Jan 26, 2023 Executive Meeting

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TO THE JANUARY 26, 2023 EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THE CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS, OUTSTANDING PRESENTATIONS, BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR AGENDA.

[1) PRESENTATION]

THERE SHE IS. MS..

BROWN, IF YOU WOULD, COME TO THE MICROPHONE ALONG WITH YOUR STUDENTS, ARE THEY DOING IT WELL? STUDENTS, HER NAME IS ON THE LIST, BUT YOU'VE BEEN DRAFTED.

SO IF YOU'LL COME TO THE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND PROCEED.

YES, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS JEFFREY ORTIZ, STUDENT AMBASSADOR, PRESIDENT WITH THE EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE AT TENNESSEE COLLEGE OF APPLIED TECHNOLOGY.

I AM A SENIOR AND A SECOND YEAR STUDENT IN THE HVAC PROGRAM.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AND MY FELLOW CLASSMATES TO PRESENT TO YOU.

TODAY. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A JOURNEYS FROM STUDENTS ON HOW WE GOT HERE, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THE BENEFITS WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN FROM OUR PROGRAMS. AND THE FIRST STORY YOU WILL HEAR WILL BE MINE.

GROWING UP, I WAS ALWAYS SURROUNDED BY THE ART OF TRADE WORK FROM LANDSCAPING WITH MY GRANDFATHER, PAINTING HOUSES WITH MY MOTHER, OR GOING TO WORK WITH MY FATHER AS A STATIONARY ENGINEER IN NASHVILLE.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AROUND THAT KIND OF WORK.

THROUGHOUT MY JOURNEY IN PUBLIC SCHOOL, I STRUGGLED TO PASS.

I WAS SKIMMING THROUGH EVERY YEAR UNTIL I FOUND EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE.

EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE HAS CHANGED MY LIFE COMPLETELY AND FOR THE BETTER.

THROUGHOUT MY TIME AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, I'VE BEEN GIVEN SO MUCH I'VE LEARNED THE ART OF PUBLIC SPEAKING, A SUMMERTIME JOB WHICH I CURRENTLY STILL WORK BEFORE SCHOOL, AND FOR INTERNSHIPS, CERTIFICATIONS AND JOB SHADOWING.

JOB SHADOWING WAS OFFERED TO ME MY JUNIOR YEAR WITH THE CITY MAINTENANCE CREWS OF CLARKSVILLE.

DURING THAT TIME, I LEARNED A LOT REPLACING VALVES AND THE WINTERIZING POOLS AND JUST SO MUCH MORE.

THE CREWS THERE WERE VERY HELPFUL AND VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE SUCH AS DAN JUNIOR AND PAUL AND MANY OTHERS WHO HELPED BROADEN MY KNOWLEDGE, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND ONE OF THE SLIDES YOU CAN SEE ME DO BRAZING TWO PIECES OF COPPER PIPE.

AND FOR ME BEING IN FACT, THAT IS VERY USEFUL PIECE OF KNOWLEDGE FOR ME TO HAVE DUE TO THE FACT IN HVAC, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO RAISE COPPER PIPES FROM MAIN COMPONENTS OF THE UNIT SUCH AS THE ACCUMULATOR OR THE REVERSING VALVE.

SO I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY WHICH HELPED LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR ME TO WORK AT AC ELECTRICAL AT THE NEWLY BUILT KIRKWOOD SCHOOLS OVER THE SUMMER.

AT 16 YEARS OLD, I WAS BLESSED TO BE MAKING $1,000 A WEEK.

OVER THAT COURSE OF THAT SUMMER, I MADE CLOSE TO $8,000, WHICH WAS A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR ME BECAUSE, ONE, IT OPENED MY EYES TO THE POTENTIAL AND HARD WORK MENTALITY THAT WAS IN ME.

AND TWO, WITH THAT MONEY I SAVED AND FROM A CAR I SOLD, I WAS ABLE TO BUY A TRUCK, WHICH IN TURN TOOK AWAY A BURDEN FROM MY PARENTS AND GAVE ME A NEW SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY.

NOW, ANYONE WHO KNOWS MY PARENTS, THEY LOVE AND WILL HELP REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU CAN DO IT BY YOURSELF OR NOT, ESPECIALLY MY MAMA WHO'S SITTING RIGHT BEHIND ME.

WELL, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU? PROCEED. BUT STILL, BEING ABLE TO BUY YOUR OWN CAR AT 16 YEARS OLD.

SHOW ME A NEW AND EXCITING PART THAT I WAS ON.

SO TEN THINGS OFF WITHOUT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE AT TENNESSEE COLLEGE OF APPLIED TECHNOLOGY AND THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

I DO NOT KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IF YOU'LL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND PROCEED.

PLACER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

HELLO. MY NAME IS GAVIN BRUMLEY AND I'M CURRENTLY A SENIOR STUDYING THE DIESEL POWERED EQUIPMENT PROGRAM AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE.

EVER SINCE I WAS YOUNG, I HAD AN INTEREST IN CARS.

ONCE I STARTED MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WANTED TO BECOME A VEHICLE ENGINEER.

BUT LATER ON IN HIGH SCHOOL, AFTER SOME DEEPER RESEARCH, I FOUND OUT THAT ALL THE MATH IT TAKES TO BECOME AN ENGINEER WAS JUST A LITTLE TOO DIFFICULT FOR ME.

I DECIDED THAT IF I COULDN'T DESIGN THE CARS, I WOULD FIX THEM.

THAT IS WHEN I DECIDED I WANT TO BECOME A MECHANIC.

SO WHEN I SAW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, WHICH HAS A DIESEL POWERED EQUIPMENT PROGRAM, I QUICKLY JUMPED ON BOARD WITH IT AND APPLIED.

TO MY SURPRISE, I WAS ACCEPTED TO THE DIESEL PROGRAM.

I WAS ECSTATIC BECAUSE I KNEW THAT I'D LEARNED A TON.

BUT FIRST I HAD TO GET MY GRADES IN ORDER.

AND EVER SINCE THEN, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP MY GRADES UP TO A'S AND B'S.

BECAUSE I LOVE GOING TO SCHOOL NOW AND I WANT TO STAY IN THE PROGRAM BY DOING SO.

I'VE BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE NATIONAL TECHNICAL HONOR SOCIETY DURING MY TIME OF EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOB SHADOW AND START PAID INTERNSHIP WITH

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I'VE SINCE THEN APPLIED EVERYTHING THAT I'VE LEARNED AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE FROM SAFETY PROCEDURES ALL THE WAY UP TO HOW TO TROUBLESHOOT VEHICLE PROBLEMS. DURING MY JOB SHADOWING AND INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITY WITH THE CITY GARAGE, I'VE ALSO HAD THE CHANCE TO BE TAUGHT SOME NEW SKILLS, LIKE HOW TO WELD, WORK ON HYDRAULICS AND DO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK MARY JO PITTS FOR GIVING ME AND MY FELLOW PEERS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE EMPLOYEES AT THE CITY GARAGE FOR TREATING ME LIKE ONE OF THEIR OWN AND TEACHING ME VALUABLE SKILLS I'LL BE ABLE TO USE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

HELLO. MY NAME IS KIRA THOMAS.

I AM A SECOND YEAR INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE STUDENT.

WHENEVER I WAS FIVE, MY DAD TOOK ME OUT TO THE DRIVEWAY WITH HIM TO DO MY FIRST OIL CHANGE.

TO SOME PEOPLE, THAT MAY SEEM LIKE IT'S A SMALL TASK, BUT FOR ME IT CHANGED MY LIFE.

I REMEMBER SITTING IN A TRADITIONAL CLASSROOM AND FEELING A HUGE DISCONNECT BECAUSE IT WASN'T AS HANDS ON OR REAL WORLD WITH.

UM. IT WASN'T.

AS WITH PROJECTS WITH MY FATHER IN HIGH SCHOOL, I WAS IN THE STEM ACADEMY AND I QUICKLY LEARNED THAT IT WASN'T FOR ME BECAUSE IT WASN'T AS HANDS ON AS I HAD HOPED.

WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE IN MY SOPHOMORE YEAR, I WAS ECSTATIC BECAUSE I.

I WAS ABLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT.

THE ELECTRICAL AND MECHANICAL SYSTEMS. OVER THE SUMMER, I WAS GRANTED A CHANCE TO WORK AT TCA TO FURTHER MY KNOWLEDGE IN MY SECOND YEAR.

WITHIN THOSE TWO MONTHS I WORKED AT.

EXCUSE ME. I WORKED ON A MECHANICAL TRAINER AND ALSO SOLDERED AN ELECTRIC CANDLE.

IN THE FALL, THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT GAVE ME A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THEM IN INTERN WITH THEM.

I'VE ONLY BEEN WORKING THERE FOR A FEW MONTHS AND I'VE ALREADY LEARNED SO MUCH, SUCH AS WORKING, WORKING, WORKING WITH ELECTRICITY AND WELDING.

THIS HAS TAUGHT ME HOW TO FIX LIGHTS IN MY OWN HOME.

I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT I HAVE AND THAT I HAVE MADE IN ORDER TO GAIN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I DO TODAY.

AND BECAUSE OF ONE SIGNIFICANT EVENT IN MY LIFE.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

HELLO. MY NAME IS COLE GUERRERO.

I'M A SENIOR AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, AND I AM IN MY SECOND YEAR IN THE INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE MECHATRONICS FIELD AT THE TENNESSEE COLLEGE OF APPLIED TECHNOLOGY.

MY INTEREST IN THE IOM FIELD COMES FROM MY DESIRE OF STARTING MY OWN MULTI TRADE BUSINESS HERE IN CLARKSVILLE, AND I BELIEVE EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, ALONG WITH THE FIELD, WILL GIVE ME THE TOOLS I NEED TO START MY JOURNEY.

I SAW A WAY TO MAKE MY DREAM COME TRUE AND CAME ACROSS THE OPTIONS OF STAYING IN NORMAL SCHOOL, GOING TO AUSTIN PEAY OR EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE.

I CHOSE ETSY BECAUSE IT SHOWED ME THAT IT COULD PROVIDE ME ALL THE TOOLS I NEED TO MAKE MY DREAM A REALITY.

WHEN I WAS ATTENDING MY FIRST YEAR AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, I WAS ABLE TO USE THE INFORMATION THAT ETSY AND TECH HAD TAUGHT ME TO HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING WHILST I ATTENDED THE JOB SHARING PROGRAM AND HELPED ME CONNECT THE DOTS TOGETHER TO DEEPEN MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE TRADES.

I LEARNED A BUNCH OF HANDS ON EXPERIENCES IN RELATION TO MY FIELD AND WHAT IT WOULD HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE FOR, AS WELL AS WHAT THEY WOULD EXPECT ME TO KNOW AND DO.

LATER ON IN MY NOW SECOND YEAR AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, I HAVE QUALIFIED FOR IT AND AM STILL PARTICIPATING IN THE INTERNSHIP THAT THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE HAS GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED FOR OUR TRADESMEN AND TRAINING.

THE INTERNSHIP HAS OPENED EVEN MORE DOORS FOR ME TO FURTHER MY DREAM AND HAS GIVEN ME EVEN MORE CONNECTIONS.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CARLOS LOPEZ.

I'M A SENIOR IN THE INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE AND MECHATRONICS PROGRAM.

MY STORY STARTS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WHEN MY FATHER TOOK ME TO THE MILITARY BASE AT FORT CAMPBELL, WHERE HE WORKED ON THE UAV DRONES, I CAN STILL REMEMBER THE SURPRISE FACE I MADE WHEN I SAW THEM TAKE OFF.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE.

I KNEW FROM THAT DAY I WANTED A CAREER WORKING WITH MACHINES WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL, I FELT LOST.

LIKE THE ONLY WAY I COULD ACHIEVE MY DREAM WOULD BE TO WAIT UNTIL COLLEGE.

THAT WAS UNTIL AN EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE REPRESENTATIVE VISITED MY CLASS AND TOLD ME EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF OLD SCHOOL, OF OLD WORK, OLD SCHOOL WORK, MY DREAM WAS REIGNITED.

WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE TECH PROGRAM, I HAD SOME TROUBLE ADJUSTING TO A COMPLETELY NEW SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT, BUT THE OPPORTUNITIES I'VE BEEN GIVEN GREATLY OUTWEIGH THE HARDSHIPS I ORIGINALLY FACED.

THROUGHOUT THE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN GIVEN WITH THE PROGRAM, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO JOB SHADOW AND INTERN WITH THE CLARKSVILLE CITY BUILDING AND FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.

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ANY TIME I HAD A QUESTION THEY WOULD ALWAYS BE WILLING TO EXPLAIN IN GREAT DETAIL.

EVEN IF I WAS SELLING OUT, THEY WOULD ALWAYS EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THEY WERE DOING AND UNDERSTANDABLE AND PROFESSIONAL WAY.

WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD WORKING WITH THE CITY THESE PAST YEARS WILL HELP ME IN THE FUTURE.

NOT A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO EXIT HIGH SCHOOL CAN SAY WHAT CAREER THEY WANT.

AND I ALREADY HAVE WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD.

I WOULD LIKE TO GREATLY THANK EVERYONE FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES I'VE BEEN GIVEN.

THANK YOU. TODAY YOU JUST HEARD VARIOUS JOURNEYS FROM JUST A FEW OF THE STUDENTS WE HAVE AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE AND THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UPON US THROUGH EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, BUT ALSO FROM THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND BEING ABLE TO JOB SHADOW AND INTERN WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

SO ON BEHALF OF MY FELLOW CLASSMATES OF EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE, WE SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOB, SHADOW AND INTERN AND YOUR PART AND HELP EXPANDING OUR HORIZONS BY ALLOWING US TO APPLY WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED AND BEEN TAUGHT IN WORLD WORTH SETTINGS.

PLUS, THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE GAINED FROM OUR MENTORS FROM THESE OPPORTUNITIES IS JUST PRICELESS.

WE HOPE TO HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP CONTINUE FOR FUTURE STUDENTS OF EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE TO COME.

GOD BLESS AND THANK YOU ALL.

I'M GOING TO CRY. A LOT OF YOU KNOW ME AND KNOW THAT I'M PRETTY EMOTIONAL ABOUT MY STUDENTS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM CONSTANCE BROWN AND I'M THE SUCCESS COACH AT EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE AT THE TENNESSEE COLLEGE OF APPLIED TECHNOLOGY.

AND LAST YEAR, WHEN WE DECIDED TO OFFER FIELD EXPERIENCES FOR OUR TRADES PROGRAMS. MAYOR PITTS IS THE FIRST PERSON I CALLED AND HE OPENED THE DOORS TO THE CITY FOR OUR STUDENTS, PROVIDING US OPPORTUNITIES WITH BILLY LEE AND THE CITY GARAGE AND JUNIOR SIMON OF THE FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.

AND YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD THE RESULTS OF THAT COLLABORATION.

EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE IS A PART OF CMC.

YES. HOWEVER, IT IS THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND TK HAT THAT MAKES ETSY A TRULY UNIQUE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR THE STUDENTS STUDENTS OF THE CLARKSVILLE COMMUNITY.

AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THE FORWARD THINKING ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO OF DR.

JEAN LUNA VETTER, DR.

SEAN AND PATRICE OF CMC S AND DR.

SUMMERS, PRESIDENT OF TCA AT DIXON AND CLARKSVILLE AND MAKING THE IDEA OF EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE OF REALITY IS TRULY THE REASON WE ARE STANDING BEFORE YOU TODAY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN A PART OF THE CREATION OF OUR SCHOOL AND EVERYONE WHO HAS OFFERED US AVENUES TO HELP OUR STUDENTS GROW. AND WITH US TONIGHT, I HAVE OUR PRINCIPAL, DR.

KAREN BEARD, AS WELL AS THE CAMPUS DIRECTOR IS DEANA GRIFFIN FROM TXDOT.

AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BROWN.

YES. DON'T LET ANYBODY EVER TELL YOU OUR FUTURE'S NOT BRIGHT.

STANDING RIGHT THERE.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEERS HERE THAT WANTED TO COME AND SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS.

WE ARE A FAMILY AND WE HAVE ALLIED HEALTH PROGRAMS AS WELL AS TRADE PROGRAMS WHERE FOR JUNIORS AND SENIORS, ANYONE IN THE CLARKSVILLE MONTGOMERY COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO I JUST I GET SPEECHLESS AND I GET EMOTIONAL.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I KNOW THEIR NAMES WERE CALLED, SO I WANT TO ASK THEM TO COME UP AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE STUDENTS.

BUT BILLY LEE AND JUNIOR SIMON ARE THE QUIET PROFESSIONALS THERE.

THEY ARE BEHIND THE SCENES AND JUST MAKE THIS CITY WORK AND WORK WELL.

SO, JUNIOR, YOU AND BILLY COME FORWARD, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

AND MIKE PALMORE, YOU'RE THE DIRECTOR OF THAT BUILDING FACILITY, MINUS TO WATCH THEM COME UP.

AND LET'S GET A PICTURE WITH THESE STUDENTS AND THEIR PEERS AS WELL.

MISS BROWN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BRING THEM UP.

MS.. BEARD AND MS..

GRIFFITH. AND TURN AROUND THE OTHER WAY.

I'M SORRY. I'M SURE WE DON'T HAVE.

THE SCRUNCH UP. PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T.

DON'T GET OFF. I DON'T WANT TO.

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ALL RIGHT. THREE.

BEFORE YOU GET GONE. WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WISH TO MAKE STATEMENTS OR ASK QUESTIONS, SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY.

COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE STUDENTS.

I LOVE TO SEE STUDENTS LEARNING AND GROWING AS THEY LEARN AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WORK AND MAKE SOME MONEY.

CONGRATULATIONS. YES, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS..

BROWN. YES, MA'AM.

HOW MANY LET ME SAY THIS IS FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ONLY.

YES, MA'AM. OUR JUNIOR AND SENIOR, IF YOU'LL COME TO THE MICROPHONE THAT WAY, WE CAN PICK YOU UP.

ALL RIGHT. I WAS GOING TO USE MY TEACHER VOICE.

WE ARE FOR JUNIORS AND SENIORS ONLY, AND WE'RE A HYBRID HIGH SCHOOL.

YES. WHAT ABOUT STUDENTS THAT HAVE GRADUATED FROM SCHOOL AND HAVE APPLIED TO GET INTO THE COLLEGE? THAT WOULD BE ON THE ADULT SIDE OF CATS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU TAKE THAT IS OF GROWING SCHOOL.

THEIR PROGRAMS ARE DIFFICULT TO GET INTO FOR LONG WAITING LIST.

AND WHAT I HAVE TOLD ALL THE COUNSELORS THAT I KNOW THAT IF THEY WANT TO GET HIGHER UP ON THAT WAITING LIST, DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE SPRING TO APPLY FOR A PROGRAM. WE HAVE COLLEGE APP WEEK IN SEPTEMBER.

EVERY YEAR THOSE KIDS NEED TO APPLY FOR WHATEVER PROGRAM THEY WANT TO BE IN IN SEPTEMBER, AND THAT WILL MOVE THEM, GET THEM HIGHER ON THE ON THE SCALE. WELL, GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.

