE THIS STEP NOW AFTER EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED?

>> WELL, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, I BELIEVE THAT IN RECEIVING INSPIRATION, REVELATION, I FEEL THE LORD SAID, AT LEAST GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

I BELIEVE THAT I HAVE SOME REAL INSIGHTS AND TALENTS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP, DIRECTION.

I THINK THAT A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, THE RETIRED MILITARY AND THE ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY, I CAN VERY WELL REPRESENT THAT AND I HAVE COME TO LOVE THIS CITY. I THINK THAT IT HAS A CAPACITY TO BECOME A REALLY GREAT CITY BECAUSE OF THE -- WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE ENERGY AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THAT.

>> I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE COUNCILPERSON PRIORITY TO YOU, THAT WAS ELECTED BY HER WARD, SHE WAS VERY IN TUNE WITH COMMUNITY. AND SHE LOVED EVERYBODY.

I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE THE SAME WAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. LANFIRE?

THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, AND IF YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU A RESUME, I CAN DO THAT.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT IF YOU WOULD.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

COUNTY CLERK, IF WE COULD PUT THE TIMER ON THE SCREEN WHEN THEY COME UP, THAT WAY THEY WILL KNOW AND WE WILL KNOW.

>> POINT OF INFORMATION. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> MAYOR, I'M SORRY, MAYBE MR. BAKER SAID IT AND I DIDN'T HEAR IT. THE PERSON THAT WE ELECT, THAT WE SELECT WILL HAVE TO RUN IN NOVEMBER, IS THAT CORRECT?

I'M NOT SURE I -- >> THEY DON'T HAVE TO RUN.

>> I THOUGHT THEY WOULD HAVE TO AT THE NEXT CITY ELECTION.

>> BUT THEIR TERM WOULD END AND THEY WOULD --

>> OKAY, EXCUSE ME. NOT HAVE TO.

EXCUSE ME. WRONG WORD.

THE SEAT WILL BE OPEN FOR ELECTION IN THIS NOVEMBER.

>> YES. AND NEXT WEEK, I THINK I NEED TO PROBABLY GIVE YA'LL SOME ADVICE ABOUT THIS WHOLE SITUATION.

THAT STEMS FROM THE LANGUAGE USED IN THE CHARTER AND IN THE CITY CODE SECTION FOR FILLING VACANCIES WHICH IS BASED OFF THE REQUIREMENTS FOUND IN THE CHARTER.

AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE GOING ON.

I'M STILL DOING SOME RESEARCH ON AND I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TO ATTORNEYS AT THE STATE ELECTION COMMISSION.

I HAVE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ELIZABETH BLACK ABOUT IT.

IT LOOKS TO ME, THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, IS THAT WHOEVER IS APPOINTED CAN ONLY SERVE UNTIL THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION AND NOT FOR THE FULL LENGTH OF THE EXPIRATION OF THE TERM OF WARD 11. I REASON I SAY THIS, THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER AND CODE SAY. UNTIL NEXT ELECTION.

THE NEXT ELECTION IS NOVEMBER. BUT THE TERM FOR WARD 11 DOES

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NOT EXPIRE ACTUALLY UNTIL THE LAST DAY OF DECEMBER.

AND SO WHAT MAY HAVE TO HAPPEN, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S STILL BEING LOOKED AT AND RESEARCHED FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, WE MAY HAVE -- THE CONSTITUTION MAY HAVE AN OUT.

FROM WHAT I HAVE LOOKED AT, I DON'T THINK IT DOES.

WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT IT. SO GIVEN THE LANGUAGE, WHAT MAY HAVE TO HAPPEN IS SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO RUN IN NOVEMBER TO FILL THE TWO MONTHS OF THE UNEXPIRED TERM, AND THEN THE SAME PERSON OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL ALSO RUN FOR THE NEW TERM THAT STARTS

JANUARY 1ST. >> BUT WHEN -- THAT WHEN SHE CAME IN, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

AND SHE -- >> YOU ARE RIGHT.

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY. >> COUNCILPERSON EVANS KNEW SHE WOULD HAVE TO RUN IN NOVEMBER EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T --

>> IT MAY BE THAT THINGS WERE DONE WRONG AND IT MAY BE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN DONE WRONG THE PREVIOUS TWO TIMES THAT I RECALL. AND BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFIC WORDING -- AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S EASY FIXABLE, UNLESS THAT CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION IS GOING TO HELP US OUT. AND IT MAY.

WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT IT. BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FIXED BY THE COUNCIL ALONE BY SIMPLY AMENDING THE CITY CODE.

THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THE CITY CODE MIRRORS LANGUAGE IN

THE CHARTER. >> BUT EVERYBODY WHO HAS THEIR NAME IN -- THE SEAT WILL BE OPEN FOR ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, NO

MATTER WHAT, RIGHT? >> YES.

>> THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO BE APPOINTED UNTIL THE NOVEMBER

ELECTION. >> THE LEGAL ISSUE IS, ONCE SOMEONE IS APPOINTED. DO THEY SERVE THE FULL UNEXPIRED TERM THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER? OR DO THEY JUST SERVE UNTIL THE NOVEMBER ELECTION? THEN IF THEY GET ELECTED, THEIR ELECTION CAN ONLY BE FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM UNLESS THEY ARE ON THE BALLOT TWICE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE UNEXPIRED TERM THAT SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO GET ELECTED TO. BUT THEN BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STERTERMS ARE STAGGERED, NEW TEM STARTING FOR WARD 11 JANUARY 1ST. I'M SORRY TO DUMP THIS ALL ON YOU. I WILL HAVE A HANDOUT FOR YOU NEXT WEEK POINTING OUT THE SPECIFIC LEGAL PROVISIONS TO INCLUDE THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION AND I HOPE TO -- I HOPE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION.

>> THE INTENT -- THE INTENT IS OBVIOUS.

IF YOU READ IT, YOU CAN SEE THE INTENT.

>> WELL, THE INTENT, FRANKLY, NO MATTER WHAT THE INTENT IS OR IS NOT, YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE EXPRESSED PROVISIONS OF THE LANGUAGE. IT SAYS THEY SERVE UNTIL NEXT GENERAL ELECTION. THE QUESTION, MISS BLACK AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, INSTEAD OF HAVING WORD 1 WARD 11 LITERAY TWICE IN NOVEMBER. THE FIRST PART, YOU ARE BEING ELECTED TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM, ABOUT TWO MONTHS, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. AND THEN WARD 11 WOULD BE ON IT AGAIN FOR THE NEW TERM STARTING JANUARY 1ST.

WELL, THAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE CONFUSING TO PEOPLE.

SO COULD WE, INSTEAD, ADD A WARD 11 ELECTION TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM IN AUGUST. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT.

IF WE CAN DO IT, WE COULD CERTAINLY WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO PITCH IN A BUNCH OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY HAVING AN ELECTION. AND THEN IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT THAT WAY IN AUGUST, SINCE THEY ARE ALREADY HAVING AN ELECTION, THEN IN NOVEMBER THAT ELECTION, THE WARD 11 SEAT WOULD BE ON THERE JUST ONE TIME AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE NEW TERM

THAT STARTS JANUARY 1ST. >> HANG ON A MINUTE, MR. BAKER.

WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. >> I REALLY LIKE TO JUST SIT

DOWN. >> YOU HAVE OPENED THIS CAN OF WORMS. YOU ARE GOING TO EAT IT.

COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> SO WE HAVE DONE THIS -- THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD APPOINTMENT. SO THAT MEANS ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE APPOINTED HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME

THING? >> THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT.

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AND I MADE MISTAKES, I COULD BE WRONG.

I DON'T THINK I AM, UNFORTUNATELY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE. >> IT DOES SAY GENERAL ELECTION.

>> IT SAYS GENERAL ELECTION. IT DOES NOT SAY WHEN THEY ARE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL THEY SERVE FOR UNEXPIRED TERM.

IT DOES NOT SAY THAT. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT -- THIS BY THE WAY HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS IN THE CHARTER, PROBABLY, I BELIEVE, IT GOES BACK TO 1919, MAYBE EVEN 1875, THAT PROVISION, I DO NOT BELIEVE, THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE USED, I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN CHANGED.

AND -- >> LET'S JUST PRETEND WE DON'T

KNOW. >> I HEAR YOU.

>> DO I HEAR A SECOND? >> THE P POLICY REASON BEHIND IT IS IT IS -- THE COUNCIL CHOOSING WHO IS GOING TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE AND A WARD, THAT'S A STOPGAP MEASURE.

AND THE PEOPLE OF THAT WARD SHOULD BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND THAT WOULD MEAN NOT UNTIL THE END OF THE UNEXPIRED TERM, BUT TO THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THAT

LANGUAGE WAS USED. >> OKAY.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT REAL QUICK.

THAT I HAVE A QUESTION, TOO, FOR YOU.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT REAL QUICK THAT IF, IN FACT, WE HAD A HOME RULE CHARTER, THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD RECTIFY.

I POINT THAT OUT. BUT WHAT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO ASK YOU IS, WHAT ABOUT SUBSECTION D WHERE IT DOES SAY SHALL BE USED TO APPOINT AN APPLICANT TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. IT IS LIKE, THIS SECTION ITSELF IS CONTRADICTORY BY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

>> ARE YOU READING FROM THE CODE.

>> THE PAPER THAT YOU GAVE US. >> WOULD IT BE OUT OF ORDER TO LET MR. BAKER DO SOME RESEARCH INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ANSWER IT ON THE FLY. WOULD THAT BE OKAY?

>> I'M FINE WITH THAT. >> MR. BAKER.

>> I WILL SAY IF YOU LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHERE TO LOOK IN THE CHARTER. NO MATTER WHAT THE CODE SAYS --

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE CODE. >> ALL RIGHT, AND THE CHARTER SAYS THAT -- IT IS ARTICLE 2 SECTION 7 THAT DEALS WITH VACANCY IN OFFICE, ANY CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY EXPIRATION OF THE TERM, EXCEPT THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL FILL THE CRAICT SIVACANCY UNTIL THE NEXTY ELECTION BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

THAT'S IN THE CHARTER. >> GOT IT.

HOME RULE, THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

WE ARE NOW READY FOR MR. JOE SHAKINAB, NEXT ON THE LIST.

MR. SHAKINAB, IF YOU WOULD, APPROACH, YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> GOOD EVENING. JOE SHAKINAB, 637 -- CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE, 37043. AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL AS THOSE VIEWING ONLINE, I'M JOE SHAKINAB, AS I EARLIER STATED, I'M HERE TO INTERVIEW FOR WARD 11 CITY COUNCIL SEAT FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, YA'LL HAVE AN INFO SHEET THERE, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, I HAVE LIVED IN CLARKSVILLE NOW FOR LITTLE BIT OVER 30 YEARS.

AND IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, I HAVE BEEN QUITE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, DOING A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK.

SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT I DO A LOT OF AUSTIN P, THE PRESIDENT FOR THE NATIONAL ALUMNI ASSOCIATION, ON MY THIRD YEAR THERE. NORMALLY TWO-YEAR TERM.

I AM ON MY THIRD YEAR. AND IN THAT ROLE I'M REALLY PUSHING SCHOLARSHIP ENDOWMENTS, REALLY PUSHING THESE CHAPTERS TO BUILD SCHOLARSHIPS FOR OUR YOUNG STUDENTS.

I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE MILITARY ALUMNI CHAPTER AT AUSTIN P. BUILDING SCHOLARSHIPS.

SINCE MY ROLE FOR PRESIDENT, WE ARE FULLY ENDOWED AND WE ARE ON THE FIFTH ONE RIGHT NOW. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'M ON THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE CENTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE ALSO DONE A SCHOLARSHIP FOR OUR ACHIEVERS AND SCHOLARS IN THAT PROGRAM. THAT'S A MENTORING PROGRAM.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I AM INVOLVED WITH AT AUSTIN P. ALSO A MENTOR, THE HONOR STUDENTS THERE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE WORKED WITH THE MONTGOMERY VETERANS COALITION FOR A GREAT NUMBER OF YEARS IDENTIFYING AND THEN FULFILLING THOSE NEEDS OF VETERANS AND THEN THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF VETERANS HERE IN

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CLARKSVILLE, MONTGOMERY COUNTY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I'M ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR RECOVER OUR SONS.

THAT'S A MENTORING PROGRAM AIMED TO HELP THE YOUNG MEN IN LINCOLN HOMES FROM AGES 6 THROUGH 18. WE DO A MENTORING PROGRAM, 12-WEEK PROGRAM WHERE WE EDUCATE THEM ON A VARIETY OF SUBJECTS.

I'M PART OF THAT EFFORT AS WELL. THOSE, AGAIN, SOME OF THE THINGS I HAVE DONE RIGHT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I DID MY UNDERGRADUATE AT AUSTIN P IN PUBLIC MANAGEMENT.

DID MY MASTERS THERE IN STEEJIC STRATEGIC LEADERSHIP.

I HAVE ATTENDED LEADERSHIP CLARKSVILLE.

IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, I NORMALLY DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT ACCOLADES BECAUSE I'M KIND OF SHY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, BUT I HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED A FEW TIMES.

LATELY, BY THE AUSTIN P STATE UNIVERSITY BOARD OF TRUSTEES, RECOGNIZED FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE.

I WAS INDUCTED AS A DISTINGUISHED ALUM AT AUSTIN P.

I WAS ALSO RECOGNIZED BY THE TENNESSEE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE.

AND THEN I RECEIVED THE TENNESSEE GOVERNOR'S VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR AWARD AS THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY HONOREE.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS HERE IN CLARKSVILLE.

BUT I REALLY CONSIDER MYSELF A SOLDIER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I LOVE MEETING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, FINDING OUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND THEN TRYING TO HELP FACILITATE THAT IN SOME FORMAT.

AT THE CITY LEVEL, I HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS NOW FOR THE PAST YEAR. I REALLY ENJOY THAT.

I'M LEARNING A LOT ABOUT THE CODES, ZONING, VARIANCES AND THEN THE RESTRICTIONS. IN THE PAST 14 MONTHS, I HAVE ATTENDED ALL BUT THREE OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING MEETINGS.

THAT IS A LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT, THEN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO I LOVE GOING TO THOSE MONTHLY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.

OFFER THE PAST YEAR, I HAVE REVIEWED ABOUT 95% OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. I LOVE TO GET ON IN THE DAYTIME, GET ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, I LOOK AT THOSE MEETINGS JUST TO GET A PULSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON HERE AT THE CITY LEVEL.

SO DAILY, I SHOW AN INTEREST IN THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY.

IN CONCLUSION, I'M JUST GOING TO WRAP IT UP WITH A FEW POINTS I LIKE TO MAKE. IF I'M ELECTED TO SERVE FOR THE REST OF THIS TERM, I WILL BE COMMITTED TO WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. I WILL GIVE 100 PERCENT EFFORT IN MAKING CLARKSVILLE A BETTER PLACE FOR ALL.

I WILL PLACE MY PROFESSIONAL CHARGE ABOVE ANY PERSONAL ENDEAVORS. I WILL MAKE TIME TO LISTEN TO CITIZEN GROUPS AND BUSINESS ENTITIES.

I WILL PROMOTE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

AND I WILL NOT HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

I WILL SERVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. SHAKINAB. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE

FIRST AND YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> HOW ARE YOU DOING,

MR. SHAKINAB. >> FINE, MA'AM.

>> MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, YOU MENTIONED HRC AND THE HRC IS COMPRISED OF MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY BUT THEN ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SITS ON THAT COMMITTEE KIND OF AS A DELEGATE.

SO THEY ARE NOT REALLY, LIKE, COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT, IF YOU WERE TO GET THE SEAT, HOW DO YOU FEEL -- YOU JUST SAID YOU WERE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE HRC AND HRC HAS VOTING RIGHTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THE HRC WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITY.

THE PREVIOUS COUNCILPERSON WAS VERY INVOLVED IN HRC.

DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HAVING TO TAKE THAT STEP BACK FROM BEING ON THE

HRC? >> THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

I HAVE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS, COUNCILWOMAN, YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR ROW. ROLE.

I RESPECT ANYONE IN ANY POSITION AND, AGAIN, I RESPECT MY

PARTICULAR ROLE. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU ARE

THANK YOU, MR. SHAKINAB, FOR THAT HUGE FILE, NICE, NICE.

I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE MENTORING PROGRAM THAT IS 12

WEEKS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> YOU DO REACH OUT TO THE YOUNG MEN OVER IN LINCOLN HOMES.

IN THAT PROGRAM, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY MEN OR YOUNG MEN HAVE BECOME PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS IN CLARKSVILLE AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING TODAY BASED OFF YOUR MENTORING PROGRAM?

>> YES, MA'AM. THE LAST CLASS WE JUST RAN THROUGH, THEY FINISHED UP IN DECEMBER, WE HAD ABOUT 12 MEMBERS. AGAIN, THEY RANGE FROM ABOUT 8 TO 14, 15. OVER THE 12-WEEK COURSE, THEY LEARN A VARIETY OF SUBJECTS. WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT BEING GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT MENTORS COME IN, GIVE THEM CLASSES ON WEARING A TIE, THINGS LIKE THAT. LEARN COOKING, HAVE SOME CHEFS

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COME IN, GIVE COOKING CLASSES. SO JUST A VARIETY OF SUBJECTS TO JUST GIVE THEM AN OVERALL SENSE OF WELL-BEING AND TO BUILD THEIR CONFIDENCE, GIVE THEM -- ASSIST WITH HOME WORK IF THEY HAVE THAT ISSUE AS WELL. SO PRETTY MUCH STANDARDIZED COURSE THAT WE RUN. BUT FOR THAT MEN IN THE PROGRAM. ONLY FOR THE GUYS IN LINCOLN

HOMES. >> SO HAS ANYBODY GRADUATED AND

SHOWING BEING PRODUCTIVE? >> THEY ARE STILL TOO YOUNG.

NOT OVER 18 YET. SO THEY ARE STILL IN SCHOOL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE DO LOOK AT THE GRADES.

WE DO HELP THOSE GUYS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE EDUCATION, MAKE SURE THAT IS A PRIORITY AND MAKE SURE THOSE GUYS ARE BEHAVING, DOING THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS CLEANING UP, TWAIKING TAKING CAREOF ELDERS.

>> SO DO YA'LL STAY CONNECTED WITH THEM AFTER THE PROGRAM?

>> YES. >> OKAY, GOOD, GOOD.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING IN CLARKSVILLE? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING?

>> WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, AS FAR AS POPULATION MANAGEMENT, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE WAY I LIKE AT IT.

IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THIS ONE PARTICULAR AREA AND THEN FEW IN ANOTHER AREA, IT MAKES SENSE, TO TRY TO EVEN THIS THING OUT FOR SCHOOLS AND FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO IT IS JUST PART OF IT, RIGHT. I WAS IN WARD 12.

NOW I'M IN WARD 11. I ACCEPT THAT.

>> WHY DID YOU ACCEPT IT? >> BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE POPULATION. IT THE FOPL POPULATION IS HIGH S ONE AREA, LOW IN ANOTHER AREA, SOMEONE HAS TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE MANAGE THIS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SCHOOLS.

UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD MORE SCHOOLS TO FAIL FACILITAT.

>> HMM, OKAY. ALSO, WHAT DOES A GOOD COUNCIL MEMBER LOOK LIKE? THE IDEAL COUNCIL MEMBER.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. WHAT IS YOUR HOPE.

>> I WAS WAITING ON THE OTHER QUESTION THAT YOU --

>> I KNOW YOU WERE. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ASK IT.

I KNOW YOU WROTE IT DOWN. >> I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.

I WAS WAITING ON IT. A GOOD COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WILLING TO LISTEN, TO GO OUT THERE, TO MEET THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY, TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS, NOT JUST A PARTICULAR WARD, BUT ALL CITIZENS. AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU CAN MAKE YOUR IMPACT AND ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED EARLIER INTERVIEWEE BUT HOW THEY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I WAS SITTING THERE THINKING, WHEREVER I AM ASSIGNED, I WILL BE GIVE 100 PERCENT. IF I AM ON THE PARKS COMMITTEE, I WILL BE TALKING TO FAMILIES THAT VISIT THOSE PARKS, FAMILIES THAT DON'T HAVE A PARK IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I WILL BE FINDING OUT, WHAT IS IT WE NEED TO IMPROVE IN THIS

PARTICULAR AREA. >> HMM, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

YOU HAVE A BIG BIO. I HAVE TO ASK YOU SOME

QUESTIONS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> NOW, WHAT DOES A STABLE COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE TO YOU.

NOT AN UNSTABLE NOW. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> STABLE. >> OKAY.

>> I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT. VERY -- A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS I THINK ABOUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT STABILITY IN A CITY.

I DO SOME TYPE OF COMPARISON. OUR HOMELESS RATE, IS IT ON A DECLINE VERSUS AN INCLINE. THE JOB OPPORTUNITIES, ARE WE THERE? WE LOOK AT UNEMPLOYMENT.

LOW UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBER IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE AND OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION.

WHEN I LOOK AT CRIME, WHEN I LOOK AT STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT IN THE SCHOOLS, WHERE IS THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS RATED AGAINST OTHER STATE SCHOOLS AND THEN SCHOOLS ACROSS THE NATION.

SO I LOOK AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT AREAS TO GET A GOOD PULSE OF WHETHER WE ARE DOING GOOD OR WHETHER WE HAVE A LOT OF

WORK TO DO. >> MAYBE YOU MISUNDERSTOOD -- I SAID WHAT DOES A STABLE COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE.

YOU ARE TELLING ME ABOUT CRIME. THAT'S GOOD.

>> THE CRIME IS LOW. THAT'S WHAT I SAID, THE CRIME IS LOW IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES.

SO EVERYTHING I WILL LOOK AT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE VERSUS WHERE OTHER CITIES ARE.

I USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. CRIME IS LOW, HERE, WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER LOOK LIKE? THEN WHAT --

>> SO IT IS ONLY ABOUT CRIME? >> NOT ONLY ABOUT CRIME.

I SAID VARIOUS AREAS. CRIME, SCHOOL SYSTEM, HOW IS IT RATED. GRADUATION RATE, EMPLOYMENT, HOMES, CONSTRUCTION, ROADS, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.

RECREATION, SENIOR LIVING. >> THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU NAMED.

THEY DON'T GET THE LAW PROTECTION ALL THE TIME.

SO WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE THE PROTECTION AS THE OTHER

PERSUASION? >> THEN THAT'S WHEN I SAY, I

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WOULD LOVE TO GO AND TALK TO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.

I DO THO THAT ALL THE TIME. WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS? WE WANT THE POLICE TO PATROL OUR AREAS MORE, WE NEVER SEE THEM.

I GO AND -- WE WANT THE SPEED BUMPS, TOO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE SPEED. I SAY, IN ORDER TO HAVE A GOOD COMMUNITY, RIGHT, WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS, HOW DO WE RATE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, THIS SIZE, BUT THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE. BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE CAN POINT TO THE BAD IN A CITY. BUT WHERE ARE WE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES. NO IS CITY IS PERFECT UNLESS IS

15 PEOPLE. >> HMM, OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THANK

YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, MR. SHAKINAB FOR COMING UP HERE TONIGHT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR MENTORSHIP PROGRAM WITH THE YOUTH.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND MAKE THEM PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.

MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, SEEING THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED HERE IN CLARKSVILLE, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR THE CITY, HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION, AUSTIN P, YOUR YOUTH PROGRAM.

HOW DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THESE PROGRAMS WILL TRANSITION ON TO THE COUNCIL TO HELP YOU SERVE?

>> WELL, AGAIN, MAKE THE TIME, RIGHT? PRIORITIZING. WHERE AM I NEEDED? THAT'S WHY I SAY, I'M WILLING TO SERVE ON ANY COMMITTEE, COMMISSION, WHERE I'M NEEDED, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO SERVE AND GIVE 100 PERCENT ON DAY ZERO.

I WILL NOT WAIT UNTIL I AM IN THE SEAT.

ALREADY READING, ALREADY LEARNING, ALREADY READING THE CHARTER, READING ABOUT THE CODES, READING THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TO ENHANCE MYSELF SO WHEN I AM IN THE SEAT, THEN I CAN BE

EFFECTIVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN, NEXT,

AND YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. IT SAYS YOU ARE IN THE SPECIAL GRIFSPECIALFORCES. HOW MANY DEPLOYMENTS WERE YOU

ON? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I CAME TO FIFTH GROUP IN 1990. I WAS A YOUNG NCO AND THEN I TRANSITIONED INTO A WARRANT OFFICER, STILL SPECIAL FORCES IN 1996. BUT I REMEMBER MY EARLIER YEARS, PROBABLY WE GOT TWO OR THREE DEPLOYMENTS A YEAR.

MOST OF THOSE DEPLOYMENTS WERE THREE MONTHS.

YOU DO THAT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

A LOT OF DEPLOYMENTS, RIGHT? SOMETIMES ONE MONTH DEPLOYMENT, SOMETIMES THEY FORGET ABOUT US, YOU ENDED UP STAYING FIVE OR SIX

MONTHS. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS.

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. SHAKINAB. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD BEEN SPENDING TIME AT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR THE LAST YEAR. I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN WARD 11 SPECIFICALLY OUT THERE BY [INAUDIBLE].

>> FOR ME, SEEMS LIKE THE ROAD ITSELF, THAT'S BEEN A HEARTBURNER FOR ME SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON [INAUDIBLE] ROAD.

WHY CAN'T WE GET THE ROAD WIDE? I'M WILLING TO VOLUNTEER FOR WHATEVER I NEED TO DO TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

BECAUSE ANY LITTLE ACCIDENT, EVERY DAY, PRETTY MUCH, SHUT THAT THING DOWN. BUT THE STUDENTS CAN'T WALK ON THAT ROAD. NO ONE CAN RIDE A BICYCLE ON THAT ROAD. SO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, THE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL THAT ROAD, THEY WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION ON

THE ROAD. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU CAN

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR COMING UP HERE IN FRONT OF US.

I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS, YOU COVERED ALL MY QUESTIONS BUT ONE, SO I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I FEEL LIKE A PREVIOUS SPEAKER ASKED YOU ABOUT REDISTRICTING, I DID WANT TO BACK HIM UP THAT YOU DEFINITELY KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO HAVE 25,000 PEOPLE, 9800 REGISTERED ACTIVE VOTERS WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING FOR A CAMPAIGN. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU PROPS FOR THAT. AND MENTION, I THINK IT IS ONLY FAIR, THAT MR. SHAKINAB DID RECEIVE 1679 VOTES WHEN HE RAN LAST YEAR AND, OF COURSE, THAT WAS WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. AND THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU IS DO YOU INTEND ON RUNNING THIS YEAR?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, MR. SHAKINAB, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY. SORT OF THREE PARTER.

SO THE FIRST ONE, PRETTY SHORT. WHAT ARE THE THREE PASSION AREAS THAT YOU JUST REALLY WANT TO DIG INTO AND YOU HAVE A VISION

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TOWARDS? >> FOR ME, MAIN ROADS.

THAT'S A CRY THAT I HEAR EVER SINCE I WAS CAMPAIGNING.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO FIX THESE ROADS.

WE CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE NEED TO DO THAT SOONER OR LATER.

SOMETHING I WANT TO BE PART OF, ON THE COUNCIL.

THE NEXT ONE, I HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT PARKS.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS OVER IN TYLERTOWN AREA, WE HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN TYLERTOWN, BUT NO PARKS.

