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>> JUNE 9, 2022, SPECIAL SESSION OF THE CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL IS NOW CALL TO ORDER. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER WILL SERVE AS OUR CHAPLAIN OF THE DAY, COUNCILPERSON LITTLE WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I INVITE YOU TO PLEASE STAND.

>> SPIRIT OF LIFE, GOD OF MANY NAMES BE IN OUR HEARTS BUILDING MINDS AS WE COME TOGETHER TODAY. WE MEET TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, TO USE OUR RESOURCES WISELY AND WELL, TO REPRESENT ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FAIRLY. TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT PROMOTE THE COMMON GOOD. WE RECOGNIZE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PAST AND FUTURE AND THE RIGHTS AND NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. MAY WE ACT WISELY AND WELL.

AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> MAYOR: MEMBERS PLEASE, REGISTER YOUR ATTENDANCE. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE ROLL.

>> ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILPERSON

[5) FY23 CITY OF CLARKSVILLE BUDGET Mayor Joe Pitts 1. ORDINANCE 139-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the 2021-2022 budget and approving the 2022-2023 annual action plan and budget and authorizing application for community development block grant and home investment partnership funds as well as other programs]

RICHMOND. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, FIRST ITEM ON SPECIAL AAGENDA, ORDINANCE 139-21-22, FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 2021-2022 BUDGET AND APPROVING THE 2022-2023 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND BUDGET AND AUTHORIZING APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP FUNDS AS WELL AS OTHER PROGRAMS. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE PROPERLY AND SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING ORDINANCE 139. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO OBJECT STAIN.

[2. ORDINANCE 140-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 budget and approving the Fiscal Year 2022-2023 operating budget for the Central Business Improvement District (CBID)]

>> ORDINANCE 139 IS ADOPTED, FIRST READING.

2. ORDINANCE 140-2021-22 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 BUDGET AND APPROVING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE PROPERLY A. SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, AREY? ALL MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE? EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.

>> 11 YES, ONE NO, ONE ABSTAIN. >> ZERO 140 IS ADOPTED.

[3. ORDINANCE 141-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the operating and capital budgets for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 and adopting the operating and capital budgets for fiscal year 2022-2023 for CDE Lightband]

FIRST READING. NEXT ITEM, ORDINANCE 141-2021-22 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 AND ADOPTING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 FOR CDE LIGHTBAND.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 141. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING ORDINANCE 141 IN SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE.

ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED, ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE

VOTE. >> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO

ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 141 PASSES, FIRST

[4. ORDINANCE 142-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the operating and capital budgets for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 and adopting the operating and capital budgets for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 for the Clarksville Gas & Water Department]

READING. THANK YOU.

READY FOR ITEM 4, ORDINANCE 142-2021-22 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 AND ADOPTING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 FOR THE CLARKSVILLE GAS & WATER DEPARTMENT.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 142. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING ORDINANCE 142? SEESEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, A? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR?

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO

[5. ORDINANCE 143-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the operating and capital budgets for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 and adopting the operating and capital budgets for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 for the Clarksville Transit System]

ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 142 IS ADOPTED, FIRST READING. ITEM 5, ORDINANCE 143-2021-22 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 AND ADOPTING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 FOR THE CLARKSVILLE TRANSIT SYSTEM. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 143.

ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING ORDINANCE 143? SEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, ARE ? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 11 YES, ONE NO, ZERO OBJECT STAIN.

[6. ORDINANCE 144-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 and adopting the operating budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 for the Internal Service Funds]

>> ORDINANCE 143 IS ADOPTED, FIRST READING.

ORDINANCE 144-2021-22 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING

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THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 AND ADOPTING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 FOR THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 144. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING ORDINANCE 144? SEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, ARE ? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR?

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 12 YES, ZERO NO, ZERO

[7. ORDINANCE 145-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 budget and establishing the operating budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 for the Clarksville Parking Commission, a proprietary fund]

ABSTAIN. >> ORDINANCE 144 IS ADOPTED, FIRST READING. NOW READY FOR ITEM 7, ORDINANCE 145-2021-22 FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 BUDGET AND ESTABLISHING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 FOR THE CLARKSVILLE PARKING COMMISSION, A PROPRIETARY FUND.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF ORDINANCE 145. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION? SEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

MAMA'AM. >> 11 YES, ONE NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

[8. ORDINANCE 146-2021-22 (First Reading) An ordinance amending the operating and capital budgets for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 and adopting the operating and capital budgets for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 for the governmental funds and adopting the tax rate for the Fiscal Year beginning July 1, 2022 and ending June 30, 2023]

>> ORDINANCE 145 IS ADOPTED. NOW READY FOR ITEM 8, ORDINANCE 146-2021-22, FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 AND ADOPTING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023 FOR THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS AND ADOPTING THE TAX RATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING JULY 1, 2022 AND ENDING JUNE 30, 2023.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND SECOND.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE 146. WE DO HAVE AMENDMENTS AND I HAVE A LIST HERE AND WE WILL GO DOWN THE LIST, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. I THINK COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU HAD AN AMENDMENT AND YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET. AS WE KNOW, NORTH CLARKSVILLE WILL NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER WITHIN THE NEXT THREE -- AT LEAST THE NEXT THREE YEARS, SO THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ADD 29,000 -- 28,600 -- DO I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

>> LET ME GO AHEAD AND FINISH IT.

IT IS $28,600 AND WHAT THAT MONEY WOULD DO IS OPEN A SATELLITE COMMUNITY CENTER IN NORTH CLARKSVILLE.

WE ARE TALKING TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AT THIS POINT AND RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE AFTER SCHOOL BUT, OF COURSE, IF IT EXPANDS, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT EXPANDING IT LATER.

THIS IS JUST A PIE LOT TO GET IT STARTED.

WE WOULD HAVE SIMILAR PROGRAMS AS WE WOULD HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS. THIS WOULD BE SATELLITE FOR

AFTER SCHOOL. >> ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT. >> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILPERSON ALLEN FOR CREATING THIS AMENDMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO WILL PARKS AND REC, WILL THEY NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF TO SUPPORT

THIS? >> COMMISSIONER: SO TALKING TO THE DIRECTOR, THAT IS THE MONEY THAT SHE WOULD NEED TO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT IS ONLY GOING TO BE THREE TO FOUR HOURS AFTER SCHOOL.

>> COMMISSIONER: OKAY. >> MAYOR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> TEN YES, TWO NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. NOW READY FOR COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT, I MOTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO RETURN THE ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING FOR WINGS OF LIBERTY MUSEUM BACK TO THE FUND

BALANCE. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

>> SECOND. >> AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

YOU ARE R RECOGNIZED, COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AM A HISTORIAN.

I'M A VETERAN. I SERVED IN THE 101ST AVIATION BRIGADE FOR NEARLY HALF OF MY MILITARY CAREER, INCLUDING DEPLOYING TO IRAQ IN 2005 AND TO AFGHANISTAN WITH THE 5101 GENERAL SUPPORT AVIATION BATTALION.

MY FAMILY IS AN ARMY AVIATION FAMILY.

THIS CAUSE AND MUSEUM ARE, IN FACT, DEAR TO MY HEART.

BUT REGARDLESS OF MY PERSONAL FEELINGS, THE STATE OF TENNESSEE IS ALREADY SUPPORTING THIS ENDEAVOR WITH $20 MILLION THAT

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ALSO CAME FROM THE TAXPAYERS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AT THE ONSET OF THIS PROJECT MANY YEARS AGO, THE CITY ALREADY DONATED TO THE MATTER.

HOW MANY TIMES WILL THE PEOPLE OF CLARKSVILLE BE REQUIRED TO DONATE? SORRY, I'M PASSING IT AROUND NOW. I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN ENOUGH.

I ALSO THINK THAT ONE MILLION DOLLARS IS A HEFTY PRICE TAG FOR A PLAQUE PROVING OUR COMMITMENT TO FORT CAMPBELL.

CLARKSVILLE AND FORT CAMPBELL AS WELL AS THEIR SERVICE MEMBERS AND VETERANS ARE INSEPARABLELY INTERWOVEN.

MONEY DOESN'T HAVE TO PROVE THAT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE WINGS OF LIBERTY MUSEUM TO BE COMPLETED WITH VOLUNTARY FUND-RAISING TO SUPPLEMENT THE STATE FUNDING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, QUESTION OR COMMENT REGARDING

THE CEMENT? >> COMMISSIONER: AMENDMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER: I DON'T AGREE WITH US JUST TAKING THIS MILLION DOLLARS AWAY FROM THE WINGS OF LIBERTY AND JUST PUTTING IT INTO THE FUND BALANCE. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MISS MATA TALKED TO US ABOUT IS THERE IS A DELICATE BALANCE TO ASSURE WE DO HAVE ENOUGH IN THERE BUT WE ARE NOT JUST HOLDING FUNDS IN THERE AND JUST ESSENTIALLY STOCKPILING FUNDS.

SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING SHE HAS WORKED ON TO ENSURE THAT OUR FUND BALANCE IS AT THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR THAT.

BUT I ALSO DISAGREE WITH THIS MILLION DOLLARS BEING JUST A PLAQUE THAT'S GOING UP. THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC BOON BOON.

LOTS OF MONEY CREATED FROM THIS MUSEUM ONCE IT IS OPENED WHICH IS WHY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE STATE HAS GIVEN THE $20 MILLION TO DO THAT. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT OF THEY ARE ANTICIPATING 350,000 TOURISTS EACH YEAR COMING TO THIS AREA TO VISIT THIS MUSEUM. WE HAVE HEARD SO MANY TIMES PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WE NEED MORE OUT NORTH CLARKSVILLE, NEED MORE IN NORTH CLARKSVILLE. THIS WILL BE OUT THERE IN NORTH CLARKSVILLE CREATING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL FOR BUSINESSES OUT IN THAT AREA FROM THOSE TOURIST AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THOSE TOURISTS COMING TO OUR AREA, THEM STAYING IN OUR HOTELS, OUR MOTELS, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THE HOTEL MOTEL TAX THAT WILL BE CREATED FROM THAT.

I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS A MILLION LISTED IN THEIR BUDGET.

THERE IS A MILLION IN OUR BUDGET.

5% OF WHAT THE STATE HAS GIVEN TO IT.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS HONORING THOSE PEOPLE THAT. NOT JUST IN OUR MILITARY BUT IN OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HONOR THOSE MILITARY AS WELL. I WOULD ASK THAT WE VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT AND PLEASE KEEP THE MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE.

THEY WILL BE CONTINUING TO FUND RAISE.

THIS MILLION IS NOT GOING TO GET THEM THERE.

THEY ARE GOING TO STILL HAVE TO GET 8 MILLION MORE DOLLARS IN ORDER TO GET THIS GOING, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THIS OPEN, I BELIEVE IT WAS MARCH OF 2025.

I KNOW THAT IS IT WAS 2025. THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR SCHOOL STUDENTS, OUR SCOUTS.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD SUPPORT THIS ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE WINGS OF LIBERTY MUSEUM G.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON R REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT IF THE AMENDMENT ASK -- THAT IT IS DEFUNDED BUT THE MILLION DOLLARS GOES, IS TRANSFERRED TO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS OR TRANSPORTATION 2020 PLAN.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THIS YEAR, ONE MILLION DOLLARS IS $2.77 OF $1.27 THAT WE RAISED LAST YEAR IN THE TAXES. SO THAT'S OUR RATE, $1.27.