I LOVE THIS.

I LOVE LOVE THIS BECAUSE I GOT MY TECHNICAL DEGREE IN CULINARY AS AN ADULT.

AND I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH A LOT OF KIDS THAT WERE RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.

AND WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, WE HAD A PROGRAM CALLED VO TECH WHERE THIS WAS YOUR OPTION.

YOU EITHER WENT TO SCHOOL FOR THE COLLEGE TRACK OR YOU WENT HALF OF THE DAY TO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

SO I LOVE THIS.

THIS IS SO COOL.

HOW MANY STUDENTS? I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

SORRY, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE IN THE PROGRAM CURRENTLY? I BELIEVE BECAUSE WE HAD SOME JUNIORS COME IN AT 58.

DR. BEARD. 62.

AND RIGHT NOW, WITH OUR BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING, WE WILL BE FULL AT 100.

AND WE HOPE TO GET CLOSE TO THAT WITH OUR MARKETING CAMPAIGN.

WE'RE RUNNING IN THE FALL.

AND IS THAT BECAUSE OF INTEREST OR BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE SPACE FOR 100 SO 62 BECAUSE OF INTEREST? I JUST REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS I THINK WE'RE THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PUSHED AS LIKE I SAID, AS A TRACK LIKE AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE CAN DO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY AND THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL, TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING WHERE THE KIDS CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE.

SO AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN THAT'S OKAY.

THE CTE DEPARTMENT WITH DR.

DANA PAYNE.

DR. BAIRD AND I HAVE BEEN VERY CONSCIOUS THIS YEAR ABOUT MARKETING EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE AND GETTING OUT MORE.

WE'VE HAD FAMILY TOURS WHERE PARENTS AND INTERESTED STUDENTS CAN COME OUT AND THESE STUDENTS TAKE THEM THROUGH THEIR PROGRAMS AND THE ALLIED HEALTH PROGRAMS. AND THAT SEEMS TO HAVE SPARKED MORE INTEREST BECAUSE THEY GET TO COME OUT AND ACTUALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE THING THE THING IS WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS GOING ON IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY THAT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO KNOW EVERYTHING.

SO WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSCIOUS THIS YEAR ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHO WE ARE.

VERY COOL. AND THEN SO WHEN THEY GRADUATE, THEY COME OUT WITH THE CERTIFICATIONS, ETC.

TO GO DIRECTLY INTO LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY PROFESSIONALS.

THEY WILL THEY DO TWO TRIMESTERS IF THEY COME IN AS THEY'RE IN THEIR JUNIOR YEAR.

AND WHEN THEY COME OUT, THEY WILL GO, LIKE I SAID, WHILE WE GO, THERE'S A WAITING LIST.

OUR KIDS GO TO THE TOP OF THE LIST.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

AND IN NO MORE THAN A YEAR THEY WILL COME OUT FULLY CREDENTIALED IN THEIR IN THEIR PROGRAM, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE PROGRAM IS. WE HAVE SOME FIVE TRIMESTER PROGRAMS AND SOME THAT ARE AS FEW AS THREE.

SO BY THE TIME THESE STUDENTS ARE 19 YEARS OLD, THEY ARE FULLY CREDENTIALED IN A PROGRAM.

THEY CAN GO OUT. WE HAVE GEOFFREY HAS GOT AN OFFER.

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HE'LL BE 19 YEARS OLD.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER STUDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY READY DOING THAT.

MR. ORTIZ IS ABOUT TO HIRE ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR STUDENTS AS A STATIONARY ENGINEER.

AND SO, I MEAN, AND THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT THIS, THERE IS NO I MEAN, ZERO COLLEGE DEBT.

THEY ARE GOING INTO A CAREER AT 18 OR 19 MAKING ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO $30 AN HOUR TO START WITH ZERO COLLEGE DEBT.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GO TO WAR FOR IT.

NO. AMEN.

AND THEN ALL THEY ALL HAVE OUTFITS, ALLIED HEALTH.

THEY HAVE THEIR UNIFORMS. SO UNIFORMS, TOOLS, SUPPLIES, STUFF LIKE THAT.

TWO QUESTIONS IS IT'S ALL PROVIDED, I ASSUME? YES, MA'AM. AND THEN IS THERE A LIKE DO YOU GUYS FUNDRAISE OR IS THERE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU TAKE DONATIONS? IF ANYONE WATCHING LATER IS INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THE SCHOOL, I'M SURE WE WILL TAKE DONATIONS.

I THINK DR.

BAIRD AND I, I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR US ON THAT RIGHT NOW THROUGH CTE AND PERKINS FUNDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND GOVERNOR LEE'S REAL BIG INTEREST IN CTE EDUCATION.

WE GOT AN INNOVATIVE HIGH SCHOOL GRANT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FOR SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS.

SO IT WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION.

STUDENTS DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHETHER THEY CAN DRIVE OUT THERE OR NOT.

THE BUS WILL GET THEM. THE BUS WILL TAKE THEM HOME AT THEIR HOMES AND WE BUY TOOLS.

IF THEY NEED UNIFORMS FOR THE PROGRAM, WE PROVIDE THOSE.

WE ALSO WORK WITH ONE OF THE SUBSIDIARIES OF WORKFORCE ESSENTIALS, THE WE O AND AMERICAN JOB CENTER, AND THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB ABOUT TRYING TO GET OUR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, WHEN THEY'RE READY TO INTERN QUALIFIED IN THOSE PROGRAMS. THEY PAY THE KIDS SALARIES AND IF THEY NEED ADDITIONAL TOOLS, THEY PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL TOOLS FOR THEM.

AND IF THEY NEED MORE UNIFORMS. I MEAN, IT IS TRULY PHENOMENAL.

BEST YEARS OF TAX DOLLARS I'VE EVER SEEN.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.

YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.

SERIOUSLY, I WAS NOWHERE NEAR THERE WHEN I WAS 16.

I PROMISE.

AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.

GOT TIME FOR A COUPLE MORE.

GO AHEAD. YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUICK I KNOW THAT THERE'S.

DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DIPLOMA.

SO WHAT TYPE OF HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION DIPLOMA? THEY WILL GET A REGULAR HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY GRADUATE FROM CMC S CURRENTLY, THEY WILL GRADUATE WITH THEIR HOME SCHOOLS AND THEN IN OUR PHARMACY TECH PROGRAM, IF YOU COME IN AS A JUNIOR AND WILL GO TO SCHOOL FULL TIME THIS SUMMER BETWEEN YOUR JUNIOR AND SENIOR YEAR, THAT'S A THREE TRIMESTER PROGRAM.

AND STUDENTS WHO WISH TO DO THAT AND WORK REAL HARD, THEY CAN GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL, DUAL DIPLOMA, PHARMACY TECH AND HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON MARQUIS.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO I ALSO ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS.

IT'S BRINGS ME BACK TO MY TIME ALSO IN SCHOOL, BECAUSE I ALSO WENT TO A HYBRID PROGRAM IN AVIATION WHERE OUR SCHOOL ALLOWED KIDS TO EARN THEIR PRIVATE PILOT'S LICENSE.

WE WOULD GO OUT ON THE WEEKENDS AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A REALLY INTERESTING EXPERIENCE TO GIVE TO THE KIDS.

SO SEEING THAT OR AN ASPECT OF THAT HERE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY WHERE THE KIDS ARE HAVING HANDS ON EXPERIENCE AS WELL, IT'S AMAZING, ESPECIALLY YOU'RE ON THE JOB, YOU SEE HOW THE REAL LIFE IS AFTER HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL.

SO YOU'RE ALREADY A FOOT IN THE DOOR.

THIS IS AMAZING. AND I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

HOW DO THE KIDS APPLY? LIKE WHEN DOES THAT START? ALSO, LIKE IN JANUARY OF EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS START BUILDING THEIR SCHEDULES.

COUNSELORS START BUILDING SCHEDULES FOR THE NEXT YEAR, OUR STUDENTS AND DOCTOR BEARD AND OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD FAMILY TOURS.

SO THERE HAVE BEEN INTERESTS, THERE HAVE BEEN INTEREST MEETINGS.

THERE WAS AN INTEREST MEETING AT AT GRACIE THE OTHER NIGHT.

SO WHEN COUNSELORS GO INTO THE ENGLISH CLASSROOMS, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THEY THEY WILL TELL THEM THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR EARLY TECHNICAL COLLEGE.

THEY THEY FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.

DR. BEARD STARTED SENDING ME INVITATIONS TODAY.

SO THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY, WE WILL BE GOING TO EACH HIGH SCHOOL AND ALL OF THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST.

WE WILL INTERVIEW.

THERE IS A GRADE POINT AVERAGE REQUIREMENT.

YOU CANNOT BE DELINQUENT AND CREDITS BEHAVIOR.

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BUT MOST OF THE KIDS THAT APPLY, THEY'VE GOT IT GOING ON, YOU KNOW.

ANYWAY, AND JUST A FUNNY SIDE NOTE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO OWN BUSINESS AND THINGS IN THIS CITY AND THEY'RE ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T SHOW UP FOR WORK, THEY WON'T DO THIS OR THAT.

AND I JUST LAUGH AND TELL THEM I'M LIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW MY KIDS BECAUSE THESE KIDS DO SHOW UP AND THEY WORK AND THEY KNOW TO STAY IN THE PROGRAM AND IN TURN THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN ACADEMIC LEVEL WITH THEIR GRADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS IS THE FUTURE.

MAYOR PITTS AND IT IS VERY, VERY, VERY BRIGHT.

THANK YOU. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU GUYS ARE FINDING OUT IN THE PROGRAM, COLLEGE ISN'T THE ONLY OPTION OUT THERE.

THERE IS TRADE SCHOOL THAT WILL GIVE YOU A HIGH PAYING JOB AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS PUTTING IN THE WORK.

AND TO YOU, MS..

BROWN, FOR HELPING WITH THIS PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THREE THINGS BEFORE WE LET YOU GO.

FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE HIRING WILL WYATT.

MR. WYATT IS IN THE BACK.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

WE'LL BE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FROM YOU.

SECONDLY, WE WANT TO.

COUNCILPERSON SMITH HAD A BIRTHDAY, AND SHE HAS CUPCAKES, AND SHE WANTS TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

YOU? THEY'RE TEENAGERS.

THEY WOULD NEVER TURN DOWN FOOD.

AND I THINK COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS HAD A LITTLE INFLUENCE ON ONE OF THESE STUDENTS, DIDN'T YOU? NOT? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

SO I RECOGNIZED A COUPLE OF THE STUDENTS FROM THE HALLS OF WEST CREEK.

BUT THE BROTHER OF OUR AMBASSADOR HERE WAS ONE OF MY STUDENTS.

HE'S OUT HERE SUPPORTING HIS BROTHER.

WAVE TO US, JESSIE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. ZACHARIAS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH.

CONSTANCE. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT YOU HAVE GIVEN US.

DON'T FORGET THE CUPCAKES.

OF COURSE. YEAH.

HEY, IS MR. PRESIDENT.

SO IT IS. WELL DONE.

AND SPEAKING OF CULINARY ARTS, COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, IT WAS COUNCILPERSON MCLAUGHLIN THAT MADE THOSE.

SO THANK YOU.

SHE'S WEARING A MATCHING SWEATER FOR THE CUPCAKES.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THE NEXT PRESENTATION WE HAVE IS ABOUT CIVIC CLERK, AN EXCITING NEW SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT WE'LL BE IMPLEMENTING, AND THE COUNCIL WILL BE INTEGRALLY INVOLVED WITH THAT.

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AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE STUDENTS FOR BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON IN SUPPORT OF YOUR FELLOW STUDENTS.

AND THE FAMILIES TO THE SUPPORT OF THE STUDENTS.

YOU SHOULD BE PROUD TO SAY WE'RE HERE FOR YOU ALL KNOW THE DRILL.

WE DO. THAT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.

LET ME TELL YOU FIRST.

SO FOR EVERYONE WHO'S WATCHING AND DOESN'T KNOW WHO I AM, I'M LISA CANFIELD.

I'M THE CITY CLERK. THIS IS AMY WILSON, OUR CIO.

WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT SOFTWARE WE'VE BEEN TRAINING ON FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

IT'S CALLED CIVIC CLARK.

AND WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT ALL OF YOU AND OUR CITIZENS.

SO BASICALLY, CIVIC CLARK IS AN AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AND IT'S AN ADD ON TO SOFTWARE.

WE ARE A PLATFORM WE CURRENTLY USE FOR OUR WEBSITE.

THE SOFTWARE WILL PROVIDE CONSISTENCY AND AND EFFICIENCY TO OUR AGENDAS AND MINUTES AND FOR ALL CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, ALL COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND ALL BOARD AND COMMISSION OR SOME BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.

IT WILL ALSO WHICH I'M LOVING THIS.

IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY POST TO OUR WEBSITE AND IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY SEND ITEMS OFF FOR CODIFICATION.

ALL AGENDAS AND MINUTES WILL BE UNIFORM.

SO THERE WILL BE ONE TEMPLATE THAT EVERYBODY USES AND IT'LL HAVE ADA COMPLIANT FONTS.

THE SOFTWARE WILL PROVIDE EASY ACCESS TO BOTH OUR USERS INTERNALLY AND TO OUR CITIZENS.

IT ALLOW FOR BETTER SEARCH ABILITY ON OUR WEBSITE FOR AGENDAS FOR MINUTES AND ANY ATTACHMENTS.

ALL OF YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE PORTAL ON YOUR IPADS OR YOUR LAPTOPS.

SO IF YOU'RE HAVING ANY ISSUES WITH YOUR IPADS, LET ME KNOW SO WE CAN GET THAT FIXED.

BE SIMILAR TO THE IPAD AGENDA FOLDER THAT YOU USE NOW, EXCEPT YOU'LL EACH HAVE YOUR UNIQUE LOGIN AND PASSWORD.

YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FOLDER AND YOU CAN GO IN AND MAKE NOTES ON YOUR AGENDAS, ON THE MINUTES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO ALL YOURS.

LET'S SEE, THE SOFTWARE WILL PROVIDE LIVE STREAMING FOR US.

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CITIZENS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THESE VIDEOS AS THEY DO NOW.

THE VIDEOS WILL ALSO INCLUDE A TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING AND THAT'S REALLY COOL.

WE'VE HAD THAT IN THE PAST.

YOU CAN CLICK ON THE TRANSCRIPT ANYWHERE AND IT'LL TAKE YOU TO THAT POINT IN TIME IN THE VIDEO.

AND THIS WILL ALSO PULL UP WHATEVER DOCUMENTS WERE SHARED OR POSTED AT THAT TIME.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE 24 SEVEN SUPPORT, WHICH WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE FOR OUR LIVE STREAMING BASED OUT OF A DIFFERENT COUNTRY OR LIVE STREAMING.

NO, IT'S HERE TEXAS.

AND SO FOR TRAINING.

WRONG. WRONG PROGRAM FOR TRAINING.

WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR SCHEDULING TRAINING FOR ALL OF YOU.

WE'VE BEEN TRAINING OUR STAFF WILL BE TRAINING ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK WITH A FOLLOW UP, TRAINING THE FOLLOWING WEEK, AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON GETTING ALL OF YOU TRAINED.

WE'RE LOOKING TO SCHEDULE SOMETIME IN LATE AFTERNOON TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF YOUR SCHEDULES.

WE'RE JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

IT'S REALLY GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE DO THINGS.

IT'LL MAKE US MORE EFFICIENT AND WE'RE JUST EXCITED ABOUT IT.

CAN'T WAIT TO ROLL IT OUT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'LL GET MORE INFORMATION.

IT'S COMING, SO JUST BE READY.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS EASY.

ALL RIGHT, FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT, MR.

[3) PLANNING COMMISSION ]

23 YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

WHILE WE WAIT TO PULL THAT UP, WASN'T THAT INSPIRING BY THOSE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS? AND AGAIN, HARD ACT TO FOLLOW FOR US AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

THE FIRST CASE TONIGHT IS ORDINANCE ORDINANCE 73, 2022, 23, PLANNING COMMISSION, CASE Z ONE 2023 APPLICATION OF J DEVELOPMENT. STANLEY ROSS IS THE AGENT.

THIS IS A PORTION OF A PROPERTY 3.36 ACRES IS THE REQUEST FOR THE REZONING.

THE PROPERTY IN TOTAL IS ABOUT FIVE ACRES.

IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED C FIVE AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO GO TO R FOUR IF ON YOUR STAFF REPORTS THERE.

IF YOU SEE PSEUDO, THAT'S THE MADISON STREET URBAN DESIGN OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH THIS PROPERTY IS AND ANYTHING BUILT ON IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE R FOR THAT.

YOU CAN SEE IT IS IN THE AREA MIXED WITH THE C FIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS A PORTION FRONTING MADISON STREET, APPROXIMATELY 585 FEET WEST OF MADISON STREET AND VILLAGE WAY INTERSECTION.

THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER SEVEN.

THE TRACK IS WOODED ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE AREA REQUESTED FOR THE ZONE CHANGE.

HERE IS MADISON STREET.

THE PROPERTY IS ON THE RIGHT AFTER THE CMC'S PROPERTY.

THERE IS TWO PROPERTIES DOWN ON THE RIGHT THERE IT IS THERE WITH OUR SIGN OUT.

THERE'S THE NEXT DOOR PROPERTY JUST OPENED.

LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE CITY PROPERTIES ON THE LEFT AND THEN ONE ACROSS THE STREET WITH SOME CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.

CURRENTLY, THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO PROVIDE FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE ARTERIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD. EXISTING FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.

THE STREET DEPARTMENT HAD ISSUES WITH THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, BUT THAT WILL BE WORKED OUT AT THE SITE DESIGN PHASE.

IT HAS TO DO MORE WITH PLATTING AND WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE, BUT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE MET WITH THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND WORKED OUT A PRELIMINARY WAY TO WORK THAT OUT WHEN IT COMES IN FOR SITE REVIEW.

NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

HISTORICAL YIELDS WOULD BE 40 UNITS STATED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM THE FLOOR OF THE ENGINEER SAID THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE HIGH.

THERE IS, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR THIS NEXT WEEK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL BLUE LINE STREAMS AND WET AREAS TOWARD THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY.

THERE ARE AREAS THAT JUST CAN'T BE DEVELOPED AT ALL.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE BUFFERED BY A CERTAIN DISTANCE THAT YOU CAN'T GET CLOSE TO.

WITH CONSTRUCTION OR PAVING OR ANY SOIL DISTURBANCES.

SO THE BACK HALF OF THIS PROPERTY PRETTY MUCH HAS A NATURAL BUFFER BUILT IN AND THAT BUFFER IS FAIRLY WIDE IN SOME AREAS OVER 150, 200 FEET IN SOME AREAS.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

THE REQUESTED ZONE OF THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY PROVIDES A TRANSITION FROM C FIVE TO THE ESTABLISHED ARE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE.

NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MR. TINDALL.