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR OUR KIDS.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSTATE TO GO TO A PARK. SO PARKS IS GOING TO BE A BIG ONE. AND THEN THINGS FOR SENIORS TO

DO. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> GETS AT MY SECOND QUESTION, WE CAN SKIP THAT. I CAN'T HELP BUT ASK, WITH SO MUCH -- I OFTEN -- SO WITH SO MUCH SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, WITH SUCH A DECORATED RESUME, DO YOU FEEL THE COUNCIL WOULD, PERHAPS, SLOW YOU DOWN? SO MY QUESTION IS SORT OF, YOU ARE BEING VERY EFFECTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND SO WHY CITY COUNCIL? HOW WOULD CITY COUNCIL IMPACT YOUR IMPACT OR YOUR INFLUENCE? YOU ARE ALREADY DOING IT.

SLAM DUNKING IT EVERY DAY. WHAT DO YOU NEED THE COUNCIL FOR, THE SEAT? I GUESS IS MY QUESTION AND HOW DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD IMPACT YOUR CURRENT IMPACT?

>> THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT QUESTION.

WELL, I WOULDN'T SAY I NEED THE COUNCIL FOR ANYTHING.

I LOOK AT MY LIFE AS WHAT AM I DOING EVERY DAY TO SERVE? WHAT AM I DOING TO MAKE SOMEBODY ELSE'S LIFE BETTER.

THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO BE ON THE COUNCIL, TO GIVE MORE TO THE COMMUNITY, TO SERVE A GREATER

CAUSE. >> AND SO I THINK THAT HELPED CLARIFY MY QUESTION. WHAT IS IT YOU FEEL YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE SEAT ON CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME WHEN THE AMAZING

WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING? >> PART OF THE PROCESS TO GET

THINGS DONE. >> GOT IT, THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU. I HAVE KIND OF A FOLLOW-UP TO COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS' QUESTION.

HOW DO YOU SEE YOURSELF -- LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING AT THE RPC MEETINGS AND YOU ARE ON SOME OF THE BOARDS AND YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE ARE STATING THAT THE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC BEFORE THE ROADS ARE PUTTING THEM IN DANGER AND THEIR LIFESTYLE IS NOT BEING RESPECTED AS WE INFILL.

SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BALANCE THAT? AS YOU VOTE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BRING TO THE TABLE? THEIR VOICES OR THE VOICES OF, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDERS AND

INFILL. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

I WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

WHEN I GO OUT THERE EVERY DAY, I HEAR TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. WE HAVE NO ROADS AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID, I WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ROADS THAT WE NEED VERSUS JUST TELLING THEM, WELL, IT IS PART OF A PLAN FOR TEN YEARS FROM NOW.

WHAT ARE WE DOING RIGHT NOW TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS.

>> OKAY. >> I WANT THE HARD ASSIGNMENT.

>> COUNCILPERSON REDD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE 2020 TRANSPORTATION STRATEGY, THE ROADS AND THE TIERS?

>> YES, SIR, I HAVE BRIEFLY LOOKED OVER THAT AS WELL.

>> WHAT DID YOU THINK OF IT? >> THAT'S WHAT I SAID, I WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS. SOME THINGS I THINK SHOULD BE MORE OF A PRIORITY. IF IT IS A STATE ROAD, SHOULD BE ON POINT TO BE LEADING THAT FIGHT AT THE STATE LEVEL.

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY PRIORITY? >> WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT ROADS, WE CAN'T EXPAND ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHERE IS THE PRIORITY? WHAT ARE THOSE CONVERSATIONS LIKE? I WANT TO BE PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

>> OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SHAKINAB.

SEEING NONE, THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, HAVE A BLESSED

DAY. >> NEXT NAME ON THE LIST IS LANE MANG, COME FORWARD, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU WILL HAVE

FIVE MINUTES. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCILORS.

MY NAME IS LANE MANG. CURRENTLY I'M A STUDENT AT AUSTIN P STATE UNIVERSITY. POLITICS IS SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN ENAMORED WITH SINCE A YOUNG MAN.

WHEN I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL IN HAWAII, AS I BEGAN MY EDUCATION,

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I FREQUENTLY FOUND MYSELF PONDERING THE SITUATIONS AROUND ME AND CONTEMPLATING WHAT CAN I DO AND WHERE CAN I HAVE AN IMPACT. THEN THE ANSWER STRUCK ME, IF I WANTED TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH I RESIDED IN, I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE MATTERS INTO MY OWN HANDS.

I WANT TO BE A SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE RATHER THAN SITTING AT HOME AND CLAING ABOUT HOW TERRIBLE THE WORLD AROUND ME IS.

I WANT TO ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

WHAT BETTER CHANCE THAN APPLYING FOR THIS VACANT SEAT TO CHANGE MY COMMUNITY FOR THE BETTER. CURRENTLY I WORK AS INTERN FOR CONGRESSMAN MARK GREEN. THTHIS JOB HAS GIVEN ME UNIQUE INSIGHT. THE FEELING THAT ONE ELECTED OFFICIALS DO NOT CARE AND THAT ECONOMICDEECONOMIC DESPONDENCIES DAY BY DAY. I HAVE SEEN FOR MYSELF HOW THE POOREST AMONGST US STRUGGLE TO SURVIVE.

MY FATHER WAS IN THE ARMY FOR 26 YEARS.

I INTERABSENTED WITH THE INTERAY COMMUNITY.

MOVING HERE, I CAN SEE THE TREMENDOUS GROWTHS OUR CITY IS EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME, SEE HOW SPECIAL IT PLACE TRULY IS. YET THERE ARE THINGS I SEE AROUND ME THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. INFRASTRUCTURE IS MY TOP PRIORITY. NEW STREETS MUST BE BUILT TO CACCOMMODATE THE VAST INFLUX OF PEOPLE AND IMPROVEMENTS MUST BE MADE TO THE CONDITIONS OF OUR ROAD.

I UNDERSTAND OUR COUNCIL ALONGSIDE MAYOR JOE PITTS ARE WORKING ON THE 2020 PLAN. THAT ISN'T DOING ENOUGH.

THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH PARKING DOWNTOWN.

TO GROW AS A CITY, BUILD SUCH THINGS LI LIKE A NEW EVENT CENT.

AS A COLLEGE STUDENT, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR RECREATION. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THE CITY OF NASHVILLE AND ALL IT OFFERS CLOSE BY.

BUT WE ARE THE FIFTH LARGEST CITY IN TENNESSEE.

WE HAVE THE SPACE, WE HAVE THE MINDSET AND I WANT TO PUSH INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS TO BRING ATTRACTIONS TO CLARKSVILLE TO WE CAN ENJOY OURSELVES A BIT MORE.

ALSO THE NEED FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN CLARKSVILLE. IT IS A SELLERS MARKET, BECOMING HARDER AND HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO FIND A HOME AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE. IF WE INCREASE OUR INVENTORY OF HOMES, SPECIFICALLY DEVELOP AND BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE CAN MAYBE STABILIZE THE HOUSING MARKET.

YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT ME AS A YOUNG PERSON.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS NOT ONLY FEASIBLE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD ACTIVELY CONSIDER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. YOUNG PEOPLE SUCH AS MYSELF PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMY, WE WORK, PAY OUR TAXES, KEEP AUSTIN P OPERATIONAL AND DO OUR PART TO UP LIFT THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

YESTERDAY WE OFTEN HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE NEEDS OF ALL THE PEOPLE OF WARD 11 IN CLARKSVILLE BUT BE A STRONG VOICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S YOUNGER GENERATION TO ALLOW THEM TO PARTICIPATE MORE IN DEMOCRACY AND SOCIETY AT LARGE.

WE ARE IN A PERIOD OF POLITICAL TRANSITION, THE OLD WAYS OF POLITICS FADING. AS THE PLANET, OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LOCAL CLARKSVILLE COMMUNITY ARE EMBROILED IN CRISIS.

THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE WORLD ARE THE FUTURE.

AS A MEMBER OF THIS GENERATION, I CANNOT DENY THIS OPTIMISTIC FEELING IS CORRECT. BRINGING SOLUTIONS AT SOME OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES OF OUR TIME. RAMPAGE OF INFLATION, ECONOMIC INEQUALITY, BACK SLIDING DEMOCRACY AND SO ON.

BUT WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME.

OUR GENERATION IS RUNNING FAST IN THE BUSINESS OF CHANGING THE WORLD BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF THE MOMENT BEER IN.

WE ARE IN.THERE ARE MANY WAYS T. I AM RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE. A GREAT HONOR TO BE APPOINTED COUNCICOUNCILWOMAN EVAN'S SEAT. I SHALL SERVE TO THE BEST OF MY CAPACITY AND CONTINUOUSLY LEARN ALONG THE WAY TO BETTER MYSELF AND LEARN FROM THE COMMUNITY AROUND ME.

THAT IS WHY I HUMBLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE SO THAT WE CAN EMBARK ON THIS NEW ERA OF SUCCESS TOGETHER FOR CLARKSVILLE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MANG, COULD YOU PLEASE HOLLEMAN.

>> YOU ARE AT AUSTIN P, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR.

>> WHEN DO YOU GRADUATE. >> 2025.

>> ALL RIGHT, SO -- I'M A FRESHMAN.

>> IS THIS THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE DONE POLITICALCALLY BESIDES

MARK GREEN? >> YEAH, I APPLIED FOR AN INTERNSHIP AT A DIFFERENT OFFICE, I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I AM RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

>> IT IS PRETTY HARD, TAKES A LOT OF GUTS.

THAT'S FOR SURE. >> YEAH.

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IF YOU DON'T GET IT, DEFINITELY HANG IN THERE, DEFINITELY STAY INVOLVED. I LOST TO WANDA SMITH, TO SPECIAL APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP YOUR HEAD UP. THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY,

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN. COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> GUTENTAG.

[GERMAN]. >> NEIN.

>> I SAID GOOD EVENING AND I TOLD HIM HE DID A GOOD JOB AND I ASKED HIM HAD HE VISITED GERMANY OR LIVED ABROAD.

I WAS TESTING HIS RESUME WHERE HE SPOKE GERMAN.

BUT SERIOUSLY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SUCH AN INSPIRATIONAL LEADER. AND I JUST WANT TO ASK SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS FROM THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS THAT I PRESENTED. WHAT WOULD BE, MR. MAIN, THE SORT OF PASSION AREAS THAT YOU WOULD LOVE TO GET INVOLVED IN,

IF YOU WERE ELECTED TO THE SEAT. >> SO I BELIEVE MY NO. 1 PRIORITY WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOUNGER PEOPLE, SUCH AS MYSELF, THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET INTO AN OFFICE, THAT WE CAN MAKE CHANGE. I THINK OFTENTIMES WE LOOK AT IT AS SOMETHING THAT IS SO FAR AWAY AND IT REQUIRES SO MUCH MONEY AND I JUST THINK THAT IF WE INSPIRED MORE YOUNGER PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED, WE COULD MAKE CHANGE FOR THE BETTER HERE.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE TOP PRIORITY. I THINK SINCE I HAVE MOVED HERE, I HAVE SEEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE GET VISIBLY WORSE WITH POTHOLES AND TRAFFIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IMPROVED AS TIME GOES ON.

>> THANK YOU. VERY IMPRESSIVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> HELLO.

>> HI. >> I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I LOVE TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE DOING YOUR THING. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WAS ACTUALLY CONGRESSIONAL INTERN.

I WENT FROM AUSTIN P. THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT I WAS INTERNED FOR, HE IS SITTING UP HERE WITH US, TOO.

SO IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >> I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YOU REALLY SAID EVERYTHING THAT

I NEEDED TO HEAR. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. MAIN FOR COMING UP HERE TONIGHT AS A YOUNG PERSON.

YOU ARE VERY WELL SPOKEN, I FIND AND THAT IS REALLY AMAZING TO SEE IN THE YOUTH TODAY. AND I, UNFORTUNATELY, DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL FOR ANY OF US TO KNOW WHO IS GOING TO GET THAT SEAT NEXT WEEK. HOWEVER IT GOES, I DO WANT YOU TO ENCOURAGE TO CONTINUE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

YOU HAVE AMAZING LEADERSHIP. I CAN SEE YOU ARE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ONE DAY. ON TO MY QUESTION REAL QUICK, IS, FIRST, ARE YOU A FULL-TIME STUDENT.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR TIME MANAGEMENT WILL BE BEING A FULL-TIME STUDENT AND THEN WITH

THE CITY. >> WELL, COUNCILPERSON BUTLER IS IN A CLASS WITH ME. SHE INPI INSPIRED ME TO RUN HER.

I HAVE A JOB AS SECURITY OFFICER DOWN IN NASHVILLE.

AND I CAN -- AND I'M PART OF ALPHA FRATERNITY.

I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO BALANCE.

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY GOOD WITH TIME MANAGEMENT.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD IMPAIR MY ABILITIES HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL. MY CLASSES LINE UP WITH THE MEETING SCHEDULE, SO THERE WOULD BE NO ISSUES THERE.

>> OKAY, AWESOME, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SIX MONTHS AGO, ALMOST TO THE DAY, I STOOD RIGHT THERE AND DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID TONIGHT. I WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH MYSELF IF I KNEW THAT I PRESENTED MYSELF AS WELL AS YOU DID THIS EVENING. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A TOUGH QUESTION BECAUSE YOU CAN HANDLE IT.

I FEEL LIKE I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE LAST FEW DAYS TRYING TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE ON WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IS WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT CLARKSVILLE HAS SPECIFICALLY, THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IN ZONING. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IS WHEN

IT COMES TO ZONING AND REZONING. >> SO AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ZONING IS SOMETHING WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD ASK FOR PERMISSION TO BUILD A NEW PROPERTY OR HOUSING COMPLEXES

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AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I ACTUALLY RESEARCHED WHEN I WAS LOOKING INTO MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IS SOMETHING THAT IS USED, THAT DRIVES UP THE COST OF PRICES FOR HOUSES HERE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE, IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, WOULD HAVE BEEN TO ACTUALLY TRY TO LIMIT THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING AND MAKE IT MORE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN RENT MORE FROM DUPLEXES AND APARTMENTS SO WE CAN DRIVE DOWN THE COST OF HOUSING SO THAT MORE PEOPLE CAN

LIVE HERE. >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH.

>> COUNCILPERSON REDD, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I'M CURIOUS, HOW DID YOU BECOME SO PROFICIENT IN GERMAN?

>> I WAS BORN IN GERMANY. MY MOTHER, SHE IS GERMAN CITIZEN AND SO SHE TAUGHT ME GERMAN FROM A YOUNG AIM.

AGE. EYEI'M BILINGUAL.

>> MY WIFE IS GERMAN BY I AM NOT BILINGUAL.

>> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. >> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY, I DID NOT TELL HIM TO RUN.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT ABOUT I THINSPIRATION, I DO, IN CLASS, TELL THEM, GET OUT THERE, YOU CAN DO IT, BECAUSE I THINK IF I CAN DO IT, ANYBODY CAN DO IT. BUT DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM, YA'LL. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION BUT I KIND OF KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING MEETINGS, IT IS OBVIOUS FROM WHAT YOU SAID.

HE BROUGHT UP PARKING, THAT'S -- YOU KNOW.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. DO YOU INTEND TO RUN?

>> IF I DO GET ELECTED, YES, I WILL INTEND TO RUN.

>> AND I DO -- I TOTALLY SEE -- I LOVE -- THE BEST PART OF WHAT MR. MANG SAID, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IS NOT FREQUENTLY PRESENTED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE YOUNGER BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC REASONS. I HAD TO RAISE $9,000.

I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE.

I HAVE ALWAYS ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE EQUIVALENT, YOU ARE WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE AND PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO GO NEXT, YOU ARE EQ EQUIVALENT WITH THEM, YOU ARE PEERS WITH THEM.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> HI, YES. THANK YOU.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, SO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE IS ACTUALLY GETTING APSU STUDENTS INVOLVED IN VOTING AND AS WELL AS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO HOW DO YOU SEE YOURSELF PROMOTING, BRINGING THEM INTO SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON AS WELL AS GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND

INCLUDING YOUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY? >> SO ACTUALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITY STUFF, MY BROTHERS AND I, WE DO A LOT OF STUFF AROUND THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO -- SOON WE'RE GOING DO A JUMP FOR JUDE, LIKE FUND-RAISER, AND WE WILL HAVE VARIOUS PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY DONATE.

WE GO TO BUSINESSES, WE TALK TO THEM, WE SEE WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM AND DONATE TO OUR CAUSE. WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING, I'M VERY BIG PROPONENT OF DEMOCRACY AND I THINK THAT THE YOUTH NUMBERS SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TURNED OUT MORE.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAD AN EVENT RECENTLY AT AUSTIN P WHICH WAS CO-SPONSORED BY SOME OF THE CLUBS THAT I AM IN.

WE HAD THE TENNESSEE SECRETARY OF STATE COME DOWN AND HE WAS SIGNING UP YOUNGER PEOPLE TO VOTE AND EDUCATING THEM ABOUT HOW TO VOTE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TORE STEP, HAVING MORE EDUCATION FOR THE YOUNGER PEOPLE SO THEY KNOW

WHAT THE PROCESS IS LIKE. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME APPLAUD YOU FOR STANDING UP AS A YOUNG PERSON. THIS IS HOW IT STARTS.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> YOU SPOKE UP AND YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU SAID EVERYTHING THAT I NEEDED TO HEAR.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION. YOU SAID THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS

YOUR TOP PRIORITY. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DONE FIRST? WHAT ROADS? IS IT -- WHAT IS IT FOR YOU? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DONE COMPLETESSED FIRST.

>> TO BE HONEST, WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THE 2020 ROAD PLAN, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THERE WAS ONLY TWO AREAS THAT ARE FULLY FUNDED. SO THE ONE BY ROSS VIEW ROAD, ANOTHER ONE, AND THERE WAS TWO THAT WERE PARTIALLY FUNDED AND

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NO FUNDING FOR ANYTHING ELSE. WHILE I DO THINK ROADS SHOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY AND MAKING SURE THERE IS NO POTHOLES AND THAT MAYBE THE ROADS ARE EXPANDED A LITTLE BIT, I DO THINK THAT ONE AREA THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, IS TO GET MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE IS MAYBE BUILDING MORE PARKS AND RECREATIONAL AREAS FOR PEOPLE.

I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THE COMMUNITY AND IMPROVE THE MORALE OF EVERYBODY IN CLARKSVILLE.

>> GOOD ANSWER. I HAVE TO ASK ONE MORE.

YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT WE NEED MORE RECREATIONAL.

DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY RECREATION CENTERS WE HAVE HERE?

>> YES. WHEN I SAY RECREATIONAL, I DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN RECREATION CENTERS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT PARKS. WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PARKS.

BUT ALSO, LIKE, MAYBE JUST BUILDING SIDEWALKS SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE, THEY GO OUTSIDE, THEY CAN WALK A LITTLE BIT.

IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO A PARK OR ALSO JUST BUILDING MORE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A BASKETBALL COURT OR SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY OR HAVING MORE SPORTS FIELDS, GETTING PEOPLE OUT THERE AND EXERCISING, STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I WON'T BE HARD ON YOU. I WILL LET YOU GO.

THANK YOU, YOU DID A GREAT JOB. KEEP PUSH PUSHING, NEVER GIVE U.

>> I WILL, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> ONE LAST QUESTION, MR. MAANG, PREVIOUS COUNCILPERSON SPARKED IT.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL CURRENTLY ABOUT YOUR WORK AND WHAT YOU SEE AS A STUDENT AT AUSTIN P, AS A STUDENT LEADER, WHAT'S THE TEMPERATURE LIKE? WHAT OTHER -- COULD YOU SPEAK TO SOME OF YOUR EXPERIENCES, COULD YOU SPEAK TO YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS WHAT YOU ARE WORKING AS COMMUNITY/LEADERSHIP/POLITICAL

MISSION CURRENTLY. >> OKAY.

SO IN TERMS OF POLITICAL, I'M PART OF MULTIPLE GROUPS.

SO I'M PART OF THE YOUNG AMERICANS FOR LIBERTY, SO THEY SPECIFICALLY TRAIN YOUNGER PEOPLE IN HOW TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE. ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO AN EVENT IN NASHVILLE THIS WEEKEND WHERE I'M GOING TO BE PARTAKEING IN THAT. I WILL TRY TO GET OTHER PEOPLE TO PARTAKE IN SO TH THAT SO THEN DO WHAT I AM DOING RIGHT NOW.

OUR FRATERNITY, WE OFTEN GO AROUND THE COMMUNITY, WE GIVE BG LUNCHES TO THE HOMELESS. WE PICK UP TRASH AROUND CLARKSVILLE. WE DO FUNDRAISERS FOR CHARITY GROUPS AND WE REALLY MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WE ARE THE FRATERNITY THAT IS SERVICE ORIENTED AND WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS WHAT MAKES US -- STANDS US APART FROM OTHER FRATERNITIES.

>> AND DO YOU HAVE ANY STATISTICS ON -- I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE ACTIVE? ONE OF THE VISIONS I HAVE HAD IS TO HOST A TOWN HALL AT AUSTIN P AND TO BEGIN TO EDUCATE THE STUDENTS AS TO, ONCE YOU BECOME 18, HERE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT. I WOULD LOVE TO, WHETHER YOU MADE IT TO THE SEAT OR NOT, FOLLOW UP ON THAT CONVERSATION.

>> RIGHT. WE ACTUALLY HAD A TENNESSEE ELECTION SUMMIT THE OTHER DAY. WE HAD MAYOR JOE PITTS COME DOWN, THE COUNTY MAYOR COME DOWN, AND WE HAD OUR STATE SENATOR COME DOWN AND THEY KIND OF TALKED TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POLITICS AND EVERYTHING. I THINK WITH THAT, I BELIEVE -- BECAUSE IT WASN'T VERY WELL ADVERTISED.

THERE WAS LESS PEOPLE THAN I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY LIKED.

IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULD TRY TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ALL OVER THE CAMPUS SO PEOPLE WHERE TO GO IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING

LIKE THAT. >> WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES AS AN INTERN WITH CONGRESSMAN MARK GREEN. COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT

EXPERIENCE A BIT. >> YES, SO OBVIOUSLY AS AN INTERN, MOSTLY YOU SIT AROUND AND ANSWER PHONE CALLS WITH CONSTITUENTS. ANSWER THEM WHEN THEY ARE ANGRY AND THEY YELL YOU. YOU ARE LIKE, OKAY.

BUT, NO. BUT I MOSTLY WHAT I DO IS I PROCESS THEIR COMPLAINTS OFTENTIMES WITH VA OR OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES AND I HELP LOOK OVER THEIR CASE AND SEND IT TO THE DEPARTMENT SO THAT SOLDIERS OR RETIRED VETERANS, THAT THEY CAN GET THE HELP DESERVE. ALSO, RECENTLY, WE HOSTED AN EVENT FOR WEST POINT GRADUATES WHERE MARK GREEN WAS THERE AND WE SET EVERYTHING UP SO THAT THEY COULD RECEIVE THEIR CERTIFICATES AND EVERYTHING FOR WEST POINT IN THE NAVY ACADEMY.

SINCE MARK GREEN IS ON THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, I ACTUALLY HELPED WITH SOME OF THE RECENTLY, I HAD TO TRANSCRIBE EVERYTHING THAT HE SAID IN THE UKRAINE MEETING AND SEND IT TO

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THE WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT. SO, YEAH, I DO A LOT OF THINGS

AS AN INTERN. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> YOU ARE SO IMPRESSIVE. BUT I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

ON YOUR RESUME, THIS WAS THE QUESTION THAT I HAD FROM THE

BEGINNING. >> OKAY.

>> ON YOUR RESUME, YOU SAID WILLING TO RELOCATE ANYWHERE.

NOW, WE DON'T NEED YOU LEAVING, IF YOU GET IN THE SEAT.

WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT? >> WELL, MOSTLY SO WHEN I MOVED HERE FROM HAWAII, IT WAS LIKE I CAN DRIVE ANYWHERE IN 35 MINUTES. SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT WHEN I GOT HERE, I JUST TOLD MYSELF, LIKE, IF THE PAY IS ALL RIGHT, WELL, I WILL BE WILLING TO DRIVE AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF.

>> SO YOU WILL BE GRADUATING THIS YEAR?

>> NO, I'M GRADUATING, 2025. THU COUYOU COULDN'T DO THE INTEP

UNTIL SENIOR YEAR. >> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT NAME ON THE LIST,

MR. RICKEY RITA. >> MY NAME IS R RICKEY REDISTRICTINGA. RITA. I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE SINCE 1969, NORTH SIDE OF TOWN. MILITARY BRAT, FATHER OF 27 YEARS, THEY CALLED ME A MILITARY BRAT.

WE HAVE HEARD THAT SAYING BEFORE.

AS I GREW UP, PLAYED BALL AT STOKESVILLE.

I HAD THREE SCHOOLS I WENT TO. AS I WAS IN VO. TECH. SCHOOL, WE LEARNED TO DO BODY SHOP, LEARNED TO DO CARS.

I HAD NO IDEA IT WOULD TAKE ME INTO A 28-YEAR BROKERSHIP SELLING CARS. I PAINTED CARS BACK WITH MY TEACHER. I GUESS I WAS THAT GOOD, I GOT TO GO TO HIS HOUSE AND PAINT CARS AND MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. I LAID CAR CARPET, PAINTED CARS UNTIL 1989 WHEN I STARTED WITH THE STREET DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS REAL IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KEEP INSURANCE, MY FATHER TOLD ME YOU HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE, HEALTH INSURANCE.

I TOOK THE JOB. IT DIDN'T PAY A LOT.

IT HAD INSURANCE. AS I GOT MARRIED, MY WIFE GOT ON TO THIS INSURANCE POLICY. AT THE STREET DEPARTMENT I LEARNED MANY THINGS, HOW TO RUN EQUIPMENT, TRACK HOES, DOZERS, PANS, BUILD ROADS, ENGINEERING. WE BUILT JACK MILLA BOULEVARD.

WE SURVEYED IT, PUT IT ON PAPER, WE DONE IT ALL.

SO IT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF A KNOWLEDGE IN STORM WATER, PAVING, INFRASTRUCTURE. IN '94, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I STARTED IN '94 AT THE CLARKSVILLE FIRE RESCUE AND I STAYED THERE FOR FOUR YEARS, EIGHT MONTHS. WHY I STARTED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I STARTED WITH A GENTLEMAN NAMED RICK WATTS ON COLLEGE STREET, HE SOLD A LOT OF CORVETTES.

HE TRAINED ME, MY IDOL. REST IN PEACE TODAY.

HE TAUGHT ME FINANCE, TAUGHT ME TO BUY CARS.

I STARTED IN '94. IN 1998, I STARTED MY OWN CAR LOT ON NORTH SECOND STREET. IT STILL SITS THERE TODAY.

WE HAVE RETIRED THE LICENSE AT THAT STORE AND MOVED TO ANOTHER STORE AND WE DO STILL BROKER CARS.

I KNOW FINANCE, I KNOW BUDGETS, I KNOW ROAD, I KNOW INFRASTRUCTURE. I DID LEAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN 1998. I HAD MY DAUGHTER, SHE WAS BORN IN 1996. SHE WAS TWO YEARS OLD.

THE CAR LOT DID REALLY GOOD, MY WIFE TALKED ME INTO LEAVING AND I RESIGNED AND GOT OUT. EVER SINCE I HAVE CREATED BUSINESSES. WE RUN THAT BUSINESS REAL WELL FOR A LONG TIME. FROM '98 UNTIL ABOUT 2009, I DECIDED I WANTED TO START BUILDING HOUSES.

I TOOK THE TEST. MY WIFE, WHY ARE YOU WANTING TO CHANGE, WE ARE DOING SO GOOD HERE? WELL, I WANTED TO CHANGE AND I HAD A LOT OF MONEY ON THE BOOKS AT THAT CAR LOT. SHE CONTINUED TO RUN THE CAR LOT, COLLECT THE MONEY. I WENT ON TO BUILD HOUSES.