AND THIS IS $2.77 OF THAT. WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY RESIDENTS IS THAT THEY ARE PAYING THREE TIMES .

WE PAY COUNTY TAXES, STATE TAXES.

I'M HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT THAT WE ARE BASICALLY PAYING INDIVIDUALLY THREE TIMES FOR THIS DONATION.

SO I'M ALSO FOR CLARITY, I'M ALSO RETIRED MILITARY.

I WAS ASSIGNED TO FORT CAMPBELL AND I CURRENTLY HAVE A SON

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SERVING ON ACTIVE DUTY IN THE NAVY.

SO I HAVE DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE IN SERVICE TO THIS NATION AS WELL. THE REASON THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TRANSFER THE MONEY TO OUR -- ON OUR LINE ITEM IT SAYS CAPITAL PROJECTS BUT THAT IS OUR 2020 PROJECT.

AND WE RAISE TAXES IN 2022 BY 20 CENTS TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE STREET DEPARTMENT WAS GIVEN 15 CENTS OF THAT LAST YEAR.

THIS YEAR I WOULD LIKE O TO EXPD THE 2020 PLAN I OBJECT STEAD OF JUST BACK INTO THE POT. THIS MONEY GOES INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECT. IF THIS PASSES, OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THEY WANT US TO USE THEIR TAX DOLLARS OR TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SIDEWALKS AND SO, THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING IN THIS AMENDMENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU.

>> YOU HAVE HEARD THE EXPLANATION.

THE TAX RATE IS $1.24. $1.24.

$1.23, EXCUSE ME. >> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU,

SORRY. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON BUTLER,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS AMENDMENT IS WELL TAKEN, THANK YOU TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.

I DID WANT TO SAY THAT I LEARNED MY LESSON LAST YEAR AND I DID SIT DOWN WITH OUR CFO BEFORE MAKING THE AMENDMENTS.

I'M NOT PULLING THEM OUT OF THIN AIR.

HOWEVER, I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION OF THE FUNDS TO SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU GUYS WILL HEAR ME PLENTY TONIGHT ECHO THE EXACT SAME STATEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO SPEND THE CITIZENS' MONEY WHERE THE CITIZENS WANT TO SEE IT SPENT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AN AMENDMENT.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER: I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE FORMAT. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE THERE IS A 1 MILLION-DOLLAR DECREASE FROM THE WINGS OF LIBERTY AND TWO ONE MILLION DOLLAR INCREASES. IS THAT A QUICK OF THE WAY.

>> IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE AFFECTING TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS.

SO THE GENERAL FUND IS THE TOP TWO.

WE DECREASE THE WINGS OF LIBERTY AND THEN INCREASE THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.

AND THEN ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT FUND, WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT

MONEY. >> COMMISSIONER: OKAY.

>> MAYOR: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS. >> COMMISSIONER: NO, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

LOOKING AT THIS AMENDMENT, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT MILLION DOLLARS IN THE WINGS OF LIBERTY BECAUSE THE PRESENTER, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A GENERAL OR MAJOR THAT PRESENTED THAT, BUT HE SAID THAT THE POST WILL BE OPEN FOR CITIZENS TO COME IN AND TO VISIT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH GET -- I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD SITE FOR VISITORS TO COME INTO CLARKSVILLE. I THINK WE NEED TO WORK IN UNITY WITH THE FORT CAMPBELL OR THE PERSON THAT HAS PUT THIS FORWARD. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A GENERAL, A MAJOR, WHATEVER. BUT I APPRECIATE HIM BRINGING IT FORTH. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THE MONEY IN THERE AND SUPPORT THIS BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT SITE FOR PEOPLE TO VISIT WHEN THEY COME TO CLARKSVILLE.

IF WE GET RID OF FORT CAMPBELL, CLARKSVILLE WOULD BE A GHOST TOWN. WE NEED TO KEEP SOMETHING AVAILABLE FOR VISITORS TO COME IN AND COME TO CLARKSVILLE AND ENJOY THE AMENITIES HERE. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING TO HAVE. NOT TO DECREASE THIS MILLION DOLLARS. LET US KEEP THE MILLION DOLLARS IN BECAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA SINCE WE ARE

CONSIDERED ONE OF THE BEST. >> MAYOR: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON POINT OF ORDER. THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER: [INAUDIBLE] >> MAYOR: THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS TO DIVERT THE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE GIN GEL FUND FUND BALANCE TO THE TRANSPORTATION 2020 PLAN.

>> COMMISSIONER: IT ALSO HAS ON HERE TO DECREASE THE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE WINGS OF LIBERTY.

>> MAYOR: THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY WILL COME FROM.

ALL RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER: SO I'M SAYING DO NOT DECREASE THE MONEY. LET'S KEEP THAT MILLION DOLLARS IN THE POT FOR WINGS OF LIBERTY. I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA FOR

CLARKSVILLE. >> COMMISSIONER: COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, DO YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED?

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>> COMMISSIONER: YES. >> MAYOR: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: I'M ALSO A VETERAN.

I LEFT THE ARMY FROM FORT CAMPBELL.

I'M FOR OURY, MILITARY FAMILY AND SOLDIERS.

NOT JUST THEM BUT SURVIVORS. I HAVE WORKED FOR THE MILITARY FOR OVER 20 YEARS UNTIL RECENTLY.

AND WHILE I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO PRESERVE H HISTORY, WE HAVE O KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON HISTORICALLY IN OUR NATION'S MILITARY, I DO NOT AGREE WITH GIVING THE ONE MILLION DOLLARS TO THE MUSEUM AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TOLD ME THE SAME THINGS, THE CALLS THAT I HAVE GOTTEN.

THE STATE GAVE MONEY AND THE COUNTY IS GIVING MONEY.

NOW WE ARE GIVING MONEY. SO WE ARE HITTING IT THREE TIMES AND I UNDERSTAND THAT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR SOME PEOPLE IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. A MILLION DOLLARS COULD ADVANCE

OUR ROAD PROJECTS, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON

SHAKEENAB. >> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO

CALL THE AMEND. >> MAYOR: WE WILL SEE DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THIS IS THE REYNOLDS AMENDMENT TO BUTLER'S AMENDMENT.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON? GIVE THE CLERK TIME TO TEE IT UP.

EVERYBODY CAST YOUR VOTE, PL PLEASE.

EVERYBODY VOTED, ANYBODY WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 7 YES, 5 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MAYOR: ADD AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT PASSES.

WE ARE NOW ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED.

ANY FURTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WITHOUT A DOUBT, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS EXCEPTIONALLY IMPORTANT AND NEEDED WHICH IS WHY I WAS SUCH A BIG PROPONENT OF IT LAST YEAR WHETHER WE WERE DISCUSSING IT THEN.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A LOT OF PLANNING THAT HAS TO GO INTO THAT. IT IS NOT AS THOUGH WE CAN JUST AUTOMATICALLY INCREASE IT AND THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN DO THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS. THEY HAVE TO PLAN THESE THINGS IN ADVANCE, SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE LEAVE THIS MILLION DOLLARS AGAIN WHICH IS GOING TO GENERATE REVENUE, THAT IS GOING TO COME BACK THAT WE CAN USE IN THE LONG RUN TO BE ABLE TO DO EVEN MORE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. >> COMMISSIONER: I AM ALLOWED TO

ASK MISS MATA QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR: YOU CAN ASK THE CHAIR,

TO ASK MISS MATA. >> COMMISSIONER: I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF WE KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER THAT THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE HAS ALREADY GIVEN TO THIS MUSEUM MANY YEARS AGO.

>> MAYOR: I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS CONCEIVED, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY BOTH GAVE $500,000. EACH.

TO THE WINGS OF LIBERTY. IT WAS CALLED SOMETHING ELSE BACK THEN. BUT MY MEMORY ESCAPES.

THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO PROBABLY. >> COMMISSIONER: SO LEGALLY SPEAKING, IF THEY CHANGED THE NAME, THEN THAT MONEY WOULD HAVE GONE WITH THE PREVIOUS PROJECT, CORRECT? DO THEY STILL HAVE THAT MONEY? IF NOT, DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

TO IT? >> MAYOR: I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW.

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WILL KEEP THIS SHORT. I'M GOING TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT AS A RETIREE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS -- I HAVE TAKEN MY FAMILY THROUGH THAT MUSEUM, TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO AN EXHIBIT ON THE WALL AND TELL MY KIDS, THIS IS WHERE I WENT FOR A YEAR, AND THIS IS WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT AND THIS IS WHAT I DID. YOU CANNOT REPLACE THAT.

THIS MUSEUM NEEDS TO HAPPEN. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS

AMENDMENT. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ALSO HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THIS PROJECT. AND ALSO WHERE THE MONEY WENT.

I DID CONTACT THE GENERAL TO SPEAK TO HIM.

I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WERE STIPULATIONS WITH SOME OF THE MONEY RAISED, THEY COULD NOT USE TO BUILD THE BUILDING.

IT HAD TO GO THROUGH ARCHITECTURAL WORK.

SOME OF THAT STUFF WAS USED TO BUY THE CASES FOR THE MUSEUM, WHICH APPARENTLY ARE HOUSED CURRENTLY ON FORT CAMPBELL.

THEY STILL CURRENTLY HAVE IT. I DIDN'T CHECK THE BANK ACCOUNT AND I DON'T KNOW. I'M GOING OFF WHAT WAS RESPONSE

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WAS THAT I WAS GIVEN. AND SO HAVING SAID THAT, I, TOO, AM -- MY HUSBAND WAS FORMER MILITARY.

I WENT TO AN AVIATION HIGH SCHOOL AND I ALSO HAVE AVIATION CLOSE TO MY HEART. I TOOK PRIVATE PILOT LESSONS AS WELL AS A KID. MET TUSKEGEE AIRMEN.

IT WAS A FASCINATING EXPERIENCE. I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF THIS MUSEUM. WHICH I TOLD THE GENERAL AS W WELL. I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOLDIERS HERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DO NOT WANT THE MONEY GOING TO THE MUSEUM.

THEY TOLD ME THEY PREFER IT TO GO TO THE ROADS AND TO TRAFFIC AND IT JUST SEEMS TO BE THE SENTIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND KIND OF PUTS ME IN A TOUGH SITUATION BECAUSE, AGAIN, I LOVE THIS CONCEPT OF THE MUSEUM. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS, IN TAKING THE WHICH INCH THERE TO LERCH LN THE HISTORY AND AVIATION, I WANT MORE KIDS TO EXPERIENCE IT. THE COMMUNITY PREFERS IT TO BE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT AT THAT, I GUESS. THAT'S WHERE I HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY WANT THE MONEY. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: ANYONE ELSE WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED. SEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, ARE ? ON THE AMENDMENT AS AMENDED? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVY MEMBERS VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR?

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 6 YES, 6 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> AMENDMENT FAILS. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU HAD

ANOTHER AMENDMENT. >> I WILL PASS THEM AROUND.

I GAVE THAT TO HIM. OKAY.

I HAVE TO FIND MY COMMENTS FOR IT, SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET BY RETURNING HART MAY SON R RUDOLPH IN THE AMOUNT OF, HARK SWAWN LAKE, TO THE FUND BALANCE AS WELL AS DECREASE THE FUND BALANCE BY $762,650 FROM GOLF COURSE REVENUE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED. YOU ARE YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON

THE AMENDMENT. >> COMMISSIONER: THIS WILL BE A NET INCREASE TO THE FUND BALANCE.

WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE PEOPLE PARTICULARLY UNDER SERVED COMMUNITIES LIKE CHILDREN AND ELDERLY WHO UTILIZE OUR GOLF COURSES, I, AND MANY OTHERS NOTICE COMMUNITY OF THE MINDSET THAT THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE GOLF COURSE BUSINESS.

WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT, SELL THE GOLF COURSES AND ALLOW THEM TO BE RUN PRIVATELY.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU

ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE

SPONSOR. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY IT IS JUST THE GOLF COURSES? THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE FORMS OF RECREATION THAT WE OFFER TO THE COMMUNITY. WHY NOT OTHERS SUCH AS POOLS AND

RECREATION CENTERS? >> COMMISSIONER: I THINK THE BEST ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS THAT IT IS THE SIZE, THE AMOUNT.

FIRST OF ALL -- >> COMMISSIONER: IN REFERENCE TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE BEING A MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE, THE GOLF COURSES ARE AN OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FORM OF RECREATION. IN FACT, IT AVERAGES TO HALF OR MORE OF THE ROUNDS OF GOLF PLAYED ARE PLAYED BY OUR SENIORS CITIZENS. SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T AS LIKELY TO GO TO THE RECREATION CENTER, PLAY

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BASKETBALL. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES TO ALL OF THE CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY. ALSO, I HAVE GOT A LITTLE EXPEREXCERPT FROM AN ARTICLE THT TALKS ABOUT IMPACT OF LOCAL PARKS. THEY AREN'T MEANT TO BE WHERE THEY MAKE MONEY. THEY ARE MEANT TO BE THERE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE OPTION FOR RECREATION BY PLAYING GOLF.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR -- AS PART OF OUR PARKS -- PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

ALSO, SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE BUDGET.

WELL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE -- THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, IT IS OVER A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE GOT IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO REDO ONE OF THE POOLS.

SO TO SAY IT IS LARGE PORTION OF THAT.

THAT'S A LARGE PORTION OF IT RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OFFERS YEAR-ROUND RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES. IT HAS MONEY THAT COMES BACK INTO IT, ALSO OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS ALLOWED NONPROFITS AND LOCAL CHARITIES TO BE ABLE TO SAVE IN EXCESS OF $250,000 BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THEIR GOLF TOURNAMENTS THERE. THE SAVINGS THAT THEY GET BY PLAYING AT ONE OF OUR MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES.

THAT'S MONEY THAT GOES DIRECTLY BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY BY THEN HAVING SAVINGS THROUGH IT. IT IS OUR COURSES AND THAT'S FOR THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

THE AUSTIN PEAY GOLF TEAM, ABLE TO PLAY AT NO COST.

AUSTIN PEAY STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO PLAY AT A DISCOUNT AT OUR MASON RUDOLPH GOLF COURSE AS WELL AS PLAY AT SWAN LAKE, CHEAPER THAN THE OTHERS. WE HAVE CLARKSVILLE AND MONTGOMERY GOLF TEAMS PLAYING THERE.

I WOULD ASK THAT WE VOTE DOWN THIS AMENDMENT AND RECOGNIZE WE NEED TO HAVE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: YES, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK THE SPONSOR QUESTION. WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS JUST TO SELL THE PROPERTY? YOU DON'T HAVE A VISION FOR WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN SELL IT OFF AND PUT

MORE ROOFTOPS IN? >> COMMISSIONER: NO, I DON'T.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THEM.

I'M NOT FORWARD THINKING ENOUGH TO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM.

THAT'S FOR A PRIVATE PERSON WHO BUYS IT TO DECIDE.

WE WOULD GET THE MONEY FROM IT AND DO WHAT WE NEED TODAY DO

WITH THE MONEY ON THIS END. >> COMMISSIONER: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS DISRUPTIVE AND WE NEED TO BE -- IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, THEY SHOULD BE VERY THOUGHT OUT AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DISRUPTIVE.

WE ARE THREATENING PEOPLE'S JOBS THAT HAVE WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS. HONESTLY, THE GREEN SPACE OF COMMUNITY AND THE SPACE INSIDE OF A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. TTHE ONLY WAY THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IS A STUDY. FOR INSTANCE, CAN WE CLOSE ONE AND MOVE OVER TO THE OTHER? AND THEN WHAT COULD WE DO WITH THAT PROPERTY AS A CITY. ALL WE ARE DOING IS PUTTING MORE AND MORE ROOFTOPS AND MORE AND MORE PROPERTY INTO OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT SAVING OUR GREEN SPACE. IT SHOULD NOT BE DISRUPTIVE, WELL THOUGHT OUT, SEVERAL YEAR PLAN OF WHERE WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. NOT LET'S DO AWAY WITH IT.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IF CLEAR IT CLEARTHAT I DO NOT BELIEVE OS AND RECREATION SHOULD PAY FOR THEMSELVES.

WE SHOULD PERFORM OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CHARGING EQUITABLE FEES AND ACCESS.

BUT THEY ARE THERE BECAUSE EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY THE FEES THAT WOULD BE ON A PRIVATE.

THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO GO TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL, POOL OR GOLF COURSE. AND THESE GOLF COURSES SUPPORT LOW INCOME AND SCHOOLS WHERE KIDS THAT WANT TO PLAY GOLF WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY GOLF IF WE DID NOT SUPPORT THEM IN THIS WAY. SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS AND I ASK YOU TO REMEMBER THAT PARKS AND RECREATION IS FOR EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY SHOULD BREAK EVEN. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR, IS TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OUR RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF THEIR

ABILITY TO PAY. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REDD,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M ALL FOR GOLF COURSES, GREAT FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO GOLF. I DON'T BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD OWN THEM. I LOOKED AT THE HISTORY ONCE OF THE GOLF COURSES AND HOW THE STATE STARTED IT FIRST TO BUILD GOLF COURSES. REALLY, THE REASON WAS, WHY WE NOW HAVE GOLF COURSES IN OUR CITIES AND OUR COUNTIES IS

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BECAUSE A LOT OF THE ELITES WANTED TO HAVE IT PUT THERE WHERE THEY CAN DO BUSINESS. AS FAR AS, THAT IT IS FOR EVERYBODY AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.

WELL, PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO GO TO THE MOVIE THEATER AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. IT IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY'S LITTLE RECREATIONAL NEEDS THAT COMES ALONG. I'M FOR GOLF COURSES.

I'M JUST NOT FOR US OWNING IT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON SHAKEENAB, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M NOT A GOLFER. I NEVER HAVE BEEN, PROBABLY NEVER WILL BE. SO WHAT I DID, I'M ON THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE, I STARTED GOING OUT HERE LOOKING TO SEE WHO IS USING THESE THINGS AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THEIR USAGE AND THEN JUST IDEAS ON, IS IT -- DO WE REALLY NEED IT? WOULD THEY PREFER TO SEE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE? THINGS LIKE THAT. SO FEEDBACK I HAVE GOTTEN, I HAVE TALKED TO PROBABLY OVER 50, 60 GUYS PLAYING GOLF, RANGING FROM SENIOR CITIZENS TO RETIREES, TO YOUNG GUYS AT AUSTIN PEAY. ALL OF THEM ARE IN FAVOR.

THEY LOVE IT. IT IS USED PROBABLY MORE THAN SOME OF THESE RECREATION CENTERS.

IT GETS A LOT OF UTILITY. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE IT GO AWAY. IF ANYTHING, THEY PREFER TO SEE ANOTHER ONE SOMEWHERE ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE CITY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE HARDLY ANYTHING OUT THERE ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE. I'M IN FAVOR OF VOTING THIS AMENDMENT DOWN AND LET'S KEEP THE GOLF COURSES.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON LITTLE,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU.

ONE MAIN THING TO JUST START OFF WITH, WHEN WE DO THESE AMENDMENTS AND DO THESE, I WANT EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER, THE PREVIOUS COUNCILPERSON SAID IT EARLIER, THESE ARE ALSO PEOPLE'S JOBS AND LIVELIHOODS THAT THEY LIVE OFF OF.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CUTTING IT OUT, YOU ARE POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT CET CUTTING EMPLOYEES WHO DEPEND ON THIS TO LIVE ON.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA, IF YOU WANT TO DO A STUDY, MAYBE YOU COULD BRING THEM INTO ONE AREA. ONE GOLF COURSE ISN'T GETTING USED AS MUCH AS ANOTHER ONE. YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU CAN FIT ALL OF THEM INTO ONE AREA, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINEFUL FINE.

I DON'T THINK A DECISION TO TAKE THE MONEY AWAY NEEDS TO BE MADE RIGHT NOW WITHOUT DOING STUDIES AND HOW IT IS GOING TO AFFECTED THE EMPLOYEES. WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY AFFORDABLE THINGS TORE FOR PEOPLE TO DO E COMMUNITY.

IDLE HANDS ARE THE DEVIL'S PLAYGROUNDS.

YOU WANT PEOPLE TO AFFORD TO GIVE THEM JOY AND GIVE THEM PURPOSE AND REASON. THEN TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM.

IT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED MORE DELICATELY.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PASS THIS TO CUT THE MONEY OUT.

DOING A STUDY AND FINDING OUT WHERE THE FINANCING CAN BETTER BE USED AS FAR AS GOLF COURSES, I'M ALL FOR.

CUTTING IT RIGHT NOW, THIS POINT, I CAN'T BE IN AGREEMENT

WITH THAT. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON BUTLER,

BACK TO YOU. >> COMMISSIONER: LET ME MAKE THIS REALLY CLEAR. I DO NOT APPRECIATE BEING CALLED DISRUPTIVE OR BEING TOLD THAT I HAVE NOT DONE MY RESEARCH OR I'M UNPREPARED BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK IS THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB.

WE CAN DISAGREE ON THE IF YOU WERE OF GOVERNMENT.

IT DOES NOT MAKE ME STUPID. UNPREPARED, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ME DISRUPTIVE. I SPEAK FOR AN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH ME JUST AS OTHER MEMBERS OF HERE SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH THEM. OKAY.

BUT I DON'T HOLD IT AGAINST ANYBODY ELSE AND I DO NOT APPRECIATE BEING CALLED DISRUPTIVE OR UNPREPARED.

AND THAT'S TWICE TONIGHT THAT I HAVE BEEN CALLED UNPREPARED.

AND I WILL SAY AGAIN, I SAT DOWN WITH A FINANCING PROFESSIONAL ON MY OWN TIME AND I SAT DOWN WITH OUR CFO.

I DID NOT -- LAST YEAR I CAME IN HERE GUNS BLAZING AND ACTED A FOOL. I LEARNED MY LESSON.

I DO HAVE TO QUESTION, BECAUSE WE KNOW HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, THAT THE MARKET PROVIDES. SO IF THESE GOLF COURSES ARE SO BELOVED AND NECESSARY, THEN IF THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT PAYING FOR IT, THE MARKET WOULD PROVIDE AND SOMEONE ELSE WOULD PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. I THINK ACTUALLY THAT BY USING THE GOVERNMENT TO DO IT. WE ARE KEEPING THAT OPPORTUNITY FROM SOMEONE ELSE, A CIVILIAN THAT MIGHT WANT TO RUN A GOLF COURSE. I ASKED HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS

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WOULD AFFECT. I DO CARE ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE.