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YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU, MR. TINDALL. SO THE ACCESS WILL IT BE FROM THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF IT THAT FRONTS MADISON STREET? OR IS THAT TO BE DETERMINED? TO BE DETERMINED. BUT THE OWNER INDICATED THIS WOULD REMAIN AS ONE PARCEL SO THEY COULD IN THE FUTURE.

THEY DO HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS.

THEY COULD PARCEL OFF 1 TO 1 DRIVEWAY AND ONE TO ANOTHER AND MAYBE DO AN ACCESS EASEMENT OR SOMETHING.

BUT THEY DO HAVE PLENTY OF LEGAL ACCESS AND FRONTAGE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS YOU RECOGNIZED? YES. MR. TINDALL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I'M SEEING EMAILS ABOUT THE THE BLUE LINE.

SO ACCORDING TO THE MEETING THAT THAT I WAS AT, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH STATE AND FEDERAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLIANT FOR THAT BLUE LINE.

IS THAT CORRECT? ALMOST.

THEY WILL BE REVIEWED BY TDCJ FOR THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FEDERAL REVIEW.

THE STATE WILL HANDLE THAT REVIEW.

BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU HAVE THEIR FENCES UP AND THAT THE DISTURBANCES ARE X AMOUNT OF FEET AWAY FROM THE BANKS OF THE WATERWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION.

WE'RE READY FOR ITEM TWO OR 74.

MR. TINDALL PLEASE, SIR.

OKAY. WE HAD QUITE A FEW EMAILS TOO ON OURS.

AND THIS IS APPLICATION Z TWO 2023 FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPLICATION OF CHRIS BLACKWELL.

THIS IS 4.07 ACRES.

WE KIND OF JOKED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT THIS WAS THE MONTH OF THE RE APPLICATIONS.

I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE TODAY, INCLUDING THIS ONE IN ANOTHER FORM OR FASHION WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO.

CURRENTLY THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED R THREE AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO GO TO OUR SIX.

A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO THIS PROPERTY REQUESTED TO GO TO R FOUR AND WAS DENIED AND NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH R SIX.

IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE R SIX, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, THERE IS R SIX DOTTED THROUGHOUT THIS AREA.

PROPERTY FRONTS MARTIN STREET, APPROXIMATELY 4570 FEET SOUTH OF CROSLAND AVENUE.

THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER SIX.

IT'S THE SITE OF A FORMER RADIO STATION AND RADIO TOWER, AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THE ZONE CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL REDUCE THE DENSITY FROM 36 TO 28 UNITS.

WHAT HE MEANS BY THAT STATEMENT IS IF IT WERE DEVELOPED TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL UNDER ITS CURRENT R THREE WITH SEVERAL TRIPLEXES ON SITE, THEY COULD HAVE 12 OR UP TO 36 UNITS.

THEY'RE PROPOSING 20 8R6 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THE SITE INSTEAD.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY MEAN BY A REDUCTION IN DENSITY.

HERE'S THE PROPERTY THERE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.

MARTIN STREET, DOWN ON THE LEFT.

A LITTLE CLOSER.

THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

THIS IS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NEAR THE END OF MARTIN STREET WHERE THE PAVEMENT ENDS AND YOU'RE LOOKING BACK TOWARDS CROSSLAND AVENUE.

THE SITE IS ON YOUR RIGHT.

AND THEN A LITTLE FURTHER BACK.

CLARKSVILLE GAS AND WATER INDICATED A WATER UPGRADE WOULD BE REQUIRED.

STREET DEPARTMENT SAID SIDEWALKS WOULD BE REQUIRED AND WIDENED IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY TO MATCH THE ROADWAY TO THE NORTH 22 FEET OF PAVEMENT.

FIRE DEPARTMENT MENTIONED THAT MARTIN STREET LACKS A COMPLIANT TURNAROUND AND THEY'LL LOOK TO ADDRESS THIS AT THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE.

THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WE SAW SHOWS A SMALL CUL DE SAC COMING OFF OF THIS, WHICH COULD BE THE FUTURE TURNAROUND ON MARTIN STREET AND HELP EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR THOSE LAST COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THERE.

AND THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH THAT.

HISTORICAL ESTIMATES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ALSO 28 UNITS.

SO I THINK WE BOTH GOT THAT RIGHT.

FOR ONCE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE ROAD WIDENING ALONG THE PROPERTY, FRONTAGE AND SIDEWALK SIDEWALKS HAVE BEEN STATED AS REQUIRED UPGRADES AT THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE BY THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. MR. TINDALL. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION ABOUT THIS? COUNCILPERSON SMITH YOU RECOGNIZED? THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

I KNOW YOU SAID THIS WAS VOTED DOWN FROM OUR FOUR, IS THAT CORRECT? FROM THE COUNCIL THE LAST TIME IT WAS AT CITY COUNCIL.

AND THE REASON WE VOTED DOWN BECAUSE THE LAYING OF THE STREET WAS TOO NARROW AND WE DISCUSSED THIS ABOUT THE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT JUST MENTIONED IT, THAT THE TURNAROUND IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE POLICE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS SO NARROW.

A BUS CANNOT GO DOWN THERE.

I USED TO DRIVE THAT ROUTE BACK IN THE EIGHTIES AND THAT STREET HASN'T WIDENED SINCE THE EIGHTY'S HASN'T BEEN WIDENED, I SHOULD SAY, SINCE THE EIGHTIES.

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SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT HOW MANY BEDROOMS. THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE CHILDREN THERE I'M SURE.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 28 UNITS.

THAT'S A BIT MUCH.

FOR THAT AREA. AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OVERCROWDED.

THE STREETS ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS. YOU CAN'T PUT SIDEWALKS DOWN.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHILDREN? GOT A QUESTION FOR MR. O? FOR ME, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

WHY YOU HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THESE REQUESTS.

THESE WILL BE, AGAIN, SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.

I THINK IN YOUR PACKETS YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

IF YOU LOOK TWO PAGES PAST THE ZONING MAP PROVIDED, CAN YOU SEE THAT? DO YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF A SUBDIVISION? IT'S ON YOUR OC.

YES. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT COULD BE BUILT RIGHT NOW WITH THE TRIPLEXES AND THEN A SIMILAR ARRANGEMENT OF OUR SIX HOUSES.

SO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO NOW LEGALLY.

THEY COULD TURN THAT INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW AND THEN INSTEAD THEY REALLY WANT TO GO FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

HOW MANY TRIPLEXES? ABOUT 12. YES.

WELL, THAT'S WAY LESS THAN 28 UNITS, BUT IT'S 12 TIMES THREE UNITS EACH.

12 TIMES THREE.

YEAH. SO 36 HAVE TO COME FOR APPROVAL.

THE SUBDIVISION WOULD, BUT A SUBDIVISION WOULD JUST HAVE TO MEET THE ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS TO GET APPROVED.

THE ZONING IS ALREADY THERE FOR OUR THREE.

SO. WELL, I STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AND I'LL THINK ABOUT IT, BUT.

RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT FOR IT, BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU RECOGNIZE.

I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT CAME BEFORE US ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.

AND THE PROBLEM WITH MARTIN STREET WAS WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT OF WAY FOR SIDEWALKS OR SOMETHING.

IF I REMEMBER THIS ONE CORRECTLY, MARTIN STREET IS FAIRLY NARROW, 18 TO 20 FEET, WHICH IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE, AS THE STREET DEPARTMENT WOULD SAY, OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE OUT THERE.

ALSO, IF YOU SEE ON THIS MAP, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE NOTCH OUT AT THE BOTTOM.

THAT IS AN UNIMPROVED RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THERE IS TECHNICALLY NO WAY TO TURN AROUND AT THE END OF MARTIN STREET.

OFTEN PEOPLE WILL USE SOMEONE'S DRIVEWAY, SOMEONE'S PARKING LOT TO DO THAT.

WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS INSTANCE IS YOU'D HAVE A TRUE SIDE STREET AS YOU SAW THOSE SUBDIVISIONS.

REGARDLESS OF WHICH ONE IS BUILT, YOU WOULD HAVE A SIDE ROAD THAT WOULD END IN A COMPLIANT TURNAROUND.

SO INSTEAD OF GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN A FIRE TRUCK OR DELIVERY TRUCK MAY COME DOWN THE SIDE ROAD, TURN AROUND AND GO BACK OUT.

RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD PROVIDE AT LEAST WE'LL GET THAT OUT OF IT.

THERE'S ALSO POTENTIALLY A WAY TO BUILD A MID-BLOCK CUL DE SAC WITH THIS PROPERTY.

WE'LL EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS WHEN IT COMES IN FOR SUBDIVISION.

THIS IS ALSO THE ONE WHERE MARTIN STREET IS THE ONE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M REMEMBERING THE CORRECT ONE.

COMING UP, MARK AND JESUS, THAT REAL STEEP HILL COMING ACROSS LAND.

RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION? COUNCILPERSON REDD, YOU RECOGNIZED? I'LL BE ABSTAINING BECAUSE I OWN THE PROPERTY THAT ADJOINS IT THERE.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY FOR ITEM THREE, ORDINANCE 75, MR. TINDALL. SURE. THIS APPLICATION IS CASE NUMBER Z THREE 2023 APPLICATION OF CONCORD VENTURES.

RICHARD GARRETT, AGENT 0.41 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED R THREE AND REQUESTING TO GO TO R FOUR.

IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE R FOUR.

IT'S A PROPERTY FRONTING B STREET, APPROXIMATELY 175 FEET EAST OF OAK STREET.

THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER SEVEN.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A MISTAKE.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS SEVEN.

I THINK THIS IS SIX.

YEAH. THIS IS A VACANT LOT, CLEARED PARCEL WITH STEEP TOPOGRAPHY.

AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS WE CURRENTLY OWN AND MANAGE THREE QUAD PLEX ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 506 B STREET, 191 AND 185 OAK STREET IN ARE SEEKING TO DEVELOP A SIX UNIT TOWNHOUSE.

TWO OF THE PARCELS TO THE WEST OF THIS ARE OWNED BY THE APPLICANT, AND WE'VE EXPLAINED THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET A DRIVEWAY WITH THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION, BUT THEY CAN COMBINE THE PROPERTIES AND WORK WITH EASEMENTS TO GET ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY.

AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS YOU'LL SEE LADY KENDALL CENTER'S RIGHT TO YOUR LEFT THERE OR SORRY TO YOUR RIGHT.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL ACCESS.

SO IT'S ALMOST STRAIGHT DOWN TO THOSE PROPERTIES.

BUT IF YOU LOOK A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN ON THE RIGHT, NOT THAT FIRST ROOF, BUT THE SECOND AND THIRD ROOF ON YOUR RIGHT ARE THE OTHER TWO PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.

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AND AGAIN, THERE'S ACROSS THE STREET COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.

AGAIN, STREET DEPARTMENT SAID VERY LIKELY A VARIANCE WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR DRIVEWAY ON B STREET AND I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS ANOTHER OPTION THERE.

HISTORICAL ESTIMATES WOULD BE SIX, AND THEY PLAN ON BUILDING SIX UNITS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

THE PROPOSED R FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL REQUEST IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ESTABLISHED ARE FOUR TO THE WEST.

THE REQUEST IS IN CHARACTER WITH THE ESTABLISHED USES IN THE AREA AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND NO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MR. TINDALL. BEFORE WE TAKE QUESTIONS, CHIEF MONTGOMERY, CAN YOU MAKE SURE IT GETS A LITTLE WARMER UP HERE? BECAUSE WE'RE KILLING HOGS UP HERE.

IT'S COLD. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN YOU SAY THAT HE HAS TO COMBINE THE PROPERTY? DOES HE HAVE TO DO IT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS LEGALLY.

MORE ABOUT THE PLOTTING AND THE WAY THIS PROPERTY, IF IT REMAINS STANDALONE, IT'S ONLY ACCESS IS B STREET, BUT THEY CAN COMBINE ALL THE THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THEY OWN INTO ONE LARGER PROPERTY, STILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF UNITS, AND THEN GAIN ITS ACCESS OFF OF OAK STREET.

AND DOES HE HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR DEPARTMENT? WHO WHO DOES THAT? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH, A COMBINATION PLOT IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL THAT, AND THAT'S A STAFF LEVEL PLAT THAT JUST TAKES A COUPLE OF DAYS.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION? SEEING THEM? WE'RE READY FOR ITEM FOUR, ORDINANCE 76.

MR. TINDALL, PLEASE, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR 2023 APPLICATION OF RICK RITA HOMES, 2.31 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED R ONE AND REQUESTING TO GO TO C TWO.

IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE C TWO AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF IDLEWILD STREET.

THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER FOUR.

IT'S A GRADUAL SLOPING LOT, VACANT AND CLEARED, AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO MATCH THE SURROUNDING ZONING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS APPLICATION WAS ATTEMPTED BACK IN 2018 TO GO TO R FOR THE C TWO PORTION ON THE HIGHWAY.

FRONTAGE WAS ALREADY THERE.

THAT'S THERE IN LIGHT BLUE.

AND THERE ARE JUST THEY ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH SOME TOWNHOUSES AND THEY WISH TO ZONE THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.

C TWO TO MATCH THAT AND FINISH OUT THE PROJECT.

THIS IS LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY FOR CAMPBELL WOULD BE AT YOUR BACK.

AND THIS IS IDLEWILD STREET, LOOKING INTO THE PROPERTY ON THE LEFT.

THERE'S OUR SIGN ON IDLEWILD AGAIN.

JUST A CLEARED PROPERTY FOR NOW.

UH, ONE OF THE HOMES ON IDLEWILD HAS TWO HOMES THAT FRONT IT, AND A THIRD TOUCHES IT.

HERE'S THE END OF IDLE WILD LOOKING BACK TO BELIEVE IT'S SEMINOLE NEAR FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD.

AND THE PROPERTY, AGAIN, IS THE ENTIRE RIGHT SIDE.

THERE. THIS WOULD REQUIRE WATER AND SEWER EXTENSIONS, AND THERE WERE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

HISTORICAL ESTIMATES WOULD BE 70 SORRY, 27 MORE LOTS OR UNITS IN THIS CASE TOWNHOUSE UNITS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

THE PROPOSED C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ESTABLISHED C TWO TO THE SOUTHWEST AND NOT OUT OF CHARACTER.

WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.

ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.

PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MR. TINDALL. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS YOU RECOGNIZED.

SO HE'S CHANGED IT TO C TWO, BUT HE REALLY PLANS TO BUILD APARTMENTS OR TOWNHOUSES? I BELIEVE SO. NOT NOT A MIXED USE, IS THAT CORRECT? IT WOULD PERMIT MIXED USE, BUT THEY'RE BUILDING A TOWNHOUSES ON THE FRONT END AND I'D ASSUME TOWNHOUSES ON THE BACK.

BUT HE'S NOT RESTRICTED TO TOWNHOUSES.

HE COULD PUT AN APARTMENT.

SURE. YES. YEAH.

SO 16 UNITS AN ACRE, 16 YEARS.

SO IT COULD BE EVEN MORE DENSE THAN THAT OC.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON MCLAUGHLIN, YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR. TYNDALL, I WAS HERE WHEN THE R FOUR WAS UP BEFORE, AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THE WIDTH OF IDLEWILD.

AND THERE'S A BIG DROP OFF AS YOU APPROACH THE HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IDLEWILD WAS WHAT WILL BE THE ACCESS IS THE EXISTING ACCESS FROM WHERE THE TOWNHOMES ARE BUILDING NOW GOING TO BE THE ACCESS TO THE BACK PART OF THIS PROPERTY, OR WILL THERE BE ACCESS BACK TOWARDS THE CUL DE SAC WHERE THAT ONE HOUSE IS? THE PRIMARY ACCESS WOULD BE OFF FORT CAMPBELL BOULEVARD, WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED.

A SECONDARY ACCESS OR MAYBE EMERGENCY ACCESS WOULD BE OFF THE BACK OF IDLEWILD STREET.

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MR. COWAN, SHAKE YOUR HEAD, YES OR NOT.

NOD YES OR SHAKE NO.

YES. IT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

AWESOME. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL PERSONNEL. AND YOU RECOGNIZED SO YOU HAD TO.

27 MORE.

HOW MANY ARE ONES WOULD IT BE RIGHT NOW? 2.3 ACRES WITH THAT FRONT EDGE AGAIN OFF THE BACK OF MY HAND, SIX OR SEVEN, SIX OR SEVEN.

AND THEN SO IT'S NOT 27 MORE.

IT'S JUST 21, RIGHT.

IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF IT IN THAT TERM.

OKAY. NO, YOU JUST SAID 27 MORE.

I WAS LIKE, HOLD ON, WHAT IS 27 ADDITIONAL TOWNHOUSES COULD SUPPORT? OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY FOR ITEM FIVE.

ORDINANCE 77.

MR. TYNDALL. OKAY.

THIS IS APPLICATION Z FIVE 2023 APPLICATION AT JONATHAN BLICK.

THIS IS 0.21 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED R TWO AND REQUESTING TO GO TO C TWO.

IT IS AN EXTENSION OF C TWO.

THE PARCEL FRONTS THE EAST FRONTAGE OF LIBERTY PARKWAY, APPROXIMATELY 130 FEET SOUTH OF LIBERTY PARKWAY AND DELMAR DRIVE INTERSECTION.

THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER SIX.

IT'S A SMALL, IRREGULAR SHAPED PARCEL WITH MILD SLOPE, AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO MATCH THE ADJOINING PROPERTY AND TO BUILD A TRUE C TWO BUSINESS WITH MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL ABOVE.

AND THAT WAS ALSO STATED IN PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

HE WANTS TO BUILD A OFFICE OR RETAIL ON THE LOWER FLOOR AND APARTMENT OR POSSIBLY A LIVE WORK UNIT ON THE SAME SITE.

AGAIN, THIS IS A REZONING YOU SAW SIMILARLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THERE WAS ANOTHER TWO PARCELS ADDED FOR THE ENTIRE CORNER OF DELMAR DRIVE.

THEY ARE JUST ASKING TO REQUEST THIS ONE PARCEL RIGHT NOW.

IT'S BEHIND THE OLD RIGHT AIDS THERE ON LIBERTY PARKWAY.

IT DOES HAVE A DRIVEWAY OPENING.

THERE IT IS ACROSS FROM THE KROGER GAS STATION.

AND LOOKING BACK FROM DEL MAR DRIVE BACK TO THE PROPERTY.

NO COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

HISTORICAL ESTIMATES WOULD BE A MAX OF THREE UNITS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN.

THE CE TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ESTABLISHED C TWO DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.

C TWO PERMITS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GENERAL GOODS AND SERVICES IN ADDITION TO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL.

AND SORRY, JUST LOST MY PAGE.

AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.

PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MR. TYNDALL. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. IS THIS THE ONE BEHIND THE PREVIOUS RITE-AID? IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE WE SAW THAT ONE.

YES. IS THAT DO YOU KNOW IF THAT SUBDIVISION DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THAT SUBDIVISION BACK THERE? NO, BUT WE CAN FIND OUT.

I GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT A BIRCHWOOD, AND IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT THAT IS AND YOU CAN TELL ME AT SOME POINT LATER TONIGHT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, BECAUSE I COULD NOT FIND IT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S NUMBER SEVEN ON OUR AGENDA.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? COUNCILPERSON SMITH, YOU RECOGNIZE HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION WITHIN OPPOSITIONS FROM ANY OF THE CITIZENS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING? NOT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS TIME, NO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW READY FOR ITEM SIX, ORDINANCE 78.

MR. TINDALL, THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION.

PLANNING COMMISSION. CASE Z SIX.

2020. SORRY, WE DEFERRED Z SIX.

Z SEVEN. THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF SI WILSON AND DAVID VERBEEK IS THE AGENT.

THIS IS SIX ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED R ONE AND REQUESTING TO GO TO C FIVE AND IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE C FIVE IN THE AREA.

IT'S A LARGE TRACT OF LAND AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF P RIDGE ROAD AND SANDBAR DRIVE INTERSECTIONS.

THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL WARD NUMBER NINE.

IT'S A CLEAR VACANT TRACT OF LAND AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO CHANGE FOR A PROPOSED CAR WASH, RESTAURANT, CHILD CARE FACILITY AND OTHER BUSINESSES SUITED FOR THE AREA.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE C-5 IN THE AREA.

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THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE PROPERTY BACK TO 101ST.

THE PROPERTY IS ON THE LEFT.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT SANDBAR DRIVE.

THE PUBLIX FACILITY IS ON YOUR RIGHT.

HERE'S SANDBAR DRIVE.

SO THE PROPERTY STARTS PRETTY MUCH WHERE THAT CONE IS AND GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE NEXT COMMERCIAL SITE YOU SEE UP THERE WITH THE BUILDING ON IT.

HERE'S THE EXISTING HOMES ON SANDBAR.

THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY AT THE BACK SIDE OF PUBLIX, AND THE STREET DEPARTMENT ASKED THAT ANY FUTURE DRIVEWAY LINE UP WITH THIS ON THIS SITE.

AND THIS IS FURTHER BACK ON THE PUBLIC SITE LOOKING TOWARDS THE SITE AND THE SUBDIVISION THERE.

A FEW COMMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.

THE GAS AND WATER DEPARTMENT SAID CHECK THE WATER FLOWS IN THE AREA.

THERE WAS A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT REQUIRED AND IT MUST ALSO FOLLOW THE ACCESS ORDINANCE.

FOR ACCESS. THEY WILL HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY ALLOWED FROM PINE RIDGE ROAD AND ONE FROM SAM BAR DRIVE OR ROAD.

NO OTHER COMMENTS ARE CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

THE PROPOSED C FIVE REQUEST IS AN EXTENSION OF THE ESTABLISHED C FIVE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.

THIS REQUEST IS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SR 374 AND PEA RIDGE ROAD INTERSECTION.

A TYPE C LANDSCAPE BUFFER WILL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND THE C FIVE ZONING DISTRICT AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE.

NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON RENTALS YOU RECOGNIZED.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I'LL TAKE A NOTE OUT OF WHAT I SAW HAPPEN AT THE AT THE MEETING AT RBC MEETING.

SO YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE OF THE THE DRIVEWAY COMING FROM PUBLIX.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.

I MEAN, THIS IS A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE GOING TO ALIGN IT.

HOW HOW DO WE ASK THAT PUBLIC? GO BACK AND PUT IN A NICE SIDEWALK AND THAT SIDEWALK AND A CROSSWALK.

AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD LINE BACK UP WITH THAT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THEN THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN WALK TO PUBLIC EASILY.

LET ME GO BACK. HOW DO WE ASK? HOW DO WE HOW DO WE ASK THAT? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I DO.

THE DRIVEWAY THAT COMES OUT OF PUBLIC IS ACTUALLY NOT ON PUBLIC'S PROPERTY.

IT'S JUST AN EASEMENT TO GET OUT THROUGH OTHER PROPERTIES, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THERE.

SO IT WAS BUILT AS A DRIVEWAY.

THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

THEY JUST HAD THE PERMISSION TO BUILD THE DRIVEWAY OUT OF THERE.

WHEN THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED, AGAIN, I'LL DEFER TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT MOSTLY.

BUT I BELIEVE THEY SAID, AND YOU'LL SEE IF CHRIS IS NODDING BEHIND ME.

WIDENING OF RIDGE ROAD UP TO AN ADEQUATE WIDTH IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE REQUIRED.

I THINK WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT SIDEWALKS AT SUBDIVISION OF THIS PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE.

AS FAR AS GETTING SOMETHING ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, WE HAD BEEN TALKING TO A DEVELOPER ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS AND WE WERE GOING TO GET SIDEWALKS THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY TO THE BACK OF PUBLIC. AT THAT TIME, BUT IT WAS NOT THROUGH TO WHERE THAT WAS BECAUSE AT THE TIME THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK CONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THAT DRIVEWAY AT PUBLIC.

SO BAD TIMING.

AND I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO CORRECT SOME OF THAT WITH THIS REZONING AND POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT, AS LONG AS WE ASK FOR IT UP FRONT.

RIGHT. CAN YOU TIE IT TO THE ZONING? NO. WE CAN STRONGLY SUGGEST IT NOW AND WORK ON IT WHEN IT COMES IN FOR.

SO. SO I WOULD LIKE FROM THE FLOOR TO SUGGEST AND I'LL PROBABLY DO IT NEXT WEEK TOO, THAT WE.

CONSIDER A CROSSWALK THERE AND A SIDEWALK AROUND THIS AND THEN GO BACK AND WHOEVER BUILT THE ROAD CONSIDER A WIDE SIDEWALK UP TO PUBLIC AND MAYBE PUBLIC.

SO PITCH IN OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, THAT JUST LETS THE WHOLE AREA WALK INTO THAT.

AND AS THOSE TWO LARGER PARCELS, THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED DEVELOPMENT PLANS YET ACROSS P RIDGE ROAD.

AND AS THEY COME IN, THOSE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO GET THOSE SMALL EXEMPTIONS.

SO I'M ASKING OUT LOUD FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MCLAUGHLIN YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE STREET DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOT UP TO DATE ON WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSION HAS GONE ON WITH DODD ABOUT A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION HERE.

I KNOW THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO AN ALREADY REALLY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.

HAVE THERE BEEN ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH DOD ABOUT STIGMATIZING THIS? A PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT, I THINK ACROSS THE STREET HAD A.

IT WAS PART OF THE WALKER FARM SUBDIVISION OR WALKER FARMS.

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PART OF THE WALKER FARMS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHERE THE PUBLIC SITE IS.

THEY HAD LOOKED AT FURTHER DEVELOPMENT UP THERE CLOSE TO PEA RIDGE, AND THEY DID A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AS A PART OF THAT SITE PLAN AND DETERMINED THAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULD BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE REVIEWED IT AND AGREED WITH THEIR FINDINGS.

AND WE SPOKE WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM TENNESSEE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ALLOWING FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION.

BUT AT THIS TIME, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY IDENTIFIED FUNDING FOR THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TALKED TO THAT DEVELOPER THAT THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE FUNDING FROM THAT IN ORDER TO GET THAT BUILD.

YOU SPOKE WITH YOU HAD A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF WHERE THIS ZONING IS.

YES. DOES THE DEVELOPER OF THIS ZONING KNOW THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN SUGGESTED THAT THERE BE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION THERE? THEY'RE AWARE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND THE AND THE NEED FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAS MENTIONED, THAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD, CORRECT? I'M SORRY. THE DRIVEWAY TO THE PUBLIC AS A PRIVATE ROAD.

THAT'S CORRECT. IS PRIVATE DRIVE LOWE'S DRIVE? CORRECT. ARE THERE ANY MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT SO WE DON'T END UP IN A SITUATION LIKE WE HAVE WITH OTHER PUBLIC OR PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE USED BY THE PUBLIC, NOT FROM THE STREET DEPARTMENT? AND YOU MIGHT TALK WITH THE BUILDING CODES AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR THE DRIVEWAYS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

GREAT REPORT. THANK YOU, MR. COWAN. HANG ON A MINUTE. I THINK COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. TINDALL OR MR. COWAN? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. IF I MAY JUST TAG ON TO WHAT MR. COWAN SAID. MS..

MCLAUGHLIN THE THAT'S NOT A ROADWAY AS MAYBE LOWE'S DRIVES VIEWED AS A ROADWAY.

THIS IS REALLY JUST A DRIVEWAY.

IT DOESN'T CONNECT THROUGH TO TRENTON ROAD REALLY SQUARE.

YOU HAVE TO KIND OF ZIGZAG THROUGH IT.

SO WE'VE TREATED IT AS A DRIVEWAY, NOT AN EASEMENT OR A ROAD.

SO LITTLE SAME, BUT DIFFERENT.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER.

I CAN WAIT UNTIL AFTER THEIR CONVERSATIONS.

COUNCILPERSON MCLAUGHLIN I THINK ORIGINALLY WHEN THE OTHER DRIVEWAY WENT IN, IT WASN'T DEVELOPED OUT AND SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS FOR ONE OR TWO BUSINESS USES.

BUT AS OVER TIME IT HAS DEVELOPED ALL THE WAY OUT AND EVERYBODY USES THAT ROAD AND THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL HERE FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON THE FRONT END BEFORE WE END UP IN A SIMILAR SITUATION, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, ASSUME THE CITY OWNS IT BECAUSE IT'S HEAVILY TRAVELED. AND TWO THINGS THAT KIND OF DIFFERENTIATE THIS.

A IT'S NOT A NAMED ROAD.

IT WON'T HAVE A NAME, WON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS.

AND TWO, IT'S NOT UNDER EASEMENT, IT'S LITERALLY JUST A DRIVEWAY.

SO NO ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES CAN BE SUBDIVIDED OFF OF IT.

THAT'S WHY EACH PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGE ON ANOTHER ROAD SURROUNDING IT.

SO IT JUST ALLOWS ALL THOSE PROPERTIES TO USE IT TO GAIN INTERNAL ACCESS, BUT NOT MAYBE THROUGH ACCESS AS YOU MIGHT THINK.

SO THANK YOU.

SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT. OKAY, THANK YOU.

IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.

PEOPLE ASSUME THE CITY OWNS IT.

COUNCIL PERSON BUTLER.

TRUE FACTS. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU KNEW THE.

I'M SURE YOU ALREADY SAID IT.

I JUST DIDN'T HEAR IT. THE HISTORICAL ESTIMATES OR THE PROJECTED ESTIMATES FOR IT.

COMMERCIAL IS HARD TO DETERMINE.

SO WITH C FIVE, YOU'VE GOT TO ASSUME IT'S GOT THE GAMUT OF USES FROM RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE TO AUTO LOTS AND AUTO BODY.

DID THEY TELL US WHAT THEY WANT TO DO THERE? YEAH, IN THEIR STATEMENT OF USE.

THEY SAID POTENTIAL PROPOSED CAR WASH, RESTAURANT, CHILD CARE FACILITIES AND OTHER BUSINESSES SUITED FOR THE AREA.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION? WE'RE READY FOR ITEM SEVEN OR 79, MR. TINDALL, PLEASE, SIR. THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION CASE THE EIGHT 2023.

APPLICATION OF PROGRESS PROPERTIES.

THIS IS 11.62 ACRES.

PROPERTIES ZONED MOSTLY ARE ONE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF C FIVE AND THE REQUESTING TO GO TO R2A IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF OUR TO A IT'S ATTRACTIVE LAND LOCATED AT THE NORTHERN TERMINI OF SCOTT DRIVE AND BIRCH ROAD.

COUNCIL WARD NUMBER ONE.

IT'S A WOULD ATTRACT WITH A SINKHOLE ON THE PROPERTY AND THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO PROVIDE A SINGLE FAMILY INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS LOOKING FROM SCOTT DRIVE UP TOWARDS THE PROPERTY.

LITTLE KNOWN FACT TO US.

THERE'S A NICE LITTLE POCKET PARK RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE, BUT GREAT TO SEE.

AND THEN ANOTHER ANGLE FROM ONE OF THE SIDE ROADS BACK TOWARDS THE PROPERTY.

AND FROM THE OTHER STREET, THAT WOULD BE A BIRCH ROAD LOOKING BACK UP TOWARDS THE PROPERTY.

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THE STREET DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED THAT THEY PROVIDE 100 YEAR FLOOD ELEVATION AT CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.

THAT'S IN RELATION TO THE SINKHOLE ON THE PROPERTY AND NO OTHER COMMENTS ARE CONCERNS WERE RECEIVED FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

THE PROPOSED PROPOSED ARE TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, PROVIDES INFILL OPPORTUNITY AND SMALL, UNDEVELOPED PARCELS OF LAND WITH ADEQUATE CONNECTIVITY TO ESTABLISH SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IT IS NEAR CITY PARK.

THE REQUEST IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY USES.

ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL SERVE THE SITE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. WE'RE NOW READY FOR ITEM EIGHT.

ORDINANCE 55.

MR. TINDALL. ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.

THIS WAS DEFERRED ONE MONTH AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MONTH.

FROM SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE ON THE FLOOR AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DEFERRED TO THE MONTH FOR A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION.

THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BACK TO YOU WITH TWO ADDITIONS.

TWO CHANGES. ONE WAS THE RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE AGG FROM THE CLUSTER ORDINANCE.

SO NOW YOU'RE REMOVING AGG R2A AND E ONE FROM THE CLUSTER PROVISIONS.

YOU SHOULD HAVE A RED LINE COPY TO LOOK AT OF THAT SECTION.

WE ARE ALSO.

TOOK THE ADVICE FROM THE FLOOR ABOUT FLAG LOTS.

WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW TWO PER CLUSTER ONE FOR UP TO 50 LOTS AND THEN YOU'LL GET YOUR SECOND IF YOU DO ABOVE 50 LOTS.

WHAT WE KIND OF HEARD FROM THE FLOOR WAS IF YOU DID A SMALL CLUSTER, MAYBE TWO WASN'T APPROPRIATE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A LARGER ONE.

SO WE KIND OF LOOKED HISTORICALLY AND SAID 50 LOTS IS A NICE BREAKING POINT.

SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY WE HEARD YOU AND WE ADJUSTED THAT ACCORDINGLY.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSON REYNOLDS, YOU RECOGNIZED.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE COMPROMISE AND I APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING ORDINANCE 55? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU, MR. TINDALL. THANK YOU.

OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE THAT COUNCIL PERSON.

REYNOLDS, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

NOT NOT SPECIFIC, BUT IF YOU DO GET LETTERS FROM THE COMMUNITY AT RPC, ARE THEY IN? I DIDN'T SEE ANY IN OUR PACKET.

I DON'T REMEMBER IF THEY COME ACROSS OR NOT.

DO WE GET TO SEE THE LETTERS THAT YOU RECEIVE? YOU SHOULD OPPOSITION OR NOT? YES. IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PACKETS UNDER EACH ONE, IF WE RECEIVE THE LETTER PRIOR TO THE NIGHT BEFORE OUR MEETING, WE WILL PUT IT IN OUR COMMISSIONERS PACKETS AND THEN YOU GET TO SEE THE EXACT SAME PACKET THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DO.

SO IF YOU CLICK ON THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION, SCROLL THROUGH OUR STAFF REPORTS.

ANYTHING BELOW THAT IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SUPPLIED WHICH WILL INCLUDE ANY EMAILS WE RECEIVE FROM THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. TYNDALL.

GOOD REPORT. CONSENT AGENDA, MADAM CLERK.

[4) CONSENT AGENDA]

HOWEVER, A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MAY REQUEST THAT AN ITEM BE REMOVED FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION UNDER THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE REPORT.

ORDINANCE 5020 2223 SECOND READING POSTPONED ON JANUARY 5TH.

AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

APPLICATION OF UNIVERSAL EXPORTS FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY FRONTING THE WESTERN TERMINUS OF PRUITT LANE, SOUTH OF PRUITT LANE AND WEST OF WHITFIELD ROAD FROM AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO R FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDINANCE 5720 2223 SECOND READING.

AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR THROUGH THE CITY, ATTORNEY OR HIS DESIGNEE TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE OF CERTAIN PROPERTY TO BE USED AS A FIRE STATION. ORDINANCE 5820 2223 SECOND READING AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR THROUGH THE CITY, ATTORNEY OR HIS DESIGNEE TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS AND TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR EXPANSION OF DIXON PARK.

OR SHOULD NEGOTIATIONS FAIL TO PRESERVE CONDEMNATION THROUGH THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE, FOR EXPANSION AND DEVELOPMENT OF DICKSON PARK? AUDIENCE 5920 2223 SECOND READING.

AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

APPLICATION OF RICE POWERS FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF LOUISIANA AVENUE AND LORA DRIVE FROM OUR TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDINANCE 6020 2223 SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

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ORDINANCE 6120 2223 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

APPLICATION OF TO HOMEBUILDERS FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY FRONTING ON THE WEST FRONTAGE OF CAVE STREET, NEAR THE NORTHERN TERMINUS OF CAVE STREET FROM OUR THREE THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO AH FOR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDNANCE 62 2022, 23, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.

APPLICATION OF ANTHONY WAINWRIGHT DOING BUSINESS AS A.W.

INVESTMENTS FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO PARCELS FRONTING ON THE NORTH FRONTAGE OF DUNCAN STREET.

135 PLUS OR MINUS FEET WEST OF THE EASTERN TERMINUS OF DUNCAN STREET.

FROM OUR FOUR MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDINANCE 6420 2223, SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ELDER STREET AND EAST UNION STREET.

FROM OUR THREE THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

ORDINANCE 6520 2223 SECOND READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS OR IN ITS ONE 4620 2122.

TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND AND GENERAL FUND.

AMENDING THE PANDEMIC RELIEF FUND AND THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND.

RESOLUTION 4520 2223.

A RESOLUTION APPROVING APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH FOUNDATION, MUSEUM BOARD, SENIOR CITIZENS BOARD AND TRIBE BOARD RESOLUTION 4720 2223 A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE FOR SALE OF WINE AT THE QUICK QUICK TRIP MARKET.

1265 ROSS VIEW ROAD IN CLARKSVILLE AND THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES FROM JANUARY FIVE, 2023.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. ANYBODY WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. WE'RE NOW READY FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT.

[5) FINANCE COMMITTEE]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ORDINANCE 6720 2223 FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNEE TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS AND TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE AND ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS AND OR PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

FOR THE HAZELWOOD SCHOOL SIDEWALK PROJECT, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? SEEING NONE. YOU RECOGNIZE ORDINANCE 6820 2223 FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNATE TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS AND TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE AND ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS AND OR PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

FOR THE MERRIWEATHER CONNECTION SCHOOL SIDEWALK PROJECT FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? SEEING NONE. YOU RECOGNIZED ORDINANCE 6920 2223.

FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNEE TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS AND TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE AND ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS AND OR PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

FOR THE ROSEVILLE ELEMENTARY CONNECTION SCHOOL, SIDEWALK PROJECT FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL.

ANY COMMENT OR QUESTIONING REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? YOU RECOGNIZE ORDINANCE 7020 2223 FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNEE TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS AND TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE AND ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS AND OR PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

FOR THE NORTHEAST CONNECTION SCHOOL, SIDEWALK PROJECT FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL.

ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? YOU RECOGNIZE ORDINANCE 7120 2223 FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR OR HIS DESIGNEE TO CONDUCT NEGOTIATIONS AND TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE AND ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS AND OR PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

FOR THE PETERS MIDDLE SCHOOL SIDEWALK PROJECT FINANCE COMMITTEE VOTED IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS.

YOU HAD A COMMENT OR QUESTION? YES. KIND OF GROUPING THEM ALL TOGETHER.

I'D FIRST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS A LOT OF WORK AND OUR COMMUNITY REALLY APPRECIATES IT MOVING FORWARD.

IT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

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YOU KNOW, YOU PUT A BUFFER BETWEEN THAT.

IT'S SAFETY. YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A TREE.

I UNDERSTAND IT COSTS MORE MONEY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO GIVE UP MORE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

AND THIS MAY NOT ALWAYS BE FEASIBLE, BUT WHERE IT IS FEASIBLE, I THINK IT LOOKS BETTER.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITIZENS WILL APPRECIATE IT MORE.

ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? SEEING NONE. CHAIRPERSON STREETMAN.

SORRY. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MAYOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE READY FOR GAS AND WATER COMMITTEE REPORT.

CHAIRPERSON HOLLOMAN IS NOT HERE, BUT I'VE ASKED IN HIS ABSENCE THAT MARK RIGGINS, GENERAL MANAGER OF GAS AND WATER, TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE US A

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MR.. MR.. RIGGINS ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL IF I MAY HAVE GOT TWO BRIEF THINGS BEFORE THAT.

FIRST, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED THEM TONIGHT, YOU HAVE NOTICED THERE'S A SHIRT ON THE BACK OF YOUR CHAIRS.

ONLY BRING THAT UP TO MENTION.

IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITH SIZING, JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL WILL ACCOMMODATE AS BEST WE CAN.

WE JUST HAD CUPCAKES, SO THERE MAY BE.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT.

THE SECOND THING IS YOU WILL FIND A TRAINING STATEMENT AT YOUR AT YOUR SEAT AS WELL.

IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT, YOU'LL KNOW THAT FOR THE UTILITY TRAINING, WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE TO YOU COMPLETING THAT IN A TIMELY FASHION.

FOR THOSE SHEETS.

YOU'LL SEE THERE JUST A FEW AREAS THAT YOU NEED TO FILL OUT.

ONE IS THE MOST RECENT ELECTION DATE OF YOURS AND THEN SIMPLY CIRCLING YES OR NO ON WHETHER IT IS YOUR FIRST TERM.

AND THEN LASTLY AT THE BOTTOM, JUST SIGN DATE AND IF YOU WILL RETURN THAT TO ME, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THAT IS THE FINAL THING THAT WE NEED TO TURN IN TO THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO BE COMPLIANT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I MOVE FURTHER? COUNCIL PERSON, SHE CAME IN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT OR JUST LATER ON? OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL STREETMAN OKAY.

LATER ON. PROCEED.

MR. REAGAN ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN LASTLY, OF COURSE, THE MAIN REASON I CAME UP AND WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT IS THE IS THE EVENT FROM LAST MONDAY, THE THE WATER LEAK.

JUST BASICALLY WANT TO GIVE A PLAY BY PLAY OF WHAT HAPPENED, WHERE WE WERE, WHAT HAPPENED, AND THEN FOLLOWING UP TO THAT.

SO AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, AT APPROXIMATELY 3 A.M.

ON THE MORNING OF JANUARY 26TH, OUR WATER PLAN OPERATOR SAW THAT OUR OUTGOING FLOW INCREASED FROM 21 MILLION, A RATE OF 21 MILLION GALLONS A DAY TO 31 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, ALMOST INSTANTANEOUSLY, JUST IN AN INSTANT.

ALONG WITH THAT, THE PRESSURE DROPPED FROM 116 PSI TO 60 PSI, WHICH INDICATES A SUBSTANTIAL LEAK, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WITH THAT MUCH FLOW.

BUT PRESSURE DROPPING, THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

TO TO ASCERTAIN FROM THAT WITHIN 20 MINUTES OF LOCATION, A LEAK WAS FOUND BEING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BYPASS BETWEEN VISTA LANE AND HAWES CROW DRIVE.

WITHIN 40 MINUTES OF INITIAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE LEAK, A WATER CONSTRUCTION CREW CHIEF WAS ON SITE.

THE WATER CONSTRUCTION CREW CHIEF WAS ON SITE IN MAKING CALLS FOR PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT TO BE MOBILIZED WHILE AWAITING ON THE TENNESSEE ONE CALL WINDOW FOR EMERGENCY LOCATES.

THE VALVES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM WERE THEN THROTTLED TO MINIMIZE THE EFFECTS OF THE LEAK.

WHAT WERE LEFT OPEN TO CONTINUE ENOUGH TO CONTINUE POSITIVE PRESSURE, MEANING YOU DON'T WANT IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT WHERE YOU HAVE A LEAK UNDERGROUND THAT'S NOT BEEN EXPOSED YET, YOU WANT TO THROTTLE TO TO MINIMIZE THE OUTFLOW OF WATER, BUT YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT TO WHERE WATER IS COMING OUT.

THAT WAY YOU KEEP MUD AND DEBRIS FROM ENTER AND BACK INTO THE LINE AND CAUSING A FUTURE DISINFECTION PROBLEM.

WELL THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF DIGGING AND FINDING THE PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL LOCATION OF THE LEAK, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT ANOTHER TRACK CODE WAS REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE THE EXCAVATION NECESSARY TO REPAIR THE LEAK.

AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM THE PICTURES, THAT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT SEVERAL LAYERS OF FIELD HAD BEEN PLACED UPON TOP OF THAT WATER MAIN AFTER ITS CONSTRUCTION OF MAKING IT. INITIALLY, I HAD MADE THE STATEMENT IT WAS ABOUT 15 FOOT DEEP.

IN ACTUALITY, IT'S HARD TO TELL WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPEN HOLE AND YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.

BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY ROUGHLY 25 TO 30 FOOT FEET DEEP BEFORE WE STARTED EXCAVATING THERE, AT WHICH TIME WE WE ASKED THE STREET DEPARTMENT FOR ANOTHER TRACK.

OF COURSE, THEY ASSISTED AND BROUGHT THAT OUT TO US.

VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

THE EXCAVATION REVEALED A HOLE IN A 30 INCH DUCTILE IRON WATER MAIN, WHICH IS A MAIN TRANSMISSION LINE THAT LEAVES THE WATER PLANT AND FEEDS THE EASTERN EASTERNMOST PORTION OF OUR SERVICE AREA NORTH TO SOUTH, MEANING THE KIRKWOOD ROSS VIEW ROAD AREA SANGO, HIGHWAY 12, FROM BASICALLY THAT WHOLE SIDE OF TOWN IN THE

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THROUGHOUT THIS TIME, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS RAINING OFF AND ON THE ENTIRE TIME.

AND IT SOMETIME BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 1:00 AM TUESDAY MORNING, THE SIDES OF THE HOLE BEGAN TO COLLAPSE.

AT THAT TIME, OUR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS WERE EXITED FROM THE HOLE AND THE PROCESS BEGAN FOR ADDITIONAL 3 HOURS OF EXCAVATION WITH THE TWO TRACK HOSE AND A SMALL DOZER THAT WE HAD AGAIN TO ENSURE A SAFE WORK ENVIRONMENT BEFORE ENTERING BACK INTO THAT WORK ZONE.

AT APPROXIMATELY 2 A.M., IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE NEED A LARGER DOZER THAN OURS TO PUSH THE SPOILS AWAY FROM THE EXCAVATION AS THEY WERE BEING REMOVED FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

AT WHICH TIME A CONTRACTOR WAS CONTACTED ABOUT BRINGING ONE OUT TO THE SITE.

AROUND MIDDAY ON TUESDAY, THE CREWS WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE REPAIR WITH SOLID SLEEVES IN A SECTION OF NEW 30 INCH PIPE.

WE DID HAVE ALL PARTS ON HANDS AND THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT.

AT WHICH TIME AFTER THE REPAIR, WE BEGAN TO OPEN WATER VALVES AFTER WE COVERED THE PIPE AGAIN, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WITH A PIPE OF THAT SIZE AND WITH THAT MUCH PRESSURE, ONCE YOU START PUTTING WATER BACK ON IT, YOU MUST HAVE IT COVERED.

IF NOT, THAT PIPE CAN COME BACK APART AND WE WOULD BE BACK TO SQUARE ONE, PROBABLY WORSE OFF THAN BACK TO SQUARE ONE.

SO OPENING THOSE VILE AFTER RECOVERING THE PIPE AND OPENING THOSE VALVES, WE RELIEVED THE AIR FROM THE FROM THE LENGTHS OF PIPE THAT WAS SHUT OFF.

ONCE WE WERE CONFIDENT THAT ALL AIR WAS OUT OF THE LINES, WE FULLY OPENED THE VALVES AND BEGAN REFILLING THE SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE SECONDARY TANKS, WHICH WERE PREVIOUSLY VALVES OFF IN ORDER TO PREVENT COMPLETELY DRAINING THEM.

SO BASICALLY, ROUGHLY A THIRD TO HALF OF OUR WATER TANKS IN OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM WERE SHUT OFF BEFORE THEY COMPLETELY EMPTIED.

AND THAT IS TO KEEP US FROM HAVING TO RE DISINFECT THOSE TANKS AND BE DAYS OUT BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM BACK INTO SERVICE.

AT THAT POINT, WITH NO MORE WATER THAN WE WERE ABLE TO PUSH OUT, THEY WERE OF NO USE TO US AT THAT TIME ANYWAY.

WE REFILLED WHAT WE COULD THROUGHOUT TUESDAY NIGHT, LESSEN THE RESTRICTIONS, THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE WATER SYSTEM WEDNESDAY MORNING, AND COMPLETELY REMOVED ALL RESTRICTIONS APPROXIMATELY MIDDAY ON WEDNESDAY.

AFTERWARD, IT TOOK 2 TO 3 DAYS TO COMPLETELY REFILL THE SYSTEM TO OUR NORMAL LEVELS.

SO ON THIS LEAK HERE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS LEAK WAS NOT CAUSED BY AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE OR A SYSTEM OVERTAXING ISSUE.

IT WAS A.

A FREAK INCIDENT.

BASICALLY, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT IT WAS A PIPE DEFECT THAT FINALLY CAME APART.

THIS PIPE WAS ROUGHLY 25 YEARS OLD, AND WE DETERMINED THAT FROM THE WAY THAT THE PIPE COME APART, DUCTILE IRON PIPE, WHEN IT'S CREATED AND EXTRUDED, IT'S DONE IN A SPIRAL FASHION. AND THAT'S THE WAY YOU CAN SEE THE HOLE.

IT'S A HOLE THIS SIZE, BUT IT SPLIT THE PIPE INTO IN A SPIRAL FASHION, WHICH IS WHY WE BELIEVE IT WAS A PIPE DEFECT.

AS FAR AS THE WATER LOSS, I WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION IN OUR IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETING.

I HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

WE ROUGHLY LOST ABOUT 1.5 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER.

AND WHILE THAT THAT IS QUITE A BIT OF WATER, AS FAR AS REVENUE GOES, IT'S LESS THAN $6,700 OF REVENUE.

NOW, IF YOU FACTOR IN THE WATER LOSS FROM AT THE TIME WHEN WE HAD TO SCALE BACK THE PLANT AND WE CAN ONLY PUSH PUSH OUT WATER BASICALLY TO THE TO THE WESTERN SIDE TO GO BACK TO THE EAST.

WE WERE THEN, AS YOU HEARD ME SAY, WE'RE INITIALLY PUMPING 21 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WITH THAT PIPELINE DOWN.

WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO PUSH OUT 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY TO FEED THE ENTIRETY OF CLARKSVILLE IN OUR SERVICE SYSTEM.

SO IN DOING THAT, IF YOU TRY TO FIGURE UP THAT WATER LOSS, JUST USING THAT BACKING OUT 1.5 MILLION OUT OF 10 MILLION GALLONS DIFFERENCE AND USING THOSE FUNDS, YOU ALL SAID IT WAS PROBABLY A LOSS OF REVENUE AND WATER, LESS THAN 100,000, PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT, BUT LESS THAN THAT.

STILL WAITING TO SEE HOW MUCH.

AS FAR AS MANPOWER, LABOR, THINGS LIKE MATERIALS.

THE OTHER TRACK COMING IN, WHAT OUR DOZER, WHAT THAT WOULD COST US AND I'LL GET THAT NUMBER TO YOU AT A LATER TIME.

AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE INCIDENT.

OKAY. COUNCIL SPOKESPERSON SHEKINAH, HAVE YOU HAD YOUR MICROPHONE ACTIVATED? YOU WISH TO BE RECOGNIZED? OKAY. COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MR. RIGGINS, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, BUT THANK YOU TO YOUR YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR YOUR QUICK NOTE, QUICKLY NOTICING IT, QUICKLY REACTING TO IT AND LOCATING IT AND THEN WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO BE ABLE TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY I KNOW WITH THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE ASKED OF EVERYBODY TO PLEASE REDUCE THEIR WATER USAGE.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT JUST TO OUR CITY RESIDENTS, BUT OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO CUSTOMERS OF GAS AND WATER.

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THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU RECOGNIZED MR. REAGAN AND THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT MY KIDS WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE THEY WERE OFF FROM SCHOOL.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. AND TEACHERS COUNCIL PERSON MARKEY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PROACTIVE AND ALL THAT YOU DO HERE, ESPECIALLY FINDING THE LEAK SO QUICK.

I MEAN, WATER IS A LIFE SOURCE AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THIS COULD HAVE ENDED UP, IF NOT HAVE BEEN.

FOR YOUR SPEEDY REACTION HERE, I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION JUST TO KNOW A BIT BETTER, SINCE YOU SAID IT WAS A FREAK INCIDENT AND ALSO THAT THE PIPE WAS AROUND 25 YEARS OLD.

WHAT'S THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF THESE PIPES? ROUGHLY SO THAT.

DR. LAUREN PIPE WE THERE'S NO WAY OF WE HAVE NO WAY OF THINKING THAT THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

THOSE PIPES ARE 50 YEAR PLUS USE AT LEAST 50 YEARS HAVE 50 TO 80, ACTUALLY, I WOULD IMAGINE.

AWESOME. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

AND TO END THIS THING ON A GOOD NOTE, I GOT AN EMAIL.

IT'S A TESTAMENT TO OUR COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, BUT ALSO TO THE PROFESSIONALISM OF MR. MARK RIGGINS.

AND I WANT TO READ IT.

IT'S IT'S BRIEF, BUT I THINK IT DESERVES TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD.

I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE MARK RIGGINS FOR THE DEDICATION AND COMMUNICATION EXHIBITED DURING THE RECENT WATER MAIN OUTAGE AND REPAIR.

MY NAME IS JOHN SMITH AND I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF W B IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.

WE MANUFACTURE FIBERGLASS FOR TWO OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST ROOFING MANUFACTURERS.

WE'VE BEEN OPERATING CONTINUOUSLY IN CLARKSVILLE SINCE 2005.

WATER, AS WELL AS ALL UTILITIES, IS CRUCIAL TO THE SAFE AND EFFICIENT OPERATION OF OUR PLANT.

UNLIKE MANY MANUFACTURERS, WE CAN'T CURTAIL.

AS WE OPERATE A LARGE GLASS MELTING FURNACE, ANY DISRUPTION IN WATER OR ANY OTHER UTILITY COULD COST EASILY THE COMPANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGE AND LOST PRODUCTION DURING THE ENTIRE WATER.

MAIN OUTAGE AND REPAIR MARK WAS IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH MYSELF DESPITE ALL OF THE OTHER DEMANDS HE WAS EXPERIENCING.

HE SHOWED TRUE DEDICATION TO HIS CUSTOMER.

I HAVE DEALT IN THE PAST WITH OTHER UTILITIES IN THE AREA DURING SIMILAR SITUATIONS, AND QUITE FRANKLY, MOST DON'T SEEM TO BE TOO CONCERNED.

MARK WAS VERY CONCERNED AND HIS DEDICATION AND COMMUNICATION WAS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

SO MARK RIGGINS, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN OUR CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. YOU RECOGNIZED, IF I MAY, MAYA, I HAVE A FEW THINGS OF MY OWN.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D LIKE TO GIVE GLORY.

WURST DESERVED MOST.

I THANK GOD I.

I'LL JUST SAY THIS. THERE IS NO CALCULATION, NO DATA, NO INFORMATION WE HAVE.

WELL, BY ALL OF THAT, WE SHOULD HAVE RUN OUT OF WATER.

CLARKSVILLE SHOULD HAVE RUN OUT OF WATER.

AND ALL THE PIECES I'VE MENTIONED IN ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT I'M GOING TO THINK THERE'S NO WAY THAT COMB COMES TOGETHER WITHOUT GAS.

I'M SO VERY THANKFUL.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, MAY YOU REMEMBER I CALLED YOU AT ONE POINT AND TOLD YOU WE WILL RUN OUT OF WATER IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO GET IT BACK, BUT WE'LL DO IT AND WE'LL JUST KEEP AT IT UNTIL WE GET IT BACK.

BUT I JUST KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND TWO TIMES DURING THIS INCIDENT, I HAD A MEETING AT CHURCH AND BOTH TIMES I WENT TO THE ALTAR.

AND I THINK IT WORKED, SIR.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, GOD.

SECONDLY, TO OUR OWN GAS AND WATER PERSONNEL OR CONSTRUCTION CREWS WHO WORK THERE AROUND THE CLOCK.

THAT FIRST SHIFT THAT SHOWED UP ON SITE ANYWHERE, THOSE FOLKS, THAT GROUP BETWEEN 23 AND 25 HOURS, THEY WERE ON SITE THE ENTIRE TIME BEFORE WE RELIEVED THEM AND BROUGHT OTHER CREWS IN. AND THEY JUST KEPT ON GOING UNTIL WE GET THE WORK DONE.

OUR DISTRIBUTION DEPARTMENT WHO WHO MANIPULATED VALVES AND WORKED PUMPS TO MOVE WATER THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM TO KEEP AND KEEP US IN SERVICE AT ALL TIMES.

OUR WATER PLANT OPERATORS WHO KNOW THAT PLANT SO WELL AND USE THOSE PUMPS SO WELL TO PUSH THAT CURVE TO THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY WITHOUT OVERLOADING IT AND CAUSING A LEAK SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEY'RE JUST SUCH PROFESSIONALS IN ALL GROUPS OR PERSONNEL HANDLING THE PRESS RELEASES, AS YOU KNOW, VERY IMPORTANT TO TRY TO ASK THE PUBLIC TO CURTAIL USE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND THE MANAGEMENT TEAM WHO WAS ON SITE AT ALL TIMES JUST GUIDING THINGS, MAKING SURE THE EMPLOYEES HAVE WHAT THEY NEEDED AS TIME WENT ON, JUST MAKING THE CALLS WHEN THEY NEED TO BE CALLED. I WANT TO THANK OUR CUSTOMERS.

THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS FOR FOR ANSWERING THE CALL.

OUR INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS WHO WERE ABLE TO CURTAIL, USE AND HELP PREVENT THE TOTAL LOSS OF DISTRIBUTION AND SERVICE TO THE SYSTEM.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DETRIMENTAL IF WE WOULD HAVE RAN OUT OF WATER.

WE'RE TALKING WEEKS INSTEAD OF A DAY.

VARY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR CLOSING SCHOOLS TO ELIMINATE THOSE LARGE CONGREGATION WHO USE LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER, WHICH I KNOW IS NOT AN EASY TASK TO CLOSE SCHOOL.

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I WANT TO THANK BRAD PAVLIK WITH BOWER CONSTRUCTION AND JOHN DAVID JACKSON WITH JACKSON EXCAVATING FOR ANSWERING MY CALL AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING AND BRINGING ME A DOZER OUT THERE IN THE POURING RAIN WHEN I NEEDED IT.

I WANT TO THANK THE STREET DEPARTMENT FOR BRINGING THEIR TRACK AS WE NEEDED.

I WANT TO THANK JUDY CONSTRUCTION, WHO IS OUR CONTRACTOR ON THE ON OUR NORTH CLARKSVILLE WATER PLANT FOR ALLOWING US TO BORROW BORROW PARTS FOR OUR TRENCH BOX SO OUR MEN COULD SAFELY ENTER THE HOLE AND A LIGHT TREE SO WE COULD WORK ALL NIGHT LONG.

I WANT TO THANK TTE DECK FOUR FOR HELPING US THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT AND THE DAY WITH DISINFECTION PROCEDURES SO WE COULD GET THIS PIPE RUNNING UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I WANT TO THANK OUR LOCAL AND NATIONAL NEWS OUTLETS THAT WERE VERY GOOD TO US.

THEY REALLY HELPED US GETTING THE WORD OUT.

THEY REPORTED IT EXACTLY LIKE IT WAS.

DIDN'T TRY TO PAINT US IN ONE LIGHT OR ANOTHER.

AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE UTILITIES AND RELATED ENTITIES WHO REACHED OUT FROM OTHER UTILITIES, OTHER PIPE MANUFACTURERS, COMPANIES TO OFFER ASSISTANCE IN THIS CITY'S TIME OF NEED.

I'M JUST SO VERY THANKFUL.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS WHY I LOVE CLARKSVILLE.

IT TOOK THE WHOLE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREA TO PULL TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, SO WE DIDN'T RUN OUT OF WATER.

SO WHILE I LOVE MY JOB, I'M SO VERY THANKFUL.

SO THANK YOU. THANK EVERYONE.

THAT'S WHY WE LOVE YOU, MARK RIGGINS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM IS NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON SHEKINAH.

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WITH PROTOCOL, I'LL HAVE MY REPORT NEXT WEEK.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON ZACHARIAS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL HAVE A FULL REPORT NEXT WEEK.

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[9) PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]

TRANSPORTATION STREETS AND GARAGE COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON SMITH, YOU RECOGNIZE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A REPORT ON FEBRUARY THE SECOND, 2023.

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ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT.

WE'RE READY FOR NEW BUSINESS.

THAT'S THE EXACT DATE. THANK YOU.

[11) NEW BUSINESS]

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY FOR NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM ONE IS ORDINANCE 56, 2022, 23, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 FOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS TO REMOVE FUNDING FOR THE ROXY REGIONAL THEATER.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER EITHER SPONSOR YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WROTE MY I WROTE MY LITTLE STATEMENTS BECAUSE THIS.

AND SO I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY TONIGHT, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE AT IT NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE GONE OVER THIS AD NAUSEUM.

JUST TO CLARIFY, I'M SPONSORING THIS ORDINANCE FOR THREE REASONS.

ONE, OUT OF RESPECT FOR OUR NOW FORMER COLLEAGUE, THAT IS LEGISLATION NOT FALL BY THE WAYSIDE AFTER WE DEFERRED IT PAST HIS TENURE.

TWO TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE COMPLAINTS FROM MY OWN CONSTITUENCY, AS WELL AS ALL THE REASONS I PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED, NAMELY, MY REPETITIVE POINT THAT WE AND OUR SUPPORTED CHARITIES NEED TO OPERATE ABOVE REPROACH.

LASTLY, I BELIEVE THAT THIS ENTIRE INCIDENT IS PRECISELY WHY GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS.

I WILL VOTE YES ON THIS ITEM AND NEXT WEEK I WILL NOT ASK YOU FOR THAT VOTE BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE EVIDENCE, YOU'VE SEEN THE INVESTIGATION OUTCOMES, YOU'VE SEEN THE BEHAVIORS AND ACTIONS OF THOSE WHO WORK AT THIS ESTABLISHMENT, AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WHO SIT ON THE BOARD.

YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION HERE, AND I AND YOUR CONSTITUENCIES TRUST YOU TO DO SO.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON.

SHE CAME TO BE RECOGNIZED.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE UP FRONT ON THIS ORDINANCE HERE, THE LAST WHEREAS WHERE AS MEMBERS OF THE ROX BOARD OF DIRECTORS RESIGN IN PROTEST AS ITS OWN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CLEARED THE THEATER DIRECTOR, THE THEATER'S DIRECTOR OF ANY WRONGDOING.

THAT'S AN INCORRECT STATEMENT.

DIFFERENT ACTIONS WERE TAKEN ONCE IT WAS DETERMINED BY THAT INVESTIGATION BOARD THERE, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHEN THEY CONDUCTED THEIR INVESTIGATION OF VARIOUS THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, AND THEY PUT THOSE IN PLACE.

SO IT WAS NOT THAT HE WAS CLEARED OF ANYTHING BUT DIFFERENT ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN AS PART OF THAT.

AND IF WE COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MISS STACY TURNER TO THE FLOOR TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THAT.

OCH, MS..

TURNER, DID YOU WISH TO OR DID YOU WISH TO? IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND THEN YOU CAN HAND IT OFF OR DEFER.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

I WOULD DEFER MY STATEMENTS TO OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL, MISS TRACY PROVO, WHO'S HERE? MS.. KNIGHT. YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME.

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MY NAME IS TRACY KNIGHT.

I'M AN ATTORNEY HERE IN CLARKSVILLE.

AND. I WAS APPROACHED BY THE ROXY TO ADDRESS THE EEOC MATTER AND EMPLOYMENT ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO LIGHT AT THE ROXY REGIONAL THEATER.

SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW FAMILIAR YOU GUYS ARE WITH THE EEOC CHARGES AND PROCESS, SO I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT.

AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW AND I'M WASTING YOUR TIME.

BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT EDUCATIONAL STEP FOR YOU AND OUTLINE KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS.

THE FIRST STEP IS THE FILING OF A COMPLAINT OR A CHARGE WITH THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION.

THE EEOC THEN OPENS A CASE AND BEGINS AN INVESTIGATION.

THE EEOC ASKS FOR POSITION STATEMENTS OF THE CHARGING PARTY AND THE RESPONDENT.

I DRAFTED A POSITION STATEMENT, I BELIEVE, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL IN YOUR PACKET.

IT WAS UPLOADED TO THE EEOC RESPONDENT PORTAL AND MID-DECEMBER.

THREE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES CAN COME FROM THE EEOC PROCESS.

THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THAT THE EEOC WOULD PURSUE A CASE ON BEHALF OF THE CHARGING PARTY.

THIS IS KIND OF WORST CASE SCENARIO.

THIS IS WHAT WE SEE IN THE NEWS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE EEOC VERSUS ABERCROMBIE WITH RELIGIOUS ACCOMMODATIONS AND HEAD GARMENTS.

THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SAW WITH THAT.

THE SECOND WOULD BE THE EEOC OPTS TO NOT PROCEED OR CAN'T DETERMINE WHETHER A VIOLATION OCCURRED.

SO THEY WOULD ISSUE WHAT'S CALLED A RIGHT TO SUE LETTER AND DISMISS THE CHARGE.

THEY WOULD THEN SAY TO THE CHARGING PARTY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PURSUE THIS AS A COMMISSION.

YOU YOURSELF MAY HIRE PRIVATE COUNSEL AND ATTEMPT TO TO EITHER FILE THIS IN STATE COURT OR FEDERAL COURT, DEPENDING ON THE ALLEGATIONS.

THE CHARGING PARTY WOULD THEN HAVE 90 DAYS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF THE RIGHT TO SUE LETTER TO RETAIN PRIVATE COUNSEL AND FILE SUIT.

THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE THAT THE EEOC CLOSES THE CASE.

NO RIGHT TO SUE LETTERS ISSUED AND THERE'S NO FURTHER ACTION OR FINDINGS.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.

SO ON JANUARY 10TH EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A COLD.

THE EEOC CLOSED THE CASE WITH NO FINDINGS, NO RECOMMENDATIONS, AND NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION INTO THE MATTER.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. HANG ON.

COUNCILPERSON SHEKINAH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

YES. ATTORNEY TRACY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT COULD YOU BACK IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT TOOK PLACE PRIOR TO THIS EEOC INVESTIGATION, THINGS SUCH AS THE TRAINING THAT WAS REQUIRED BY MEMBERS, NOT JUST THE DIRECTOR, BUT OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT STAFF.

YES. OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

YES. THE THE TRAINING WAS REQUIRED.

AN INVESTIGATION WAS DONE BY THE BOARD.

I SHOULD STATE PRIOR TO OUR JANUARY 10TH MEETING, A CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT WAS IN PLACE.

EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT MEETING HAD TO SIGN THAT.

SO EVERYTHING I'LL STATE TONIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE RUN BY THE EEOC TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DISCLOSE TO YOU ALL. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED A PACKET THAT INCLUDED POLICY REVISIONS, CONTRACT REVISIONS, MY EEOC POSITION STATEMENT, AND OTHER MATERIALS.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHEN YOU GOT THAT, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THAT WAS BECAUSE OF MY DIRECTION. I ASKED THAT THEY WITHHOLD THAT UNTIL I GOT CONFIRMATION FROM THE EEOC THAT WE COULD DISCLOSE EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCLOSED TO YOU ALL IN THAT PACKET. SO.

WITH WITH THE INVESTIGATION, CERTAIN THINGS WERE PUT INTO PLACE.

ANNUAL TRAINING IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE SUGGESTED.

I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME POLICY REVISIONS.

I'VE SUGGESTED THAT ALL NEW EMPLOYEES ARE EXPLAINED FULLY TO THE PROCESS AND FOR COMPLAINTS, FOR DISCLOSURES, FOR FOR ANY SORT OF CONCERN THAT THEY MAY HAVE WITH REGARD TO ANY EMPLOYMENT ACTION AT THE ROXY. IN THESE CASES, IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT DID MANAGEMENT KNOW?

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AND SO WE'VE PUT THAT INTO PLACE IN THE NEW POLICIES.

AND HR DIRECTOR IS IN PLACE AN INTIMACY DIRECTOR IN CASE THERE IS THERE IS A SHOW THAT REQUIRES SUCH THING.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO PUT TOGETHER A POLICY FOR A THEATER BECAUSE IT ISN'T A TRADITIONAL WORKPLACE.

THIS SHOWS ARE SHORT AND DURATION.

THERE ARE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.

THERE'S THERE ARE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES OF THE THEATER, BUT THEN SOME ARE COMING IN AND GOING AFTER THEIR SHOW IS DONE.

SOME STAY FOR MULTIPLE SHOWS.

SO WE KIND OF HAD TO GET A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE WITH SOME OF THE LANGUAGE JUST TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS COVERED FOR THAT IN A NORMAL WORKPLACE.

I WILL I WILL SUGGEST THAT COMPANIES HAVE A TRAINING ONCE A YEAR, BRING PEOPLE IN, EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

WHAT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IF THERE'S A CONCERN.

AND IN THIS, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP DOING THAT.

IT NEEDS TO BE A CONTINUOUS CYCLE FOR NEW EMPLOYEES WHO COME IN, FOR ACTORS WHO COME IN FOR A SHOW THAT MAY LAST SIX WEEKS.

SO IT'S KIND OF A HEIGHTENED BURDEN, I THINK, FOR THE AIR AND FOR THE BOARD.

BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

I'VE TOLD THEM TO KEEP PERSONNEL FILES ON EVERYONE, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE, WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY SIGN A CONTRACT WITH THE ROXY FOR A SHOW, EVEN IF IT'S FOR A SIX WEEKS OR EIGHT WEEK SHOW THAT THEY GET THE EXACT SAME ONBOARDING AND INFORMATION THAT AN EMPLOYEE WHO IS A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE OF THE THEATER WOULD GET.

COUNCILPERSON SHANAB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR? YES. AND ATTORNEY TRACEY, I WANT TO READ A STATEMENT.

I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO INTERPRET THIS STATEMENT AND KIND OF ALLUDE TO WHETHER YOU THINK IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, IF IT'S ACCURATE OR NOT.

WHEREAS MEMBERS OF THE ROXY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS RESIGN IN PROTEST AS ITS OWN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CLEARED THE THEATER'S DIRECTOR OF ANY WRONGDOING.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A CLEARING OF WRONGDOING.

I THINK THERE WAS.

I THINK THERE WAS A REPRIMAND AND I THINK THERE WAS CORRECTIVE ACTION.

I THINK THAT MANAGEMENT BECAME AWARE OF THE SITUATION.

THEY SWIFTLY AND ADEQUATELY INVESTIGATED THAT AND THEY CORRECTED IT AS NECESSARY.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YES.

THAT'S GOOD. AND I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU, MA'AM.

AND. AND IN REGARDS TO THE FUNDING.

ALL RIGHT. AND I KNOW YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU ANYWAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK PULLING FUNDING FROM THE ROCKS IT WOULD SOLVE AT THIS POINT? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE PULLING OF FUNDING WOULD WOULD SOLVE ANYTHING.

AND IN FACT, I THINK IT WOULD SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE.

ANYONE CAN FILE AN EMPLOYMENT COMPLAINT WITH THE EEOC.

IT CAN BE DONE ONLINE.

YOU CAN PULL UP THE WEBSITE AND AND FILE A CHARGE.

AND SO I THINK IT IT WOULD BE WRONG TO MAKE THAT CHOICE BASED ON SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON FRIEDMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MS..

KNIGHT, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO ASK YOU BEYOND JUST I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY.

YOU SPOKE EVERYTHING IN REGARDS TO LEGAL, BUT WHAT ALSO DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR EDUCATION? I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SOME EDUCATION IN REGARD TO HUMAN RESOURCE AS WELL, CORRECT? I DO. I HAVE AN MBA.

AND DURING MY STUDIES AS AN MBA STUDENT, I SERVED AS A GRADUATE ASSISTANT FOR PROFESSOR WHO IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

MARC SINGER IS HIS NAME AND HE LOVED EMPLOYMENT LAW.

HE LOVED AIR LAW.

SO WHEN I STARTED THE MBA PROGRAM, I KNEW I WANTED TO FOCUS ON MANAGEMENT.

THAT WAS WHAT I LIKED.

AND I BEGAN WORKING FOR HIM AS A GRADUATE ASSISTANT AND HE REALLY MADE ME LOVE THE FIELD OF H.R.

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I TOOK I TOOK BUSINESS, LAW AND EMPLOYMENT CLASSES DURING THE MBA PROGRAM.

AND THOSE THOSE WERE MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE.

SO MY PRACTICE HERE, I'M VERY, VERY LUCKY TO BE BACK IN MY HOMETOWN OF CLARKSVILLE.

I GREW UP HERE, I WAS BORN HERE, RAISED HERE, MOVED AWAY AND LIVED IN NASHVILLE AND KNOXVILLE FOR A WHILE, THEN MOVED BACK.

AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO PRACTICE EMPLOYMENT LAW IN CLARKSVILLE.

IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU YOU REALLY SEE A LOT OF IN IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND CLARKSVILLE.

AND I WAS I WAS OKAY WITH THAT.

I WAS RESIGNED TO THAT.

BUT I HAVE AND SO IT'S IT'S IT IS MY WHEELHOUSE.

IT'S IT'S MY MY NERDY LITTLE OBSESSION.

I LOVE EMPLOYMENT LAW CASES.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I ENJOY.

SO I DO A LOT OF READING ON THAT.

AND AND THAT'S THAT'S MY PRACTICE AREA.

I ENJOY TALKING TO BUSINESSES AND TELLING THEM WHAT THEY CAN DO TO AVOID ISSUES.

I REPRESENT THE MANAGEMENT SIDE.

I DON'T DO PLAINTIFF'S WORK.

I DO A LOT OF WHAT WHAT COMPANIES CAN DO TO AVOID ISSUES, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE WORKPLACE.

I GET CALLS EVERY DAY WE HAVE THIS GOING ON.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? HOW DO WE WALK THROUGH THIS? WHAT ARE WE THAT KIND OF THAT KIND OF THING? SO THIS THIS WAS I READ THE CLARKSVILLE NOW ARTICLE ON THIS AND THOUGHT, OH, GOSH.

THEY NEED. THEY NEED A LITTLE A LITTLE WORK.

AND. AND SO I REACHED OUT AND AND WE'VE WE'VE DONE SOME SOME POLICY WORK AND IT'S IT'S A GOOD THING I THINK THE ROXY IS IS MOVING FORWARD AND IN A GOOD PLACE.

AND AGAIN IT IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE IT ISN'T A TYPICAL WORKPLACE BUT I.

BUT I THINK THEY ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, AND I THINK THEY ADDRESSED IT EXACTLY HOW THEY NEEDED TO ADDRESS IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE BOARD DID BRING SOMEONE IN THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY VERY, VERY WELL QUALIFIED TO ASSIST NOT ONLY WITH THE INVESTIGATION, THE EEOC COMPLAINT AND THE CHANGING OF HOW THEIR POLICIES ARE IN PLACE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I THANK THE BOARD FOR BRINGING YOU INTO THAT INVOLVEMENT AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILPERSON ALLEN, YOU RECOGNIZE YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS..

KNIGHT? NO. OKAY.

LET'S LET ME GO THROUGH THE LIST.

I'LL GET BACK TO YOU. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER FOR MS..

KNIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU FIRST.

ALL RIGHT. IF I ASK QUESTIONS OF HER, DOES THAT KILL MY SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE? NO. I JUST HAD TWO QUESTIONS, MA'AM, FOR WHAT YOU SAID.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE DIFFERENT OUTCOMES FROM THE EEOC BEFORE I MESSED THAT UP.

THE PERSON WHO FILED THE COMPLAINT ISN'T NOT ALLOWED TO FILE A PRIVATE COURT CLAIM, CORRECT? NO, HE IS NOT.

HE CAN'T AT ALL NOW THAT THEY DID THEIR THING.

CORRECT. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION WAS.

UM. OH, YOU YOU'RE USING THE TERM MANAGEMENT.

AND I, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO YOU'RE CONSIDERING MANAGEMENT, BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE ACCUSED PERSON WAS MANAGEMENT.

SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THAT HIERARCHY ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE WHEN I USE THE WORD MANAGEMENT, I USE IT IN JUST AS A GENERAL TERM OF BUSINESS.

SO IN THIS CASE, THE REPORTING WOULD GO TO THE HR DIRECTOR.

IF IF AN ACTOR OR IF IF ANOTHER EMPLOYEE OF OF THE THEATER HAS AN ISSUE WITH REGARD TO ANYTHING EMPLOYMENT RELATED, HR RELATED, THEY WOULD GO TO THE HR DIRECTOR.

AND I BELIEVE I PUT IT IN THE POLICIES.

THEY COULD ALSO GO TO A BOARD MEMBER.

THE KEY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEE HAS A ROUTE TO TAKE.

SO IN IN A GENERAL BUSINESS SETTING, IF I'M WORKING FOR A SENIOR ATTORNEY AND THAT SENIOR ATTORNEY IS DOING OR SAYING SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, I WOULD HAVE A ROUTE TO GO TO THAT WOULD BE SOMEONE OTHER THAN THAT PERSON.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE CREATED WITH THE POLICIES TO ENSURE THAT THAT PEOPLE HAVE A ROUTE AND IT ISN'T JUST ONE PERSON IN MANAGEMENT.

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KNIGHT? YES OR NO? YES AND NO. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

SO THANK YOU, MARY.

IN MY CURRENT JOB AND MY TWO PREVIOUS JOBS, MY I WENT INTO COMPANIES AND A NONPROFIT THAT DID NOT HAVE HR POLICIES VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU CAN'T HOLD AN EMPLOYEE TO A STANDARD THAT IS NOT IN WRITING THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN BRIEFED ON THAT THEY HAVE NOT SIGNED OFF ON.

IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD SAY PROBABLY NO, BECAUSE THERE ARE THERE ARE LAWS IN PLACE TO PROTECT AN EMPLOYEE, WHETHER THEY'VE SIGNED OFF ON A PROTOCOL OR NOT.

BUT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN'T TELL SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE TARDY IF THERE'S NOT AN ESTABLISHED POLICY FOR ATTENDANCE AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

GENERALLY IN A JOB DESCRIPTION, THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S WRITTEN DOWN THAT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO BE THERE AT A CERTAIN TIME.

SO I TELL I TELL CLIENTS FROM A MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING.

SO CORRECTIVE ACTION, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE ROXY.

TAKING APPROPRIATE CORRECTIVE ACTION.

THAT COULD BE AN EMPLOYEE WHO COMES IN AND IS CONSISTENTLY TARDY.

AND THERE IS A COUNSELING AND A MEMO IN THE EMPLOYEE'S FILE THAT THE COUNSELING TOOK PLACE OR A WRITTEN CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT THAT EMPLOYEE THEN SIGNS.

BUT THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS MANUAL THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN PROVIDED IS THERE ARE CLEAR, PRECISE RULES AND EXPECTATIONS AND PROCEDURES FOR ALL THINGS THAT THAT FALL UNDER THIS.

AND IT'S ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS.

I THINK A LOT OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY HAD PRIOR TO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR SEEKING OUT PROFESSIONAL HELP ON THIS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON SMITH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FROM HIS NIGHT? YES, MA'AM. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS SITUATION WITH THE COUNCIL.

I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY THAT AFTER WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.

THAT YOU ALL NOW DO REQUIRE TRAINING.

FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

THERE WAS AN EMPLOYEE TRAINING FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE ROXY, AS WELL AS WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING IS REQUIRED OF? GENERALLY? WELL, I BELIEVE IT WAS THROUGH WORKFORCE ESSENTIALS AND IT WAS SENSITIVITY TRAINING AND EMPLOYMENT TRAINING.

WORKFORCE IS EMPLOYMENT TRAINING.

SO SO HOW DOES THAT RELATE WITH MANAGEMENT AND HIS RELATIONS WITH HIS STAFF WHERE HE HE HAD INDIVIDUAL TRAINING? OH, INDIVIDUAL TRAINING FOR HIM.

SEPARATE. YES.

OH, OKAY. AND THEN AND IT'S MISS MISS TURNER MIGHT BE ABLE TO BETTER EXPLAIN.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HIS INDIVIDUAL TRAINING DEALT WITH MANAGEMENT OF A THEATER.

AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A REGULAR WORKPLACE.

SO. SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT IT WAS MORE TAILORED TOWARD THAT.

SO RATHER THAN EXPLAINING WHEN I DO TRAININGS FOR FOUR COMPANIES, I WILL TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN THE WORKPLACE WITH REGARD TO STATEMENTS OF REGARDING RACE, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

WE GO INTO WHAT A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT IS AND HOW TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. AND GUESS WHAT? IF WHEN I TAUGHT THIS AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL AND I WAS AN ADJUNCT AT MTSU FOR YEARS, AND I WOULD TELL PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE, IT PROBABLY ISN'T.

AND SO THOSE TRAININGS GO INTO THAT.

THEY TALK ABOUT VIGNETTES, THEY TALK ABOUT SCENARIOS.

WOULD THIS BE APPROPRIATE? IS THIS HARASSMENT? IS THIS NOT WOULD THIS FALL INTO WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED HOSTILE, WHAT WOULD NOT? AND I HAVE ONE MORE THOUGHT ON MY MIND.

I KNOW THAT THE ROXY BOARD TOOK ACTION AND FOLLOW THROUGH AFTER THE ALLEGED COMPLAINTS.

YES. AND AND IT CAME WITH THIS TRAINING AND REPRIMAND OF THE ALLEGED OFFENDER.

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BUT YOU ALL TOOK ACTION FIRST BASED UPON THE ALLEGATION.

YES. THE EEOC, WHEN THEY HAVE A CHARGE, PART OF THEIR INVESTIGATION IS TO LOOK AT THE COMPANY, LOOK AT MANAGEMENT GENERALLY AND SAY, WHAT DID MANAGEMENT DO IF MANAGEMENT GETS A COMPLAINT? AND. JUST SAYS, OH, WE DON'T REALLY TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY OR OH, THAT'S JUST HOW HE IS.

HE SAYS THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, THAT KIND OF THING, THAT THAT'S NOT A TRUE INVESTIGATION.

SO THEY WILL LOOK AT THE DEPTH AND THE BREADTH OF A COMPANY OR EXACTLY HOW DID YOU WHAT DID MANAGEMENT DO? WHAT WHAT PROTOCOLS ARE IN PLACE? WHAT SAFEGUARDS, WHAT WAS CHANGED? THOSE SORTS OF THINGS MADE SOME CHANGES AND THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MS..

KNIGHT? YOU RECOGNIZED I APPRECIATE THE THE MANUAL AND I'VE ACTUALLY READ IT.

SO MY ONLY QUESTION AND PERHAPS I MISSED IT IS WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT DISCIPLINE MEASURES FOR THESE THINGS, I DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT LIKE CLEARLY OUTLINED.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I GREW UP IN THE MILITARY, SO IT WAS ALWAYS ZERO TOLERANCE.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT I EXPECT, BUT USUALLY I SEE IT OUTLINED.

I SEE IF THEY'RE TARDY.

I SEE THE HOW OFTEN YOU CAN BE TARDY BEFORE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

IS THAT IN ANOTHER DOCUMENT OR IT IS NOT.

IT IS RARE FOR A HANDBOOK TO OUTLINE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIT EVERY EXAMPLE INTO THAT BOX.

SO WHEN WHEN I HAVE EXPLAINED TO THE HR DIRECTOR WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, A VERBAL WARNING FIRST, THEN A WRITTEN REPRIMAND, I ALSO TELL THEM IF THERE'S A COUNSELING TO DOCUMENT THAT DATE, IT PUT IT IN THE PERSONNEL FILE.

JUST KEEP TRACK OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, I THINK, TO OUTLINE WHAT EVERY SCENARIO SHOULD, WHETHER IT SHOULD RECEIVE VERBAL COUNSELING OR WRITTEN WARNING. SO I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT PURPOSELY, IF THAT HELPS.

COUNCIL PERSONNEL AND FOR MIDNIGHT OR JUST GENERALLY.

OKAY, ONE FOR ME NIGHT.

BUT THEN I HAVE A GENERAL THING.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT HER QUESTION WAS.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY IMPLEMENTATION OF A00 TOLERANCE POLICY FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT? IF IF SOMEBODY COMES AND THERE'S BEEN AN INVESTIGATION AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT THERE WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE WORKPLACE ROMANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE IS THERE ANY ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY PUT INTO PLACE FOR THAT SO THAT NEITHER PARTY FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE IN THE WORKPLACE? THE THE WORD ZERO TOLERANCE IS NOT IN THE POLICY THAT I DRAFTED.

HOWEVER, THE LANGUAGE IS CLEAR THAT IF THIS OCCURS OR IF THEY KNOW IT AND HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING, THEN TERMINATION IS A POSSIBILITY. OC IF THAT HELPS.

OC YES, AGAIN, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO OUTLINE SPECIFICALLY, SO I TRIED TO USE GENERAL TERMS RIGHT, RIGHT.

I GOT YOU. BECAUSE EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.

EVERY TIME MY PHONE RINGS, IT'S LIKE A BAR EXAM QUESTION AND I NEVER KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

SO I CAN'T I CAN'T OUTLINE ALL OF THAT.

I WISH I COULD.

THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT HANDBOOK.

BUT IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY BIG.

THANK YOU, MISS KNIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL PERSONNEL.

AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, ON AUGUST 26, 2022, I STOOD IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE I HAD HEARD ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE ROXY.

WE HAD RECEIVED AMPLE AMOUNT OF EMAILS BY THAT POINT AND WE WERE NOT HEARING ANYTHING BACK IN RETURN.

AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF REACHED OUT TO MS..

TURNER AND SAID, HEY, LET'S SIT DOWN AND MEET.

SHE SAID, I WILL MEET WITH ME.

AND SHE SAID, OKAY, WANDA, ALL THIS IS COMING INTO PLACE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, GOOD.

AND THEN THIS ORDINANCE CAME UP.

SO ORIGINALLY ME AND MS..

TURNER HAD SAID, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN SIX MONTHS.

LET'S SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.

AND AND THEN THIS ORDINANCE CAME UP AND IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, WHERE DO WE GO WITH THAT? THAT IS WHY I RECOMMEND IT BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH THIS ORDINANCE, LET'S WAIT UNTIL THIS EEOC THING COMES BACK AND WE HAVE THE INFORMATION.

SOMETIMES IT'S JUST WAITING TO HAVE THE INFORMATION AND THEN INCLUDE IT IN THAT INFORMATION THAT WE GOT BACK FROM EEOC.

WE GOT A WHOLE HANDBOOK THAT IS GOING TO BE GIVEN OUT TO ANYBODY THAT COMES AND WORK AT THE ROXY.

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I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

MS.. TURNER. THANK YOU, MR. BOWIE, BECAUSE IT WAS TRULY A CONCERN TO ME OF WHAT WOULD THE LONGEVITY LOOK LIKE, ESPECIALLY BEING SOMEONE THAT GREW UP IN THE THEATER. WELL, IN THE DANCE STUDIO AND KNOWING WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT REALM, PEOPLE GO IN AND OUT.

IT'S VERY TRANSIENT. WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE STAPLE FOR WHEN NEW ACTORS COME IN, NEW PERFORMERS COME IN.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS OR FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

AND THANK YOU.

AND I DO APOLOGIZE THAT I DID BRING IT UP IN THIS COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I'M GLAD IT GOT RESOLVED.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I GUESS THE ONLY THING LEFT TO SAY IS I CAN ABSOLUTELY AMEND THE WHEREAS PARAGRAPH NUMBER SIX.

WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN AMEND THESE THINGS.

AND NOW HAVING THE THE NOT FINDING THE NON FINDINGS THAT WE HAVE, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANT US TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT GOING FORWARD.

IT IS NOT LOST ON ME THAT THE ROXIE DID EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR.

AND I THINK I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S VERY WELL DONE.

I SAID THAT TO THE HR DIRECTOR IN AN EMAIL.

BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE THINGS THAT WE SAY AND SAY WHAT WE MEAN AND MEAN WHAT WE SAY.

BECAUSE THE INITIAL ROXY INVESTIGATION DID NOT CLEAR ANYBODY.

IT DID SOMETHING DID OCCUR THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE.

IT HAS BEEN HANDLED WITH THAT HAS BEEN ADMITTED.

SO TO CONTINUE SITTING UP HERE AND SAYING THAT SOMETHING DIDN'T HAPPEN IS ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUSLY DISINGENUOUS AND IT BELITTLES THE ISSUES THAT ACTUALLY DID OCCUR.

PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY DESERVE.

WHAT'S THAT THING YOU ALWAYS SAY? DUE PROCESS.

PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY ALWAYS DESERVE DUE PROCESS.

BUT AFTER DUE PROCESS, IF THE IF ALL OF THE ACCUSATIONS WEREN'T ALL OF THE ACCUSATIONS WEREN'T 100% TRUE, THE ONES THAT WERE WERE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANKS, GUYS. COUNCILPERSON RANDY RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HEARD THE WISDOM OF OUR MAYOR PRO TEM WHENEVER SHE POINTED OUT THAT THIS HAS BEEN HANDLED OR IT'S BEEN INVESTIGATED AND EVERYTHING FROM THE BOARD.

AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, MAYOR, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT CITY EMPLOYEES.

AND IF IT'S CITY EMPLOYEES, WE ARE OVER THE ACTIONS THAT CAN HAPPEN THERE.

BUT ON BOARDS THAT THIS IS UP TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS OR TO SANCTION SOMEONE OR OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO DO TO HANDLE THIS INSIDE, I THINK THAT THAT WE MIGHT BE GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE OR WE'RE GOING TO START MICROMANAGING WHAT WILL BE THE NEXT THING THAT WE DON'T LIKE A CERTAIN BOARD MEMBER.

WE DIDN'T WANT HIM TO BE PLACED THERE.

SO THERE'LL BE ANOTHER RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE TO PULL FUNDING FROM SOME OTHER ENTITY.

AND AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT THIS IS THIS IS THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. AND MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, IF WE WERE TO PULL THE 70, LET'S SUPPOSE THAT THE ORDINANCE PASSES, IT'S 77,000, WHAT EFFECT WOULD THAT HAVE THERE? BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S BEING SPENT ON THERE, BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE SING THEN? WE'RE NOW READY FOR ITEM TWO, RESOLUTION 46, 2022 23, A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE PARKING COMMISSION RECONSIDER THEIR DECISION AND REINSTATE THE ISSUANCE OF FREE PARKING PASSES TO THE ELECTED CITY COUNCIL PERSONS IN THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE, AND TO THE ELECTED COMMISSIONERS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, TENNESSEE.

COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS IS THE SPONSOR.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

YES. GOOD EVENING.

I JUST IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND PAGE OF THE ORDINANCE, YOU WILL SEE UNDER NEW BUSINESS THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY DECIDED BY THE PARKING COMMISSIONERS IN SEPTEMBER.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE ON ON THE ON THE COUNCIL, BUT I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT UNTIL I ACTUALLY GOT A WARNING TICKET IN DECEMBER.

AND THEN I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS AND STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH.

AND I WAS WELL, ONCE I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS DECIDED IN SEPTEMBER AND WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED, I

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BUT I KNOW THAT SOME SOME MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARK BECAUSE OF THEIR JOB DOWNTOWN.

BUT I DO COME DOWNTOWN TO DO BUSINESS.

AND TO BE CLEAR THERE, SOMETIMES I COME DOWN AND IF I KNOW I HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING OR A BOARD MEETING, I WILL SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH ANOTHER PERSON EARLIER JUST SO I CAN COME DOWN ONCE DURING THE WEEK INSTEAD OF TWO OR THREE TIMES.

I JUST FEEL STRONGLY THAT PARKING IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS CITY COUNCIL PERSON SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO.

WE'RE ABOUT TO GET BUSY WHEN WE OPEN THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND WE START HAVING MORE THINGS COME DOWN, THE HOURS OF LEGAL PARKING ARE PROBABLY GOING TO CHANGE. SO YOU REALIZE, LIKE I CAME HERE TODAY AT 410, TECHNICALLY I SHOULD HAVE PAID FOR PARKING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AUTHORIZED.

UNLESS YOU GIVE MR. PALMER A YOUR LICENSE PLATE NUMBER, YOU'RE NOT AUTHORIZED RIGHT NOW TO PARK IN EMPLOYEE PARKING LIKE THEY ENDED ALL OF THAT FOR ALL OF US.

I ALSO FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND NOT JUST CITY COUNCIL PERSONS.

SO I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN THE SENSE OF THE.

COUNCIL TONIGHT OF WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF THIS.

AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. PALMER, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

MAYOR. WELL, HEAR FROM HIM IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WELL, HE. HIM AND I SPOKE AFTER I DID SOME RESEARCH AND KIND OF CIRCLED AROUND AND SPOKE TO A COUPLE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE INFORMATION IN THE NEW BUSINESS, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WERE NOTIFIED, BUT WE WERE NOT.

THIS ALSO LEAVES IT VERY OPEN OF WHO CAN PARK AND WHO MAKES THE DECISION OF WHEN TO PARK.

THE NEW BUSINESS FROM THE COMMISSIONER SAID THAT WE COULD SEND MR. PALMER A LIST OF WHEN WE WERE COMING DOWNTOWN AND HE COULD DECIDE IF NOT OR NOT, TO ALLOW US TO PARK DOWNTOWN.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO.

WE SPOKE ON THE PHONE AND HE IT DOES NOT SAY IN THE NEW BUSINESS, BUT PART OF IT WAS WE COULD STILL PARK IN EMPLOYEE PARKING AND WALK.

I MEAN, THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

SO IT'S ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH FOR DISCUSSION AT THE COMMISSIONERS MEETING.

WELL, IT WAS PROPOSED.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

EXCUSE ME, I SHOULD, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER SHELTON PROPOSED THAT IT COME BACK UP FOR RECONSIDERATION.

AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A CITY COUNCIL GIVE THE SENSE OF THE COUNCIL OF WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE THE CONSIDERATION.

I WILL ASK MR. PALMORE IF HE WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD AND JUST TELL US THE CURRENT SITUATION WITH PARKING FOR CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

MR. PALMORE. THANK YOU.

SO CURRENT STATE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL PARK AT THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE, BUT THEIR SECRETARIES OR SOMEONE WILL SEND ME THEIR PLATE NUMBERS AND ME GET IN IN THE MORNING.

SINCE THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 18 OF THEM.

SO ON AVERAGE, ABOUT TWO A DAY FOR CITY COUNCIL.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THE IDEA WAS THAT YOU GUYS WILL PARK IN OUR CITY PARKING LOT.

ALLOWED TO DO BUSINESS DOWNTOWN.

AND I WILL ALSO CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT TO THE THE COMMUNICATION PIECE AND I WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR THAT.

IT WAS A BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNICATION, BUT THE IDEA WAS THAT YOU GUYS WERE ALLOWED TO PARK IN THE CITY PARKING LOT PARK THERE DO CITY BUSINESS AND THAT'S IT.