SHE SAID SHE WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH IT SEVEN YEARS LATER, SHE STARTED BUILDING WITH ME. THREE YEARS LATER, SHE LEARNED THAT IT WAS VERY STRESSFUL AND SHE RETIRED.

SO IT IS ME OUT HERE RUNNING THIS CORPORATION TODAY.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME. IF YOU HAVE IN I QUESTIONS,

AISLE I'MHERE TO TAKE THEM. >> THANK YOU, MR. RITA,

COUNCILPERSON SMITH. >> THANK YOU, MR. RITA.

WE KNOW YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR NICE BIO.

MY QUESTION TO YOU IS ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

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YOU SAID YOU ARE A HOUSE BUILDER.

YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

WHAT DOES CONFLICT OF INTEREST LOOK LIKE TO YOU, IF YOU BECOME

A CITY COUNCILPERSON. >> CONFLICT OF INTEREST WOULD BE TRYING TO SWAY VOTES INTO YOUR WAY SO YOU HAVE GOT THINGS PASSED. IF YOU AS A COU COUNCILMAN, YOUA BUILDER, THAT WOULD BE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

CONFLICT OF INTEREST WOULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS THAT PROMOTE YOURSELF BEING TO MOVE FORWARD, WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

>> SO THAT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

LET'S SAY YOU ARE A BUILDER, AND YOU ARE ON THE COUNCIL AND YOU WANT TO REZONE SOME LAND, DO YOU THINK THAT'S A DONE CONFLICT OF

INTEREST? >> I STEP BACK FROM THE ZONING.

THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL BUILDERS ON THE BOARD IN THE PAST AND THEY DIDN'T VOTE ON THOSE ISSUES. I THINK IF I TRIED TO SWAY SOMEONE TO GO THAT WAY, THAT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT YOU ARE ASKING. I'M NOT LOOKING TO DO THAT.

I'M HERE TODAY TO DO INFRASTRUCTURE, SIDEWALKS, A LOT OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVE FORWARD.

THE TRAFFIC PLAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT STUFF MOVED FORWARD.

>> TRAFFIC PLAN? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT?

>> I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LARGE BUDGET.

20 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR. THAT'S GOING TO CREATE BONDS THAT WE CAN GET OUT HERE AND GET THINGS DONE.

AS THAT 20 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR WAS PASSED LAST AUGUST OF 2021, THAT'S BUILDING A REVENUE OF BONDS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY START CAPTURING THEIR OWN ROAD BUILDING, MISS SMITH, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN HELP IN.

I KNOW HOW TO DO IT. I KNOW BUDGETS, I KNOW ROADS.

AND IF YOU WILL GIVE ME THE CHANCE, I WILL SHOW EVERYBODY HERE AND I WILL TEACH EVERYBODY ON WHAT I KNOW IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY BECAUSE IT BRINGS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE TO THIS TABLE.

>> GIVE ME THREE POINTS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.

>> YES, MA'AM. I WOULD THINK ONE WOULD BE CODES. CODES, THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME CITY TO COUNTY. CERTAIN CODES IN THE COUNTY, I I WILL GIVE YOU A GREAT JUAN THATT PROBABLY NOBODY KNOWS.

IN THE CITY, IF I BUILD A STRUCTURE ON THE GROUND, I HAVE TO FILL THREE FOOT OF RED DIRT, THAT IS COMPACTIONS, PUT A PAD ON IT. IN THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, I DON'T HAVE HAVE TO HAVE AN EXA A COMPACTION TEST.

IN THE COUNTY, I HAVE TO HAVE A COMPACTION TEST.

WHEN YOU PULL THE PERMIT IN THE COUNTY.

I CAN BUILD YOUR HOUSE TODAY, BUILD THREE FOOT OF GROUND, NOT DO IT CORRECTLY, NO ONE IS WATCHING, AND CONTINUE TO BUILD THE HOUSE. THE WAY THE LAWS ARE WRITTEN IN THE CITY. I WANT TO HELP CHANGE SOME OF THAT. WE DO BUILD FAST BUT WE NEED TO BUILD RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I CAN COME IN HERE AND SHOW THE COUNCIL WHERE I CAN BE A GREAT

BENEFIT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. >> I KNOW YOU BUILD A LOT OF

HOUSES. >> YES, MA'AM, I DO.

>> WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE. THAT WAS ONE.

WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU CAN HELP US WITH, YOU ARE GOING

TO TEACH US. >> I'M NOT GOING TO TEACH US.

>> THAT'S OKAY, WE ARE OPEN TO LEARN.

>> IT'S A LITTLE NERVOUS UP HERE.

>> TACK YOUR TIME. >>.YOU ARE GOING TO BE NERVOUS N

THAT IF YOU GET ELENGTHED. ELEC. >> I CAN TAKE US TO STORM WATER, STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. TO MAKE AN INJECTION WELL HAS TO COME FROM A SINKHOLE. WE CAN CREATE OUR OWN SINKHOLE, THIS BE BE DRILLED WITH WELLS. THAT WILL DRAIN WATER, IT WORKS.

SO I BRING A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE TO INJECTION WELLS.

IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHEN WE GET A LOT OF VOLUME OF RAIN AND IT DOES NOT GET OUT FAST ENOUGH, WE NEED TO DIG THOSE WHO ELSE OUT AND CLEAR OUT SUCH AS I SEEN IN BUNKER HOLE. THEY WERE IN THE BIG HOLE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IN THE HOLE DIGGING IT OUT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T TAKE THE WATER CORRECTLY. I KNOW ALL ABOUT IT.

I BUILD THEM. I CAP THEM.

YOU CAN ALSO CAP A SINKHOLE TO MAKE IT WHERE IT IS ACTUALLY GOOD GROUND NOW THAT YOU CAN BUILD ON.

A LOT OF SINKHOLES GET PUT IN DEVELOPMENTS IN THE ROAD OF THE CITY, IN THE STATE, AND IT GETS CAPPED IN THE ROAD AND THEN THEY GET SIGNED OFF ON AND A LOT OF SINKHOLES GET PUT IN THE ROADS.

>> OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THE THIRD, I WILL ASK YOU THIS, IN BUILDING HOMES, WHEN YOU WANT TO PUT R6 ON A PLAT, PIECE OF LAND, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL IT,

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WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PUT A WHOLE LOT OF HOMES ON A SMALL LOT? WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT? I KNOW, BUT I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS A CORPORATE

BUILDER LIKE YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

I FEEL IT IS A GREAT IDEA FOR INFILL.

IT CONDENSES THE SIZE OF THE LOT DOWN, SO WE CAN PUT MORE FAMILIES IN THE DOWNTOWN, IN THE DISTRICT AREAS.

IT IS ALL ABOUT PUTTING MORE RESIDENTS IN THE DISTRICT AREAS WHEN THEY CREATE THE R6. BACK WHEN I GREW UP, WE HAD HOUSES ON AN ACRE. THEN AS I STARTED -- I GREW UP IN '69 THROUGH THE '80S. AS 2000 GOT HERE, R6 WASN'T HERE, WE STARTED CONDENSING LOTS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, .7 ACRES.

AND THEN YOU PUT A HOUSE ON IT. WELL NOW IT HAS GOT THAT IT IS KIND OF -- OUR BOUNDARIES ARE JUST BOUNDARIES, SO IF WE ARE GOING TO GET INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, WE ALMOST HAVE TO CONDENSE IT DOWN TO HAVE R6. IT DOES HELP WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING. IT HELPS A LOT.

>> SO WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE PLACED?

>> I THINK -- -- IS THERE CERTA- >> THERE CERTAIN AREAS? WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE R6.

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. >> WHAT WARD.

IT IS A GREAT QUESTION. >> WHEN IT FIRST COME OUT, IT WAS REALLY ONLY SPELLED OUT TO BE IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

IT WASN'T SPELLED OUT TO START CRAWLING OUT INTO 41A AND CRAWLING OUT DOWN WILMA RUDOLPH. I THINK IT IS GREAT.

I'M ALL ABOUT NEW PROVIDENCE BOULEVARD.

YOU WILL HEAR ME SAY NORTH SIDE. >> DON'T SAY WARD 6, YOU WILL

LOSE A VOTE. >> I WILL LEARN THAT.

I THINK NEW PROVIDENCE IS A GREAT PLACE FOR IT.

I AM CREATING SOME RIGHT NOW. IT IS PUTTING GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE INTO DILAPIDATED UNSTABLE AREAS.

I SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHEN WE COME, R6, WE START SHOWING A LOT OF HOUSES, NEW, AND IT REALLY CREATES A NEW LIVING ATMOSPHERE.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. HELLO MR. RITA.

AS A DEVELOPER, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HERE IN CLARKSVILLE AND DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN UNDER QUITE A BIT OF HOT WATER WITH THE RESIDENTS DUE TO THE INCREASE THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. AND I'M PRES PRETTY SURE THAT AE THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO FEEL WAYS ABOUT HAVING A DEVELOPER SIT ON THE COUNCIL. MY QUESTION TO YOU TONIGHT, HOW DO THE CITIZENS OF CLARKSVILLE BENEFIT FROM HAVING A DEVELOPER

HERE ON THE COUNCIL? >> IT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

AGAIN, I SPOKE ABOUT, I WILL RUN OVER WHAT I HAVE DONE, IF I WAS CALLED BY A CONSTITUENT TO LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTIES, THEY HAVE A FLOOD ISSUE, I CAN GO THERE, I CAN SEE THE WATER, I CAN SEE WHERE IT IS RUNNING. IT IS BEST AFTER IT RAINS BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY REALLY GET AN IDEA.

BUT I CAN HELP GET THEIR PROBLEMS ADDRESSED AND MAYBE HELP THEM WITH A PEACE OF MIND FROM THE KNOWLEDGE I BRING IN

FROM THE STREET DEPARTMENT DAYS. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. RITA, THAT LAST -- THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

CONSTITUENT, LAST RAINFALL WE HAD, SENT ME VIDEO AND I JUST FELT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START.

IT SOUNDED LIKE AN INSURANCE THING.

AND SO I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU HAD TO PRESENT.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE STREET DEPARTMENT. I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD SUCH A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE CITY IN THE CAPACITY THAT YOU HAVE IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND ALSO WITH THE FOUR YEARS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SAME SORT OF QUESTION.

I BELIEVE YOU GAVE THE COUNCIL A GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF HOW YOU WOULD SUPPORT US. INFRASTRUCTURE BECOMES A BUZZ WORD UP HERE AS WE ALL KNOW. WE ARE ADDRESSING IT.

COULD YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER AREAS THAT YOU COULD BRING YOUR BACKGROUND AND YOUR EXPERTISE. I LOVE WHAT I'M HEARING WITH THE CAR INDUSTRY, TOP THREE TOUGHEST INDUSTRIES NEXT TO HOSPITALITY.

NOW HOUSING, ESPECIALLY FOR CLARKSVILLE.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO MAYBE ONE OR TWO OTHER PASSION AREAS THAT YOU REALLY FEEL YOU CAN BRING EXER EXPERTISE.

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>> I THINK WITH BUDGETING. I THINK I CAN COME IN THE GAME REAL GOOD. I RUN A REAL BIG BUDGET, WAY NORMAL THAN THE AVERAGE. $70 MILLION A YEAR WE RUN THROUGH THE COMPANY. I WOULD BE REALLY GOOD STRUCTURE AT BUDGETING, BUDGETING PROJECTS, BUDGETING BUILDINGS, BUDGETING ROAD STRUCTURE. I JUST GOT THE KNOWLEDGE IN THE BUDGETING. I WANT TO SEE -- IF WE ARE GOING TO ASK TO BUILD SOMETHING, I WANT TO SEE THE BUDGET TO BUILD IT. I DON'T WANT TO BUILD IT IN THE DARK. THEN I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE ARE BUILDING, HOW IT IS GOING TO HELP THE CITY AND PAY BACK THE CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BEFORE MAKING MY CHOICES. I THINK I CAN BRING THAT TO THE RESIDENTS TO THE FINANCING PART OF FROM WHERE I HAVE BEEN WITH

THE CARS. >> I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR STEPPING UP. YOU STRIKE ME AS SOMEONE WHO IS SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE A KNOWLEDGE BASE TO NOT ONLY BENEFIT FROM THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE BUT NOW YOU STAND AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BACK WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT LIFE HAS GIVEN YOU. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE AND THANK YOU FOR COMING UP AND REPRESENTING YOUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMUNITY FIRST AND FOREMOST.

GOOD LUCK. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER YOU ARE

AND THANK, FOR COMING UP HERE. SO WE HEAR SO FREQUENTLY, WE BEAT UP OUR BUILDERS AND I THANK YOU TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER BECAUSE I HADN'T EVEN CONSIDERED THE WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU BRING TO THE POSITION. AND THEN THE PART ABOUT STREETS, I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, TOO.

I GUESS WE KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE MEETINGS BECAUSE YOU ARE USUALLY AT THEM. WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE ARE FACING AS A CITY?

>> I THINK AT THIS TIME IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC.

I THINK IT IS CRITICAL. I THINK WE NEED TO JUMP ON THE TRAIN OF GETTING SOME STUFF NOT IN THE WORKS BUT COMPLETED.

GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE EXIT 8 AREA.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE. I HEARD IT COME UP EARLIER.

I TRULY THINK THAT CARDINAL LANE SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY NOW.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS. WE HAVE THE FUNDING COMING IN FRONT OF US. IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN TAKE A STATE ROAD AND BUDGET IT WHERE WE CAN BUILD IT AND GET IT DONE AND NOT WAIT ON THE STATE FOREVER, I WOULD LOVE TO HELP THAT. I THINK THE STREET DEPARTMENT, THE ENGINEERS, GAS AND WATER I THINK WILL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH EVERYBODY HERE, TOUCHING THE COMMISSIONERS IN THEIR AREAS AND MOVING ALONG, GETTING THAT ROAD BUILT.

WE BUILD ONE TAI. AND I'M AT A TIME.I'M TALKING ABOUT BUIT OURSELVES. I HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR ME ON A SALARY BECAUSE I GET THINGS DONE CHEAPER.

BUT I DO BUILD A LOT. I HAVE TO W WEIGH THE DIFFERENC.

IS IT PEOPLE ON PAYROLL OR PEOPLE THAT ARE SUB BASING THIS OUT. I KNOW WHEN I AM SUBBING, I'M PAYING MORE OUT. I HAVE GOT PEOPLE ON SALARY, PAY THE PAYROLL TAX, THAT'S WHAT HURTS SO BAD.

DEFINITELY, WE CAN DO IT CHEAPER, SOME PROJECTS, ABOUT HALF THE COST. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T GO BACK TO THE LATE '80S AND EARLY '90S AND CREATE OUR OWN

INFRASTRUCTURE AND GET IT DONE. >> I LOVE THAT IDEA.

I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION FOR YOU WOULD BE DO YOU INTEND TO

RUN THIS YEAR? >> I DO INTEND TO RUN, YES.

IF I GET THIS SEAT HERE, I WILL MADLY RUN FOR THE RE-ELECTION.

I DID RUN IN 2010, WARD 11 WAS MY WARD WHERE I LIVE NOW AND IT GOT SWITCHED OVER TO WARD 12. SO I RAN AGAINST A LADY NAMED KAY JONES. SHE WAS VERY GOOD WHILE SHE SERVED HER TIME. SHE DID DEFEAT ME.

THAT'S WHERE YOU GROW. HERE I AM AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO

SIT ON THE SEAT RIGHT HERE. >> THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE A HOMETOWN GUY.

BUT NOT AN OLD BOY. AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE YOU.

AND THEN TO A PREVIOUS SPEAKER, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE DENSITY IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA SO THAT THE PEOPLE, WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE, SO WE CAN GET THE PEOPLE WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE, THAT THEY ARE CLOSER TO THE AMENITIES AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE.

GOOD LUCK. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> YES, HI, GOOD EVENING. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

FIRST, LET'S TALK ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, WE MENTIONED THE EXIT 8 AREA AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING INTO EXIT 8.

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HOW WILL YOU BALANCE, WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE OPPOSED, FOR INSTANCE, TO 900 90 ROOFTOPS WITH ONLY ONE ENTRANCE.

WHERE OVER 2,000 CARS HAVE TO TURN LEFT OR RIGHT BETWEEN TWO HOURS. AND WHAT THE BUILDERS OUR YOUR COMMUNITY ARE EXPECTING YOU TO DO?

>> I TRULY FEEL THAT THAT 400-ACRE FARM WITH 900 HOUSES ON IT WAS ZONED A LONG TIME BACK. OR UNLESS WE, AS A COMMITTEE, STAND TOGETHER, AND I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE SENATE, THEY ARE TRYING TO PASS SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN RECHANGE THE ZONES, NOT AFTER SOMEBODY BUYS IT, BUT CHANGE IT AS IT SITS THERE.

SO THAT FARMLAND HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, BEFORE THE GENTLEMAN BOUGHT IT AND GOT A CONTRACT ON IT IS NOT THE TIME TO CHANGE THE ZONING. BUT IF YOU ARE SEEING A PROBLEM WITH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE LAW PASSES, AT THAT TIME WE WOULD GO OUT AND TRY TO CHANGE SOME OF THESE ZONES WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN ZONED FOR 40 YEARS. THAT WAS JUST A FARM THAT FELL IN THE MIX. IT JUST HAPPENED THAT IT WAS ZONED R1 ALREADY. AND THERE'S NOTHING WE REALLY COULD DO ABOUT IT. IT GOT OUT OF OUR HANDS IN THE CITY AND IT DID STAY OVER IN THE HANDS OF THE REGIONAL.

>> BUT THE RULE IS, ONE ENTRANCE EVERY 250 ROOFTOPS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SO THE ZONING WAS NOT THE ISSUE. IT WAS THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW 900 ROOFTOPS WITH ONE ENTRANCE.

>> I AGREE TO THAT. IT IS TWO ENTRANCES FOR 250 HOUSES AND EVERY OTHER 200 YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ENTRANCE.

>> I'M JUST SAYING, YOU ARE GOING TO RUN INTO THAT AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BALANCE BETWEEN YOUR BUILDING COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR RESIDENTS WANT.

SO I DON'T REALLY MEAN -- EXCUSE ME, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET TOO MUCH INTO THAT ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE, JUST OVERALL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REACH BACK AND ASSURE THE RESIDENTS THAT YOU WILL REPRESENT THEM AND NOT JUST ANOTHER PERSON ON THE COMMITTEE THAT'S REPRESENTING THE BUILDERS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BALANCE IS THAT.

>> YES, MA'AM, TIME WOULD SHOW THAT.

BUT I HAVE SEEN MANY ZONES GO THROUGH HERE THAT I AM NOT TOTALLY AGREEING UPON. WHETHER IT IS A BUILDER, DEVELOPER, THESE ARE MY FRIENDS UP HERE, SEVERAL, AND I HAVE FRIENDS OUT THERE. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIFFER IN DIFFERENT PLACES. I WILL MAKE THE RIGHT CALL, IF I FEEL DID DON'T NEED TO BE ZONED, I WILL TURN THAT PART DOWN.

WHETHER THE REST OF THE COUNCIL VOTES TO ZONE IT, I WILL VOTE TRULY OFF MY HEART FOR THE RESIDENTS AND MYSELF.

I LIVE ON BASHAM LANE. I HAD HOUSES PUT RIGHT BEHIND ME, I NEVER QUARRELED ABOUT IT. I HAD THE FIRES, I HAD THE NOISE, I HAD THE DISRUPTION. ME AND MY WIFE JUST CARRIED ON AND LAUGHED ABOUT IT, THESE ARE THE PHONE CALLS THAT I GET EVERY DAY. I GET THEM.

PORTA POTTIES IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

IT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF MINE, TOO.

I'M GOING TO VOTE FAIRLY. YOU WILL SEE THAT.

THERE IS SOME AREAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT AND IT IS GOING BACK TO THE STORM WATER AREAS. THESE HOUSES ARE GET BEING APPROVED THAT ARE REALLY CLOSE TO THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ORDINANCE WHERE WE GET A NEW CERTIFICATION OF THE NEW HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD LINE.

THE LINE CHANGED IN 2010. WE HAD THIS 100 YEAR FLOOD THAT LASTED FOREVER. AFTER 2010, IT GREW BIGGER.

IT GREW BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING STUFF.

AS WE BUILD AND PUT HARD STRUCTURE ON THE GROUND, THE WATER RUNS TO THE CREEKS A LOT FASTER.

WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT. >> AND THEN BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, YOU ARE REPLACING A VERY PROGRESSIVE -- THE COMMUNITY ELECTED A VERY PROGRESSIVE INDIVIDUAL WHO REALLY BELIEVES IN EQUALITY AND EQUITY.

SO WHAT IS YOUR EQUALITY AND EQUITY STATEMENT, FOR INSTANCE, IN YOUR BUSINESSES OR IN YOUR PRACTICE?

>> VERY GOOD. MY COMPANY, MY CORPORATION, IT IS 70% WOMEN. LADIES RUN MY COMPANY.

I HAVE GOT MEN ON THE GROUND OUT ON THE GROUND, GOT A COUPLE GIRLS OUT ON THE GROUND. BUT MAINLY, MY COMPANY IS RUNOFF WOMEN. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY I WOULD SAY I DIVERSIFY FROM MEN TO WOMEN.

I LIKE THAT STRUCTURE. THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THEY LISTEN. AS FAR AS MISS ASHLEE.

I MEAN NO DISRESPECT, I HAVE HEARD THE WORD GAY ON THE

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COUNCIL. I HAVE MANY GAY FRIENDS, MANY STRAIGHT FRIENDS, MANY FRIENDS WHO NEVER WANT TO DATE AGAIN.

I WILL STAND UP AND GO TO DINNER WITH MY GAY FRIENDS JUST LIKE I WILL MY WIFE. WITH NO THINKING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT IS JUST WHAT THEY PICKED IN LIFE. IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THEM. IT IS ALL TOGETHER, ALL TOGETHER. I HELPED.

>> I THINK -- ONE MORE THING, AND THEN I WILL -- SO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION IS INTENTIONAL.

SO ON OUR PC, IF YOU LOOK DOWN ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN -- THAT ARE APPOINTED TO THE RPC, THEY ARE MOSTLY BUILDERS, CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE, REAL ESTATE PEOPLE, NOT A LOT OF CITIZEN DIVERSITY IN A LOT OF THOSE BOARDS.

MANY RESIDENTS FEEL THAT THIS IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BALANCE HERE AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT BRINGING IN MORE BUILDERS HERE WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE A LARGER THAN AVERAGE VOICE AT THE RPC. SO HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT?

>> I WILL ADDRESS THAT REAL GOOD.

I'M NOT THE OL' BOY SYSTEM. I WILL BUCK THE SYSTEM.

I HAVE BUCKED THE REGIONAL PLANNING SYSTEM.

IT IS NOT THAT I BUCK IT, BUT THERE'S GUIDELINES AND STRUCTURES IN PLACE. IF I DON'T AGREE WITH SOMETHING THAT THE REGIONAL DOES ON A ZONING OR THEY DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT I WANT ON ZONING AEN I GO,O TO THE BZA AND GET MY ZONING THERE AND COME BACK WITH THE ZONING, IT DON'T ALWAYS MEAN I AM GOING TO GET APPROVED. I HAVE BEEN WALKED OUT THE DOOR I COULDN'T GET A BZA LETTER TURNED IN.

I GOT THE COMMISSIONERS TOGETHER WITH MY LAWYER AND MYSELF AND HAD A SIT DOWN AT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.

I'M NOT THE GOOD OL' BOY SYSTEM. IF I AM RIGHT, I AM COMING AT YOU. YOU HAVE GOT TO SHOW ME WHERE I AM WRONG. SO I'M NOT THAT PERSON.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> HELLO, MR. RITA.

HOW YOU DOING? >> I'M GREAT, THANK YOU.

I'M A LITTLE NECE LESS NERVOUS . >> I HAVE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUDGET, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

I'M VERY FAMILY ORIENTED. AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

MAKING SURE THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED FROM OUR PUBLIC PROGRAMS. THERE WAS ACTUALLY A -- THERE'S ACTUALLY, LIKE, THINGS WE ARE VOTING ON EVERY DAY THAT DON'T HAVE TO DO WITH THESE THINGS.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THOSE? PEOPLE FIRST FOR ME. THESE THINGS ARE GREAT, BUT

PEOPLE FIRST POUR ME. >> YES, MA'AM.

FIRST FOR ME. >> YES, MA'AM.

I WOULD DEAL WITH THEM DILIGENTLY.

>> SORRY, MR. RITA. >> ASK ME THAT QUESTION AGAIN.

>> HOW WILL YOU -- I UNDERSTAND FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE THAT PART DOWN PAT. BUT WHAT ABOUT A FAMILY PERSPECTIVE? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THE FAMILY SITUATION WHEN YOU GET CALLS BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS GETTING KICKED OUT OF THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE RENT IS TOO HIGH.

YOU GET CONSTITUENT CALLS, MY SECTION 8 DIDN'T COME THIS MONTH, OR YOU A GET A WHOLE OTHER FAMILY THAT LIVES IN YOUR WARD AND NEEDS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE.

THEY ARE GETTING READY TO BE EVICTED.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE THINGS WE GET CALLS ABOUT, TOO, FROM CONSTITUENTS. WE DON'T JUST GET CALLS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUDGETING AND STREETS.

>> IT IS AN IF YOU HAVE QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO FOR SOMETHING THAT IS GETTING EVICTED FROM THEIR HOUSE. MAYBE TRY TO FIND THEM A CHEAP RENT IN THE AREA? I THINK ONCE IT GETS TO THAT POINT, IT PUTS IT TOUGH ON THE INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL PERSON THERE. AS FAR AS STRENGTH AND FAMILY, MY DAUGHTER, SHE IS DCS. SHE HAS 20 CASES SHE CARRIES EVERY DAY. SHE MOVES ADOPTIONS AROUND.

IT IS NOT ME PERSONALLY, BUT I HEAR THAT.

I FEEL THAT. I HAVE GOT A HEART FOR THAT.

I JUST -- THAT WAS A GOOD ONE, MISS ALLEN.

>> IT WASN'T A GOOD ONE. MEANT TO BE A GOODONE.

THIS JOB IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE BUSINESS, IT IS ABOUT THE

PEOPLE. >> YES, MA'AM.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO LISTEN, ALWAYS ANSWER MY PHONE, ALWAYS ANSWER MY EMAILS. IF I CAN'T ANSWER IT RIGHT AWAY, I ALWAYS GET BACK TO YOU AS THE COUNCIL PEOPLE HERE, I HAVE WENT THROUGH ZONINGS, I NEVER LEFT ANYBODY HANGING.

I'M BACK WITH YOU WITHIN 24 HOURS.

SO IT WOULD BE THE RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE AND HEARING THEIR PROBLEMS. I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN FIRST

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QUARTER THOSE COUPLE OF PROBLEMS.

>> IT IS NOT ABOUT FIXING. IT IS MORE ABOUT RESOURCES.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>> COULD I LEARN FROM YOU? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

IF YOU CAN TEACH ME THAT, I AM WILLING TO LEARN.

THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT LEADERSHIP, I'M HERE TO LEARN.

I LEARNED IT AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I MAINLY LEARNED LEADERSHIP AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS A SET CHAIN OF COMMAND. IF YOU CAN TEACH ME, I WILL

LEARN. >> COUNCILPERSON REDD, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.

MR. RITA, YOU KNOW YOU WILL -- NOW, THIS IS -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE UNDERSTAND THIS, IF YOU HAVE THIS POSITION, YOU WILL LOSE A POTENTIAL VOTE ON THIS BODY THAT YOU COULD HAVE HAD ON ZONING CASES. THEREFORE, OVER THE COURSE OF -- IF YOU ARE RE-ELECTED, YOU LOOKING AT MORE THAN FOUR YEARS.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? >> I HAVE, YES, SIR.