IF WE CAN FIND THEM -- WE HEAR EVERY MONTH HOW MANY OPENINGS PARKS AND REC HAS. I WOULD NOT KICK THOSE PEOPLE OUT AND TELL THEM GOOD LUCK. BUT I THINK WE COULD ADJUST, MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I CONSIDERED. BUT I CANNOT MAKE CHOICES --

>> COMMISSIONER: CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

>> MAYOR: PROPERLY SECONDED. ANY OBJECTION TO THE QUESTION WHICH IS TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THIS AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE. WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT.

VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT. COUNCILPERSON SMITH, WE ARE CEASED DISCUSSION. OKAY.

VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE?

>> 4 YES, 8 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN. >> THE AMENDMENT FAILS.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COMMISSIONER: I ONLY GOT THREE MORE, GUYS.

I BELIEVE THE MOTION ON THIS ONE, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME NOW, IS I MOTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO REMOVE THE DEBT ISSUANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $220,000 FROM LN TRAIN STATION AND TO DELETE THE CAPITAL PROJECT.

MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. DO I HEAR A SECOND.

FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED,

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. >> COUNCILPERSON: ALL RIGHT, I WILL PASS THESE OUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO WITH THE EASY ONE.

AMENDMENT 5. THIS ONE IS THE ONE REGARDING MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES AND FACILITIES.

SO I MOTION TO AMEND -- >> MAYOR: THE ONE WE ARE LOOKING

AT IS CUSTOMS HOUSE. >> COUNCILPERSON: THERE ARE TWO

COMING AROUND. >> MAYOR: PARDON ME, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THE ONE I AM REFERRING TO FIRST IS GOING TO BE I MOTION TO COMBINE MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES AND BUILDING FACILITIES MAINTENANCE INTO ONE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT IS IN A DECREASED MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $769,635, INCREASE TO BUILDING FACILITIES MAINTENANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $769.635 -- THAT, GUYS. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.

>> COUNCILPERSON: WHILE LOOKING OVER THE BUDGET, AS I STATED BEFORE WITH A PRIVATE FINANCIER AS WELL AS CFO.

I WAS CONFUSED WHY COMMUNITY PROMISE IS SEPARATED FROM BUILDING MAINTENANCE. I COME UP WITH IT IS NOT ADDRESSED SINCE BUILDING FACILITY MAINTENANCE IS A RELATIVELY NEW DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE OF THAT, I WANTED TO MOTION WHAT I ALREADY SAID THAT I WAS GOING TO MOTION IN ORDER TO STREAMLINE IDENTICAL ITEMS INTO ONE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON ALLEN,

RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT. >> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD LIKE

TO ASK OUR CFO A QUESTION. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON ALLEN.

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>> COUNCILPERSON: THIS INTENTIONAL THAT THESE TWO ARE SEPARATED? THEY ARE UNDER THE SAME -- --

>> I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAME THAT WAY.

WELL BEFORE I WAS HERE, WHEN MR. PMAYOR PITTS WAS HERE AS AN EMPLOYEE. AT ONE POINT IT GOT SEPARATED OUT AND REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR.

IT IS NOT SET UP AS AN ACTUAL DEPARTMENT LIKE CITY CODE LISTS WHO THE DEPARTMENTS ARE. IT IS NOT A DEPARTMENT LISTED THERE. IT IS JUST KIND OF SITTING OUT ON THEIR OWN. IT DOESN'T HAVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD. IT HAS PROJECT MANAGERS THAT

REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR. >> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY.

SO IT IS NOT REALLY A DEPARTMENT.

WHY WOULD IT NEED ITS OWN BU BUDGET?

>> IT IS ACCOUNTED FOR DIFFERENTLY.

BEFORE WE HAVE BUILDING FACILITY MAINTENANCE, THAT IS WHAT WE USED THAT POT OF MONEY FOR. WHEN CITY HALL NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED, IT CAME FROM THIS MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES BUDGET.

>> BUT NOW IT IS KIND OF UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING

FACILITIES. >> THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS.

IT WOULD BE PART OF IT. IT WOULD BE JOINED, NOT UNDER IT. IT WOULD BE ONE BUDGET FOR THE BASICALLY, JUST TWO MORE EMPLOYEES PUT IN THE BUILDING

FACILITY MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT. >> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY, THANK

YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON

REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: IT MIGHT BE MISS MATA OR THE MAYOR. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE AN ACCURATE DECISION BASED ON THIS. I MEAN, FROM WHAT I HEAR, IT MAKES SENSE, BUT IS THERE A BETTER PROCESS THAN THE BUDGET.

I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THE MAYOR, I MEAN, HOW DISRUPTIVE -- I SEE THE POINT. I KNOW THAT BUILDING AND FACILITIES IS NEW. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS -- I'M NOT SURE I'M READY TO SAY YES OR NO.

>> MAYOR: WELL, MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES REALLY IS DOING BUSINESS AS PROJECT MANAGEMENT. WHEN THERE IS A CAPITAL PROJECT, RENOVATION OR NEW PROJECT SUCH AS THE NEW POLICE PRECINCT, NEW PARK, NEW BUILDING OR RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING FIRE STATION.

, THE MMUNICIPAL PROPERTIES MANAGER OVERSEES THAT. THAT IS A SPECIFIC FUNCTION.

ONCE IT IS BUILT AND DELIVERED, THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY THEN BECOMES RESPONSIBILITY OF BUILDING AND FACILITY MAINTENANCE. IT MAY SEEM LIKE IT IS SIMPLE.

IT IS REALLY TWO DISTINCT FUNCTIONS WITHIN CITY GOVERNMENT FOR TOO LONG, YOU HR HEARD ME SY THIS LAST YEAR, THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SIDE OF THINGS GOT IGNORED BECAUSE WE WERE TOO BUSY JUST -- FORGIVE THE PUN, PUTTING OUT FIRES ON MAINTENANCE.

SO THIS DEPARTMENT REALLY NEEDS TO STAND ALONE AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT OR MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES HONESTLY NEEDS TO STAND ALONE WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AS WELL SO WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS AS THEY ARE BUILT AND COMPLETED.

JOHN HILLBORN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

I WANT TO COMMEND HIM PUBLICLY FOR THAT.

>> SO MY QUESTION IS, JUST AGAIN, IF NOT UNDER BUILDING AND FACILITIES, MAYBE JUST UNDER THE MAYOR'S OFFICE?

>> MAYOR: PROJECT MANAGEMENT -- MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES IS ALREADY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, ATTACHED TO IT.

EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A SEPARATE BUDGET LINE ITEM THAT WE ACCOUNT FOR WHAT THEY DO. BUILDING FACILITY MAINTENANCE IS A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT. THIS HE I DON'T EVER SEE THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF OUR EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE.

>> I THINK IT IS A MANAGEMENT DECISION.

FROM THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THE WORLD, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON LITTLE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: CALL FOR QUESTION.

>> MAYOR: ANY OBJECTION TO THE QUESTION? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE. WE ARE VOTING ON THIS AMENDMENT AS PROPOSED BY COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE

VOTE. >> ONE YES, 11 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MAYOR: AMENDMENT FAILS. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR, LAST ONE-ISH.

I MOTION TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO RETURN FUNDING FOR ROXY THEATER IN THE AMOUNT OF $185,085 FUNDING TO THE CUSTOMS HOUSE MUSEUM IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,003,340 AND FUNDING TO THE ARTS AND HERITAGE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL IN THE AMOUNT OF $71,000

TO THE FUND BALANCE. >> MAYOR: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE

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AND SECONDED. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE AN AGGREGATE OF $1,269,425 FROM OUR SPENDING.

ROXY THEATER AND THE CUSTOMS HEALTH MUSEUM ARE INDEPENDENT ENTITIES. THEY SHOULD BE FUND-RAISING AND OPERATING WITHIN THE MONETARY CONSTRAINTS RESULTING FROM THE MONEY THEY BRING IN FROM REVENUES AND VOLUNTARY DONORS.

THE ARTS AND HERITAGE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL ALREADY RECEIVES FUNDING PER STATE STATUTE BASED ON OTHER PROJECTS.

ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY BUT SHOULD BE DONATED TO THROUGH VOLUNTARY ACTION AND NOT GOVERNMENT FORCE. TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD NOT BE USED TO FUND NONPROFITS, ESPECIALLY WHEN, AGAIN, CLARKSVILLE RESIDENTS MAKE QUITE CLEAR EVERY DAY WHAT THEY NEED AND DEMAND THEIR MONEY TO BE USED FOR.

THEN I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IF WE WANT TO VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT, AS ONE, ALL THREE, THAT'S FINE.

I ALSO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION TO VOTE ON EACH ONE SEPARATELY IF THEY SEE FIT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REDD,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO.

DO WE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT ARE ALREADY SIGNED CONCERNING THE ROXY THEATER WITH CERTAIN PARTIES THAT THIS WOULD AFFECT?

>> MAYOR: WE HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE ROXY FOR THE USE OF THE BUILDING.

>> COUNCILPERSON: WOULD THAT AFFECT THIS AMOUNT, 185,000 BEING RETURNED IN ANY WAY WITH ANY OF THE CONTRACTS? I DON'T THINK A LEASE AGREEMENT WOULD AFFECT THIS.

>> MAYOR: IT DOESN'T AFFECT IT. BUT IN GOOD FAITH, THEY ENTERED THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH US WHEN WE PURCHASED THE BUILDING LAST

YEAR OR SO. >> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY.

THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE DO DIVIDE THE QUESTION AND VOTE ON THE ROXY THEATER SEPARATE FROM THE OTHER TWO ITEMS.

>> MAYOR: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING THE MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS TO DIVIDE THE

ROXY THEATER FROM THE OTHER TWO? >> COUNCILPERSON: YES, SIR.

>> MAYOR: OKAY. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON DIVIDING THE QUESTION?

>> COUNCILPERSON: YES. >> MAYOR: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY, SO AS YOU GUYS REMEMBER WITH LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WHEN WE DECIDED TO GO AND DO EVERYTHING WITH THE ROXY, I KIND OF DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE, WITH ALL THREE OF THESE AGENCIES. THEY ARE DOING SOME EXCELLENT PROGRAMMING IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH DIVERSITY COME INTO ALL THREE OF THESE PROGRAMS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND THEY ARE REALLY MAKING AN IMPACT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY OTHER MEMBER WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON DIVIDING THE QUESTION.

COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, ON DIVIDING THE QUESTION.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT IN FOR THE ROXY, THE ONE THAT IS DIVIDED OUT, THAT THIS INCOME IN ROXY, I SAT DOWN WITH MR. BUOY TODAY, AND THEY HAVE INCREASED THEIR STAFF TO 7 PEOPLE. AND THIS MONEY IS FOR TWO NEW PEOPLE THAT WILL BE HIRED FOR THE EVENT --

>> MAYOR: PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT IS REALLY THE BENEFITS AND PAY FOR -- THE BENEFITS FOR ALL THE STAFF AND PAY FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.

LAST YEAR, THEY GOT MORE MONEY BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO UNSHUTTER AND OPEN THEIR DOORS, THEY HAVE PRETTY MUCH BROKE EVEN DP EXCEPT NOW THEY HE TO GET READY FOR THE NEW PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO HIRE JUST TWO PEOPLE AND PAY BENEFITS FOR THEIR STAFF, FOR ALL THE

STAFF. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON

STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO AGREE WITH WHAT PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER SAID IN REGARD TO NOT SPLITTING THE QUESTION BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVE VARYING AMOUNTS, THESE ARE THINGS FOR OUR CITIZENS AND THEY ALL OFFER GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS. I AGREE WITH HER STATEMENT.

>> COUNCILPERSON: COUNCILPERSON >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON BUTLER

ON DIVIDING THE QUESTION. >> COUNCILPERSON: IN RESPONSE TO PREVIOUS SPEAKER, I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT SAD THAT MR. BUOY IS NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR HIM.

WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH FUNDING THESE THINGS, WE

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DON'T HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT OVER WHAT THEY DO WITH THE MONEY THAT WE GIVE THEM, WITH THE EXCEPTION, WE GOT THE BUDGET BREAKDOWN. I SUGGESTED THAT -- I MEAN, I GUESS I CAN AGREE, IF YOU DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DIVIDE IT TO VOTE FOR THEM ALL TOGETHER, THAT IS COOL.

I DID WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT PREVIOUS SPEAKER'S COMMENTS ON THAT. IT KIND OF MAKES MY POINT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON

SHAKEENAB, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD LIKE

TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >> MAYOR: THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR. PROPERLY SECONDED.

ANY OBJECTION TO THE QUESTION? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE.

WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION ONLY.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE

VOTE. >> 3 YES, 9 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MAYOR: MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION FAILS.

WE ARE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED.

COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I WILL MAKE THIS QUICK.

I JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON MR. BUOY'S BEHALF.

THE REASON HE IS NOT HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THERE IS A SHOW GOING ON TONIGHT AT THE ROXY AND HE IS IN THAT SHOW SO -- HE IS THERE. SO HE IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.

HOWEVER, THIS IS TO ANYONE, IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO HIM AT ANY TIME AND I KNOW THAT HE DID PRESENT AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THE BUDGET FOR THE ROXY. AGAIN, IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE ROXY, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO

HIM. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON BUTLER,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I REMEMBERED WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. MAYOR, WHEN ARE WE BUILDING THE

PERFORMING ARTS CENTER? >> MAYOR: TO BORROW A LINE FROM AN OLD COMMERCIAL, WE WILL BUILD NO CENTER BEFORE ITS TIME.

WE ARE DETERMINING SIZE, SCOPE, MAXIMIZE THE REVENUE THAT CAN BE USED TO SUPPORT THAT CENTER. SO I WOULD BE HESITANT TO GIVE YOU A DATE RIGHT NOW. BUT SOON.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

WHICH IS WHY I FIND IT SUPERIORLY INTERESTING THAT THE ROXY HAS BEEN HIRING PEOPLE TO STAFF THAT CENTER WHEN WE HAVE NO IDEA RIGHT NOW AS TO WHEN THAT CENTER IS EVEN GOING TO BE UP AND FUNCTIONAL. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I KNOW THAT WE -- CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, PASSED THE INTENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT BUT WE HAVE NOT APROFITAPPROVED BOND ISSUANCE.

>> MAYOR: WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT WHEN WE BUILD IT.

MAKE SURE IT IS RIGHT. >> COUNCILPERSON: UNDERSTOOD.

HE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, FROM THE PEOPLE I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH, HE IS HIRING TO MAN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NO CLEAR IDEA WHEN IT IS EVEN GOING TO COME.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT. THANKS.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I'M SORRY I MISS POKE.

MISSPOKE. HE WAS NOT HIRING TO MAN.

HE DID SAY THE PLANNING PROCESS, AND THE TO GET IT RIGHT, THE WORK GOING INTO PLAN IT, IS A GREAT DEAL OF WORK.

HE IS HIRING PEOPLE TO ASSUME SOME OF THAT WORK THAT WILL TRANSITION INTO STAFFING. SO IF YOU SPOKE TO OTHER PEOPLE, FINE. I MISSPOKE, I'M SORRY FOR THAT.

THAT WAS MY MISTAKE. >> MAYOR: ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THE AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT? ALWAYS MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. EVERY MEMBER VOTED.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 3 YES, 9 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN. >> AMENDMENT FAILS.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER. TURN ON YOUR MIC.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I YIELD THE FLOOR.

>> MAYOR: WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE NEXT AMENDMENT.

COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THIS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD MOVE FUNDING FROM A NEW PARKING DECK AT CITY HALL TO A CAPITAL PROJECT TO AIMED AT PROVIDING SIDEWALKS.

>> MAYOR: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.

LET'S PASS THIS AROUND. YOU CAN BE RECOGNIZED.

THIS IS AMENDMENT 7 FOR THE RECORD.

COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO A COUPLE -- FEW MONTHS AGO WE APPROVED BOND ISSUANCE FOR A NEW

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PARKING STRUCTURE DOWNTOWN. I VOTED FOR THAT.

I STRONGABLY STRONGLY BELIEVE D ADDITIONAL PARKING.

SINCE THEN, THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

THE STATE HAS COME THROUGH FOR FUNDS FOR A SECOND PARKING GARAGE DOWNTOWN WHICH I THINK IS EXCELLENT.

I THINK A THIRD PARKING STRUCTURE DOWNTOWN AT THIS TI TIME -- THE NEED FOR IT MIGHT NOT BE THERE AS MUCH AS IT WAS A FEW MONTHS AGO. AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S CHANGED SINCE WE APPROVED THAT ORIGINAL BOND ISSUANCE OR DEBT ISSUANCE WAS THE EXPANDING OF THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITIES ZONED FOR CMCSS. THE BUS DRIVER SHORTAGE HAS TAKEN ON A NEW FACE. WE HAVE MORE STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO WALK TO SCHOOL AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SAFE RIOTS FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS ABOUT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON

STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHILE I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS FOR THE AMENDMENT, THIS PARKING DECK AT CITY HALL IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE UTILIZED DIRECTLY FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND PEOPLE AT CITY HALL.

I KNOW THAT THEY ARE ALREADY OVERGROWING IT AND OFTEN WHEN THERE IS MEETINGS OR TRAININGS GOING ON HERE, THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE HAVING TO PARK ON THE STREET AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE BENEFITED FOR, EITHER THE TWO PARKING GARAGES.

ANOTHER THING THAT THIS WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR IS THE VERY POPULAR DOWNTOWN MARKET THAT WE HAVE.

THIS WOULD ALLOW IT TO BE ABLE TO GROW IN SPACE BECAUSE YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TWO DECKS WHERE YOU COULD ZO IT, DO IT, AS WELLS HAVING IT IN INCLEMENT WEATHER, THE PORTION UNDERNEATH WOULD ALLOW FOR IT TO BE HELD DOWN THERE AND BE MORE PROTECTED FROM THE RAIN. AND I RECOGNIZE THE FACT WITH SIDEWALKS NEEDED FOR THE SCHOOLS, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING, AGAIN, GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH WHICH SCHOOLS IS IT THAT IS GOING -- THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE MOST NEED OF IT. AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET AROUND THAT, AND THEN THE BIG PROBLEM THAT WE FOREVER RUN INTO THAT COULD DELAY THAT PROJECT HAPPENING IS, OF COURSE, THE AT&T AND CHARTER, WHATEVER IT IS, AND TRYING TO GET THE UTILITIES MOVED IN ORDER TO GET THAT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DESPERATELY RUN INTO IN REGARD TO SIDEWALKS, GENERALLY RIGHT THERE ALONG THE WAY.

SO WHILE I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO PLAN FOR AND SEE HOW WE CAN BEST HELP SOLVE THAT SITUATION, I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND THE PARKING DECK. I KNOW FINANCE COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WE HAD IT IN PURCHASING IN REGARD TO THE GEOLOGICAL STUDY THAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE. THAT WAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS. WE HAVE PUT FORTH SOME MONEY AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE.

I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY TRY TO HAVE A SPACE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO PARK.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON THE

AMENDMENT. >> COUNCILPERSON: SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCILPERSON WAS TALKING ABOUT, I ALSO LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SCHOOL, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS TO GET TO MY KIDS' SCHOOL.

HE WALKS EVERY DAY AND I WILL TELL YOU GUYS, A QUICK STORY.

HE WAS WALKING AND THE BUS WAS COMING ACROSS THE STREET AND THERE WAS A CROSSING GUARD RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

AND HE WAS STANDING ON THE CORNER WHERE THERE IS NOT A SIDEWALK AND THE CROSSING GUARD WAS TELLING HIM TO COME ON AND THE BUS KEPT GOING BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CROSSWALK THERE.

THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK THERE. THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.

I HAD TO GRAB MY SON. SO I APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR OF THIS PUTTING IT OUT THERE LIKE THAT, THAT WE DO NEED TO INCREASE. WE WILL HAVE KIDS WALKING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT TAKES PLANNING AND TIME AND UTILITIES.

BUT IF WE START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW, HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE MORE SIDEWALKS FOR OUR KIDS TO WALK TO SCHOOL.

EVEN IF IT TAKES A COUPLE YEARS. THIS PARKING STRUCTURE IS GOING TO TAKE COUPLE YEARS. I AGREE WITH YOUR -- WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THIS, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, RECOGNIZED ON THE

AMENDMENT. >> COUNCILPERSON: SO I MET, WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT THE NEW REQUIREMENT, I REACHED OUT TO THE DIRECTOR OF SCHOOLS AND MET WITH HIM.

THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FIVE OR SIX LOW-LYING THROUGH SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE ALREADY IDENTIFIED, THAT THEY SHARED WITH ME AND I HAVE SHARED WITH THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. SIDEWALKS TO SCHOOL SERVE A MUCH BROADER PURPOSE THAN THE ROUTES -- THAN JUST A ROUTE TO SCHOOL. THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SCHOOLS SERVE AS GREEN SPACES, CIVIC CENTERS, EMERGENCY SHELTERS, AND HOSPITAL GROUNDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. A THREE-SCHOOL CAMPUS SERVICES

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4,000 PEOPLE DAILY. I DID MEET WITH MR. PALMER AND MR. BUOY, THE CHAIR OF THE PARKING COMMISSION, AND I DID DISCUSS -- I HAD ALREADY BEEN LOOKING AT THAT $6 MILLION FOR SOMETHING ELSE. GO HOME -- GO BIG OR GO HOME.

SO I'M GOING HOME. AND SO I DID APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE PUT TIME, EFFORT INTO CREATING THE PLAN, I THINK THAT THEY AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THE INTENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A PARKING STUDY AND THE OTHER THING IS, OUR -- WE HAVE MONEY FOR A PARKING STUDY. WE ARE BUILDING TWO PARKING GARAGES. AND WE HAVE $75,000 IN THIS BUDGET TO DO A PARKING STUDY. I THINK BEFORE WE TAKE ABOUT SIX MORE CENTS OR MORE OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT'S COMING. LOOK WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND DO A REALLY GOOD LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVING THAT IN THIS BUDGET, THAT PARKING STUDY. BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS THIRD PARKING STRUCTURE IN THE SAME BUDGET, I MEAN, SAME TAX DOLLAR BUDGET FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD LET THAT STUDY COME BACK.

AND ALSO, BUILDING THIS GARAGE SENDS A MESSAGE TO OUR EDUCATORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE CAN USE THIS MONEY AND SIDEWALKS, WE DON'T SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS, BUT THIS WILL SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PERSONNEL SHORTAGES AND HEROIC CONTRIBUTIONS OUR EDUCATORS AND SUPPORTING STAFF HAVE MADE IN OUR COMMUNITY DURING THE PANDEMIC AND RECOVERY. THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING SCHOOLS. I DO THINK THIS IS A MESSAGE THAT WE CAN SAY, I SEE YOU, AND I CAN DO WHAT I CAN DO.