I AM WELL BEYOND WORRYING ABOUT WHAT EACH VOTE BRINGS.

I FEEL THAT I HAVE GRADUATED PAST IT.

I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THEM VOTES AND I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MY LAND PASSED ANYMORE. I'M RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF RETIREMENT HERE. I COULD HAVE RETIRED IN '17 IF THAT HELPS. I'M NOT LOOKING TO BENEFIT ANYTHING HERE BUT TO HELP THE CONSTITUENTS, EVERYONE ELSE'S CONSTITUENTS AND HELP THIS COUNCIL.

>> SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PAY IS. >> I DO KNOW WHAT THE PAY IS,

YES, SIR. >> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T. THEY THINK IT IS A BIG ELABORATE

PAY. >> YES, SIR.

I DON'T THINK IT IS ABOUT THE MONEY.

IF I COULD GU GO ON TO SAY A LIE BIT MORE.

WHEN ME AND MY WIFE HAS DONATED, WE HAVE DONATED BIG.

THE THINGS WE HAVE GAVE, SO WHEN YOU SAY MR. RITA, YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE THAT ZONE. THAT'S OKAY.

BECAUSE MONEY IS JUST MONEY. AND I HAVE A GOOD SCENARIO FOR IT. I'M IN WOOD LAWN, JUST BLOWING IT UP OUT THERE. HOUSES ARE GOING UP, VALUES ARE GOING UP. COUPLE THREE YEARS AGO, WOOD LAWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE GUYS THAT RUN IT, THE HIGHER GUYS, ARE SEVERAL PASTORS, DEACONS, THEY CALL ME UP, RICK, YOU HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

IT WAS RIGHT ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE INSURANCE POLICIES AT WOOD LAWN. WHERE THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU DRAW A CIRCLE, EVERYBODY HAS CHEAPER INSURANCE IN THAT CIRCLE BUT AS IT GOT OUTSIDE THAT CIRCLE, THAT INSURANCE IS $600 MORE PER FAMILY.

SO THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU SELL US THE PROPERTY.

I SAID, WELL, LET'S MEET THERE. SO WE ALL MEET THERE.

I STUDY FOR A COUPLE DAYS AND I LEARNED THERE IS 42,500 BUDGET IN A LAND. WE GET OUT ON THE SITE AND I TALK TO THE GENTLEMEN AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YA'LL GOT TO SPEND. BUT THIS PROPERTY IS FREE.

YA'LL CAN HAVE THIS PROPERTY. SO IT IS 42,500 I KNEW THEY HAD.

SO TO DIRECT JUST A VOTE HERE AND THERE, THIS WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE STORIES.

I WANTED TO SHARE THAT ONE. NOW THESE RESIDENTS ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE WOOD LAWN, GETTING A $600 TAX BREAK, MANY HUNDREDS OF THEM, $600 A YEAR, TAX BREAK -- INSURANCE BREAK, NOT TAXES. INSURANCE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE GAVE BACK.

I THINK THAT SHOWS OUR CHARACTER.

I HAVE TAKEN OUT A YOUNG LIFE, BEFORE THEY BUILT THEIR HOME AT AUSTIN P, TAUGHT HOLIDAY, JUST REACHED OUT OUT OF THE BLUE, RICK, I HAVE 100,000-DOLLAR BID TO GRADE THIS, SO YOU ARE BUILDING CAN GO. I TELL YOU WHAT, MY GUYS ARE MOVING ON. I WILL MOV MOVE MANUFACTURES OVR THERE. ZERO BILL, THERE, $100,000 WAS WHAT HE WAS BUILD. I TOOK CARE OF IT FOR HIM.

HE WENT ON TO BULL HIS BUILDING. ON TO BUILD HIS BUILDING. HE IS A GREAT PLACE.

I GIVE, I DON'T CARE IF I MISS ONE VOTE ON MY ZONING.

>> I WANT TO, AGAIN, INVITE YOU TO COME BY SUGAR CREEK BAPTIST CHURCH IN WOOD LAWN. THANKS.

>> YES, SIR. >> COUNCILPERSON LITTLE, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU, MR. RITA, FOR COMING UP HERE AND JUST -- I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE, I KNOW IN CLARKSVILLE. SINCE I WAS A YOUNG AGE, EVERYBODY HAS KNOWN THERE IS A RITA HOMES AND RITA HOUSES, YOU HAVE DONE A LOT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THE BUSINESS ASPECT AND A LOT OF OUR GROWTH.

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THE QUESTION I HAVE IS JUST HIGHWAHOWDO YOU CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY IN PERSONAL LEVEL. COMMUNITY WORK, VOLUNTEERS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS RICK RITA, BUT DO THEY KNOW HOW -- HAVE YOU GIVEN PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW YOU AS A PERSON AND WHAT

YOU STAND FOR MORALLY? >> I THINK SO.

JUST GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, WOULD THAT BE ONE WAY OF GIVING BACK TO THE

PEOPLE TO YOUR QUESTION? >> IT WOULD BE.

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS GETTING IN THE MIX OF THINGS AS FAR AS, LIKE, NOT EVEN SAYING EXAMPLES OF HANDING OUT FOOD AND CLOTHES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR JUST BEING IN THE MIDST OF

COMMUNITY. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME. WHEN COVID HIT, MARCH 6TH OF 2020, THE GROCERY STORES, HAMBURGER, EVERYTHING WENT OUT.

IT WASN'T A LOT ON THE SHELVES. I PERSONALLY WAS CALLING HAMPTONS. I WAS BUYING $5,000 AT A TIME HAMBURGER MEAT IN ROLLS. WE WERE TAKING IT DENICE SKIDMORE, SHE IS VERY GOOD FOR ME.

WE WERE DISTRIBUTING IT OUT OURSELVES AT THE SCHOOLS.

SO WHEN THEY COME OUT, IT WAS MY GROUP HANDING THAT FOOD OUT.

SO YOU JUST SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE GAVE BACK, JUST TO THE COMMUNITY. I'M ALL FOR GIVING BACK.

SOMETIMES MY TIME IS REALLY TIGHT.

I CAN GIVE MY MACHINE TIME, I CAN GIVE MY CHECKBOOK TIME, SOMETIMES THAT LITTLE SMALL THING, I MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT EXTRA TIME. BUT THIS TIME I DID.

WE DONE THAT -- I THINK WE DONE SIX ROUNDS OF $5,000 HAMBURGER, WE WENT TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, CHURCHES.

PLEASANT VIEW. I HAVE A SUBDIVISION THERE AND WE WENT UP THERE AND GAVE THAT MUCH HAMBURGER A WAY.

JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. I CAN'T DO IT ALL, BUT THE

LITTLE THINGS MATTER. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> CAN I GO BACK TO MISS REYNOLDS QUESTION.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS. >> YOU CAN'T, SIR.

THEN YOU CAN GO BACK. >> COULCOUNCILPERSON RICHMOND.

>> MR. RITA, WE CLEARLY HEAR YOUR PASSION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER'S POINT, COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH YOUR -- INSIDE SORT OF AN ECONOMIC COMPASS, I JUST BELIEVE THERE COMES A POINT IN EVERY ENTREPRENEUR'S LIFE WHERE THEY GET MONEY OUT OF THE WAY.

I DON'T KNOW YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION.

THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE. SO WITH -- LET'S JUST ASSUME MONEY IS OUT OF THE WAY FOR EVERY DEVELOPER, LET'S GIVE THAT TO THE DEVELOPERS, I THINK THE PERCEPTION IS YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING BECAUSE THERE'S MORE MONEY TO BE GOTTEN WHEN IN REALITY THERE IS MORE PEOPLE THAT NEED HOMES.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT IN CLARKSVILLE, PEOPLE NEED HOMES.

SOMEBODY HAS TO BUILD THEM. COULD YOU MAYBE -- I GET THAT PASSION. COULD YOU PAINT FOR THE COUNCIL, CONSTITUENTS WATCHING ON LINE, WHAT IS MR. RITA BEYOND BUSINESS VISION, IF YOU WERE UP HERE AND ELECTED.

>> TO SEE BEAUTIFUL STREETS, BEAUTIFUL YARDS, FAMILIES HAPPY, INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT. I SAID IT BEFORE, I HAVE MADE IT. I'M 53 YEARS OLD.

I'M STILL DRIVING. HOUSES DO MAKE MONEY.

THEY MAKE MONEY. I STARTED BUILDING 40 AT A TIME.

WE BUILT 100 AT A TIME. I CARRY 600 PEOPLE A DAY THAT WE EMPLOY. SO THAT'S BIG.

YOUNG LADY BACK HERE HAS STATISTICS.

EVERY HUNDRED HOMES THAT A BUILDER BUILDS, WE EMPLOY 396 PEOPLE A YEAR. YOU DOUBLE THAT.

THAT DON'T QUITE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

BUT IT IS GETTING AROUND TO IT AS FAR AS THE BASIS.

I'M HERE TO BU BI BUILD CLARKSV. I'M READY TO GIVE BACK, MY KNOWLEDGE, MY TIME. ANYTHING THAT IS NEEDED OF ME.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE WILL GIVE YOU A SHOT GOING

BACK TO COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. >> MISS REYNOLDS, THIS IS A QUESTION I WANTED TO PUT OUT HERE.

THWHAT SEPARATES YOU MAYBE FROM STICKING WITH THE OTHER BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS AND TRYING TO SAVE THE MONEY.

I HAVE BEEN BUILDING FOR 13 YEARS.

I HAVE HAD TO PUT A SIDEWALK ON EVERYONE OF MY PROJECTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SIT UP HERE ON THIS COUNCIL AND I WOULD LIKE TO START SEEING THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF IT PUTTING THEIR SIDEWALKS IN. IT IS ONE STEP FURTHER WE GET.

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IF THEY BEAT ME UP TOMORROW, IF THEY BEAT ME UP NEXT WEEK.

I'M OKAY WITH IT. I HAVE NOT DONE ONE PROJECT IN CLARKSVILLE THAT I HAVEN'T PUT A SIDEWALK ON.

IF I HAVE TO PUT THEM, THE WHOLE BASE HAS TO PUT THEM IN.

I WILL STAND WITH YOU AND PUT THE SIDEWALKS IN.

>> IS THAT A QUESTION? I THINK THAT WAS A CLOSING STATE STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MR. RITA.

THAT'S THE LAST NAME ON MY LIST. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO PRESENT THEMSELVES FOR THE WARD 11 SEAT? OKAY. JUST REMINDER OF THOSE WHO PRESENTED THEMSELVES, WE WILL BE CONVENING AGAIN NEXT TUESDAY AFTERNOON TO ELECT AND YOU WILL BE SWORN IN IMMEDIATELY.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO GO TO THE REST ROOM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK UNTIL 8:15.

DO YOUR BUSINESS QUICKLY,

>> GET THIS PARTY RESTARTED, HERE.

[6) PLANNING COMMISSION]

THE NEXT ITEM ON AND YOU ARE GENEAGENDA, PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> WE HAVE FOUR ORDINANCES. MADAM CLERK.

>> ORDINANCE 87-2021-22, FIRST READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF MARK HOLLEMAN FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF RINGGOLD ROAD & ISHEE DRIVE FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDINANCE 88-2021-22, FIRST READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF VAN WORMER CONSTRUCTION, LLC FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF FOREST ST. & CHURCH STREET FROM R-3 THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ORDINANCE 89-2021-22, FIRST READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, MAYOR JOE PITTS, AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF CROSSLAND AVENUE AND RICHARDSON STREET AND RICHARDSON STREET FROM R-3 THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND ORDINANCE 90-2021-22, FIRST READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF HUNTER WINN & KOLT MILAM FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF GLENNWOOD DRIVE AND MAPLEMERE DRIVE FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL

DISTRICT >> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> MAYOR, I MOVE WE GO INTO PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOTION HAD BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY OBJECTION. WE ARE NOW IN PUBLIC HEARING.

FIRST ITEM IN PUBLIC HEARING IS ORDINANCE 87-2021-22.

APPLICATION OF MARK HOLLEMAN. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 87? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO FAVOR AGAINST ORDINANCE 87? NEXT ITEM ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA IS ORDINANCE 88-2021-22 AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF THE CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF VAN WORMER CONSTRUCTION.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 88? IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, SIR, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU

WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS DENNIS VAN WORMER. 181802 CH1802, I'M HEAR TO ANSWR

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> ANY MEMBER OF QUESTION,

COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. >> I H NOTICE IT IS ON FOREST AND CHURCH STREET. WHERE WILL ALL THE DRIVEWAYS BE ON CHURCH STREET OR WILL YOU HAVE ANOTHER ENTRANCE ON FOREST

STREET? >> I'M WORKING WITH THE ENGINEER AND INITIAL DRAWING SHOWS SHARED DRIVE GOING OFF OF FOREST STREET. BUT I AM GOING TO MAKE AN EXIT

ON TO CHURCH STREET. >> SO THE SHARED DRIVE WILL GO

AROUND -- >> IT WON'T GO AROUND.

IT WILL COME OUT IN THE MIDDLE. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, SO MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY HOMES ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING? IT SAYS MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY.

>> RIGHT NOW, IT IS GOING TO BE EITHER SIX OR SEVEN.

IT DEPENDS ON THE FINAL SURVEY AND PLAT.

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>> OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE WE LOOKING AT? DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA?

>> PROBABLY LOW TO MID 200S. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. VAN WORMER? COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> ON HERE, SIR, IT SAYS THAT THE APPLICANT ESTIMATES FOR THIS PROPERTY IS FIVE LOTS, FIVE UNITS.

AND THEN IT SAYS ORDINANCE WAS FOUR.

>> THE INITIAL DRAWING THAT I GOT FROM MY ENGINEER ACTUALLY SHOWED SIX. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FIVE

OR THE FOUR COME FROM. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. VAN WORMER? THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 88? ANYONEND AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 88? NEXT ITEM ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA IS ITEM 3, ORDINANCE 89-2021-22 AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKS VICTIM, APPLICATION OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE? ANYONE WHICH TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 89? NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 4, ORDINANCE 90-2021-22, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF HUNTER WINN AND KOLT MILAM. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE 90? IF YOU WILL, GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

>> SIR, MY NAME IS KOLM MILAM. I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER PASSING THE REZONING FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. IN CLARKSVILLE, THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN A STEADY INCREASE IN THE DEMAND FOR HOUSING MAKING BUYING A HOME UNAFFORDABLE.

I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN YOUNG ADULTS, MY AGE, STRUGGLE TO AFFORD TO BUY FIRST HOME OFF THE MARKET.

BECAUSE OF THE MARKET, THE ONLY WAY TO COMBAT THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE IS UTILIZE THE LAND WE HAVE.

THIS IS WHY THE ZONING CHANGE -- THIS IS WHY I LIKE ZONING CHANGE TO BE CONSIDERED SO R6 CAN BE DEVELOPED.

I FIND THIS WILL ONLY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY IN A POSITIVE WAY.

I NEED MAPLEMERE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED.

THE STRUCTURE WILL BE FACING WISDOM STREET AS WELL AS THE ROAD ACCESS. EXISTING STRUCTURE ALREADY ON THE PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY THE SAME SIZE OF THE FAMILY HOME THAT WOULD BE BUILT. THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WILL BE TORE DOWN, REPLACED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE HEARD AND THAT I WOULD ANYTHING TO ACCOMMODATE, WHETHER THAT MEANS PLANTING TREES OR ADDING A FENCE TO ASSURE THEIR COMMUNITY HAS PRIVACY.

THE DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT AFFECT ANY GREEN SPACE, NO TREES WILL BE REMOVED, JUST SOME UNDER GROWTH.

ALSO, I KNOW THERE'S A CONCERN WITH THE 90-DEGREE TURN.

HOWEVER, THE HOME IS CURRENTLY BUILT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 90-DEGREE TURN. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS NO ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENCE.

I WANT TO ADDRESS AND ENSURE EVERYONE THAT THE LOOKS OF THE HOME WILL BE TRENDY AND MODERN. YOUNG ADULTS ENJOY R6.

I GREW UP IN A CONDO. RESIDENTS HAVE MOVED OUT, HOMES TORE DOWN AND NEVER REPLACED. I BELIEVE THE REZONING WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY AND A GREAT WAY TO START IS WITH THIS REZONING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO

SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, MR. MILAM.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE SAME SIZE. WHAT IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT'S THERE? FROM THE PICTURE WE SAW, IT DIDN'T LIKE IT WAS ANYTHING VERY BIG.

>> IT IS A GOOD-SIZED. TWO STORY A SHED, TWO STORY, WATER AND IT HAS ELECTRIC. BUT IT IS APPROXIMATELY -- TWO FOOT WIDER THE HOME THAT WOULD GO THERE.

ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO TEN FOOT LONGER THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW.

IT IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS ALREADY BUILT.

TWO-STORY STRUCTURE THAT'S BACK THERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF -- IT IS INCLUDED IN THIS AGENDA, CONCERNS ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE IN THE AREA. COULD YOU SPEAK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. YOU DID MENTION PLANTING TREES.

>> SO THERE WILL BE NO TREES TORE DOWN.

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WHERE THIS HOME WILL SIT WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY MAJOR TREES TO BE CUT. ONLY UNDER BRUSH.

OVERGROWN UNDER BRUSH WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS AT AND LITTLE OVERGROWN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

I DID SPEAK TO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, I UNDERSTAND HIS CONCERN WITH HIS BACKYARD HAVING A HOME IN IT.

I SAID I WOULD BE BUILDING TO PLANT EVERGREENS TO BLOCK OFF, HAVE SPACE BLOCKED OR FENCE OR WHATEVER HE WOULD LIKE.

>> AND THEN SINCE YOUR REBUILDING THE STRUCTURE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT IS JUST A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND IS IT

SALE, RENT, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN? >> THE PLAN IS NOT REALLY ESTABLISHED YET. IT IS TO SEE BETTER UTILIZE BACKYARD. IT HAS ACCESS TO ANOTHER STREET.

WE WOULD LIKE TO USE THE ACCESS. I WAS TALKING TO MY BROTHER, MY BROTHER ACTUALLY LIVES -- HAS BEEN A CLARKSVILLE RESIDENT, HE HAD A FAMILY AND WITH THREE KIDS, MOVED TWO HOURS AWAY BECAUSE HE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN CLARKSVILLE.

AS I WAS TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT, WHAT A R6 WAS, IT IS AFFORDABLE HOME. HOME $200,000 PRICE RANGE WHICH GO PRICE NEW HOMES, YOU WILL NEVER FIND ANOTHER 200,000 HOME.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS. THE PLAN MAY BE SALE, RENT, HE

MAY WANT IT, WE DON'T KNOW. >> AND YOU ARE CURRENTLY THE OWNER OF THE HOME ON THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU ARE MAKING ANOTHER HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY FOR MAYBE YOUR BROTHER

OR SOMETHING POTENTIALLY. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SPOKEN TO IT, BUT COULD YOU GIVE SOME CLARITY, SO WHAT WOULD THE R66

ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT R1 DOESN'T. >> THIS PROPERTY HAS A BACKYARD, IT HAS ACCESS TO ANOTHER STREET WISWHICH IS WH WISDOM STREET.

THE BACKYARD ALREADY HAS A BUILDING BACK THERE, THAT WOULD BE TORE DOWN REPLACED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THE CITY DEVELOPED A R6 FOR A REASON, TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO

WITH IT. >> THANK YOU.

IS IT THAT THE RESIDENCE, IT IS NOT GOING TO LOOK THE SAME?

>> I HAVE TRIED TO -- I UNDERSTAND THAT IF I LIVE THERE, I WOULD BE CONCERNED, TOO. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS GOING TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTS ON MAPLEMERE, OTHER THAN THE DIRECT NEIGHBOR ON EACH SIDE WHICH WOULD HAVE TO SEE, SHARE BACKYARD WITH ANOTHER HOME. I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.

BUT I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM.

WHETHER IT IS A FENCE, TREES, WHATEVER CAN MAKE HAPPEN.

>> I APOLOGIZE, THIS IS REPETITIVE.

WALK ME THROUGH THIS. I THINK THAT IT IS IMPACTFUL.

YOU ARE DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY WITH YOUR BROTHER.

>> NO, NO, MA'AM. THIS WAS JUST TALKS WITH MY BROTHER. MY BROTHER MOVED TWO HOURS AWAY.

NOT SAYING HE IS GOING TO PURCHASE THIS LOT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS JUST AN IDEA FOR THE R6 ZONING. HE IS LIKE, I WAS EXPLAINING TO HIM WHAT A R6 ZONING IS AND THE REASON THE CITY DEVELOPED IT.

AND IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. A WAY TO CONDENSING THE POPULATION. IT IS FIXING A HUGE PROBLEM.

>> THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, CHILDHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> NO, MA'AM. >> I LIVED IN CONDOS ON WISDOM STREET. UP UNTIL LAST YEAR, WE SOLD OUR CONDO. SO WE HAVE OWNED, MY FAMILY HAS

OWNED IT. >> BUT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE

AREA AND THE FEELING. >> THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING ON WISDOM STREET. THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE A HUGE INVESTMENT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE IF YOU GO DOWN WH WISDOM STREET, ALL THESE HOMES THAT WERE THERE OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE WATCHED, DELAPIDATED, TORE DOWN.

NOTHING NEW IS HAPPENING OVER THERE.

IT NEEDS NEW LIFE. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A START.

>> YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE VOCALIZED CONCERNS. YOU HAVE AGREED TO PLANT TREES.

DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT WILL MAKE THEM -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY HAPPY, BUT TO APPEASE THE ISSUES.

>> I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS. IF I LIVED -- AND IT WAS MY BACKYARD, I WOULD HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THEY HAVE.

I'M WILLING TO WORK WHOEVER I HAVE WHO WORK WITH.

>> I LOVE THAT. AND THIS IS, IN YOUR OPINION, A WAY TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM THAT YOU SEE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH AND YOU HAVE DONE THE BREAST THAT YOU CAN TO WORK WITH THE BEST TU CAN TO WORK WITH THE SURROUNDING

PEOPLE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MILAM? COUNCILPERSON SMITH.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I LIKE TO SEE THAT YOU ARE YOUNG, INSPIRING MAN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE GOOD OF

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YOURSELF, YOUR FAMILY, WHATEVER. HOW MANY HOMES ARE YOU PLANNING

TO BUILD. >> JUST ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

>> HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL LIVE IN THE HOME?

>> TWO BEDROOMS? >> I WOULD IMAGINE ROUGHLY 1500, 2,000 SQUARE FEET. WE ARE NOT THAT FAR.

I KIND OF PRINTED OFF -- >> YOU HAVE A VISION.

>> I HAVE WATCHED PREVIOUS SESSIONS.

AND I HAVE WA WATCHED YOUR CONC. I UNDERSTAND THE WAY YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT R6. THEY LOOK LIKE BARNS.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE BUILT VERY CHEAP.

I WANT TO HAVE -- I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ADD R6 ZONING THAT IT HAS TO HAVE A HARDIER BRICK FACE, THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF LOOKING CHEAP.

>> DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE. >> SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHAT

I'M THINKING? >> ARE YOU SERIOUS?

>> A GOOD LOOKING HOME. THAT WOULD FIT ON A R6 LOT.

>> THAT LOOKS BETTER THAN THE HOMES NEXT TO IT.

>> THAT'S A MILLION DOLLAR HOME. >> THAT'S A ROUGH IDEA.

THAT IS A NARROW, SKINNY, TALL HOUSE.

>> CAN YOU HOLD THAT UP FOR THE COUNCIL.

YA'LL LOOK AT THAT PICTURE. >> I LOOKED AT TALL AND SKINNY HOMES ON GOOGLE. THAT'S A ROUGH IMAGE OF

SOMETHING I WOULD BUILD. >> SO WE CAN GET A PICTURE OF THAT. COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU HAVE

THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M THROUGH. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> THANK YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK, SINCE YOU LOOKED IT UP, WHAT DO YOU THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD COST TO SELL.

>> A ROUGH IDEA. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I GET EXCITED SOMETIMES. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD COST TO BUILD AND SELL?

>> I THINK YOU COULD BE IN THE 200 TO 250 THOUSAND RANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU DID ON THE INSIDE.

THAT ONE IS ALL HARDY. SO YOU PROBABLY DO A HARDIER BRICK FACE WITH SIDING ON THE SIDES AND REAR.

BUT IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU WENT WITH GRANITE, SOLID SURFACE, LBT, HARDWOOD. I DON'T THINK I WOULD GO EXTREMELY NICE BUT I WOULD GO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE GROUND.

>> I KNEW YOU WOULD MENTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> WHAT MAKES IT AFFORDABLE TT LOT.

AFFORDABLE IS THE LOT.

LOTS ARE SELLING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO THESE R6 LOTS MAKES AFFORDABLE LOTS, YOU ARE CUTTING HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR LOT INTO $40,000 LOTS, SAVING $60,000 ON

A PIECE OF GROUND. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MILAM? THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AND YOU HAD YABS WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 90? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 90? IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE FIVE

MINUTES. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KATE SMITH.

I, ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND, CHRIS LIVE AT 195 MAPLEMERE DRIVE, THE HOUSE ADD J ADJACENT TO THE PROY IN QUESTION.

WE DECIDED TO BUY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC NATURE AND OLDER HOUSES AND MATURE TREES.

OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS, WE HAVE RAISED OUR THREE NOW ADULT CHILDREN HERE. THANKS TO THE LACK OF FENCES, THEY GREW UP RUNNING THROUGH BACKYARDS, GETTING TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORS AND THEIR DOGS AND BUILDING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE HERE. THEY HAVE ALSO PLAYED EXTENSIVELY IN THE WOODS BEHIND OUR HOUSE WHERE FILLED WITH DEER, GROUNDHOGS, BARN OWLS AND HAWKS.

IDYLLIC NEIGHBORHOOD FEW BLOCKS FROM DOWNTOWN, ONE OF THE FEW AREAS LIKE THIS IN CLARKSVILLE. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS IS NOT TAKING A NEW AREA OF LAND AND REZONING IT.

IT IS SUBDIVIDING A CURRENT PROPERTY.

ONE DAY MORE THAN 12 YEARS AGO, MY DAUGHTERS TOLD ME THERE WAS A HOLE BEHIND GRANDMA JAN'S HOUSE. I WENT OUT TO EXPECT AND FOUND A SINKHOLE NOT FAR FROM MY HOUSE WHERE THE STREET STORM DRAIN LET'S OUT TO THE WOODS. THE SINKHOLE HAD TO BE REMEDIATED. THE CITY HAD TO GAIN PERMISSION FROM US AND ROGER GREER WHO OLD 199 MAPLEMERE AT THE TIME TO BUILD AN ACCESS FROM WISDOM STREET.

MY CHILDREN WATCHED LOAD AND LOAD OF INFILL TO MAKE THE AREA SAFE AGAIN. ANOTHER SINKHOLE OPENED ON THE SAME PROPERTY AND HAD TO BE REMEDIATED AS WELL.

THE CITY AGAIN USED THAT ACCESS FROM WISDOM STREET TO DO MORE WORK AT THE SITE. SUBDIVIDING THE 199 MAPLEMERE

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PROPERTY WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENT AL EFFECT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN MANY WEERS. WAYS.

NOT ONLY CHANGING THE ZONING FOR OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, ALSO ALLOW, MERE FEET FROM MY PORT PROPERTY LINE, CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE THAT WILL LOOK INTO THE FAMILY ROOM AND BATHROOM.

THE PICTURES SUBMITTED ORIGINALLY, THAT'S MY HOUSE YOU CAN SEE INTO FROM THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY.

BUILDING A HOUSE AND DRIVEWAY ON THIS PROPERTY WILL ALSO RESTRICT CITY ACCESS TO THE STORM DRAIN OUTLET WHICH NEEDS REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND IT WOULD RESTRICT ACCESS TO THE SINKHOLE REMEDIATION SHOULD THE NEED ARISE AGAIN.

I WELCOME NEW OWNERS, HUNTER WINN AND KOLT MILAM, THEY ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOUSE.

PLEASE, DO NOT ALLOW FOR THIS SUBDIVISION OF THIS PROPERTY.

KEEP THE CURRENT ZONING AS IT IS, MAINTAIN ACCESS TO THE ISSUES BEHIND OUR HOMES, PREVENT A SMALLER HOUSE FROM BEING BUILT DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOUSE AND, PLEASE PROTECT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MISS SMITH, COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, YOU ARE

ONE OF THOSE TOUGHIES. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANNING STUDY RECOMMENDATION, THE STREET DEPARTMENT DID ADDRESS THE ISSUE. THEY ARE SAYING THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES, NOR DID THE FIRE AND RESCUE -- I'M SORRY, THE CHIEF AND THEM, FIRE AND SAFETY, THEY HAD NO ISSUES.

SO IS IT MAINLY THE CONCERN ABOUT THE PRIVACY ISSUE?

>> IT IS NOT JUST A PRIVACY ISSUE.

IT IS THAT IT IS A CURRENT ZONING OF R1 AND THEY ARE ASKING THAT IT BE SUBDIVIDED. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE SOMEONE COMING INTO ANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ASKING TO BUILD A HOUSE IN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR BY SUBDIVIDING THE

PROPERTY. >> SO IT IS LIKE A JOLT, LIKE A

SKIP ON A RECORD. >> IT WOULD BE, YES, CHANGING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. CURRENTLY, THE BUILDING THAT IS THERE RIGHT NOW IS A SHED THAT WAS PUT UP AND THE NEIGHBORS WHO BUILT IT AT THE TIME USED IT TO GO WORK OUT.

IT HAS WATER AND ELECTRICITY. BUT IT IS NOT A LIVABLE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. SO THIS WOULD BE TAKING BIG SHED THAT I AM NOT FOND OF ANYWAY AND PUTTING A HOUSE WITH PEOPLE LIVING IN IT AND LOOKING OUT THEIR BACK WINDOWS AND LOOKING

DIRECTLY INTO MY HOUSE. >> AND THEN WE MR. MILAM, WILLING TO WORK, I'M ASSUMING HE IS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HE IS WILLING TO WORK WITH. IF THIS DID PASS, WHAT YOUR WORKING WITH HIM MIGHT LOOK LIKE TO US?

>> IF -- THE DIFFICULTY WOULD BE, IF HE WANTED TO PUT UP A FENCE OR TREES, IT WOULD TAKE 40 YEARS FOR THE TREES TO GROW UP TALL ENOUGH, THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED.

IT SITS DOWN BELOW MY HOUSE. SO THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR HIM TO PUT ANY KIND OF TREES THAT WOULD BLOCK THE VIEW BETWEEN OUR

HOMES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I GUESS YOUR HOUSE, IS IT THE ONE DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE ZONED? I SHARE A DRIVE WISDOM STREET

WITH 199 MAPLEMERE. >> ON MAPLE STREET, YOUR HOUSE IS SITTING ON MAPLE STREET. WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE ZONING, THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE ON WISDOM.

IT IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF MAPLEMERE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> THE BACKYARD CURRENTLY, YOU CAN STAND ON MAPLEMERE AND LOOK DIRECTLY ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN THROUGH OUR DRIVEWAY, THROUGH OUR OPEN BACKYARDS TO THAT ACCESS POINT:IT.

IT IS NOT A SEPARATE PART. IT IS PART OF MAPLEMERE.

>> SO BECAUSE -- IS IT THAT THE YARDS ARE OPEN, THERE'S NO --

>> THERE ARE NO FENCES. >> OKAY.

BUT THE DEVELOPER, AS PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, WILLING TO TRY TO SECTION THAT OFF SOMEHOW FOR YOU GUYS.

>> THEY COULD BUT IT WOULD STILL BE COMPLETE VISUAL ACCESS FROM MAPLEMERE DRIVE ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN TO THE WISDOM STREET BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED.

>> AND THEN I GUESS, ONE MORE THING, WITH THE SHED, HE HAS MENTIONED THAT THE CONDITION OF THE SHED AND YOU ALSO SAY YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT IS, WOULDN'T IT WOULD BE BETTER TO GET RID OF SOMETHING UNPLEASANT AND THEN MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING

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THAT IS BETTER IN VALUE? >> NO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE TAKING A SHED THAT'S NOT OCCUPIED, THAT'S JUST THERE, THAT'S A STORAGE SHED. IT IS NOT AN UNATTRACTIVE BUILDING BUT I DON'T LIKE IT IN MY BACKYARD, IT WOULD BE PUTTING A WHOLE FAMILY. IT WOULD BE PUTTING A HOUSE AND RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE, LIGHTS LOOKING IN MY BACKYARD AND IN MY

HOUSE. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> THANK, MAYOR.

IMISS SMITH, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR CONCERNS.

I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATIONS, THIS LITTLE YOUNG GUY INSPIRED.

DID HE EVER SHOW YA'LL THIS HOUSE?

>> HE HAS NOT SHOWN IT TO ME OR TO MY UNDERSTANDING TO MY

HUSBAND. >> THIS IS INTERESTING.

IT IS A NICE LOOKING HOUSE. I THINK IT WOULD LOOK BETTER

THAN A SHED. >> IT IS CURRENTLY A R1 PROPERTY. THIS WOULD BE A SUBDIVISION.

>> HAVE THE BOUNDARIES BEEN DRAWN?

>> YES. >> IF HE PUT A FENCE UP THERE,

WOULD THAT BE STILL BOTHER YOU? >> I MEAN, IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO APPROVE THIS AND HE PUTS A HOUSE IN, I'M NOT GOING

TO BE UNPLEASANT. >> I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION HE WAS GOING TO DO R6, BUT THIS HOUSE LOOKS BETTER THAN MINE, A WHOLE LOT OF HOUSES. I'M JUST IMPRESSED BY THE LOOK

OF IT. >> CURRENTLY, I HAVE A HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO ME THAT HAS A BACKYARD AND NO ONE LIVES IN IT.

I DON'T WANT ANOTHER HOUSE SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY AND

BUILT IN MY BACKYARD. >> BUT NOW THIS WOULD BE HIS

YARD, RIGHT? >> YES, BUT IT IS COMPLETELY VISIBLE AND THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY LIVED IN THAT HOUSE, WOULD

BE LOOKING IN MY BACKYARD. >> YOU SAID THOSE PEOPLE.

>> THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE HOUSE, WHOEVER LIVED IN THE HOUSE, WOULD BE LOOKING IN MY BACK WINDOWS.

>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUST FRUSTRATION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR

MISS SMITH, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST ORDINANCE 90.

>> SIR, IF YOU WILL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU HAVE FIVE

MINUTES. >> I'M CHARLES SMITH.

123 MAPLEMERE. I'M NOT RELATED TO THE MISS SMITH BEFORE ME. WANDA SMITH AND I THINK WE MIGHT BE RELATED BUT WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED THAT.

I JUST ASK THE COUNCIL TO BE CAUTICAUTIOUS.

APPARENTLY YOU ALL SAW A VERY IMPRESSIVE DRAWING OF A POTENTIAL HOUSE. MR. MILAM, AND I APPRECIATE HIS HONESTY AND INTEGRITY, SAID HE GOOGLED IT.

THAT'S NOT EVIDENCE THAT COULD BE USED FOR ANY COMMITMENT INTO THE FUTURE. HE ALSO INDICATED HE IS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE OTHER SMITHS AND PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHERE IS THAT AS A PART OF A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION, A COMMITMENT THAT HE COULD BE HELD TO.

I DON'T KNOW MR. MILAM. I ASSUME HE IS A FINE, UPSTANDING YOUNG MAN AND WOULD ENDEAVOR TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE CAUTIOUS, PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE IMAGE THAT YOU ARE SEEING. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE ULTIMATE STRUCTURE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND YOU ARE REALLY SUBDIVIDING A BACKYARD.

I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU, SIR, COUNCILPERSON

SMITH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUDGE SMITH, HAS HE TALKED TO YOU?

>> NO. >> HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANYBODY IN

THE NEIGHBORHOOD? >> I'M SURE HE -- I'M ON DOWN

THE STREET. >> FURTHER DOWN.

>> THEY ARE THE FENCE END OF THE STREET, I'M AT THE OTHER END OF

THE STREET. >> YOU DO HAVE A PETITION WITH HOW MANY PEOPLE ON IT. IT WAS ABOUT, WHAT, 15 PEOPLE,

SOMEBODY SENT ME THE PETITION. >> I HATE TO ADMIT THERE IS

ANOTHER SMITH INVOLVED. >> FROM ANOTHER MOTHER.

>> KATE'S HUSBAND HAD A PETITION AND I CAN ASK HIM, YA'LL KNOW

HOW MANY WERE ON IT? >> COULD YOU, PLEASE.

>> IT WAS ALMOST EVERY PERSON THAT LIVES --

>> ABOUT 25. >> THAT SPEAKS LOUD.

IT SPEAKS LOUD, THAT YA'LL ARE TOTALLY AGAINST IT.

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ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE

I GAVE OUR BAILIFF, I GAVE THIS FINE OFFICER HERE THE PICTURE IN CASE YOU GUYS WANTED TO SEE IT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND VOICING YOUR CONCERNS, OF COURSE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT THE PICTURE, THANKS.

>> COUNCILPERSON REDD. >> SO YOU ARE AWARE, HE IS NOT OBLIGATED TO BUILD THIS STRUCTURE.

YOU KNOW THAT. >> BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS IMAGE COULD INFLUENCE YOUR THINKING AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

I DON'T THINK THAT, FROM THE COMMENTS HE MADE, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE DRAWINGS OR ENGINEERING PLANS OR WHATEVER IS

PRELIMINARY. >> OKAY.

COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> ABOUT THAT, I HAD A QUESTION POP UP.

SO SINCE HE IS NOT OBLIGATED TO BUILD THAT, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE IS THINKING OF PROBABLY PUTTING, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS SOMETHING THAT IS WORST-CASE SCENARIO TO YOU THAT THAT IS WHY, I GUESS, YOU GUYS ARE AGAINST THE ZONING? WHAT DO YOU THINK HE CAN POTENTIALLY PUT THAT THAT IS

GOING TO HARM THE COMMUNITY? >> WELL, I THINK ALL OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOUGHT PROPERTY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS R1.

THAT'S A PART OF OUR REASON FOR SELECTING PROPERTY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND TO TAKE A R1, NOT A SEPARATE PIECE OF PROPERTY THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO REZONE, THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO TAKE THE BACKYARD OF AN EXISTING R1 AND MAKE IT A DIFFERENT ZONING. SO WE JUST THINK IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO DO THAT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE MOVED THERE IN GOOD FAITH, BELIEVING IT WAS R1 AND WE ARE THINKING THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CONTINUING.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. JUDGE SMITH? THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MAYOR, IF YA'LL HANG ON JUST A LITTLE LONGER, WE CAN SWAP

PLACES. >> I'M HOPING WE DON'T LAST THAT LONG. ALL RIGHT.

ACCORDING TO OUR CODE. IF YOU SPOKE IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 90, WOULD LIKE TO OFFER REBUT AT THAT TIME TO WHAE HEARD, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. OKAY, THAT COMPLETES OUR PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> MAYOR, I MOVE WE GO BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION.

>> MOTION MADE, PROPERTY SECONDED.

WE ARE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> AS A REMINDER, ALL MOTIONS WILL BE FOR APPROVAL.

87-2021-22 FIRST READING, THE RPC STAFF AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE.

>> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 87. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING 87. COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN.

>> ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS, CAST YOUR VOTE.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.

MA'AM CLERK. >> 11 YES.

>> ADOPTED, COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> 88-2021-22, RP STAFF AND COMMITTEE BOTH RECOMMENDED

APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 88.

ANY QUESTION OR COUNCIL REGARDING 88.

SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THE VOTE. MADAM CLERK.

>> 11 YES, 1 NO, ZERO OBJECT STAIN.

>> PASSED AS READING. >> 89-2021-22, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, I SO MOVE.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECTED IN FAVOR OF SECR OF ORDINANCE 89. ANY QUESTIONS, SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE IN MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE

VOTE. >> 12 YES, ZERO NO.

ZERO ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 89 IS ADOPTED, FIRST READING. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> ORDINANCE 90-2021-22, FIRST READING.

BOTH THE STAFF AND THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DISAPPROVAL. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE FOR APPROVAL.

IMPROPERLY SECONDED. AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

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COUNCILPERSON SMITH. >> YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU.

I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATIONS OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE YOUNG MAN IS SAYING. BUT ME BEING A REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THIS PETITION AND I STAND AS ADVOCATE FOR MY CITIZENS, MY CONSTITUENTS, SO I'M GOING TO YA'LL TO ASK TO VOTE WITH ME, VOTE AGAINST THIS, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I SECONDED THE MOTION AT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO DISAPPROVE THIS.

FOR ME, THIS JUST ABSOLUTELY MAKES NO SENSE.

I KNOW THAT THE PERSON THAT SPOKE HERE IN FAVOR OF THIS TONIGHT SAID THAT R6 WAS DEVELOPED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IF YOU WILL ACTUALLY LOOK TO THE R6 ZONING, IT IS FOR THE POINT OF INFILL.

AND THIS IS NOT INFILL. THIS IS IN A BACKYARD.

I KNOW THAT WE DO NEED HOUSES IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE HOUSE. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF -- MAKE SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE.

TO ME, THIS MAKES NO SENSE. I WOULD ASK ALSO THAT YOU VOTE

AGAINST THIS. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE

I HAVE QUESTIONS AND I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO ASK THEM TO YOU SINCE OUR FEARLESS MR. TYNDALL IS NOT HERE.

I MIGHT BE SPACING THE LAST MEETING WE HAD.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE TERM SUBDIVIDE BEING USED.

THIS -- IT IS LIKE A TRIANGLE. ARE THEY ACTUALLY ASKING, THEY OWN MORE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THEY ARE ONLY ASKING FOR A

PORTION OF IT TO BE R6? >> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, I

THINK THAT'S DIRECTED TO YOU. >> YES.

THEY HAVE THIS -- YOU SEE THE WHOLE THING THERE.

THEY HAVE THAT, WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FORS TO -- AND I THINK IT WAS REFERRED TO AS SUBDIVIDING BECAUSE YOU ARE DIVIDING THE PROPERTY AND TAKING THAT PORTION OFF AND THE REASON YOU KIND OF SEE THAT POINT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOT TO, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED, IT HAS TO HAVE THAT TO GET TO THAT ROAD FRONTAGE, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS A

ROAD. >> ALSO, IF THAT'S ALL R1, THEN THAT MEANS THAT THE ONE HOUSE UP HERE AT THE FRONT END, BACK END, THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE, THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PULL OUT. THIS HOUSE RIGHT THERE IS ALREADY THERE. THEY CAN'T BUILD A SECONDARY

HOUSE UNLESS WE ZONE THIS? >> CORRECT, THAT'S ALREADY A R1 ZONE. THEY HAVE TO DIVIDE THIS OFF.

>> OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOU FURTHER CLARIFYING THAT FOR ME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS, YOU ARE

SO THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS VERY INTERESTING ONE ONLY BECAUSE I THINK IT MAKES A VERY GOOD ARGUMENT FOR ADU AND MR. TYNDALL, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMING UP SOON IN CLARKSVILLE.

IF WE WERE TO HAVE SOMETHING OF THAT SORT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD HOMES AT A LOWER COST FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT MY PAIN POINT RIGHT NOW, ALSO, IS THAT -- MY MAIN POINT RIGHT NOW IS I WENT TO THE COUNTY ASSESSOR SITE AND LOOKED UP THE HOMES IN THE AREA. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS ON WISDOM AND GLENN STREET, A PARTICULAR INCOME.

ON MAPLE STREET, ALSO A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK ON WISDOM AND GLENN STREET, THE AVERAGE COST OF A PLAT, WHICH IS ABOUT 13 PLATS THERE, COMES TO 54,730, SOME WITH HOMES. AND AS THE YOUNG MAN MENTIONED EARLIER, OVER THE YEARS, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EXPERIENCED BLIGHT. SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TALK ABOUT IS GENTRIFICATION. IF WE DO NOT REVITALIZE OUR COMMUNITIES, WE WILL SEE GENTRIFICATION HAPPENING IN THESE COMMUNITIES. AND I THINK THAT GETTING RID OF A POOR STRUCTURE AND REBUILDING TO BE A BETTER VALUE WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT PUSHING THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OUT.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES, THAT WE LEAVE THEM AT RISK IF THEY AREN'T REVIAL AT REVITALIZED WITH NEW STRUCTURE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN. >> THANK YOU, I APOLOGIZE.

I ALSO MEANT TO SAY THAT, IT WAS TO USE THE TERM THAT MR. CON TYNDALL USED THAT WEEK,E REASON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ALSO AGAINST THIS, OR THE STAFF WAS AGAINST IT, YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT SPOT ZONING.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THERE THAT IS ABLE TO DO THIS.

NONE OF THE OTHERS CAN DO IT. SO ITS NOT AS THOUGH YOU WILL BE

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ABLE TO REVITALIZE ANYTHING WITH THE REST OF THEM.

THEY DON'T HAVE FRONTAGE ROAD. IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH OUR CURRENT LAND USE PLAN. IT IS SPOT ZONING.

>> THANKS, MAYOR. I WILL GET YOU AGAIN.

I'M SORRY THAT YOU ARE THE STAND IN FOR MR. TYNDALL.

R4 CAN BE APARTMENT AS WELL, CORRECT?

R4. >> UH-HUH.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO ALTHOUGH THE PREVIOUS POINT IS WELL TAKEN. IT IS NOT R6.

I AGREE. BUT WE HAVE GOT R4 AND R4 BUT ONE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS AREA AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE ACROSS THE STREET AND THE TWO AROUND IT ARE R3, WHICH ARE ARCHAIC, TURNED INTO R4S AT THIS POINT. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS PARTICULARLY BECAUSE I AM A HOMEOWNER MYSELF.

BUT I MEAN, IF THAT R4 AT ANY POINT GETS DEVELOPED, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ON MAPLEMERE DRIVE WILL HAVE APARTMENTS LOOKING INTO THEIR BACKYARDS. I THINK WE SHOULD CAPITALIZE ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE YOU, THAT HE REALLY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR AN AREA THAT HE IS FAMILIAR WITH. I UNDERSTAND THE COMPLAINTS AND I RESPECT AND APPRECIATE THE REQUESTS OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE. BUT I AM GOING TO VOTE YES.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS REFERENCING SPECIFICALLY TO WHEN IWWWWHISTLER STREET AND GLENN STREET, THIS WILL HELP THEM MORE THAN MAPLEMERE.

I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT MAPLEMERE IS IN NEED OF REVITALIZATION OR NOR DO I THINK IT IS GOING TO HURT THEM IF THE STRUCTURE LOOKS BETTER AND IS BETTER VALUE.

I THINK IT HELPS EVERYONE, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO SEE IT, BUT THEN YOU ALSO SEE EVERY HOME ON THE STREET, TOO.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH.

QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

THAT'S A NONDEBATABLE MOTION. SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE QUESTION, WHICH IS TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON ORDINANCE 90.

LET THE CLERK GET IT ON THE BOARD, AND WE WILL BE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION. WE WILL NEAT TO GET IT ON THE BOARD. TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROPERLY WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON ORDINANCE 90.

ALL MEMBERS, CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO

ABSTAIN. >> ADOPTED.

WE ARE NOW VOTING ON ORDINANCE 90.

ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> FIVE YES, 7 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> ORDINANCE 90 FAILS. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN YOU ARE

[7) CONSENT AGENDA]

RECOGNIZED. >> THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MAYOR. THANK YOU, WE ARE NOT IN THE

CONSENT AGENDA, MADAM CLERK. >> ALL ITEMS IN THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL BY THE COUNCIL AND MAY BE APPROVED BY ONE MOTION; HOWEVER, A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MAY REQUEST THAT AN ITEM BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION UNDER THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE REPORT: ORDINANCE 71 -2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF BEN KIMBROUGH, RINGGOLD MILLS PROPERTIES, LLC, BERT SINGLETARY, AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF FT. CAMPBELL BOULEVARD AND MILLSWORTH DRIVE FROM C-5 HIGHWAY AND ARTERIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 72-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF HUNTER WINN AND CODY HEGGIE FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF VIA DRIVE AND GARDEN TERRACE FROM R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ORDINANCE 73-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF CLARKLAND, BERT SINGLETARY, AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF PROFESSIONAL PARK DRIVE AND STOWE COURT FROM O-1 OFFICE DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDINANCE 75-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING

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ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF JOHNATHAN BLICK, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHERN TERMINUS OF SYCAMORE DRIVE FROM R-2 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-2D TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 76-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF BBMH INVESTMENTS FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF CEDAR COURT AND HERNING DRIVE FROM R-3 THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 77-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF JRS DEVELOPMENT, REX HAWKINS, AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NEEDMORE ROAD AND UNION HALL ROAD FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 83-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF BIZHAN EBRAHIMI, BRADLEY JACKSON, AGENT, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WOODMONT BOULEVARD AND GREENWOOD AVENUE FROM C-1 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ORDINANCE 84-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF MOORE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, INC, FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WILMA RUDOLPH BOULEVARD AND OLD TRENTON ROAD FROM M-2 GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. ORDINANCE 79-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE, RELATIVE TO ADOPTION OF AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE.

ORDINANCE 80-2021-22, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, ORDINANCE 130-2021-22, TO CREATE AND ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR A TOTAL OF $27,512,500.

ORDINANCE 86-2021-22, SECOND READING, ACCEPTING THE DONATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY FROM EXIT 8 PROPERTIES, A TENNESSEE GENERAL PARTNERSHIP, TO THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING A PUBLIC ACCESS ROAD TO THE CLARKSVILLE ATHLETIC COMPLEX. RESOLUTION 49-2021-22 A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE FOR SALE OF WINE AT FRESH AND FRESH INTERNATIONAL MARKET, LOCATED AT 2728 WILMA RUDOLPH BOULEVARD, CLARKSVILLE TENNESSEE 37040. RESOLUTION 50-2021-22 A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE FOR SALE OF WINE AT RIVERBEND WINE & SPIRITS, 1206 HIGHWAY 48., RESOLUTION 51-2021-22, A RESOLUTION APPROVING APPOINTMENTS FOR THE BEER BOARD, COMMON DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY BOARD, DESIGNATIONS COMMITTEE, LAND REGULATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, MUSEUM BOARD, REGIONAL HISTORIC ZONING COMMISSION, REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND TREE

BOARD. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND.

MOTION HAS BEEN PROPERLY MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

IN FAVOR OF THE CON CONSENT AGE, COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> SERGEANT, THANK YOU, SIR.

NOW, COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER A NO VOTE FOR 72-2021-22 AND 76-2021-22.

>> ITEM 2 AND 5. >> I WILL MAKE SURE I DO IT THE

RIGHT WAY NEXT TIME. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT ON THE LIST. COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS, YOU ARE

I WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE ORDINANCE 80-2021-22.

I WOULD LIKE TO RECORD AN ABSTENTION ON ITEM 14, RESOLUTION 51-2021-22 SINCE I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE POTENTIALLY BEING APPOINTED. I SHOULD ABSTAIN.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MADAM CLERK, IF WE COULD, PULL ITEM 9, ORDINANCE 79. MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD ALSO PULL ITEM 9, ORDINANCE 79. WE WILL ASK FOR A DEFERRAL ON

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THAT. WE WILL TAKE THAT UP UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE CONSENT AG AGENDA?

COUNCILPERSON SMITH. >> 83-2021-22, REGISTER A NO VOTE FOR ME. THANK YOU.

>> ITEM 7, OKAY. ONLY REASON I RECOGNIZE THE ITEM NUMBER, WE HAVE A LENGTHY AGENDA.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

ARE YOU READY TO VOTE, ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE.

NOW, CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

NOW, LET'S TRY ONE MORE TIME. THAT WAS PRACTICE.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THE VIDEO, MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO OBJECT STAINED.

>> THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU. WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 9, ORDINANCE 79 UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY WITH THE CHAIR'S PERMISSION, WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 10 ORDINANCE 80 UNDER THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WITH THE CHAIR'S PERMISSION. OKAY.

[8) FINANCE COMMITTEE]

WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT.

CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ORDINANCE 85-2021-22, FIRST READING, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, CBID, ORDINANCE 120-2020-21 . FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED

APPROVAL AND I SO MOVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 85.

COANY COMMENT OR QUESTION. SEEING NONE.

ARE YOU READY TO VOTE IN ALL MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 11 YES, 1 NO, ZERO ABSTAINED. >> ADOPTED, FIRST READING.

CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN. >> RESOLUTION RESOLUTION 45-2021-22 AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE AND THE CLARKSVILLE ROTARY CLUB.

>> THE FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

I SO MOVE. >> ANY COMMENT OR QUESTIONS FOR RESOLUTION 45. SEEING NONE, ALL MEMBERS CATS CASTYOUR VOTE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO OBJECT STAINED.

>> RESOLUTION 45 IS ADOPTED. CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN, ORDINANCE 8, PLEASE. AMENDING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, ORDINANCE 130-2021, 22, TO CROA CREATE AND A ADDITIONALO MOVE.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 80. I THINK COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS ASKED TO PULL, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNCILPERSON

MARQUIS. >> I HAVE A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT THIS WEEK. SO NOT TO DO WITH THE SMITH MANSION, THIS IS SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

SO PRETTY MUCH LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, YOUR BANK COMES TO US FOR A LOAN, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF LOANS.

AS THE BUSINESS OR AS THE BANK, RATHER, THEY ASK FOR SOME INFORMATION, COME TO TO FIND O, THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN OPERATING IN THE NEGATIVE SINCE 2014, SO ROUGHLY 8 YEARS.

AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A MEANS TO PAY BACK THE LOAN THEY ARE ASKING. SO AS THE BANK TRYING TO HELP THIS BUSINESS, YOU ATTEMPT TO COME UP WITH THREE PLANS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE RED AND ALSO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PAY BACK THIS LOAN, IN WHICH THE BUSINESS HAS NOT DECIDED ON OR -- AND THEREFORE, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE BANK CAN GUARANTEE THAT THIS LOAN IS GOING TO BE PAID BACK. AND THAT IS WHERE THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE IS AT THE MOMENT WITH THE PARKING COMMISSION.

US LOANING THEM $25 MILLION OF NO WAY OF THEM TO REPAYING US, OPERATING IN THE NEGATIVE FOR SO MANY YEARS, IS A VERY BAD MOVE ON THE CITY'S PART AND MISUSE OF OUR TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HOLD OFF ON THIS, EVEN THOUGH I 100 PERCENT AGREE WE NEED THIS, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT IF THERE IS NO WAY RIGHT NOW FOR THEM TO PAY US BACK AS A CITY, I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THEY CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AND PRESENT US A PLAN ON HOW THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE.

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AND THEN ISSUE THE LOAN TO THEM IS WHERE I'M AT ON THIS ISSUE.

>> SO I WILL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE

AMENDMENT. >> SECOND.

>> I'M SORRY? YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION --

>> I MAKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT.

COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THAT WE VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT AS WE HEARD TONIGHT, WE HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES, AND AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED UP HERE, THERE IS A TREMENDOUS NEED FOR PARKING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.

WE HAVE GOT A NEW EVENT CENTER COMING.

WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN THAT NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR MORE PEOPLE TO COME DOWN HERE AND SUPPORT THOSE, AT THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE. IF YOU THINK JUST ALONG FRANKLIN STREET, WE HAVE SEVERAL RIGHT THERE.

WE HAVE THE ROXY, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR DOWNTOWN, WITH THE EVENT CENTER COMING, WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE PARKING AND ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INCLUDED, BEING STRUCK OUT IN THIS AMENDMENT IS THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE CURRENT GARAGE THAT WE HAVE.

THAT WE KNOW NEEDS REPAIRS AS WELL.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THIS TO OUR

COMMUNITY. >> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE

SO I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A PARKING GARAGE.

I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT I LIKE THE IDEAS ABOUT THIS PARKING GARAGE, CUMBERLAND NEEDS FIXED. THIS ISN'T ABOUT THESE TWO PROJECTS. WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THAT IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO GIVE MONEY TO THE PARKING COMMISSION. AND I SAID IT UP HERE DURING BUDGETS, I MENTIONED THIS DURING BUDGET SEASON, THEY WERE IN THE RED. I MENTIONED DURING BUDGET SEASON THAT I WANTED TO GET RID OF THE COMMISSION.

MY SUGGESTION, AND I HAVE TALKED TO MR. BABYING BAKER IS ABOUT TE HAVE GOT TO GET RID OF A PARKING COMMISSION THAT IS ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS THAT DOES NOT HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND WE NEED TO PUT -- EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HATE THIS.

WE HAVE GOT TO PUT PARKING UNDER THE CITY.

I'M A PRIVATIZE, PRI PRIVATIZE. THIS IS ENTERPRISE.

WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM MONEY. THEY ARE NOT EVEN TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN HOUSE. SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS, NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO STOP THIS BECAUSE IT IS -- THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE. WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.

WE NEED SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THE PARKING AUTHORITY.

I BELIEVE WE USED TO HAVE A PARKING AUTHORITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD MAKE A NEW DEPARTMENT.

STICK IT UNDER CTS AND MAKE IT A WHOLE TRANSIT AUTHORITY THING.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE FIX IS. BUT I KNOW THAT THROWING 25 MILLION, THROWING MA MONEY IY IS NOT GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE. THIS IS GOING TO SNOWBALL AND BECOME A BIGGER PROBLEM. THERE HAS TO BE -- YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT. DID I SAY SOMETHING WRONG? THERE HAS TO BE SOME OVERSIGHT ON THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO THAT'S MY OPINION. I GUESS I WILL LET LANCE GO.

>> I WANT TO SAY, I KNOW SHE DIDN'T MEAN IT THIS WAY, WHEN SHE MENTIONED THAT I HAVE TALKED TO LANCE ABOUT THIS, SHE HAS NOT TALKED TO LANCE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE LANCE WEIGHS IN ON POLICY DECISIONS. UNLESS YOU ARE ASKING TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL. SHE TALKED TO ME ABOUT HOW TO GO ABOUT ACHIEVING HER INTENT THROUGH THE DRAFTING OF

LEGISLATION. >> THANK YOU.

LET ME JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE NOT WRITING A CHECK.

>> POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR. >> WE ARE NOT WRITING A CHECK.

LET ME ADDRESS THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP TO CLARIFY AND THEN

-- >> POINT OF ORDER.

>> I'M THE CHAIR, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES.

>> I CHALLENGE THE CHAIR. >> YOU CAN CHALLENGE THE CHAIR.

>> LET'S PUT IT ON THE BOARD, MADAM CLERK.

THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO CHALLENGE THE CHAIR.

DO I HEAR A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> WHAT IS THE POINT OF ORDER?

>> WHAT IS THE POINT OF ORDER? >> THE POINT OF ORDER IS, JUST LIKE IT TAKES -- WE HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE. THE CHAIR HAS TO WAIT IN LINE TO SPEAK. THAT IS PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.

HE CAN'T COME IN BETWEEN AND SPEAK IN BETWEEN EVERYONE ELSE, WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE HAS A MICROPHONE.

HE HAS TO DO THE SAIMG THING SAT WE HAVE TO.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.

>> LET'S LOOK IT UP. >> THE CHAIR ONE SPEAKS FOR, AND ONE SPEAKS AGAINST IS HOW IT IS ACTUALLY -- OF COURSE, WE NEVER

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DO THAT. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CHAIR

CAN ADDRESS ISSUES AT ANY TIME. >> ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU WILL FIND ANYTHING ON IT.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IT MIGHT TAKE ME A WHILE.

TO FIND OUT.

>> I TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S DO, SINCE IT IS LATE.

I WILL DEFER WE WILL GO DOWN THE LIST AND THEN I WILL ADDRESS.

HOW IS THAT? >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU ARE

CAN WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] TO EXPLAIN WHEN MONEY IS BORROWED AND THE ENTERPRISE PARKING COMMISSION DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, I GOT ON THE PARKING COMMISSION, I DON'T KNOW ALL OF IT. CAN MISS MATA.

>> WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE PARKING COMMISSION AND HOW WE ARE ESTABLISHING THIS CAPITAL PROJECT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAY THIS TACTFULLY. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE PARKING COMMISSION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, SINCE 2014, LETTING THEM KNE KNOW WE NEED A PARKING GARAGE AND WE NEED TO ADJUST RATES. THIS IS A LONG TIME THING.

THE DECISIONS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE TO INCREASE THE RATES SO THAT THEY COULD AFFORD THE GARAGE. SO, AND I TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAVE ISSUED BONDS, WE CAN ISSUE REVENUE BONDS THAT ARE GUARANTEED BY THE REVENUE STREAM OF THE ASSET.

WE CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE REVENUES TO PROVE. IT.

THIS HAS TO BE PROCH TO THE PROE STATE.

THE STATE MAKES DECISIONS ABOUT DEBT ISSUANCE TO THE LOCAL GACT.

THEY CAN'T DO THAT, THAT'S WHY THE BOND IS A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, GUARANTEED BY THE IF YOU GET FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES TO PAY THAT DEBT BACK.

THAT BEING SAID, FROM AN ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO ISSUE THE DEBT.

WE, THE CITY, ISSUED DEBT FOR GAS AND WATER.

BUT IT IS IN THE CITY'S NAME. SO IT IS ALWAYS IN THE CITY'S NAME REGARDLESS OF WHO IS PAYING IT BACK.

IT IS AN ACCOUNTING TERM AS TO WHO PAYS IT BACK.

SO IN ACCOUNTING WORLDS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AN ENTERPRISE FUND IS REQUIRED TO PAY BACK THEIR OWN DEBTS AND GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS REQUIRED TO PAY BACK THEIR OWN DEBTS.

AND IT HAS TO REMAIN SEPARATE. THE ASSETS HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR SEPARATELY. SO THE PARKING GARAGE HAS TO BE AN ASSET OF THE PARKING FUND. IT IS STILL AN ASSETS OF THE CITY BUT IT IT IS AN ASSET OF THE PARKING FUND.

THERE IS NO ACTUAL MONEY THAT CHANGES HANDS.

I, ALONG WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ARE STILL 100 PERCENT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FINANCES OF THE PARKING FUND.

THE CHECKS ARE STILL WRITTEN BY ME.

THEY ARE STILL SIGNED BY ME AND THE MAYOR.

JUST LIKE FOR EVERY OTHER FUND OF THE CITY.

WHAT WE WILL DO WHEN WE ISSUE THIS DEBT AND BUILD THE PARKING GARAGE, IT WILL BE A LIABILITY FOR THE PARKING FUND.

THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING IT BACK AND IT WILL SIT ON THEIR BOOKS. THEY WILL OWE THE MONEY, KIND OF LIKE CTE WHEN THEY LOANED THE MONEY TO THE BROADBAND DIVISION TO BUILD THE FIBER NETWORK. IT WAS ON THEIR BOOK, THEY WERE IN DEBT FOR $18 MILLION. I KNOW COU COUNCILWOMAN SMITH REMEMBERS THIS. COUNCILMAN REDD.

IT SAT ON THE BOOKS UNTIL THEY TURNED A PROFIT.

THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE, THIS IS A DEBT THEY WILL OWE REPAYMENT TO THE CITY UNTIL THEY CAN REPAY IT.

>> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> THAT'S IT, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU. THE NEW PARKING GARAGE, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, HAVE THEY ALREADY LOOKED FOR A PLACE TO BUILD IT? ARE WE BUILDING IT?

CONTRACTING THAT OUT? >> SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A SPOT

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WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT. WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CONTRACTOR NOW SO I DON'T THINK THAT I AM ALLOWED TO DISCLOSE TOO MUCH INFORMATION AT THE MOMENT.

THAT COULD BE UP TO THE MAYOR, I GUESS, IF IT GETS DISCLOSED.

BUT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED OR REQUESTED, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT. AND IT WAS A RFP THAT WENT OUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH THAT

CONTRACT. >> IF WE DON'T KNOW THE PLAN, WE'RE EXPECTED TO -- WE ARE EXPECTING TO AUTHORIZE $20,000 BUT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE PLAN?

>> SO EVERY TIME YOU APPROVE A BUDGET AND YOU APPROVE A CAPITAL PROJECT, YOU DON'T HAVE THE PLAN.

THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS COUPLE OF WORDS THAT SAYS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

THE E CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGR, SAYS BUILD A NEW PARKING GARAGE FOR DOWNTOWN. THAT'S THE PLAN.

AND THEN IT TAKES -- BECAUSE WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING THE RFP. WE CANNOT -- IF THERE'S GOING TO BE MONEY THAT IS SPENT ON ENGINEERS AND DESIGNERS, ARCHITECTS TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT CAN FIT ON THAT PROPERTY, BAW W BECAUSE WE DON'E THAT EXPERTISE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPITAL PROJECT APPROVED, WE CAN'T SPEND

THE MONEY. >> HOW DO WE KNOW $20 MILLION IS

ENOUGH? >> BECAUSE WE HAVE MET WITH A COUPLE OF EXPERTS IN THE FIELD WHO HAVE WORKED WITH OUR PROJECT MANAGER IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH A PRICE SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA.

>> LET ME ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

SO THIS WAS, WHEN THE RFP WENT OUT, IT WENT OUT AS A SEEKING PROPOSALS FOR A POTENTIAL DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT.

THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU CAN GO ABOUT DOING CAPITAL PROJECTS.

ONE IS YOU HIRE AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM OR ENGINEERING FIRM AND THEY COME UP WITH A PLAN, LIKE ARREST TARCHITECTURAL PLANS, ENG PLANS, THEY TELL YOU WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST TO BUILD WHAT YOU WANT. IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT, THERE IS A BACK AND FORTH AND THEY REDUCE THE SCOPE DOWN UNTIL THEY CAN GET A PLAN TOGETHER FOR WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD.

AND THEN ONCE YOU AGREE ON THAT, THEN THEY PREPARE SOME CONTRACT DOCUMENTS THAT WILL GO OUT, THAT WILL -- TO POTENTIAL CONTRACTORS. AND THEY WILL BID ON THE PROJECT OR SUBMIT PROPOSALS, ONE OR THE OTHER.

AND THEN YOU ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THAT CONTRACTOR.

THAT'S A SEPARATE CONTRACT FROM THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE ARCHITECT OR THE ENGINEER. AND THEY PROCEED TO BUILD IT AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT TYPE GOES. THERE'S ANOTHER WAY OF DOING BUSINESS, THOUGH, AND IT IS CALLED A DESIGN BUILD AND UNDER THAT TYPE OF CONTRACT, YOU ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY THAT HAS BOTH CONSTRUCTION CAPABILITIES AND DESIGN CAPABILITIES. WHETHER IT IS ARCHITECTURAL OR ENGINEERING. IN THIS CASE, IT IS GOING TO BE A PARKING GARAGE AND WE COULD PROBABLY USE AN ENGINEERING CONTRACTOR, WE COULD USE AN ARCHITECTURAL CONTRACT.

BUT THE COMPANY THAT WAS SELECTED IN THE ORIGINAL RFP PROCESS, THEY HAVE REQUESTED TO USE AN AIA CONTRACT, ARCHITECTURAL CONTRACT. AND IN THE CONTRACT THAT I HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND JOHN HILLBORN REVIEWING, MAYOR HAS BEEN ON IT, AND MISS MATA, TOO, IT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED, BUT WHAT IT WOULD CALL FOR IS FOR THE FIRM TO FIRST COME UP WITH A SCHEMATIC DESIGN.

AND THEN THEY WOULD TELL US, OKAY, YOU HAVE GIVEN US SOME PROJECT PARAMETERS. LIEK ONELIKE ONE WOULD BE THE L.

ANOTHER ONE, WE WANT YOU TO BUILD AS MANY PARKING SPOTS AS YOU CAN IN THAT LOCATION. AND SO THEY WILL GO BACK THEN AND TAKE THOSE VERY BROAD BASED PARAMETERS AND THEY WILL COME UP WITH A DESIGN THAT MEETS THE PARAMETERS .

AND THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE THE STUDY AND TELL US WHAT IT WILL COST. MUCH LIKE IN THE OTHER CONTRACTING WAY OF DOING THINGS, WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE SEPARATE CONTRACTS FOR THE CONTRACTOR AND THE DESIGNER, THEN WE ENTER INTO A NEGOTIATION PROCESS WHERE WE, GO, HEY, YEAH, WE CAN AFFORD THAT. OR, NO, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.

SO GIVE US -- AMEND YOUR DESIGN TO DUES TO RE REDUCE TO SOMETHIN

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AFFORD. THEY DO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

WE PAY THEM FOR THE DESIGN WORK AND YOU ENTER INTO A SEPARATE AMENDMENT FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.

BUT THEY DO BOTH. MR. HILLBORN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE CONTRACT WITH THE COMPANY THAT WAS ALREADY SELECTED THR THROUGH A PRESIDENE PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU HAVE

THE FLOOR STILL. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS. >> YES, MAYOR.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, RIGHT.

SO WE INITIALLY WERE GOING TO CONTRACT THIS OUT AND THEN WE DECIDED THAT THE CITY WOULD BUILD IT THEMSELVES.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE ALREADY PICKED THE SITE AND THAT WAS THE LOT BEHIND THE ROXY, THAT EMPTY LOT.

AND THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADM WRONG, SIR.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT ON POINT. SO THEN IT IS MY -- SO WE ALREADY HAD AN IDEA BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OTHER SITES AND USING A -- TO CONTRACT IT OUT, AND THEN WE ALREADY KIND OF KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THREE TO FIVE HUNDRED, RIGHT?

>> WE DON'T KNOW YET. WE KNOW UNTIL THIS FIRM GETS INTO DESIGN TO SEE HOW MANY SPACES THEY CAN FIT ON THE SITE.

>> ON THAT, BUT WE KNOW -- THAT IS --

>> FIRST AND COMMERCE. >> SO THEN MY NEXT THING, WE DO HAVE A PARKING COMMISSIONER, CORRECT, ON STAFF.

NOT VOLUNTEER. HE IS A PAID CITY PERSON.

>> PARKING MANAGER. >> AND SO HE MANAGES.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S GROWING PAINS.

I HAVE HAD MANY, MANY BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA CONTACT ME AND THEY ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE PARKING AS WE ARE GETTING READY -- I JUST TOURED TODAY THE IMPACT CENTER. THEY ARE A YEAR OUT.

THEY ARE A YEAR OUT TO OPENING DOORS, THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US TO FOR LEADERSHIP CLARKSVILLE. OUR BUSINESS OWNERS ARE REALLY VERY CONCERNED THAT WE ARE GOING TO OVERWHELM AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS TO PARK.

SO THEY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, IT IS NOT THAT WE CAN'T PAY FOR IT. THE CONVERSATION IS, RIGHT NOW, WITH OUR BUSINESS OWNERS DOWNTOWN IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. SOMEONE HAD AN IDEA OF HOW TO PAY FOR IT AND THERE WAS A GENERALIZED REVOLT.

SO WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE MOST EQUITABLE FEES, FEE SCALE, ONE-HOUR PARKING FOR $1.25, ACTUALLY, THE PROCESS.

AT THIS POINT, IT IS NOT A MATTER OF, WE CAN'T PAY POUR IT.

FOR IT.IT IS A MATTER OF WHAT IT FEE SCALE BEING TO LOOK LIKE.

NOW WE ARE REACHING BACK OUT TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE INCLUDED THE APP, WHICH I DON'T LIKE, BY THE WAY, BUT

ANYWAYS, DID I SAY ANYTHING -- >> YOU ARE RIGHT ON POINT.

>> SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS VERY CONCERNED AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SIT DOWN WITH SEVERAL OF THEM TO TAKE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.

SO I ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS.

IT IS MOVING FORWARD. WE NEED TO SUPPORT AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS DPRAJ BUILT.

GARAGE BUILT. WE HAVE ONLY GOT A YEAR, THANK

YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS.

>> I WANT TO ASK MISS MATA, CAN THEY CURRENTLY PAY FOR IT HOW

THEY ARE OPER OPERATING RIGHT N. >> THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE, 40 TO $50,000 EVERY SINGLE YEAR. SO THEY DON'T CHANGE SOMETHING, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY OF REPAY THE DEBT.

I WOULD NOT SUBMIT THAT TO THE STATE EITHER.

>> THAT IS WHY I AM SAYING I WOULD LIKE THEM TO COME UP WITH THAT PLAN FIRST SO THAT THEY CAN PAY FOR IT.

AND THEN WE CAN ISSUE THIS DEBT, IS ALL I'M ASKING.

BECAUSE IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO ISSUE A DEBT THEY CANNOT

PAY. >> COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M TRACKING.

THE -- WHERE DOES THIS MONEY COME?

TAX BASED MONEY. >> THE PARKING COMMISSION IS AN

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ENTERPRISE FUND, THEY RISE AND FALL BASED ON THE FEES THAT THEY CHARGE AND FINES THAT THEY COLLECT.

THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT. >> GOT IT.

>> HOW WOULD THIS IMPACT CONSTITUENTS, VERY CONCERNED, RIGHTFULLY SO, HOW WOULD THIS IMPACT THEM?

WE RAISE TAXES 20 CENTS? >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WILL NOT TURN THE FIRST SHOVEL OF DIRT OR ASPHALT ON THIS THING UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN TO PAY FOR IT AND IT IS EQUITABLE AND IT IS AFFORDABLE. SO WE ARE NOT GOING -- THAT IS NOT A PARKING COMMISSION DECISION.

THEY SET RATES AND SET POLICY. THEY DON'T DECIDE WHERE TO BUILD GARAGES OR HOW BIG TO MAKE THE GARAGES.

THEY MANAGE THE ASSET THROUGH THIS PUBLIC COMMISSION.

>> GOT IT. IS THE CITY GOING -- DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, MISS MATA.

>> I WANT TO USE CTE AS THE EXAMPLE AGAIN.

THEY DID NOT RAISE THE ELECTRIC RATES TO MAKE SURE THAT

BROADBAND REPAID THAT LOAN. >> DID NOT.

>> DID NOT, AND THEY CANNOT. SO WE WILL NOT RAISE TAXES BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITY ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAYING IT TO US.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES TO COVER IT.

WE CAN AFFORD THE DEBT. WE CAN PAY IT.

IT IS KIND OF LIKE USING YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND KNOWING YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT BACK AT SOME POINT.

AND PART OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, AND I HAVE EXPLAINED IT TO THE PARKING COMMISSION AS WELL, IS I WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RATE STRUCTURE IS.

WE WON'T IDENTIFY EXACTLY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT YET.

WE DON'T KNOW HUNDRED PERCENT. WE HAVE A BEST GUESS FROM EXPERTS, THAT IT IS GOING TO BE $26 MILLION TO BUILD AND REPAIR CUCUMBERLAND GARAGE. BASED ON THE 26, WE HAVE THE AMORTIZATION SCHEDULES SHOW WHAT THE PAYMENT SHOULD BE.

LET'S JUST HIT THE JACKPOTS AND THE GARAGE COMES IN AT $15 MILLION, THEN ONLY $15 MILLION IS GOING TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARKING COMMISSION TO REPAY AND WE WILL DEVELOP AN AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION HAS TO REPAY THAT. I WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE ABILITY TO BEAR, ANOTHER CONCEPT BETWEEN ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS. YOU CAN'T OVERBURDEN ONE EITHER.

SO WE WILL BE LOOKING, KIND OF LIKE A STUDENT LOAN.

WHEN YOU GO TO COLLEGE AND YOU FIRST GRADUATE, YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY PAY YOUR PAROLE WHOE STUDENT LOAN BACK.

YOUR PAYMENTS ARE SMALLER IN THE BEGINNING AND THEY GROW AS YOU

EARN MORE MONEY. >> IS.SO WE DO SOMETHING LIKE T.

>> S A LOAN DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR LOAN.

>> PAY BACK THE INTEREST, THE SAME INTEREST THAT WE ARE PAYING ON THE DEBT, WHATEVER THAT IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS YET, WE HAVEN'T GONE TO MARKET YET. BUT IT WILL BE THE EXACT SAME

INTEREST THAT WE ARE PAYING. >> THANK YOU, MISS MATA, AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE -- IF WE REMOVE THE 25 MILLION, I THINK IS THE TOTAL, IF WE REMOVE THAT, UNDER THIS AMENDMENT, HOW DO WE GET THIS PAID FOR? IT IS A NEED.

COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH, HOW DO YOU GET THE PARKING, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER'S CONCERN, BUILDING AFTER THE FACT.

>> SO AGAIN, WE NEED THE PARKING.

I'M THOUGHT AGAINST GETTING THE GARAGE FIXED.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING -- I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO THE PARKING DIRECTOR AS WELL. THERE ARE THREE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED. THE PARKING COMMISSION HAS YET TO MAKE A DECISION. IT IS JUST BEEN A FIGHT PRETTY MUCH WITH TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OR GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT DECISION. IT HAS BEEN YEARS COMING.

THEY HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT. THE SITUATION HAS GOTTEN WORSE.

THEY KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

I WANT THEM TO PICK A PLAN, SO THAT WAY THEY CAN GET OUT OF THE RED AND PAY THIS MONEY. THIS WILL THEN, WE SHOULD NOT ISSUE THIS UNTIL THEY FIGURE IT OUT.

THEY HAVE THREE PLANS IN MOTION ON HOW THEY CAN FIX IT.

BUT THEY HAVE REFUSED TO PICK ONE IS THE ISSUE.

SOME OF THEM ARE OF THE MENTALITY, THE PROBLEM WAS NOT CREATED WHILE THEY WERE UNDER -- PARTS OF THE COMMISSION, THEREFORE IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT PROBLEM.

BUT IT IS. THEY HAVE TO FIX IT.

>> SO YOUR PROPOSING THAT WE WANT TO SORT OF REQUEST POWERFULLY THAT THEY PRESENT A PLAN, PICK AN OPTION AND WE FUND

IT FROM THERE? >> YEAH, WE KNOW THE AMOUNT THAT

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THEY NEED. SO BASED ON THAT AMOUNT THAT THEY MAKE THAT PLAN TO THIS AMOUNT, SO THAT WAY WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A FUTURE MOVING FORWARD.

RIGHT NOW, THERE ISN'T. THEN ONCE THE PLAN IS SET IN MOTION, WE CAN PUT THIS BACK UP AND GET THIS STARTED.

>> THANK YOU. POSTPONING THIS TO KIND OF FLESH SOME OF THIS OUT, DOES THAT PUT US BEHIND OUR ONE-YEAR? IS THERE DIRECT AT ME, COUNCILMAN? WELL, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE COMPONENTS HERE.

ONE IS REPAIRS TO CUMBERLAND GARAGE WHICH IS AN ASSET WE OWN THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED. WE NEED TO MAKE SOME REPAIRS SO IT DOESN'T FALL INTO FURTHER DISREPAIR.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT WORKING FAIRLY WELL.

WE NEED TO MAKE SOME REPAIRS. THE $20 MILLION IS MERELY TO ESTABLISH A CAPITAL PROJECT. LET'S US GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL SIZE, DESIGN LOOK AS WELL AS COST AND THEN PART OF THAT WILL BE REVENUE.

IT WILL NOT ALL BE EXPENSE. WE HAVE DETERMINE HOW MUCH REVENUE WE NEED TO GENERATE AND WHAT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COSTS WILL BE. SO IT DELAYS -- IT COSTS A LITTLE BIT OF ANGST WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMELINE.

ACCORDING TO THE TIMELINE THAT YOU HAVE HEARD, THE FIRST EVENT IS IN JULY OF '23. COULD BE LATER, COULD BE EARLIER. WHO KNOWS.

THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. I WOULD HOPE WE CAN ESTABLISH THIS CAPITAL PROJECT, GIVE THE -- WELL, I'M GETTING OFF SCRIPT. I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

>> AND THEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO IF THIS AMENDMENT GOES THROUGH, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? JUST EVERYBODY IS PISSED AND -- THE PROBLEM DOESN'T GO AWAY.

>> BE CAREFUL WITH OUR LANGUAGE, FIRST.

>> I'M SORRY. EVERYBODY IS UPSET.

>> WELL, EVERYBODY IS INCOMPETENT SET NOW.

BUT WE NEED MORE PARKING. THE 5 MILLION WILL MAKE NEEDED REPAIRS. THE 20 MILLION IS PURELY PUTTING ON THE BOOKS, A MARKER HAMPTON THAT SAYSWE ARE LOOKING TO LOOKG A PARKING GARAGE. AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DESIGN AND COST ESTIMATES INCLUDING HOW TO RE REPAY THE DEBT WITH FEES D FINES ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEW

PARKING STRUCTURE. >> HOW LONG -- IF THIS AMENDMENT WENT THROUGH, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE THEM TO PRESENT A PLAN

THAT'S FEASIBLE? >> WELL, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT TIMELINE RIGHT NOW. THEY UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY.

IF WE ARE TWO MONTHS LATER THAN WHERE WE WANT TO BE, THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF WE ARE SIX MONTHS IT A YEAR, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.

THE WAY CONSTRUCTION IS GOING THESE DAYS ANY DELAYS COSTS YOU MONEY AND COSTS YOU A LOT OF TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU.

COUNCILPERSON LITTLE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS I SEE THE BIG CONCERN AND EVERYTHING. IS THERE ANY WAY TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THIS? I WANT TO OFFER UP AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AS FAR AS ADDING BACK IN THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE, IT IS A STRUCTURE THAT IS THERE AND NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AND KEPT UP.

I WOULD HATE FOR, WORST-CASE SCENARIO, WE TURN THIS AWAY AND THEN SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENED. I WOULD PREFER SAFETY OVER

ANYTHING ELSE. >> WE WILL N NEED TO GET THAT IN

WRITING. >> DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT?

>> YES. I WROTE IT IN WHERE THE NEW

PRICE WOULD BE AND STUFF. >> THIS WOULD BE, SO THIS WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MARQUIS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ADD BACK IN THIS CUMBERLAND GARAGE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR

$5 MILLION. >> YES.

>> ALL RIGHT, WHICH WOULD ALSO CHANGE THE AMOUNT IN THE PREFACE UP AT THE TOP TO $7,512,500.

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IN HIS ALLEYEDM AMENDMENT, ADDIE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE OF THE LAST SENTENCE THAT IS STRICKEN BY THE MARQUIS AMEND:DOES EVERYONE DO EVERYONE UNDERSTAND? LET'S MAKE A COPY OF THIS.

HANG ON. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT

MORE. >> LET'S GET EVERYBODY A COPY OF IT. NOTATED A -- A LITTLE AMENDMENT

TO THE MARQUIS AMENDMENT. >> I HEAR A LOT OF PUNS.

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>> COUNCILPERSON LITTLE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR AMENDMENT TO

THE AMENDMENT. >> OKAY.

SO THIS AMENDMENT IS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT 5 MILLION FROM THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR AND ALSO ADDS IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL STRIKE THAT, THE WHIC CUMBERLAND GARAGN NEED OF REPAIR TO EXTEND LIFE OF THE ASSET.