THANK YOU. >> COUNCILPERSON: COUNCILPERSON

HOLLEMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA, REALLY. I MEAN, THE SIDEWALKS FOR THE SCHOOLS. BUT I JUST HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, LIKE WHAT SCHOOLS ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT?

>> MAYOR: THAT'S TO THE SPONSOR. >> COUNCILPERSON: YES.

>> COUNCILPERSON: RYOU ARE RECOGNIZED, COUNCILPERSON

ZACHARIAS. >> COUNCILPERSON: I DIDN'T REALIZE THE COUNCILPERSON FROM WARD 9 TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PROJECTS. THAT'S WHERE I COULD START.

IF THAT TAKES SOME SORT OF A LIAISON BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, I VOLUNTEER.

I WILL DO THAT. >> COUNCILPERSON: I'M COUNTING 42 SCHOOLS IN MONTGOMERY, NOT JUST CLARKSVILLE, MONTGOMERY AS A WHOLE. DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT?

>> COUNCILPERSON: SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

>> COUNCILPERSON: YES, AND $6 MILLION, SIDEWALKS ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. DOUGH WEDO WE KNOW HOW MUCH SIDE CAN GET FOR 6 MILLION? OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD.

>> MAYOR: IS THAT TO THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT? LET'S GO TO THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT FIRST.

>> COUNCILPERSON: NO, I DON'T HAVE -- I DO THINK IT IS RELEVANT TO POINT OUT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF 42 SCHOOLS. THERE ARE SOME SCHOOLS THAT HAVE WALKABILITY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS NEW PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY ZONE INCREASE AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE SCHOOLS THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A WALKING PATH. NO, THAT DOESN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. CAN I DEFER TO SOMEBODY WHO

LOOKS LIKE THEY KNOW THE ANSWER? >> MAYOR: WELL, I WILL ALLOW IT BRIEFLY. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?

>> COUNCILPERSON: YES, BASICALLY.

IT IS ABOUT $350 A LINEAR SQUARE FOOT FOR A SIDEWALK.

THE SCHOOLS IDENTIFIED SOME VERY SHORT -- LIKE 900 FEET OF SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF PICSLY ELEMENTARY WILL TAKE AT LEAST ONE BUS OFFLINE. SO THEY SAID FIVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROPOSED AND ALREADY LOOKED AT.

AND, YES, WE MAY -- BUT THEY HAVE ANOTHER LIST.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PERSON IF T THE SCHOOLS THAT IS WORKING THIS. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH SUGGESTIONS AND WORK WITH THE STREET DEPARTMENT OR THE PROJECT MANAGER TO BEST DECIDE WHAT ARE THE LOWEST LYING

FRUIT TO GET MOVING ON. >> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY.

ALL RIGHTY. AS FAR AS THE AMENDMENT GOES, I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA BUT WE HAVE SEEN DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE SEEN THE PARKING ISSUES DOWNTOWN, SEEN THE GROWTH ALL OVER

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DOWNTOWN. YOU THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY IRON SOME STUFF OUT AND TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR REALLY.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS. THAT'S ALL.

>> MAYOR: LET ME ADD CLARITY. I MEET WITH THE SCHOOL DIRECTOR ONCE A MONTH. THIS DIDN'T CATCH ME BY SURPRISE. SHE MENTIONED IT TO ME, GAVE ME THAT LIST. WE ARE WORKING THR THROUGH IT WH THE STREET DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT CAN BE DONE AND I SAY QUICKLY, RELATIVELY LIGHTLY, BECAUSE NOTHING IS DONE QUICKLY.

THERE'S SOME EASIER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO SUCH AS EASEMENTS, ACQUIRING SOME EASEMENTS TO SHORTCUT SOME OF THE PATHS THAT STUDENTS ARE ALREADY TAKING. SO WE ARE ALREADY HAVING CONSTANT DIALOGUE. I THINK OUR STREET DEPARTMENT MEETS REGULARLY WITH THE OPERATIONS PERSON AT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO THERE IS CONTINUING DIALOGUE THAT WE WELCOME ANY PARTICIPATION.

OKAY. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT. >> COUNCILPERSON: YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WILL TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL.

IF I SEEM FRUSTRATED, IT IS BECAUSE I'M FRUSTRATED.

NO, IT IS NOT JUST BECAUSE MY STUFF FAILS.

IT IS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE CUTS TO THE BUDGET FAILING FAIL THE PEOPLE. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE RIGHT HERE. THE SPONSOR OF THIS ALREADY VOTED AGAINST MY WANTING TO MOVE A MILLION DOLLARS FROM SOMETHING TO SOMETHING ELSE. AND YET I AM GOING TO SPEAK FOR IT. I AGREE WITH THIS ONE JUST THE SAME AS THE OTHER ONES. CITY EMPLOYEES MATTER.

YOU GUYS MATTER. I HAVE SAT DOWN WITH MOST OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND TOLD YOU GUYS HOW MUCH I RESPECT YOU AND VALUE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY.

CITY EMPLOYEES MATTER. BUT THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN CLARKSVILLE. AND DOWNTOWN IS NOT THE ONLY AREA OF THE CITY THAT IS IN NEED.

I LIVE NOWHERE NEAR DOWNTOWN. WARD 12 IS RIGHT UP NEXT TO KENTUCKY, ALL RIGHT? AND OUR PARKING ISSUES MATTER UP THERE, OUR KIDS AND SIDEWALKS MATTER UP THERE JUST AS MUCH AS DOWNTOWN MATTERS. BUT WE CAN'T HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT, TOO. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS. THIS IS THE SECOND ONE NOW HERE TONIGHT WHERE WE SAID NO TO SOMETHING THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE DEMANDING FROM US, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND NOW SIDEWALKS IS A PART OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE ARE SAYING NO BECAUSE WE KNOW BETTER WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR MONEY THAN YOU DO. AND OUR PRIORITIES ON THIS BODY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE CITIZENS' PRIORITIES.

THAT IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE SAYING TO THEM EVERY TIME WE PASS THIS BUDGET. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.

OUR OPINIONS AREN'T THE ONLY ONES THAT MATTER.

OUR PEOPLE ARE WHO MATTERS, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON LITTLE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE COUNCILPERSON BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT UP. YOU BROUGHT IT UP IN SUCH A WAY TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE WE ARE COMPARING, I RESPECT OUR CITY WORKERS AND EMPLOYEES.

BUT WHEN YOU BRING UP THIS AMENDMENT, YOU ARE COMPARING HAVING A PLACE TO PARK TO THE LIFE OF A CHILD.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE CHILDREN GOING BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL THAN I WOULD TO SOMEBODY HAVING TO WALK A LITTLE FURTHER JUST TO PARK IN A CONCRETE JUNGLE DOWNTOWN. AND WITH THE TIMES CHANGING, NOBODY SAW THE SHORTAGES THAT WE HAVE.

NOBODY EXPECTED ANY OF THIS TO HAPPEN.

BUT I HAVE HEARD MANY TIME'S UP TIMES UPHERE TO BE FLUID AND UNDERSTANDING. KIDS NEED A SAFE PATH.

IF WE START SOMETHING OFF, GET SOMETHING ROLLING IN THAT BALL FEEL, INSTEAD OF WAITING AND TWIDDLING OUR THUMBS AND GET THE JUMP ON THE SITUATION, WE ALREADY KNOW IT IS HAPPENING.

LET'S SHOW THE PEOPLE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THEIR PRESSURES, THEIR FEARS, THEIR CONCERNS, AND JUMP STRAIGHT INTO IT.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT MORE OF THE POPULATION HAS TO GO TO SCHOOL AND WALK TO SCHOOL THAN THEY HAVE TO COME DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A BUS SHORTAGE, SCHOOL SHORTAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. LET'S FOCUS ON THE REAL

PROBLEMS, THAT'S ALL. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR OF THIS AS WELL. I DO AGREE THAT WITH THE CHANGE IN THE PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY ZONE, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL. ONE OF THE VETERANS I SPOKE TO PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE MUSEUM WAS VERY ANGRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I

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WANTED SIDEWALKS FOR HIS KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL.

BECAUSE HE WORKS DOWN IN NASHVILLE AND HIS WIFE WORKS AND THEY NO LONGER CAN TAKE THE BUS DOWN TO -- OR BE PICK UP BY THE BUS. SO HE WAS VERY UPSET, WHERE HE LIVES, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS. YES, IT DID COST $300 ON AVERAGE OF PER LINEAR FOOT OF SIDEWALK. BUT HAVING EXTRA $6 MILLION MIGHT HELP MORE SCHOOLS THAN WE OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE WITHOUT THIS MONEY. SO IN I THINK IT WOULD HELP GET MORE SIDEWALKS IN PLACES THAT ARE NEEDED.

I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON

SHAKEENAB. >> COUNCILPERSON: I THANK THE SPONSOR FOR THIS AMENDMENT, HOWEVER, I VOTE NO FOR THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK IN A CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL SPEAK TO THEIR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR THE DISTRICT.

THE STATE AND COUNTY COULD ACTUALLY PUT THE MONEY, GET THE PROJECTS DONE FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM A LOT FASTER THAN CITY CAN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON

STREETMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM SOMEONE WHO IS WATCHING THE MEETING AND THEY REFERENCED THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS PROGRAM WHICH IS ACTUALLY A FEDERAL GRANT THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM CAN ACTUALLY PARTNER UP WITH.

THIS IS JUST ONE THAT THEY CAN PARTNER UP WITH AND BE ABLE TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR SIDEWALKS.

SO THERE'S ALREADY ACTUALLY AN AVENUE WHERE WE CAN REACH OUT TO AND LOOK AT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WITHOUT HAVING TO TRY AND TAKE THIS AWAY.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT IT, AND THIS ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN ONE PROJECT WITH THESE FEDERAL GRANTS. I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.

I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, SOME OF THESE SIDEWALKS ARE NOT UNDER THE SCHOOLS OF THEY ARE CITY.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO GET BUILT, IT HAS TO BE CITY.

SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL ARE. THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH THAT THEY CAN GET AT ONE TIME. SO --

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON ALLEN. >> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, THIS MONEY WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

WORKING FOR THE FEDERAL WORKFORCE AND WORKING IN GRANTS, I KNOW THAT IT TAKES A WHILE TO APPLY.

IT IS A PICKING GAME. YOU HAVE TO GET PICKED TO GET THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING. RIGHT NOW, WE CAN DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF WAITING TO SEE IF WE GET A GRANT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON SMITH,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THINKING ABOUT THE PARKING GARAGE DOWNTOWN, IT NEEDS TO BE REMODELED.

IT HAS NEEDED TO BE REMODELED FOR A LONG TIME.

KNOWING THAT THE ARENA IS ALMOST READY TO OPEN.

WE NEED TO HAVE THIS PARKING SPACES IN ORDER.

LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN, THERE'S ALWAYS -- THERE'S ALWAYS PROBLEMS TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK.

EVEN TO GO EAT FOR LUNCH. SO WE NEED TO NOT DECREASE THE MONEY FROM THIS PARKING DECK AT THE CITY HALL.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS GARAGE IS COMPLETED.