I DID THAT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES AND KNOWING THAT THE STRUCTURE IS ALREADY THERE, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE KEPT AND MAINTAINED.

ALREADY HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN ONCE TO FIX IT.

THEY DID PATCH REPAIRS, BUT IT NEEDS TO GET MORE UPDATED.

SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN. AND THE REASON WHY I KEPT THE 20 MILLION OUT, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING COMMISSION WORKING IN THE RED AND THEY HAVEN'T MADE A FEE SCHEDULE TO GET OUT OF THE RED YET.

I DON'T WANT TO -- I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE FEE SCHEDULE WOULD BE TO GET OUT OF THE RED, WHAT THAT IS GOING TO COST TO DO THAT AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WILL IT JUMP EVEN MORE TO MAKE SURE WE PAY BACK AND STAY IN THE GREEN AND OUT OF THE RED.

WHAT IS THE EXACT FEE SCHEDULE GOING TO BE.

>> SECOND. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING TO WHERE WE ARE DOING A SUBSTANTIAL JUMP TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY IN THE GREEN AND THEN THE PAY BACK WHAT

THEY OWE. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT, PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?

>> YES. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I HAVE BEEN ON PARKING COMMISSION, IT IS A THANKLESS JOB. EVERYBODY GETS ANGRY AT YOU FROM ALL DIRECTIONS AND THEY HAVE TRIED TO FIX THE FINANCIAL SITUATION TO ALMOST BORDERLINE REBELLION.

WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO PAY -- THEY ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO COME UP WITH A A COMPROE THAT WILL BE ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYBODY. WE NEED A PARKING GARAGE.

IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING GARAGE.

IF YOU WANT DOWNTOWN TO CONTINUE TO FLOURISH, THEN THIS IS THE NECESSARY STEP. THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOT, THANK

YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT?

>> NO. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT. I GUESS I CAN SPEAK TO THIS

AMENDMENT. >> NO, YOU ARE NEXT.

COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I AM AWARE THAT WE DO NEED THIS PARKING DOWNTOWN.

WE NEED IT DONE QUICK WITH IMPACT COMING UP, IT IS ESSENTIAL. THIS CAPITAL PROJECT MONEY IS SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO -- I MEAN, WE HAVE THE BUDGET COMING UP. WE HAVE IT COMING UP IN JUNE.

WITH THAT BUDGET COMING UP, THERE IS A LOT MORE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT WITH THAT NEW BUDGET.

SO FOR ME, THIS $20 MILLION IS COMING IN, FEBRUARY -- IT IS MARCH. LORD, WE ARE READY TO GO INTO BUDGET SEASON. ALREADY MARCH NOW.

WHY CAN'T WE -- WHY IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH US LOOKING AT IT THROUGH OUR BUDGET VERSUS TRYING TO DO IT NOW? WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST WAIT AND DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET SO WE CAN HAVE A BIG PICTURE TO LOOK AT.

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>> MISS MATA. >> THERE'S SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE, THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS GOING UP EXPONENTIALLY.

EVEN WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THE COST OF THE STEEL HAS SKY ROCKETED.

THE COST OF DEBT IS SKY ROCKETING.

WHEN WE FIRST CAME TO YOU TO SAY WE WERE PROBABLY GOING OUT TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY AUTHOR ALL ALL THESETHINGS, WE WERE LOOKINA 9 MILLION-DOLLAR PREMIUM. WHICH MEANS IF WE ISSUE $50 MILLION OF DEBT, WE ARE PAYING BACK 41.

WE ARE PROBABLY NOT THERE ANYMORE.

INTEREST RATES LOOK LIKE HER GOING TO START SETTLING BACK DOWN AGAIN. BUT EVERY DAY THAT WE ARE WAITING, WE COULD LOSE MONEY ON THE CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS THE INTEREST RATE AND WE WON'T MAKE OUR DEADLINES.

WE HAVE INTERNAL DEADLINES, SEPTEMBER 23, I BELIEVE.

>> TO BE DONE WITH THE GARAGE. >> IS WHEN THEY WANT THE GARAGE.

>> WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE YEAR ANYWAY.

DID YOU SAY WE HAVE A YEAR? >> THE IMPACT.

>> IMPACT -- [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE ARE NOT GOING TO MEET THE

YEAR. >> [INAUDIBLE].

>> SO WE ARE STILL NOT GOING TO MAKE THE YEAR DEADLINE.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, KAREN. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER OF 2023. THE KEYS ARE GOING TO BE THERE IN JANUARY 2023, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER 2023 TO

FINISH THIS GARAGE. >> POINT OF ORDER.

>> LET'S GET TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, PLEASE.

>> OKAY, YES, THAT IS TRUE. THAT'S FINE.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> COUNCILPERSON SMITH, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

>> YES, SIR. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE PERSON WHO HAS ADDED THIS $5 MILLION BACK IN AND I THINK IT IS GOOD-BYE TO BE 7,512,000.

BUT I GOT ON THE PARKING COMMISSION, I HAVE ONLY BEEN TO FOUR MEETINGS. AND I HAVE PUSHED FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH A VISION AS WELL AS A PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S OUR ROAD MAP TO WHERE WE ARE GOING. SO I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND, I EVEN PULLED OUT MY PHONE AND WE NEED A ROAD MAP, WHERE WE GOING? IS IT NORTH, EAST, SOUTH, OR WEST? IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROAD MAP TO WHERE YOU ARE GOING, YOU ARE GOING TO FALL. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING RATES. WE WILL HAVE A MEETING SOON FOR THAT. BUT I HAVE ALSO LEARNED YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO -- YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO MAKE MONEY.

IF WE GET RID OF THIS $20 MILLION, WE ARE SETTING BACK TRYING TO GET CONSTRUCTION SERVICE TO DO A PLAN OR TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO GET THIS GOING.

WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS IN OUR CAPITAL PROJECT SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING. WE HAVE WAITED TO LONG.

THE ARENA, OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER IS ABOUT READY. BUT WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK? IF WE TAKE THIS 20 MILLION OUT, WE'RE JUST PROLONGING THINGS. WE ARE PROCRASTINATING.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW. THE BALL NEEDS TO START ROLLING RIGHT HERE FROM THE CITY COU COUNCIL.

WE CAN'T KEEP ON PROLONGING THIS.

WE NEED SOME MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE NO MONEY, WE CAN'T GO FORWARD. MIGHT AS AS WELL JUST SHUT IT DOWN. SO I JUST SAY WE NEED TO PUT THIS 20 MILLION BACK IN HERE AND I THINK THIS ORIGINATOR OF ADDING BACK HIS AMENDMENT. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY, BUT, LISTEN, THE CITY IS GOING TO BACK UP THE PARKING COMMISSION. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET THEM FALL. THAT'S WHAT MISS MATA JUST TOLD US. WHY ARE WE WORRIED? WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS, SETTING UP CAPITAL PROJECTS. THIS IS NOTHING NEW.

YOU MAY BE NEW ON THE COUNCIL. YOU DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.

WE HAVE TO GET THIS MONEY TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.

WHAT I TOLD THE PARKING COMMISSION.

I WANT A VISION AND PLAN. I WANT US TO GO FORWARD, NOT BACKWARDS. FOR US TO TAKE OUT THE 20 MILLION, WE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THE PARKING COMMISSION FALL.

WE HAVEN'T LET NO OTHER ENTITY OR DEPARTMENT FALL.

GAS AND WATER, WE PUT ALL THAT MONEY IN GAS AND WATER SO THEY CAN GO BORROW MONEY. WHY WE CAN'T DO IT FOR THE

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PARKING COMMISSION? I'M JUST SAYING, WE GOT TO THINK FORWARD. WE SAY WE WANT TO BE FORWARD THINKERS, WE NEED TO SHOW IT. SHOW SOME SIGN.

THIS IS NOT AGAINST ANYBODY. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A POINT HERE. WE NEED THIS 20 MILLION.

WE NEED THE 5 MILLION. WE NEED IT.

CAN WE GO FORWARD, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS? IT AIN'T ABOUT WANDA. IT IS ABOUT GOING FORWARD.

WE NEED TWO PARKING GARAGES. AT LEAST.

MIGHT NEED THREE. I'M THROUGH.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK MY TWO CENTS.

>> COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

LET'S JUST PUT THIS INTO NUMBERS.

ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CHEAPER FOR US TO BUILD IT NOW THAN IT WILL LATER. INFLATION IS 8%, I THINK.

BUT THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR BASKET GOODS.

BASKET GOODS, GROCERY STORE PRICES, --

>> POINT OF ORDER. CAN WE ZER VOTE ON THE 5 MILLIO.

>> DOESN'T THE 5 MILLION RIGHT HERE FOR THE PARKING GARAGE.

>> WE ARE ON THE AMENDMENT -- HANG ON.

HANG ON. IT IS LATE.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLEMAN HAS THE FLOOR, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE

AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. >> THIS STRIKES OUT THE

20 MILLION. >> YES.

>> THEN THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

LOOKING AT GROCERY GOODS, 15, 2. >> HONESTLY, IF I MAY.

THE ARGUMENTS YOU ARE MAKING REALLY ARE TO THE AMENDMENT.

THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS TO SIMPLY CHANGE THE AMENDMENT TO ADD BACK IN THE 5 MILLION FOR THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE. WHAT YOU SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT, HEY SHOULD WE ADD THE 5 MILLION TO DO THAT OR NOT.

>> OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLEMAN.

>> WHY IS IT STRIKED OUT. >> THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL

AMENDMENT. >> THAT'S IN ERROR.

>> THE LITTLE AMENDMENT ADDED BACK IN THE $5 MILLION TO MAKE THE REPAIRS TO THE CU CUMBERLAND GARAGE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I WILL SPEAK AT THE NEXT AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> NO MAYOR, THAT WAS FOR THE --

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, DID YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

>> CALLING FOR THE QUESTION. >> PROPERLY SECONDED.

NONDEBATABLE MOTION. CEASES DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. SO WE WILL BE ON THE BOARD VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

AS SOON AS THE COLLECT GETS US ON THE BOARD, WE WILL VOTE.

OKAY, ALL MEMBERS, CAST YOUR VOTE.

THIS IS THE MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. ALL MEMBERS VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE. MAD AM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MOTION TO CEASE DISCUSSION PASSES.

WE ARE NOW VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

MA'AM CLERK ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE.

>> 10 YES, 2 KNOW, ZERO ABSTAIN. >> THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

>> MARQUIS AMENDMENT AS AMENDED SO NOW SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER LITTLE'S PASSED, THE MARQUIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE DELETION OF THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR $5 MILLION. THAT'S BACK IN.

>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> SO I WANT -- BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING, I WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS I AM ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS, I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE DEBATE WHEN THIS CAME UP ON THE FLOOR.

I'M ACTUALLY JUST ASKING QUESTIONS THAT MAVEN MAY HAVE BN ASKED. WITH THE PRESENTATION AND EVERYTHING, I DIDN'T GET ANY OF THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION I'M ASKING.

SO BACK TO THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL

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DEBATE. ABOUT THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT.

THE DEADLINE FOR IS SEPTEMBER. THAT'S WHEN THE GARAGE WOULD BE

DONE IF WE START IT TOMORROW. >> THAT IS THE PROPOSAL AS IT STANDS NOW AND THE GOAL. THE MAYOR SET. BUT WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS CAN GO LONGER. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

>> AND THE KEY, THE FIRST PROJECT AT THE IMPACT IS IN

JULY. >> BASED ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN

TOLD. >> OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SAT HERE AND TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST EVENT IS SCHEDULED TO BE IN JULY OF NEXT YEAR. WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ALSO HAVE MORE BUSINESSES THAT ARE EITHER REOPENING OR COMING BACK OPEN IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

HIERARCHHERE IN THE COMING MONTT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE DOWNTOWN WHICH IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING PEOPLE DOWN HERE. WE HAVE HEARD HOW THERE IS A NEED FOR PARKING, THAT'S WITH THINGS AS THEY CURRENTLY STAND TODAY. USING THE TERM THAT ONE OF MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS STATED, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY KICKING THE CAN. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THE PARKING COMMISSION HAS KINKED TO KICK THE CAN DOWN SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING.

WE ARE SACRIFICING OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.

WE ARE SACRIFICING OUR CITIZENS THAT WANT TO COME TO OUR DOWNTOWN BY PUTTING THIS OFF. AS WE MENTIONED, THINGS ONLY BECOME MORE EXPENSIVE. WITH ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH CONSTRUCTION. DEBT IS -- DEBT RATES ARE CONTINUING TO GO UP. WE NEED TO MOVE ON THIS NOW AND GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF RATHER THAN, ONCE AGAIN, KICK IT DOWN -- KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

SORRY, IT IS LATE, FOLKS. KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND NOT DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY.

I AGAIN ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT EVEN AS AMENDED AND LET'S GET TO WORK ON GETTING THIS PARKING GARAGE TAKEN CARE OF. I, TOO, AGREE WE ARE IN NEED OF TWO. RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO FOCUS

GETTING ONE DONE. >> COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO ECONOMICS.

GROCERY GOODS GOING UP 15, 20%. GAS IS GOING UP, YOU KNOW.

YEAR AND FEW MONTHS AGO, IT WAS $1.80.

NOW CLOSER TO $4. IF YOU TAKE THE AVERAGE FAMILY, THIS IS FOR EGG, TOO. EVERYTHING.

INCREASED COST OF SHIPPED GOODS. REALLY, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, DO WE WANT TO JUST BITE IT AND DO THE 20 MILLION OR DO WE WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WHEN EVERYTHING GETS MORE EXPENSIVE, AND, BE LIKE, WE HAVE THE PARKING GARAGE NOW, EVERYTHING IS GOOD.

IT IS 35 MILLION. TAXPAYERS, 35 MILLION NOW.

MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, GIVEN THE GLOBAL INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL SITUATIONS GOING ON, IT IS GOING TO GO UP.

THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.

>> MISS MATA, CAN YOU REMIND ME, PLEASE, WE PUT THIS IN A CAPITAL PROJECT AND WE SET THE MONEY OVER INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS. BUT YOU WILL COME BACK TO US WHEN IT IS TIME TO SPEND MONEY, RIGHT? JUST LIKE THE GAS AND WATER DID. WHEN WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY, YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK TO US TO VOTE ON, OR NO?

>> SO YOU ARE GETTING THAT AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING IT WITH DEBT.

>> I MEAN, SO I -- I DO THIS FIVE MILLION, WHATEVER, SORRY MY NUMBERS. I SAY YES TO THIS.

SO NOW I NEED $2 MILLION -- OR $200,000 FOR THE PLAN.

DON'T YOU USUALLY COME BACK WHEN YOU START DRAWING DOWN THIS DEBT? OR NO, THIS IS AN ACTIVE DEBT

ONCE WE APPROVE IT? >> THAT HE IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE CAPITAL PROJECT, ALL IT DOES IS CREATES THE BUDGET. AS LONG AS THAT BUDGET AMOUNT IS THERE, WHICH YOU HOLD THAT CONTROL, ONCE THAT CAPITAL BUDGET IS APPROVED, THE DEPARTMENT CAN SPEND IT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S CASH THERE TO PAY FOR IT.

THAT IS MY JOB TO FIGURE OUT WHEN I NEED THE CASH TO COVER

THE CASH FLOW OF IT. >> SO YOU WON'T ACTUALLY BORROW THE MONEY. WE MIGHT PUT ALL THIS MONEY ASIDE BUT YOU WILL NOT ACTUALLY -- YOU WILL BORROW THE

MONEY AS NEEDED. >> SO NORMALLY, YES.

THAT SWO WOULD BE MY RESPONSE. BUT THIS ONE, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE

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HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD, QUICKLY. AND BECAUSE I NEEDED THE CASH FLOW FOR OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE TIMING WAS RIGHT TO BORROW FOR THIS AT THE SAME TIME. THE REQUIREMENT FOR BORROWING FUNDS IS WE SPEND IT WITHIN THREE YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHY IT IS A SEPARATE ITEM ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN BORROW IT THEN. I DO HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WHEN DO DECIDE TO GO TO MARKET, LOOK AT HOW WE DID IN THE MARKET. I'M NOT GOING TO THE MARKET UNLESS IT IS RIGHT AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE CASH BECAUSE EVERYBODY PAID THEIR TAXES, THANK YOU. SO IT IS NOT LIKE CRITICAL THAT I GET OUT TO MARKET RIGHT NOW. SO IF THE MARKET IS NOT RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO WAIT. WE BASE THAT ON OUR FINANCIAL ADVISERS AND ME AND THE MAYOR MAKE THAT DECISION.

>> MAYOR, CAN YOU SAY OR CAN YOU ASSURE US THAT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS IS THAT THE PARKING -- WHAT IS -- NOT COMMISSIONER, BUT PARKING MANAGER, WILL PRESENT A PLAN OF HOW TO REPAY THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND OVERALL PROPOSED RATE? RATES CAN'T BE SET FIRMLY UNTIL WE KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS. SO HE IS GOING TO SET A RATE TODAY BUT ONCE WE MAKE THE PLAN, WE MAY HAVE MORE PARKING SPOTS AND WE MAY HAVE FEWER AND THAT RATE IS GOING TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY SPACES WE NEED TO PAY FOR THE DEBT.

BUT CAN YOU SAY WE CAN HAVE SOME ANSWERS?

>> HE WILL WITH, I WILL SAY THAT THE PARKING MANAGER IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING TO THE COUNCIL THAT.

THAT'S A MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS ISSUE.

IT WILL BE PART THE FINANCIAL PLAN THAT WE WILL PUT TOGETHER FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE. AGAIN, WE WON'T TURN THE FIRST SHOVEL OF DIRT UNLESS WE KNOW WITH ALL CONFIDENCE THERE IS A PARKING RATE STRUCTURE IN PLACE AS WELL AS THERE'S SOME FUNDING SOURCES COMING ALONG THAT MAY HELP REDUCE THE DEBT THAT WE HAVE TO ISSUE FOR THE STRUCTURE. THE PLAN IS KIND OF COMING TOGETHER BUT THE FIRST STEP IS TO PUT THE MARKER IN THE GROUND TO SAY, WE WILL HAVE A CAPITAL PROJECT.

AND THEN COME BACK AFTER WE HAVE ISSUED THE DEBT TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE NOT GOING TO ISSUE DEBT.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO BORROW MONEY UNTIL WE KNOW HOW TO REPAY IT.

>> CAN YOU JUST ASSURE US, THAT YOU WILL COME BACK AND BE

TRANSPARENT AND LET YOU KNOW. >> ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU JUST AS QUICK AS IT COMES TOGETHER.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY LAST BITE OF THE APPLE. TWO POINTS OF ORDER.

MISS LORI'S NAME IS MATA, THE SECOND ONE, IS DID WE EVER, WE CAN MADE, BUT ROBERTS RULES AND LEGAL SPEAKING, DID WE EVER GO BACK INTO SESSION TO DO THAT LEAST VOTE ON THAT AMENDMENT?

HAVE WE GONE BACK INTO SESSION? >> YES, WE WERE BACK IN SESSION.

>> GOT IT. THANK YOU.

MATA. MRS. MATA.

>> LET'S GO. >> HERE WE GO.

WHERE DO I START? [WHISTLING] SORRY, MAYOR, THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU ABOUT CLARITY OF THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION AND PARKING MANAGER. I HEAR PREVIOUS SPEAKERS SAYING THE WORDS, WE ARE WAITING ON A COMPROMISE AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING A PLAN, RIGHT? SO I AM NOT APPROVING $20 MILLION WITH THAT KIND OF LACK OF OVERSIGHT, ESPECIALLY ON THE HEELS OF 20% INCREASE LAST YEAR.

I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING COMMISSION.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE ON. I AGAIN, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, OR AT LEAST NOT PEOPLE -- I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF HAVING THE BUSINESS, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS ON THE PARKING COMMISSION, THAT'S A VERY VALUABLE INSIGHT AND THEY NEED A VOICE BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THEM VERY MUCH.

BUT THEY CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONES. AND THIS ACTUALLY FLOWS INTO, LIKE THE PARKING COMMISSION LITERALLY ONLY DEALS WITH DOWNTOWN. I HAVE PARKING ISSUES UP ON EXIT 4 THAT CAN'T BE ADDRESSED BY THIS PARKING COMMISSION.

I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT. WE CANNOT MAKE BAD DECISIONS

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JUST BECAUSE WE ARE JUMPING THROUGH OUR PANTS TO GET THIS DONE. IF THIS WAS -- THIS INTEGRAL, IF WE HAD THIS KIND OF TIMELINE, WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT SOONER. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THINGS THAT I SAY WHIM WHEN I AM SITTP HERE IS CRITICIZING PEOPLE.

I DON'T MEAN TO CRITICIZE PEOPLE.

IT IS THE ACTIONS. TO A PREVIOUS SPEAKER, JUST BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I KNOW THE CITY IS GOING TO COVER THE FAILING OF THE COMMISSION.

THAT'S WHAT I CONSIDER THE PROBLEM BECAUSE GO BONDS, I KNOW YOU ARE TELLING ME TO TRUST YOU, WE ARE BEING TO TRUST THE ETCH ECHELONS ABOVE US. GO BONDS, WE ARE PROMISING THAT IF SOMETHING FALLS THROUGH, IF ANOTHER COVID HAPPENS, THAT WE WILL RAISE TAXES IN ORDER TO PAY THAT BOND PAPER.

PAYMENT.WE ARE PROMISING THAT. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE GO BOND. I THINK THAT ACTUALLY COVERS EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED TO SAY. YEAH, THAT'S IT.

THANKS, GUYS. >> COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I GUESS, FINAL WORD WITH ME, I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE KICKING THIS DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK WE ARE HOLDING THE PARKING COMMISSION ACCOUNTABLE FOR 8 YEARS OF MISMANAGEMENT THAT THEY COME UP WITH A PLAN TO PAY FOR THIS.

THEY CAN VERY WELL TOMORROW, WE HAVE A PLAN.

AND THEN WE CAN VOTE FOR IT NEXT MONTH AND SET TO DO THIS GARAGE.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON REDD. >> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, I GUESS, FOR WHOEVER WANTS -- THE COUNTY HAS PUT THE MULTIPURPOSE EVENT CENTER THERE. DO THEY HAVE ANY SKIN IN THE GAME HERE FOR MAYBE HALF OF THIS BOND THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE WITH THE PARKING AUTHORITY? NO. 2, IS THERE AN AM MORAMORTIZATIONCHART THAT SHOWSY ARE GOING TO PAY? DOES THAT COME LATER? THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, WE ARE APPROACHING THE MONEY HERE TO PAY FOR THIS.

>> IF I MAY, LANCE. THE FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION HAVING SKIN IN THE GAME. THE COUNTY -- THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES. THE COUNTY WILL HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME. WE ARE PUTTING THE FINANCE PIECE TOGETHER AS WE SPEAK. THAT WILL BE PART OF THE WHAT WE BRING TO THE COUNCIL, LOOK HOW WE HAVE DONE THIS, WE PUT THIS PARKING GARAGE EXPENSE ON PAPER. WE ALSO HAVE REVENUE TO BALANCE IT. YOU WILL KNOW WHAT IS CASH THAT WILL OFFSET DEBT TO KEEP US FROM ISSUING THAT AMOUNT OF DEBT.

WHAT IS REVENUE FROM THE PARKING FEES.

WHAT'S POTENTIAL FINES, OPERATION MAINTENANCE, IT WILL BE AN ENTIRE BUDGET. THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE PRESENTED BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO SHOW YOU. BUT, YES, THE SIMPLE ANSWER, THE

COUNTY WILL SKIN IN THE GAME. >> WILL YOU BE MORE DETAILED?

>> I WISH I COULD. IT WILL NOT BE COUNTY TAXPAYER

MONEY. >> OKAY.

>> HAS THERE BEEN ANY TALKS OF THE COUNTY TURNING THE MULTIPURPOSE EVENT CENTER OVER TO THE CITY?

>> NO. TALK TO THE HAND.

>> OKAY. WITH REGARD TO THE SECOND QUESTION, TO SHED MORE LIGHT ON THE SITUATION.

OUR PARKING MANAGER, HE HAS PRESENTED, I BELIEVE, THREE GENERAL COURSES OF ACTION OR THREE OPTIONS TO THE PARKING COMMISSION. ABUT TO SAY, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, OR MAYBE THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE A PLAN FROM THE DESIGN BUILDER SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT IS GOING TO TAKE THEM AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MONTHS, IF NOT THREE TO COME UP WITH THE -- TO DO THE STUDY AND THEN COME UP WITH AN INITIAL DESIGN, SCHEMATIC DESIGN, AND TO TELL US WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST. THEN THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF BACK AND FORTH, OKAY, WE CAN AFFORD IT, NO, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT, YOU HAVE TO SCOPE IT DOWN SOME.

THEN IT IS ONLY AT THAT POINT, ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE EXPERT

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DESIGN BUILD COMPANY TELLS US, HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN BUY WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR THINKS THE CITY CAN AFFORD, THEN THAT'S WHEN YOU GO TO THE PARKING COMMISSION AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE MONEY, HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBER THAT WE ARE GOING TO EXPECT YOU TO BE ON THE HOOK FOR.

BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET THAT STUDY

BACK FROM THE DESIGN BUILDER. >> BUT WE ARE APPROVING

20 MILLION. >> YEAH.

THAT'S RIGHT. >> I REALIZE IT MIGHT NOT COST

THAT MUCH. >> IT MIGHT COST MORE.

>> BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN AMORTIZATION CHART THAT WOULD

SHOW THE PAYBACK ON 20 MILLION. >> FOR 20 MILLION, YES.

BRU YBUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HE THE DETAIL IN THE WE GET THE

STUDY BACK. >> OKAY.

>> COUNCILPERSON REDD, DONE? COUNCIL HOLLEMAN.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE NEED A PARKING GARAGE.

IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN. DO WE WANT 20 MILLION NOW OR EXPLAIN TO THE TAXPAYER THAT IT IS GOING TO BE 35 MILLION IN A FEW MONTHS? THAT'S -- ECONOMICALLY SPEAKING, I EXPLAINED IT, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.

IT IS GOING TO KEEP GOING UP. THE WORLD A GETTING CRAZY.

NOT GOING TO SETTLE DOWN ANY TIME SOON.

KEEP THAT IN MIND. THAT'S ALL, THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.

NOW I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT. SO WITH THE PARKING GARAGE, WE ARE FRONTING $20 MILLION, RIGHT? BUT I ALSO HEARD SOMEBODY SAY THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME INVESTORS -- DID I NOT HEAR

THAT. >> OTHER SOURCES.

>> THAT MIGHT COME IN AND HELP. >> YES.

>> SO THAT WOULD TAKE DOWN THE COST.

>> YES. >> AND I ALSO HEARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE ARE PAYING FOR THE GARAGE INITIALLY.

ONCE WE GET THIS ASSESSMENT DONE, WE WILL KNOW HOW MUCH REVENUE IS COMING BACK. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE REVENUE IS -- IS THE REVENUE WHAT IS GOING TO BRING BACK THAT $20 MILLION AND WHATEVER WE MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER SOURCES.

SO IT IS NOT LIKE WE ARE JUST -- WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK TO

PAY ALL THAT. >> CORRECT.

MISS MATA, BACK OUT OF SESSION. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOLD THE COMMISSION, BECAUSE IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK WITH THEM, OKAY, AND JUST LIKE WITH YOU ALL, I GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION, MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION AND IF YOU MAKE THE INFORMED DECISION THAT I AGREE WITH, THAT'S GRATEFUL IF YOU GR.

IF NOT, I'M SORRY I GAVE THE INFORMATION.