AND LISTENING TO ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, THERE IS A CROSSING GUARD OVER THERE AT THAT SCHOOL.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT BURT SCHOOL, WHERE THE ELEMENTARY KIDS ARE DISMISSED FROM SCHOOL, THERE IS NO CROSSING GUARD.

WE JUST GOT A CROSSWALK ERECTED OVER THERE.

THERE IS NO POLICE OVER THERE. THOSE ELEMENTARY CHILDREN GET HOME SAFELY BECAUSE OF CROSSWALK.

SO WE ARE WEIGHING APPLES AGAINST ORANGES.

BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS ARE SAFE.

I'M NOT AGAINST SIDEWALKS, PLEASE KNOW THAT.

BRU I DO THINK WE NEED TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER.

WE DO HAVE A CROSSING GUARD OVER THERE TO GET THE KIDS SAISM SAFY ACROSS THE STREET. WE KNOW THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GIVING MOST MONEY TO BUILD THE SCHOOLS.

WE DO SUPPORT THE COUNTY IN BUILDING SCHOOLS.

BUT I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING, MAKING SURE THAT WHEN SCHOOLS ARE BUILT, SIDEWALKS ARE AVAILABLE.

AROUND THE SCHOOLS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE THIS DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKING DECK HAS MONEY TO BE REPAIRED. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WE KNOW THE ARENA IS ALMOST FINISHED.

WE DON'T NEED TO BE FIGHTING OVER PARKING SPACES.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE MY TWO CENTS.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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SO BURT ELEMENTARY HAS SIDEWALKS, I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. AND THEN THE PARKING GARAGE DOWNTOWN, MAYOR, DID WE -- WE PASSED THE FUNDING TO REPAIR

THAT, CORRECT? >> MAYOR: BUDGET AMENDMENT YES.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: JUST FOR CLARITY, JORDAN ROAD SIDEWALKS, SERVING JORDAN ROAD, MINGLEWOOD AND SMITH SCHOOL AT GREENWOOD, NEEDMORE ROAD ALL IN THE BUDGET AND THEN WE WILL ADD TO THE LIST BASED ON WHAT SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS ASKED FOR. COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANTED TO CLARIFY.

THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT TAKE ANY FUNDING AWAY FROM REPAIRS TO AN EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURE. THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

IT DOES NOT TAKE MONEY FROM THE TWO PARKING STRUCTURES THAT ARE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED OR PLANNED TO BE BUILT.

THIS IS DIVERTING FUNDS FROM A THIRD PARKING STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE NOT YET TALKED ABOUT IN ANY OF THESE MEETINGS SO FAR.

THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW PROJECT RIGHT NEXT TO CITY HALL TO INSTALL A NEW PARKING DECK ON TOP OF THE CURRENT PARKING LOT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REDD,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: I WISH TO CALL

FOR THE QUESTION PLEASE. >> MAYOR: PROPERLY SECOND.

ANY OBJECTION TO THE QUESTION, TO CEASE DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THE ZACHARIAS AMENDMENT? ALL MEMBERS PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

EVERY MEMBER VOTED. MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> SIX YES, SIX NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MAYOR: AMENDMENT FAILS DUE TO LACK OF MAJORITY.

COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS, ANY MORE AMENDMENTS? COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: ALL RIGHT. >> FIRST AMENDMENT IS TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO INCLUDE A TREE INVENTORY IN THE TREE PORT.

>> MAYOR: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNCILPERSON

REYNOLDS. >> COUNCILPERSON: I WILL HAVE TO WING IT. I CAN'T FIND MY NOTES.

SO I'M SORRY, I CAN'T FIND MY NOTES.

BUT LAST WEEK I DISCUSSED THE -- I DISCUSSED OUR PROBLEM WITH FLOODING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND PART OF THE ISSUE IS DUE TO OUR -- DECREASE IN OUR TREE CAN POP ANY.

WE DO IN THE BUDGET HAVE A TREE CANOPY STUDY.

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TREE CANOPY STUDY AND TREE INVENTORY, YOU NEED TO SEE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND NUMBER AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREES AS WELL AS THE FOREST AND TO SEE HOW FAR OVERALL YOUR TREE COVERAGE. TREES ARE VERY IMPORTANT, TYPE OF TREE THAT YOU HAVE, IT WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH CO2 THEY WILL TAKE OUT, HOW MUCH WATER THEY WILL MANAGE FOR THE RUN-OFF, AND THE TREE BOARD HAS REQUESTED A TREE INVENTORY FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT HAD IT APPROVED.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS.

AS WE INFILL, WE HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF WHERE WE ARE AT FOR A NUMBER OF TREES ON OUR PROPERTY.

I HEAR OFTEN ABOUT DRAINAGE, REMOVING MORE AND MORE TREES.

WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT I A IMPERVS SURFACES, I ASK THAT WE EL PASO AMENDTHE BUDGET FOR 49-5. THIS WILL PROVIDE INVENTORY OF

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10,000 TREES. IT WILL BE PUT IN A COMPUTER DATABASE THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR AND WE WILL MAINTAIN THAT BY THE TREE BOARD IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON REDD. >> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD LIKE

TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION. >> MAYOR: ANY OBJECTION TO CALLING FOR THE QUESTION ON THIS AMENDMENT.

WE WILL PUT IT ON THE BOARD. WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION OR CALLING FOR THE QUESTION.

TWO-THIRDS OR NINE OF US. WE ARE VOTING TO CEASE DISCUSSION ON THIS AMENDMENT. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> 6 YES, 6 NO, AND ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MOTION FAILS. COUNCILPERSON HOLLEMAN, NEXT ON

THE LIST. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WITH THIS,.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THE CITY -- >> MAYOR: CITY FORESTER.

WE HISRESPONSIBLE POUR THAT. >> COUNCILPERSON: DON'T WE USE A

GIS SYSTEM TO USE TO TRACK THAT. >> MAYOR: QUESTION FOR THE

SPONSOR. >> COUNCILPERSON: YES.

>> MAYOR: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TREE CANOPY STUDY AND TREE INVENTORY.

THE GIS SYSTEM IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF TREE CANOPY.

HOW MUCH TREE COVERAGE. THE GIS FROM THE AERIAL VIEW, WE HAVE THAT IN THE BUDGET. SO WE ARE ASKING TO DO BOTH.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. YOU DON'T KNOW THE TYPE OF TREE THAT IS OUT THERE. YOU DOESN'T KNOW THE HEALTH OF THE TREE IN OUR COMMUNITY OR, HONESTLY, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT TREE THAT WE PAID FOR TEN YEARS AGO TO PUT IN BY OUR FORESTRY IS STILL THERE. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN INVENTORY OF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE PUT OUT.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THAT'S YOU ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I RECALL US TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE FINANCE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE HAD. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, MR MR. JOHN KILLBORN, TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS. I BELIEVE THAT HE REFERENCED THAT HE COULD WORK WITH AUSTIN PEAY.

I KNOW THAT WE ALSO HAVE ONE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, WE HAVE A STEM SCHOOL THAT DOES DIFFERENT AGRICULTURE THINGS.

I THINK THERE IS DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN LOOK AT DOING THIS.

ALSO MENTIONED IN THERE THAT AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, YOU'RE GIS SOFTWARE CAN HELP WITH THIS AS WELL.

I'M NOT SURE IF WE QUITE NEED THIS YET WHEN HE WAS LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS OF WAYS WE COULD CAPTURE THIS SAME INFORMATION.

>> MAYOR: ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT? COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT AS A MEMBER OF THE TREE BOARD, WHAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING WAS A NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS.

SO THIS INVENTORY FOR $50,000, OR 49, 5 IS NOT A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY DO NOT HAVE THE VOLUNTEER STAFF.

WE CAN'T HIRE EMPLOYEES LET ALONE TRY AND GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GO COUNT UP TO 10,000 -- THIS ALSO COMES WITH THE SOFTWARE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO USE IT.

AND AGAIN, THE GIS WILL ONLY TAKE AN AERIAL VIEW.

IT WILL NOT GO IN AND TAKE A SPECIFIC REVIEW OF WHAT THE TREES ARE AND THE TREE BOARD HAS ASKED FOR THIS FOR TEN YEARS NOW. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, ARE ? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR?

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> THREE YES, NINE NO, ZERO

ABSTAIN. >> MAYOR: AMENDMENT 8 FAILS.

COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON AN AMENDMENT.

THIS WOULD BE NO. 9. >> COUNCILPERSON: SO THIS

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AMENDMENT IS A -- CREATE A CAPITAL PROJECT FOR THE CROSSLAND AVENUE AND MULTIUSE PATH.

CAN I HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE -- AMENDMENT NO. 9. HANG ON, LET US GET IT DISTRIBUTED AND THEN YOU CAN BE RECOGNIZED TO EXPLAIN IT.

COUNCILPERSON R REYNOLDS, YOU AE RECOGNIZED ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

>> COUNCILPERSON: SO CROSSLAND AVENUE IS ALSO AN APPROVED PROJECT IN OUR PARKS AND RECKON THE 2015 PARKS AND REC.

IT IS A 2.54 MILES. BUT WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEW BUILDING AND REZONING IN THAT AREA.

WE HAVE ALREADY LOST OPPORTUNITIES TO PROTECT THAT PATH AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REROUTED APPROVED PATH BECAUSE WE ARE -- BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE IT IS IN OUR PARKS AND REC DOCUMENT IS NOT ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY PROTECT THE PATH.

SO I STARTED ON THIS PROJECT WHEN CROSSLAND AVENUE WAS IN MY DISTRICT. IT IS NO LONGER MY DISTRICT.

I WANTED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE I SPOKE TO MANY OF THE NEW BUILDERS AND THEY ARE WILLING TO SET ASIDE PROPERTY AND THEY ARE WILLING TO ACTUALLY HELP PROMOTE AND BUILD IT IN PIECES AS WE GO.

THE PROBLEM IS, IF WE DON'T HAVE A SET PLAN IN PLACE, THEN IT IS HARD TOO ASK THEM TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY.

WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A SIDEWALK ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, WE REALLY, ALONG CROSSLAND AVENUE, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO A MULTIPATH.

THIS AREA WILL CONNECT OVER 3,000 HOUSES, 168 APARTMENT TOWNHOMES, 237 COMMERCIAL, 4 PARKS, 33 PLACES OF WORSHIP AND 4 SCHOOLS WITH A SIDEWALK. SO THIS REQUEST IS ACTUALLY FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE BUDGET REQUEST IS FOR $350,000 AND THAT IS TO START THE DESIGN PROCESS.

AND THEN TO PLACE THIS ON OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THIS YEAR, I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET IT DESIGNED BECAUSE I HAVE ALSO HAD BUILDERS, SINCE I STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE AREAS, THAT ARE WILLING TO DONATE CERTAIN PIECE OF THE PROPERTY TO ACTUALLY BUILD AS THEY ARE INFILLING TO BUILD PART OF IT AS WE GO, AND THERE'S A -- SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH MMARK HOLLEMAN, WORKING WITH PAT OF THIS AS PART OF THE GREEN WA, HIS CONCERN IS, AGAIN, THAT WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY IF WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN IN PLACE THAT GIVINGS THE STREET DEPARTMENT THE ABILITY TO PROTECT IT.

WE HAVE ALREADY LOST SOME OF THE PROPERTY ALONG THE WAY.