I HAVE TOLD THEM I WILL WORK WITH THEM AND HOLD THEIR HAND AND COME UP WITH THE RATE STRUCTURE.

WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COMMISSION.

THE COMMISSION HAS REQUESTED THAT WE LOOK AT DOING A STUDY BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE TO BE A PHASED-IN APPROACH.

WE CAN'T RAISE RATES WHEN THE NEW GARAGE OPENS, WE CAN'T FOUR TIMES THE RATE. WE CAN'T DO THAT.

WE WILL HARM THE BUSINESSES BY DOING THAT.

NOBODY WILL COME DOWN BECAUSE PARKING RATES ARE SO HIGH.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND PHASED APPROACH TO DO THAT.

SO WE WILL WORK ON ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.

THAT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK WITH THEM.

SO I WILL BE. >> THANK YOU, I'M TRACKING NOW.

>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >> THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR AND PROPERLY SECONDED. NONDEBATABLE MOTION.

YOU KNOW THE DRILL. WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT -- THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. MARQUIS AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION, MERELY VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION. VOTE TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON MASH MARQUIS AMENDMENT. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> WE ARE CEASING THE DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

WE ARE VOTING ON THE MARQUIS AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

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ALL MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 6 YES, 6 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN. >> AMENDMENT FAILS.

WE ARE BACK ON THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITHOUT AMENDMENTS.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ORDINANCE 80? SEEING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? WE ARE VOTING ON ORDINANCE 80 IN ORIGINAL FORM, MAIN MOTION.

EVERYTHING IS IN IT. NO AMENDMENTS.

THE AMENDMENT FAILED FOR LACK OF MAJORITY.

SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE ORDINANCE WITHOUT AMENDMENTS.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 6 YES, 6 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 80 FAILS FOR LACK OF A MAJORITY. OKAY, CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT,

MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON

[9) GAS & WATER COMMITTEE]

RICHMOND, DID YOU CARE TO BE RECOGNIZED.

GAS AND WATER, COUNCILPERSON REDD.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT YOU CAN PAY YOUR

CITY SERVICES AT. >> GOOD REPORT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT REPORT? WE ARE NOW READY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

WE HAVE GONE FOR ANOTHER TWO HOURS.

CAN WE ANOTHER QUICK BREAK. >> WE WILL BE IN RECESS UNTIL

10:30, PLEASE COME BACK AS >> 10:30 WE ARE ON NEIGHBORHOOD

[10) NEIGHBORHOOD & COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE]

AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE

RESOLUTION 44-2021-22 AUTHORIZING A REQUEST FROM NEIGHBORHOOD & COMMUNITY SERVICES TO AMEND ITS 2020-2024 CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF $1,882,125 IN HOME INVESTMENTS PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OF 2021 FUNDS. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE.

>> IS THAT A MOTION FOR -- >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> I SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR APPROVAL. RESOLUTION OF 44.

COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> SO I ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION LAST WEEK AND NOW MY IPAD IS ACTING UP. SO BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT. SO I GOT THE INFORMATION AND IT DOES NOT SAY THAT IT IS 15% MANDATORY.

IT DOES NOT SAY IT IS MANDATORY. IT SAYS UP TO FOR THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. MY QUESTION ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, WHICH I HAD TO GO TO HUD. I WANT MR. BAKER TO MAYBE EXPLAIN THIS, TOO, WHEN WE WENT TO GO TALK TO HUD, IT ALSO IS THE 15%, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, TALKING TO HUD AND LOOKING AT THE THING THAT MR. NEWBORN SENT US, 15% ALTOGETHER.

NOT PER PARTICIPATING JURISDICTION AND THEN THE SUB RECIPIENT GETS ANOTHER 15%. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO IT IS ON THE PAGE THAT MR. NEWBORN GAVE US.

>> I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THAT.

I'M SORRY. HAVE YOU GOT IT?

>> OKAY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> [INAUDIBLE] LAST NIGHT THE RESOLUTION FOR THIS JUST FOR THEM TO AMEND THEIR 2024 CONSOLIDATED PLAN WHICH WOULD BE THE 1.8 MILLION DOLLARS ITSELF, NOT HOW THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE DISBURSED.

>> IN THE EXHIBITS, IT HAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AND THE $1.5 MILLION, SO WE ARE VOTING ON ALL THAT HAVE.

>> YOU WERE TALK BEING TWO DIFFERENT ONES THERE.

>> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HOME FUND ARP, ADMINISTRATIVE

FEES AND THE -- . >> YOU ASKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL

ONES. >> NO, I DIDN'T.

IT IS 15 PERCENT ALTOGETHER. >> MR. BAKER, DO YOU HAVE THAT

INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU? >> I SEE THESE MEMORANDUMS BUT

I'M NOT -- >> DO YOU WANT ME TO SHOW YOU

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WHERE IT IS AT, MR. BAKER, THE MEMORANDUM?

>> WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ASKING. >> SO RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT IT IS IN THE RESOLUTION, IT HAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AT 15% AND THEN IT HAS THE ACTUAL MONEY THAT WILL GO TO UNITED WAY.

I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY, PER HUD GUIDELINES, WHETHER OR NOT THOSE 15% ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO P PAY THE AGENCY OR DOES IT COME OUT OF THE $1.5 MILLION.

>> THE RESOLUTION ITSELF DOESN'T TALK ABOUT HOW IT IS BEING ADMINISTERED BY THE NONPROFIT. IT SHOWS THE MONEY AS FAR AS THE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR 1.5 --

>> POINT OF ORDER. I HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> SHE HAD A POINT OF ORDER AND WAS ASKING ABOUT THE DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> AS I SAID, THE TENANT BASE RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS 1.6 MILLION AND THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATIVE IS 282, 318.75.

WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON IS THE RESOLUTION TO AMEND THEIR

BUDGET. >> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN.

>> SO THE CLARITY ON THAT POINT OF ORDER IS IF I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE 15%, IF IT IS ONLY VOTING ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES FOR THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE VERSUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT GO TO UNITED WAY. BECAUSE IT SAYS FOR THE PARTICIPATING JURISDICTION, IT IS ACTUALLY ONLY UP TO 5%.

>> I AM NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING I WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH.

I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WRONG. >> SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE WE

TABLE THIS. >> POSTPONE.

>> POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE GET THOSE ANSWERS.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO POSTPONE RESOLUTION 44.

>> SECOND. >> PROPERLY SECONDED.

WE ARE DISCUSSING THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION TO POSTPONE?

>> SURE. I WILL SPEAK TO THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS MONEY OUT, WE DO NEED TO GET THE MONEY OUT, THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO ADD IS THIS IS FOR MONEY WHO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN TAKE AN AMOUNT OF ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AND I DO THINK THAT POSTPONING IT IS PRUDENT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE REALLY CLEAR ON HOW MUCH THAT IS.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE, IF IT IS BOTH JURISDICTIONS THAT CAN TAKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO, YES, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, BUT MINIMIZE THIS.

THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, WOULD YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE

MOTION TO POSTPONE. >> YES, I DO, SIR.

I WOULD ASK THAT WE DON'T POSTPONE IN.

THEY ARE SET TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS TOMORROW.

IF WE POSTPONE THIS, THEN IT IS GOING TO NOT ONLY DELAY THEM DOING IT BUT THEY MAY END UP HAVING TO RENEGOTIATE THINGS, AND BY THEY, OUR CITY DEPARTMENT THAT HAS WORKED ON GETTING THIS DONE. I ASK THAT WE DON'T POSTPONE THIS. THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN VOTING ON THIS AND SO THAT WE CAN GET THE $1.8 MILLION AND GET IT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE IN NEED OF THIS, WHICH INCLUDES HOMELESS. IT INCLUDES PEOPLE THAT RUN THE RISK OF BECOMING HOMELESS. IT ALSO INCLUDES PEOPLE THAT ARE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC ASSAULT THAT HAVE NO WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS SITUATION. WE ARE PUTTING THEM IN THIS SITUATION LONGER. I ASK THAT WE GO AHEAD AND DECLINE THIS POSTPONEMENT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH VOTING ON THE RESOLUTION FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITIZENS.

>> COUNCILPERSON REDD, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IN THIS RESOLUTION 44, LET ME -- OF THE MOTION OR TO POSTPONE, I SUPPOSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M -- THE 15%, THAT IN EXHIBIT 8, THE 282 THOUSAND, THAT IS 15% OF THE TOTAL. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE IN SAY-SO ABOUT THAT? DO WE CONTROL ANY OF THAT AMOUNT? CAN WE SAY THAT THAT'S AN AMOUNT

THAT IS TOO MUCH? >> MR. BAKER.

>> THAT'S WHAT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR.

>> OH, I'M SORRY. >> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO

RESEARCH. >> THANK YOU, LANCE.

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>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> SO I SAY THAT WE SHOULD TABLE THIS BECAUSE I DID ASK THESE QUESTIONS LAST WEEK AND I DID NOT GET THE INFORMATION UNTIL YESTERDAY.

AND THE PERSON THAT COULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, THE PERSON THAT COULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, HE IS NOT HERE TO HELP US RIGHT NOW. AND THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD LAST WEEK THAT I ASKED. I SENT ANOTHER E-MAIL TO GET THE INFORMATION. I GOT IT LAST NIGHT.

SO WHAT I DID, I CALLED MY JOB WHERE I WORK AT HUD AND THEY EXPLAINED IT TO ME ONE WAY. SO AT THIS POINT, WE NEED OUR ATTORNEY TO EXPLAIN IT TO US EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE.

BECAUSE THEY EXPLAINED IT TO ME AS THE PARTICIPATING JURISDICTION IS THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

IF WE TAKE THE ENTIRE 15%, THERE IS NO MORE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES LEFT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. TOMORROW IT IS $1.5 MILLION TO THE AGENCY AND NO ADMINISTRATIVE FEES LEFT FOR THEM.

WHEN I SPOKE WITH HUD ABOUT IT, THEY EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THAT IS THE DECISION THAT IS UP TO THE PARTICIPATING JURISDICTION.

IF WE ARE THE CITY COUNCIL IN THIS JURISDICTION, THEN WE ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO DECIDE HOW MUCH ADMINISTRATIVE FEES WE ARE GOING TO TAKE. BECAUSE WE CAN'T TAKE THE WHOLE 15%. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE DOCUMENT THAT MR. NEWBORN SENT US.

THAT IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE IT.

IF WE TAKE IT UP AT OUR SPECIAL SESSION COME THE 8TH, THAT'S FINE. NOT TABLE IT, POSTPONE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MAYOR, CAN WE TAKE IT UP ON THE 8TH? CAN WE ADD IT TO THE SPECIAL

SESSION. >> WE NEED TO GET THIS MONEY OUT. I WOULD PREFER NOT TO POSTPONE IT. IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES, WE WILL GET IT OUT. WE WILL HAVE IT ON THE SPECIAL CALL NEXT WEEK. BUT I WOULD RATHER GET GOING.

>> AND I RESPECT THAT. BUT COUNCILPERSON ALLEN DID ASK IN ADVANCE AND SHE DID NOT GET A TIMELY ANSWER.

SO I THINK -- I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE MONEY OUT, TOO, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE THE V VE VERY FE FINAL ANSWER.

AS LONG AS WE CAN PUT IT ON TUESDAY'S AGENDA.

>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> WE CAN TRUST THAT OUR CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I KNOW THAT MR. NEWBORN AND MISE CONSIDERABLE TIME WORKING ON THIS.

I THINK THEY WOULD BE FULLY AWARE OF HOW THIS PROGRAM CAN WORK AND HOW THE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT.

THAT WAS WHAT -- I MEAN, THEY USED THE MANDATED INFORMATION REGARDING THE MANDATE IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. AND THEN ACCEPTED A PROPOSAL THAT THEY WERE GIVEN. SO IF THEY ARE AWARE THAT THIS IS HOW IT CAN WORK AND THIS PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION FEES CAN GO TO THEM, BECAUSE OUR DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON THIS, TOO. IT IS NOT JUST THE NONPROFIT INVOLVED, WHICH THERE'S A LOT OF WORK INVOLVED.

BUT THERE IS WORK INVOLVED ON BOTH SIDES.

AGAIN, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS POSTPONEMENT AND TRUST THAT THE EXPERTS THAT HAVE SPENT THEIR TIME WORKING ON THIS UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THIS WORKS.

>> COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> THIS IS MY LAST TIME.

THE AGENCY THAT WE ARE GIVING THE MONEY TO HAS $600,000.

THEY HAVE ONLY SPENT TWO HUNDRED --

>> IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MOTION TO WHY --

>> POINT OF ORDER. >> WHY WE CAN PUSH IT TO THE EIGHTH. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF

MONEY. >> POINT OF ORDER.

>> CLEATLY COMPLETE DIFFERENT P. >> TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES OF MONEY, SAME AGENCY. AIM NOT THE SAME REASONS EXACTL.

YES, WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH THE UNITED WAY FOR SERVICE DELIVERY WHICH IS $600,000 BEFORE. THEY ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF SERVICE DELIVERY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> SO IF WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT WE ARE PROVIDING RENT SUBSIDIES AND OTHER SUBSIDIES FOR PEOPLE AS IT RELATES TO COVID, THEN THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY BY THE 8TH OF MARCH.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON REDD, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> IF WE POSTPONE IT JUST UNTIL TUESDAY, IT IS ALMOST FRIDAY ANYWAY.

AS LONG AS THAT'S THE DATE. I DON'T WANT TO POSTPONED A WHOLE MONTH. I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE A DATE CERTAIN. THERE IS NO OBJECTION, TUESDAY

IS FINE. >> ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE? WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOST TO MOO POSTPONE RESOLUTION 44. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR

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VOTE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 8 YES, 4 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN. >> RESOLUTION 44 IS POSTPONED UNTIL NEXT TUESDAY. CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS COMING MONDAY, WE WILL BE HAVING A TOWN HALL WHICH INVOLVES THE LEADERS OF THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT HEADS.

AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR FAITH-BASED LEADERS TO BE ABLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT OUR CITY HAS TO OFFER SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN -- I APOLOGIZE, MOVING BETWEEN THINGS.

I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT ON MARCE WILLIAM BEACH CENTER, MA MAYOR E PITTS WILL DISCUSS FURTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

ALSO DISCUSS THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT V HAVE OCCURRED BASED ON TE FIRST TOWN HALL MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND. PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD.

SPECIAL THANKS TO LA VOLCANOVONY

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN REFERENCE TO THE EVENT ON MARCH 7, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE THERE AS WELL SO THAT YOU CAN HEAR THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO SHARE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE HELD 5:3E REGIONAL AIRPORT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MAYOR. >> THANK THANK YOU.

COUNCILPERSON RICHMOND, DID YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED.

>> COULD YOU GIVE THE FAITH BASED.

>> MARCH 7, 5:30, CLARKSVILLE REGIONAL AIRPORT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT WILL BE A TOWN HALL WITH THE RELIGIOUS BASE -- FAITH BASED COMMUNITY LEADERS, WE WILL HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS THERE AS WELL.

A PRESENTATION GIVEN AND TIME FOR THEM TO ALSO BE ABLE TO GO TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. THEN THE OTHER IS ON MARCH 14TH, THAT ONE IS ALSO AT 5:30 P.M., THAT WILL BE AT THE WILLIAM O.

BEACH COMMUNITY CENTER. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OPEN TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ACTUALLY THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND TOWN HALL AND ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT CAME FROM THE FIRST TOWN HALL WAS THE MEETING THAT

WE WILL BE HAVING ON MARCH 7TH. >> THANK.

JUST POINT OF CLARITY, THE TOWN HALL ON MONDAY, IS THAT ON THE

CITY PAGE. >> THE CLERK WILL SEND IT TO THE MEMBERS. THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE ISSUED A NEWS RELEASE ALREADY AS WELL.

WENT OUT GENERALLY. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, CHAIRPERSON

STREETMAN? >> NO, SIR, THAT CONCLUDES MY

[11) PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE]

REPORT. >> THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW READY FOR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE,

CHAIRCHAIRPERSON HOLLEMAN. >> WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS COMING UP WITH PARKS AND REC. HIGHLIGHT A FEW.

APRIL 9, CIVIL WAR ARTIFACT DISPLAY, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY COOL. WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES RIGHT NOW. FIVE FULL-TIME, 2 21 PART-TIME OPEN POSITIONS. IF YOU NEED A JOB, APPLY.

WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER. THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY REPORT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE REPORT? SEEING NONE. WE ARE NOW READY FOR PUBLIC

[12) PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]

SAFETY COMTION, CHAIRPERSON HOLLEMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

I THINK WE PUT ORDINANCE 79. >> FIRST UP.

>> ITEM 9, ORDINANCE 79. >> GO AHEAD, ORDINANCE 79- 2021-22. UPDATED VERSION OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I WOULD LIKE TO I GUESS PUT IT ON THE TABLE FIRST, MOTION APPROVAL.

>> MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, DEFER THIS TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

THERE IS A BOARD OF APPEALS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND SO I THINK IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ISSUE.

>> BEFORE YOU DO THAT, IT IS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE.

WE JUST -- WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PUT A SOLID GROUP OF BOARD OF

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APPEALS TOGETHER TO PRESENT IT AS COMPANION TO THIS ORDINANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR DEFERRAL.

WE WOULD RATHER GET IT RIGHT THAN DO IT FAST.

SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL IN APRIL, REGULAR SESSION, VERSUS THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AGAIN. IT IS JUST A MATTER OF BRINGING A SLATE OF NOMINEES FOR THE APPEALS BOARD.

>> OKAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER TO APRIL.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO DEFER ORDINANCE 79 UNTIL APRIL, REGULAR SESSION.

ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THAT MOTION? HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS, CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED, MADAM CLERK.

>> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO ABS ABSTAIN.

>> TRANSPOPUBLIC SAFETY COMMITT. >> WE HAD 11 STRUCTURE FIRES, THE PREVIOUS MONTH, IN JANUARY, WE HAD 1352 CALLS, 52% WERE RESCUE. 11 FIRES AS WELL.

WE SAW A SMALL DECREASE IN OVERALL REPORTS.

WE DID SWEAR IN SIX NEW OFFICERS BUT WE DO HAVE 14 POSITIONS OPEN FOR THE SWORN OFFICER POSITIONS AND WE NEED OFFICERS.

WE NEED GOOD PEOPLE. AGAIN, LOOK AT CITY JOBS.

WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER. FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED.

GOING ON TO BUILDINGS AND CODES, LET'S SEE HERE, FEBRUARY, TOTAL INSPECTIONS 2693. JANUARY, 2298.

FOR THE -- THAT'S FOR TOTAL INSPECTIONS.

FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE -- I CAN'T READ MY OWN HANDWRITING. FEBRUARY, WE HAD 171 NEW CASES, JANUARY 161. FEBRUARY, WE HAD 11 WORK CALLS.

JANUARY WE HAD 13 WORK CALLS. THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY REPORT.

[13) TRANSPORTATION-STREETS-GARAGE COMMITTEE]

>> THANK, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT. NOW READY FOR TRANSPORTATION, STREETS AND GARAGE COMMITTEE, CHAIRCHAIRPERSON SMITH.

>> THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON REPORT IS AS FOLLOWS. CTS TRANSPORTED 36,062 PASSENGERS FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

SENIOR CITIZENS FOR THE TOTAL MONTH OF FEBRUARY WAS 5,396.

RESPONSE FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY 2,724.

CTS HAS ADDED AN HOUR AND A HALF SERVICE TO THE HILLDALE ROUTE 5.

THIS NEW SERVICE CUT WAIT TEAMS TIMESFOR THE BUS IN HALF.

AND TO BETTER SERVE GREEN WOOD AND RED RIVERSIDE AREAS.

PLEASE DON'T FORGET THAT YOU CAN NOW PURCHASE YOUR BUS FARE FROM YOUR SMARTPHONE. DOWNLOAD THE TOKEN TRANSIT APP.

THAT CONCLUDES THAT REPORT. WE WILL NOW HAVE THE STREET DEPARTMENT. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS IN SHORTHAND. I WILL DO THE BEST I CAN.

WORK ORDERS COMPLETED WAS 161. PAVING SCHEDULED, NEW PROVIDENCE AREA, SUBDIVISION, I DON'T KNOW THE DATE, I DON'T KNOW THE TIME.

SPRING TREE LIMB PICKUP INFORMATION, BEGINNING MARCH 14 THROUGH MAY 2ND, CITY RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCARD REGULAR YARD CLIPPINGS, LEAVES.

TO HAVE YOUR YARD WASTE PICKED UP, CONTACT THE PICKUP LINE ON MARCH 14 AT 931-472-3353. LEAVE YOUR ADDRESS WITH THE DETAILS OF THE YARD ITEMS BEING PICKED UP.

YOU CAN ALSO CALL THE STREET DEPARTMENT DURING THE REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS AT 931-645-7464. THAT CONCLUDES THAT REPORT.

NOW, THE CITY GARAGE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF WORK HOURS IS 427.

THE UNLEADED GAS INCREASED. IT WAS $2.56.

AND AS OF FEBRUARY 25TH, IT RAISED TO $2.85 PER GALLON.

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AND THAT'S THE UNLEADED GAS. FOR DIESEL, IT INCREASED AS WELL, FROM $2.56 AND IT WAS RAISED TO $2.90 PER GALLON.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS COMMITTEE REPORT?

[14) NEW BUSINESS]

SEEING NONE, THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW READY FOR NEW BUSINESS. ORDINANCE 81-2021-22.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS I SAID LAST WEEK, I'M GOING TO READ IT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD LET IT FAIL FOR LACK OF SECOND.

ORDINANCE 81-2021-22. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 5 OF THE OFFICIAL CITY CODE TO DELETE SUB-PARAGRAPHS (F) AND (J) UNDER SECTION 5-311.

>> MOTION? >> I MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, RESOLUTION 46-2021-22, RESOLUTION REPEALING RESOLUTION 42-2021-22 AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $56,500,000 IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING AND IMPROVEMENT BONDS OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE MAKING PROVISION FOR THE ISSUANCE, SALE AND PAYMENT OF SAID BONDS, ESTABLISHING THE TERMS THEREOF AND THE DISPOSITION OF PROCEEDS THEREFROM, AND PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY OF TAXES FOR THE PAYMENT OF DEBT SERVICE ON THE BOND. 245 RESOLUTION IS BEFORE.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT RESOLUTION 46? SEEING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 10 YES, 2 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> ADOPTED. NOW READY FOR RESOLUTION 47-2021-22 INITIAL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $52,000,000 IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT RESOLUTION 47. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE IN ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? ALL MEMBERS VOTED. EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 10 YES, TWO KNOW, ZERO ABSTAIN.

RESOLUTION 48-2021-22 >> AND NEXT, RESOLUTION 48-2021-22 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $56,500,000 IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING AND IMPROVEMENT BONDS OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE, MAKING PROVISION FOR THE ISSUANCE, SALE AND PAYMENT OF SAID BONDS, ESTABLISHING THE TERMS THEREOF AND THE DISPOSITION OF PROCEEDS THEREFROM, AND PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY OF TAXES FOR THE PAYMENT OF DEBT SERVICE ON THE BONDS.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN RESOLUTION 48. ANY COMMENTS.

SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE.

ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 9 YES, 3 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> RESOLUTION 48 IS ADOPTED. >> ITEM 5, ORDINANCE 91-2021-22, FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING THE DONATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY FROM HAZELWOOD DEVELOPMENT, A TENNESSEE GENERAL PARTNERSHIP, TO THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE FOR THE PURPOSE OF A SEWER PUMP STATION.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, SECOND, MOTION MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 91.

ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, HERE NONE, READY TO VOTE.

ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO

[15) MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS]

ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 91 IS ADOPTING, FIRST READING. READY FOR COUNCIL, MAYOR

COMMENTS, COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APOLOGIZE FOR DOING THIS TO YOU GUYS.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT TIME IT IS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT THE PREMIUM PAY SITUATION AND I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO ASK, LIKE, OBVIOUSLY WE WEREN'T THERE FOR THE DONATION MAKING ON THAT WHICH IS WHAT I'M PERSISTENTLY TELLING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REACHING OUT TO US.

BUT I WONDERED, DOES THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE ANY SAY OR OPTION OF ACTION GOING FORWARD IN REGARD TO THE PREMIUM PAY

DECISIONS? >> MR. BAKER, ARE YOU MAKING A

MOVE TO THE MIC? >> SO I THINK I RESPONDED BY E-MAIL. BUT I'M SURE YOU WANT THIS

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PUBLICLY. I NEED TO LOOK INTO IT MORE AND RESEARCH THE LAW. WHAT MY GUT TELLS ME, WITHOUT REALLY LOOKING M INTO IT, IS THT THESE FUNDS ARE FUNDS THAT ARE RECEIVED BY THE CITY, THEY ARE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE GENERAL

FUND -- NO? >> MISS MATA, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MATTERS REALLY.

>> IT DOES. THEY ARE IN A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT YOU ALREADY APPROPRIATED THE FUNDS FOR.

YOU CONTROL THE APPROPRIATION. YOU DON'T CONTROL HOW WE SPEND IT. $12.7 MILLION IN THE BUDGET, AND THE RULES, THE FINAL RULE DOES NOT SAY IT HAS TO COME BACK TO YOU TO GET PERMISSION TO SPEND IT.

YOU APPROVE, IF WE APPROPRIATE FUNDS, BUT THAT'S IT.

>> COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. >> SO I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION, WAS ANYONE UP HERE INVOLVED IN THE DECISIONS.

I THINK MISS MATA JUST ANSWERED THAT AND YOU GUYS WILL HEAR, BECAUSE I HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN THIS OUT, THAT THAT IS THE ANSWER THAT I EXPECTED. I DO WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT, IT IS 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND NO ONE UNDERSTANDING IT. THE CITY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR CITY IS A CORPORATION AND THE MAYOR IS THE CEO.

THE EMAILS WE ARE STATING IS THAT THIS COUNCIL WAS ACTIVE IN THE DECISION WHICH ISN'T TRUE. THIS IS ALL APPLYING TO WHO IS GETTING IT. THE COMPLAINTS WE ARE GETTING IS WHO IS GETTING THE MONEY. PEOPLE THAT ARE TIRED, THAT AREN'T GETTING THE MONEY, RETIRED, WHEN THEY WERE WORKING DURING COVID FOR TWO YEARS. WHILE THE COUNCIL HAS LITTLE OVERSIGHT IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY, THESE SITUATIONS ARE HIGHLY DIFFICULT WHEN WE REPRESENTATIVES DON'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR OUR CON STATISTIC CONSTITUENCY.I'M SORRY THIS IS .

I HAVE NO OTHER OPTION THAN TO SAY SOMETHING DURING THIS TIME.

THESE PEOPLE ARE REALLY UPSET WITH US ABOUT THIS.

SO I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, MAYOR, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU, AND THERE MIGHT NOT BE AN ANSWER FOR IT, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I GOT WAS HOW WILL THE REMAINING

MONEY BE USED? >> WE HAVE SUBMITTED OUR SPEND PLAN TO THE STATE. THEY HAVE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO HELP MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTY COMMITTEES TO WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THEIR SPEN PLAN, NOT APPROVAL, BUT IT IS FOR GUIDANCE AS TO WHETHER THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED OR WAYS TO SPEND THAT MONEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO US TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE WANT TO USE THAT MONEY? WE HAVE SUBMITTED OUR SPEN PLAN FOR THAT.

WE WILL PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH THE DETAILS ON THAT ONCE WE GET FEEDBACK FROM THAT. THERE'S NO SENSE PUTTING OUT INFORMATION IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. $134 MILLION IN POTENTIAL PROJECTS BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A FRACTION OF THAT TO SPEND.

12-POINT SOMETHING MILLION. >> THANK YOU EVERYBODY.