SO I ASK THAT PLEASE VOTE YES ON THIS REMINDER THAT WE ARE VOTING FOR IS A CAPITAL PROJECT BUT THIS ANNUAL BUDGET IS -- WE ARE REQUESTING ABOUT $350,000 TO CREATE THE DESIGN FOR THE

PROJECT. >> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON SMITH,

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE

SPONSOR OF THIS PROPOSAL. >> MAYOR: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WHO IS THE WE. WE NEED 350,000 TO DESIGN THIS PROCESS. WHO IS THE WE?

>> COUNCILPERSON: I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE RESIDENTS THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH IN THE AREA. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE HEALTH COUNCIL WHICH WOULD HELP GET SOME OF THE GRANT MONEY.

I STARTED THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE THE BUS, BUT FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL AND FOR HEALTHY ROUTES.

WE HAVE ALSO, THIS AREA IS LOAVES AND FISHES AND THIS AREA IS ALSO -- THERE'S SOME OTHER NONPROFITS WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC. IF YOU LOOK ALONG THIS ROAD AND YOU DRIVE ALONG THIS ROAD, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING DOWN IN THE DITCH AND OFF THE EDGE. SO I HAVE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO MANY OF THE NONPROFITS AND HAD THE CONVERSATION.

I STARTED THIS CONVERSATION OVER A YEAR AGO AND NOW IT IS KIND OF LIKE -- SO THE WE ARE THE PEOPLE COMMUNITY.

AND I HAVE MET -- THIS INFORMATION CAME FROM STREETS DEPARTMENT AND I ALSO MET WITH THE RE REGIONAL PLANNING

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COMMISSION. >> COMMISSION.

>> COUNCILPERSON: HAVE YOU TALKED TO CONTRACTORS?

>> COUNCILPERSON: SOME OF THE BUILDERS, I HAVE ASKED AS WE HAVE REZONED, I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS.

NOT ANYTHING THAT IS BINDING, OBVIOUSLY.

EXPRESSING MY CONCERNS FOR THE AREA AND THE VISION THAT WE HAVE AND PARKS AND REC VISION. BUT OBVIOUSLY, NO, NOT ANYTHING

THAT'S BINDING. >> COUNCILPERSON: NOTHING CONCRETE. JUST THE IDEA.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS AN APPROVED ROUTE ON OUR PARKS AND REC PLANNING.

THIS IS ALREADY APPROVED IN OUR GREENWAYS.

I'M JUST PULLING IT OUT OF GREENWAY AND WE NEED TO PROTECT IT BECAUSE IT IS GETTING -- IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE TO EXPECT THE BUILDERS TO PIECEMEAL IT. WE WILL LOSE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THIS CONNECTION IF WE DON'T AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS TO ASK PEOPLE TO SET ASIDE PROPERTY AS WE GO FORWARD.

>> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: ALSO A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR.

THE ROUTE FOR THIS, VALLEY BROOK PARK, THERE'S A MASSIVE WATER TOWER TANK THERE. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? IS THAT GOING TO BE A BRIDGE? WHAT SIDE IS IT GOING ON?

WHAT'S HAPPENING? >> COUNCILPERSON: I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT. I'M SORRY.

SO THIS REQUEST IS ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, NOT BOTH SIDES OF CROSSLAND. I WILL TELL YOU THAT, AGAIN, SPEAKING WITH MR. HOLLEMAN AND GAS AND WATER, THERE WAS VERY MUCH OF A DISAPPOINTMENT WHEN THAT WATER TANK WENT IN.

THEY ARE STILL WORKING THAT ISSUE.

BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THAT.

IT WILL TIE INTO THAT PARK BUT THAT REQUIRES A BRIDGE OR STEPS

DOWN INTO THE PARK. >> COUNCILPERSON: I'M ASKING, KNOWING THAT SITUATION, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT CHANGED THE LOCATION WHERE THE PREVIOUS BRIDGE WOULD HAVE GONE.

WE ARE GOING TO BE AT A STAND STILL.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THAT'S WHY -- WHAT I'M ASKING FOR NOW IS DESIGN. I'M NOT TRYING TO DESIGN IT.

I'M SAYING ALONG THIS WAY WE NEED TO DESIGN.

BECAUSE WHATEVER THE DESIGN GEE DECIDES, WE NEED TO SAY WE WANT TO SET THAT PROPERTY THAT IS PART OF THE DESIGN.

I'M NOT THE DESIGNER OF THAT. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT CRVETION CONN UNTIL WE HAVE AN ENGINEER AND A FIRM TO DESIGN IT.

>> COUNCILPERSON: WHO DESIGNED THIS PRELIMINARY MAP WE HAVE?

>> COUNCILPERSON: I WENT TO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY PROVIDED THE OVERVIEW OF THAT.

AND PARKS AND REC. THIS ONE CAME FROM REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS A ROUGH DRAFT TO GET THE

DESIGN SET. >> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY, WELL, I LIKE THE GREENWAY. I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER TOWER. THE PREVIOUS SITUATION WITH IT THAT IT WOULD HOLD UP A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THE PROBLEM -- THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE CONVERSATION IS THAT WAS PUT IN AFTER THE 2015 -- AFTER THE GREENWAY WAS DESIGNED, WE STILL WENT AHEAD AND PUT THAT THERE.

SO NOW WE HAVE MORE OBSTACLES OTHER THAN THAT ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT OFFICIALLY SAID WE'RE COMING HERE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE OF THOSE ALONG THE ROUTE AND THAT'S WHY -- SO THIS MAY BE A MULTIPATH IN CERTAIN AREAS AND WE MAY ONLY BE ABLE TO HANG A SIDEWALK IN SOME OF THE AREAS.

BUT THAT AGAIN, UNLESS WE TELL A BUILDER OR COMPANY THAT WE ARE COMING, THEY CAN BUILD ON IT AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

>> COUNCILPERSON: ALL RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST -- I FEEL LIKE THE WATER TOWER IS PUT THERE FOR A REASON.

I WOULD JUST PREFER THE BRIDGE TO MOVE AWAY.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I'M NOT SAYING THE BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE.

I'M SAYING THAT WE NEED TO HIRE SOMEONE TO COME IN AND SAY -- NO ONE IS GOING TO MOVE THAT WATER TOWER.

WAY TOO MUCH MONEY. THE WATER TOWER IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. NOW THE CONVERSATION IS NOW WHAT. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN NOW WHAT ON THIS ROAD. AGAIN, UNLESS WE PROTECT IT, WE WILL KEEP HAVING NOW WHATS, AND OH, WE CAN'T.

>> COUNCILPERSON: OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD, THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR: JUST FOR CLARITY, WHILE IT TECHNICALLY HOLDS WATER, IT IS NOT POTABLE WATER. IT IS CALLED EQUALIZATION BASIN TO KEEP THE RUN-OFF FROM GETTING INTO THE RIVER AND FROM FOLKS COMING ALONG WANTING TO ACCUSE OF POLLUTING THE WATER.

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A NECESSARY PART OF PROTECTING OUR CITY.

COUNCILPERSON REDD, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

>> MAYOR: QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED FOR? ANY OBJECTION TO THE QUESTION. SEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, ARE O U READY TO VOTE? NOW VOTING ON THIS AMENDMENT.

ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVY MEMBERS VOTED.

ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR? MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE.

>> THREE YES, NINE NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MAYOR: AMENDMENT FAILS, COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU ARE

RECOGNIZED. >> COUNCILPERSON: I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IT.

THAT'S ALL I HAD, MAYOR. >> MAYOR: OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. >> COUNCILPERSON: NO, NO, I DO

HAVE ONE MORE. >> MAYOR: OKAY.

HOLD THE PHONE. >> COUNCILPERSON: SO THIS IS A BIT OF A REPEAT SINCE ONE SCHOOL SIDEWALK DIDN'T PASS.

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO ADD $1.4 MILLION TO INCREASE THE DEBT ISSUANCE TO CREATE A CAPITAL PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOR SIDEWALKS TO SCHOOL. AND THIS WOULD BUY ABOUT TWO OR THREE OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT THE SCHOOL SUGGESTED.

AGAIN, SENDING A MESSAGE TO OUR SCHOOLS THAT WE SEE THE CRISIS THAT THEY ARE IN AND THAT WE AS A CITY COUNCIL WANT TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND PART OF THE SUPPORT.

I'M NOT GOING -- IT IS THE SAME -- IT IS A LOT LESS THAN THE 6 MILLION. BUT IT IS THE SAME PROJECT.

>> MAYOR: YOU HAVE HEARD THE MOTION, DO I HEAR A SECOND? PROPERLY SECONDED. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, ANY FURTHER COMMENT ABOUT IT? OKAY.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED ON THIS AMENDMENT.

>> COUNCILPERSON: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR: THIS WOULD BE AMENDMENT NO. 10, MR. BAKER.

GO AHEAD. >> COUNCILPERSON: SO I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS BEFORE THE QUESTION GOT CALLED ON THE LAST ONE.

BUT IT IS APPLICABLE TO THIS ONE AS WELL.

AND IT MIGHT COME OUT AS ISN'T ISNSNARKY,I HAVE TO SAY IT.

I MIGHT COULD HAVE CONSIDERED THIS ONE AND THE PREVIOUS ONE IF WE COULD HAVE CUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WAY OF OUR LEGACY PROJECTS. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THANK YOU.

COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION TO MR. BAKER.

>> MAYOR: MR. BAKER, IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE MIKE.

>> COUNCILPERSON: IT IS DURING THE BUDGET, CORRECT, YOU CAN BRING AN AMENDMENT BACK? IF IT FAILS, YOU CAN BRING BACK

SECOND READING. >> THE RED RULE DOESN'T APPLY TO AMENDMENTSMENTS AT ALL. ACTUALLY, THE RED RULE DOESN'T APPLY TO THE BUDGET ORDINANCE EITHER.

IT USED TO, AND WE RAN NO A BIG PROBLEM.

WE AMENDED IT TO MAKE IT CLEARER IT DOESN'T.

>> COUNCILPERSON: I'M MAKING SURE, NEXT READING, ONE OF THE

AMENDMENTS CAN COME BACK. >> ALL THE AMENDMENTSMENTS CAN AMENDMENTS CAN COMEBACK WHETHERR FAILED.

>> MAYOR: OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE; HEARING NONE, ARE ? WE ARE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT. ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EVE MBERS VOTED. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR?

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 4 YES, 8 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> MAYOR: AMENDMENT FAILS. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, ANY MORE? OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED? SEEING NONE, ARE YOU READY TO VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE AS AME AMENDED? ALL MEMBERS CAST YOUR VOTE. EV. ANY MEMBER WISH TO CHANGE THEIR?

MADAM CLERK, TAKE THE VOTE. >> 9 YES, 3 NO, ZERO ABSTAIN.

>> ORDINANCE 146 IS ADOPTED, FIRST READING.

EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THERE, THERE IS A TIMELY ANNOUNCEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

COUNCILPERSON ALLEN TO MAKE IT AND THEN WE WILL TRA ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> COUNCILPERSON: ON JUNE 18TH, DOWN THERE AT CLARKSVILLE, LIBERTY PARK, THERE IS THE JUNE TEETH FESTIVAL. 12 TO 9 P.M.

GREAT FOOD, ACTIVITIES, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PARADE.

IT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD TIME AND IT IS GOING TO AN EVENT THAT EVERYONE IS INVITED TO BECAUSE WE WANT TO SHOW WHAT DIVERSITY LOOKS LIKE IN OUR CITY.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR: THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE SPECIAL SESSION OF CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL HAVING BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

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