AND YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I WOULD NEED YOUR PLATE NUMBERS AND I WOULD BLOCK IT IN OUR ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM.

SO TELL US, MR. PALMORE, WHY YOU HAVE NEED THE LICENSE PLATE, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST FRESH OFF ANOTHER ISSUE.

YES. SO SO WE HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT APP.

IT'S CALLED BALLPARK.

BALLPARK IS A NEW THING THAT WE IMPLEMENTED BACK IN JULY, I BELIEVE.

AND THIS ENFORCEMENT APP ALLOWS US TO RECOGNIZE PLATE NUMBERS.

SO WHAT PART OF THIS HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHO HAS MULTIPLE TICKETS? BUT IT ALSO GIVES US AN ADVANTAGE OF BLOCKING CERTAIN LOCATIONS AND ALLOWING CITY COUNCIL COMMISSIONERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, TO GIVE A BLOCK LIST TO ALLOW YOU GUYS TO PARK WHEN NEEDED. NO, EXPLAIN.

BLOCK YOU DON'T MEAN PROHIBIT, RIGHT? I MEAN BY BLOCK. I MEAN JUST YEAH.

BLOCK AS IN NOT ALLOWED TO GET A TICKET.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION? I DO. SO THE PARKING AT FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

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AT WHAT TIME? PARKING LOT FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

OPENS UP TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT NIGHT.

I COME DOWN WHEN I GO TO STRAWBERRY AFTER 5 P.M..

I'M SORRY. YES.

SO NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING TO GET MORE EVENTS DOWNTOWN, THERE IS A PROPENSITY TO CHANGE THE ENFORCEMENT HOURS OF OF PARKING ON AT THE CITY AND OTHER PLACES.

CORRECT. THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE THE AUTHORITY OF THE PARKING COMMISSION.

BUT THAT THE CITY HALL PARKING LOT IS A CITY ASSET.

IT'S NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE PARKING COMMISSION.

SO AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHEN I FIRST READ THIS BEFORE OUR CONVERSATION, THIS PARAGRAPH DOES NOT STATE THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PARK IN THE CITY PARKING LOT.

UNTIL YOU TURN IN YOUR LICENSE PLATE, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PARK.

AND IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THAT WOULD DO THAT.

I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO NOT THINK THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS SHOULD HAVE TO SEND THEIR LICENSE PLATES OR THEIR AGENDA TO TO YOU WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR FOR I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGE AS US AND WE SHOULD AT THE VERY LEAST, ALL BE ALLOWED TO PARK IN ANY CITY PARKING LOTS.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE BLOCKED AND WE SHOULD BE TREATED AS AS EQUALS IN THIS INSTANCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON SHEKINAH FOR MR. PALMORE, OR JUST GENERALLY JUST GENERAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PALMORE.

AND I REALLY THINK I'M ON THE PARKING COMMISSION.

I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE A CONVENIENT FOR US TO COME AND DO OUR JOBS.

THE RESIDENTS, THEY EXPECT US TO BE ABLE TO COME DOWN HERE AND DO WORK ON THEIR BEHALF AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY.

AND IT'S JUST AN INCONVENIENCE FOR ANY OF US, WHETHER IT'S CITY OR COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS, TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH EXTRA LOOPHOLES TO DO THIS.

SO AN EASY FIX FOR THAT COMMISSION WOULD BE JUST TO APPROVE PASSES FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ACTUALLY DID HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I'M SORRY. YEAH.

MR. PALMORE. BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO DO THE SAME THING.

BUT THE MAYOR'S THE MAYOR AND HE BEAT ME TO IT BECAUSE I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU, WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED? I DON'T THINK WE'D NECESSARILY NEED TO GO OVER THAT.

BUT WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION, AND I ACTUALLY DON'T CARE IF WE HAVE FREE PARKING, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE CONCERNS. AND THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO ASK YOU IS AND MAYBE THIS IS A MOOT POINT, DID THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FINANCIAL ASPECT? BECAUSE I'M WONDERING WHAT FINANCIAL IMPACT DOES THIS MAKE? SO IT IS MY DUTY AS THE PARKING DIRECTOR TO BRING ISSUES TO THE PARKING COMMISSION THAT COULD HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP BACK IN DECEMBER OF I'M SORRY, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE OF 2021. AND IT WAS POSTPONED AND THEN IT WAS BROUGHT BACK DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE CHANGED RATES BACK IN 2022.

AND WHEN WE CHANGED RATES, WE ALSO CHANGED THE PROCESS OF HOW MONTHLY PARKING WAS WORKING AND WE DID NOT OFFER YEARLY PARKING THAT ENDED UP HAVING A CHAIN EFFECT WHERE COUNTY CALLED AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR YEARLY PASSES.

AND THIS IS WHY I WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE COMMISSION.

AND IT DOES HAVE A FINANCIAL IMPACT WHEN IT LOOKS AT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PARKING IN CUMBERLAND GARAGE AND GARAGE IS A REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THE PARKING AUTHORITY. I'M SORRY FOR THE PARKING COMMISSION.

AND WITH THAT, IT DOES NEED IT IS A FINANCIAL IMPACT FOR THAT.

AND THEY HAVE, I THINK, A 21.

YEP. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH THIS IDEA.

AND THESE ARE LIKE SUCH SMALL POTATO THINGS BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M I'M NOT FOR REINSTATING EVERYONE'S PARKING PASSES.

THOSE OF US THAT HAVE MEETINGS OVER AT CUMBERLAND BECAUSE YOU SAID WE CAN PARK IN THE IN THIS PARKING LOT HERE ACTUALLY.

ANYWAY WHAT ABOUT WHEN WE DO HAVE BUSINESS OVER THERE AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE? AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN? AND I KNOW PERSONALLY THAT IF I SEND YOU A TICKET THAT I LEGITIMATELY WAS DOING MY JOB AND STUFF, THEN YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, BUT THAT IS ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE. IF YOU'RE TAKING LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS, I'M WONDERING, WELL, WHAT ABOUT A.

IF MY CAR BREAKS, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE MY HUSBAND'S CAR, WHAT I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON WITH MORE THAN ONE CAR IN MY HOUSE.

AND. I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY DO.

MAYBE. TIMES RATHER THAN BY INDIVIDUAL TIMES THAT WE HAVE TO BE LIKE, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD PARK HERE FOR FREE ON THE

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THAT'S JUST ME SPITFIRE IN AN IDEA.

BUT I DID WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP BECAUSE WE HAVE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH PARKING, PARTICULARLY IN THE SUMMER RIGHT HERE WHERE MY COLLEAGUE OVER THERE, SHE'S WALKING LIKE THREE BLOCKS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO FIND A PARKING SPOT AND SOMETHING THAT WE DID.

BUT IT ONLY LASTED, I THINK FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS WAS BLOCK OFF THE.

THIS FRONT ROW SO THAT WE COULD ALL PARK HERE TO COME IN HERE BECAUSE THAT LOT DOES GET FULL.

SO I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER FIX.

THAT'S REALLY IT. I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW.

I ASSUME IF YOU BRING IT UP, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH.

SO I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL PERSON. ALAN FOR MR. PALMORE. YES. SO I HAVE QUESTIONS.

YES, MA'AM. REALLY? ANY STATEMENTS? SO MY VERY FIRST QUESTION IS.

SO THE PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE NEXT TO CITY HALL, FOR EXAMPLE? YES, MA'AM. SO.

WELL, OUR LICENSE PLATES BE BLOCK THERE ALL THE TIME OR JUST WHEN WE CALL AND SAY, SO IF I IF I SCHEDULE A MEETING DOWNTOWN WITH A CONSTITUENT, I HAVE TO CALL AND SAY, BLOCK ME KNOW.

SO THAT IS ONLY FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE PARKING IN A REVENUE GENERATING LOCATION FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YOU GUYS WILL HAVE BLOCKED PLATES, MEANING THAT YOU CAN PARK IN CITY HALL AT ANY TIME YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS DOWNTOWN.

OKAY, SO.

CITY BUSINESS.

I KNOW THAT FREE PARKING DOESN'T START TILL FIVE.

SOMETIMES WE GET OUT OF HERE REALLY LATE.

RIGHT? SO IF I PARK RIGHT HERE IN THE FRONT, I'M.

I GOING TO GET A TICKET. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M SORRY IF I PARK RIGHT HERE IN THE FRONT WHERE THERE'S METERS THAT THOSE ARE REVENUE GENERATING.

RIGHT. I'M IN A COUNCIL MEETING AT.

I GOT TO BE HERE 430.

I'M HERE AND HERE AT 410.

DOES THAT, IS THAT GOING TO GENERATE FOR ME TO GET A TICKET IF I'M IN THERE BEFORE FIVE? TECHNICALLY, YES.

IF YOU ARE PARKED AT A METER SPOT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

NOW, THIS IS ALSO IF THE CITY HALL LAW IS IS IS FULL.

IT IS AN EASY TEXT MESSAGE OR AN EMAIL TO ME TO SAY, HEY, MIKEY OR MR. PALMORE, PLEASE LET YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO PARK HERE.

NOW, I WOULD SAY IF CITY HALL LOT IS BUSY AND IT IS FULL, YOU COULD USE PUBLIC SQUARE AS THE OTHER OPTION WITHOUT GIVING ME A PHONE CALL RIGHT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL RIGHT HERE.

OKAY, SO RIGHT HERE IN FRONT WHERE THE METERS ARE.

YES. OC OC.

SO, I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION WHEN I HAD HEARD ABOUT THE WHOLE PARKING THING.

IT'S IF WE IF WE KNOW WE'RE HERE FOR BUSINESS AND WE KNOW WE'RE HERE 15, 20, 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE PARKING METERS GO OFF OR WHATEVER.

THE MAIN THING ABOUT PARKING ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S NOT REALLY HAS TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO BE UP CLOSE AND IN THE FRONT.

IT'S THAT YOU HAVE.

13 PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL THAT HAVE TO GET TO THEIR CARS LATE AT NIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO PARK RIGHT HERE IN THE FRONT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PARKING LOT BY OURSELVES AT NIGHT.

DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? WE HAVE ONE POLICE OFFICER OUT THERE TO GET US TO OUR CARS.

DO YOU SEE? SO THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN.

IT'S SAFETY. IF THERE IS A COUNCIL MEETING HAPPENING THAT NIGHT AND WE'RE AWARE OF IT, WE CAN BAG THOSE METERS AND THEN THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE.

BAG THEM AND TELL NOBODY ELSE TO PARKING THEM BESIDE THE COUNCIL.

I WILL DO MY BEST.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON SCREAMING FOR MR. PALMORE, OR GENERALLY MINE'S A GENERAL OC.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

OC, GO FOR MR. PALMORE. NOW YOU CAN.

YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. GO AHEAD.

I CAN WAIT TO ALLOW OTHERS TO.

YOU KNOW, FOR ME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING HERE WITH THE PARKING.

I'VE NEVER USED MY PARKING TAG IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL.

AND I JUST FIND WHERE I NEED TO PARK, BE ABLE TO GO IN, WHETHER IT'S FOR COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH IS OFTEN AFTER 4:00.

THE BANK IS, OF COURSE, CLOSED AFTER 4:00, MEANING THERE'S PARKING AVAILABLE UP THERE TO BE ABLE TO PARK.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE FOR SOME, BUT WE GET PAID A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY MONTH TO BE ABLE TO SERVE.

I DON'T SEE WHERE WE'RE ANY DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE TO COME DOWNTOWN AND DO DO BUSINESS, WHETHER IT'S CITY BUSINESS, WHETHER IT'S BUSINESS FOR THE BUSINESS THAT THEY OWN DOWNTOWN, OR TO GIVE BUSINESS TO OTHER CITY OR OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED IN OUR DOWNTOWN.

SO I FOR ME, I THINK IF PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING TO TURN IN LICENSE PLATES AND TURN IN THEIR SCHEDULE AND PROVE THAT THEY'RE ON CITY BUSINESS, YOU COULD REALLY MAKE IT JUST SIMPLE ALL TOGETHER AND JUST TAKE THAT COMPLETE COMPONENT OUT.

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I MEAN, I MAY LOOK AT IT DIFFERENT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL OF ANYONE.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE PAID TO DO THIS JOB, MONEY FOR US TO HAVE TO BE IN THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE NEED OUR PARKING COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THEMSELVES FINANCIALLY AND TO BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO DO WITH THE REVENUE GENERATOR OF THE CURRENT GARAGE, AS WELL AS TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE GARAGE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING.

AND THAT'LL BE OPEN IN JANUARY OF 2024.

SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND ALL THE INPUT FROM NOT ONLY YOU, BUT AS WELL AS THE ENTIRE PARKING COMMISSION.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE IN TO BE ABLE TO TRY AND TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

COUNCILPERSON MCLAUGHLIN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

MR. PALMORE THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHEN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE COUNTY MAYOR'S OFFICE DID HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PASSES.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT FOUR OR SO YEARS AGO.

THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT DOES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE FOR THEIR PARKING SPACES ALONG THE STREET? AND THEN IN THE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE? ARE THOSE DO THEY PAY FOR THOSE? IS THERE AN AGREEMENT? THERE IS THERE IS A CONTRACT THAT THEY PAY AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COMPANY.

SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DID WITH THE PARKING COMMISSION, WE MADE THINGS A LOT FAIR.

SO IT'S LESS ABOUT GOVERNMENT VERSUS NON, IT'S MORE ABOUT A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

SO WHAT WE DO IS THEY HAVE A MONTHLY CONTRACT.

I THINK THEY PAY, I THINK THEIR QUARTERLY MAYBE WHAT THEY PAY AND THEN THEY HAVE THE LOT AND THEY ALSO PAY FOR THE SIX SPACES IN FRONT.

AND THAT WAS SORRY, THAT WAS DONE PRIOR TO MY LEADERSHIP.

YEAH. BEEN A LONG, LONG TIME AGREEMENT.

SO THEN I'M JUST THIS IS CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

YES, MA'AM. WE'VE ALL SAID DIFFERENT THINGS AND I'M OLDER AND MY BRAIN DOESN'T PROCESS LIKE IT USED TO.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ALLOWED NOW TO PARK IN THE CITY HALL PARKING LOT WITH OUR INFORMATION PROVIDED TO YOU? CORRECT. IN AN EMERGENCY, WE CAN PARK ON PUBLIC SQUARE.

YES. COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE THE BURDEN.

YOU HAVE THE BURDEN THEN OF 21 PHONE CALLS.

I HAVE A MEETING DOWNTOWN.

IF IF THE PARKING COMMISSION IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO PARK IN A CERTAIN SPOT, WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR SOMEBODY AT THE COUNTY MAYOR'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE A LIST OF COMMITTEES WITH WHAT THEIR REGULAR MEETINGS ARE SO THAT THAT'S ALREADY FRONT LOADED TO SAVE THEM? THE TROUBLE OF HAVING TO CONTACT YOU AND YOU FIELDING ALL OF THOSE PHONE CALLS SO THAT IT'S SET IN PLACE.

AND THEN IT WOULD ONLY BE LIKE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE THE THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT YOU.

THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT COMMITTEES WERE ON.

WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET.

THEY KNOW THE SAME THING.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONVENIENCE.

AND I GET THE REVENUE SIDE OF THINGS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE BUILDING NEW PLACES.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ALL SERVING THE PUBLIC IN A WAY.

AND AND IF THERE WAS, WOULD HAVE TO BE A FEE ASSESSED BY ACCOUNTING THE COUNTY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD ASK THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION LOOK AT SOMETHING DISCOUNTED.

BUT I DO THINK THAT IF THEY COULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU WHO'S ON A COMMITTEE WHEN THEY MEET, THAT THAT'D BE A LOT OF WORK ON THE FRONT END TO LOAD THAT IN.

BUT IT WOULD SAVE YOU ALL OF THOSE PHONE CALLS.

AND I KNOW YOU GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS FOR ME.

NOT NICE TO MEET YOU.

SO THAT WAS THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, BUT I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL PERSON READ YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK I READ IN A PUBLISHED ONLINE REPORT ABOUT THIS AND SOMEONE HAD SUGGESTED OR TALKED ABOUT ON THERE TO THAT WE COULD PURCHASE AN ANNUAL PASS PERHAPS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SLEEVES GOING OVER THE PARKING METERS AND PEOPLE CALLING YOU UP, TELLING YOU WHEN THE OUR BOARDS ARE GOING TO BE AND COMMITTEES ARE GOING TO MEET.

BUT I THINK IF WE HAD AN ANNUAL PASS, THAT WOULD BE SIMPLER.

AND IF THOSE THAT DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY THEY NEED IT, THEY COULD JUST OPT OUT AND SAY, I DON'T NEED THE ANNUAL PASS.

AND NOW THAT I'VE LEARNED THAT WE ACTUALLY GET PAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD COST US? THAT'S SPECULATION THERE.

MR. PALMORE I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I CAN GET THEM TO YOU.

GOOD ANSWER. GOOD ANSWER. WE WE DID REMOVE YEARLY PASSES, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN ALSO BRING TO THE PARKING COMMISSION FOR NEXT MEETING AND THEY CAN VERY WELL VOTE ON THAT IF THEY WOULD LIKE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE THE EASY THING TO DO RATHER THAN OPENING UP THIS SECTION AND THAT SECTION.

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AND TO BE FAIR, COUNTY HAS NOT SENT ME 21 NAMES.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY IF I WAS GETTING THAT MANY A DAY.

BUT IT IS A SUGGESTION COUNCILPERSON ZACHARIAS YOU RECOGNIZED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. COULD.

THIS MIGHT BE WELL BELOW YOUR PAY GRADE.

BUT WHAT IS THE THE CURRENT POLICY ON NON ELECTED CITY OFFICIALS FOR FOR PARKING.

MR. PALMORE, DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? I'M SORRY. A NON-ELECTED CITY EMPLOYEE.

WHAT? DO THEY HAVE ANY PARKING RESTRICTION? NO. AND HONESTLY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE WHEN YOU ASKED WHAT BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE WITH THE PARKING COMMISSION, THEY WERE TRYING TO BE FAIR AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DON'T PAY FOR OR THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR PARKING.

AND THEY THINK THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I'LL BE HONEST, I.

SO THE WORD THAT I USE SOMETIMES IS ICKY.

I FEEL A LITTLE BIT ICKY VOTING FOR A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD GIVE ME AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, SOME SORT OF PRIVILEGE OVER ANY OTHER NON ELECTED CITY EMPLOYEE.

I THINK. I MEAN, IF THE RULES ARE THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD, THEN THE RULES ARE THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU.

TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. MS..

MATTA WANTS TO ADD CLARITY.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING MY QUESTION AND I'M SORRY.

THE PARKING COMMISSION REPORTED TO ME FOR NINE YEARS, SO I HAVE THAT HISTORY.

ANYBODY? I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR IF YOU'RE AN APPOINTED TO A BOARD.

THE PARKING COMMISSION HAS GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO THE PARKING MANAGER TO AVOID THEIR TICKETS IF THEY'RE HERE ON CITY BUSINESS.

SO ANY TIME THEY'RE AT A MEETING, IF THEY GET TICKETED OR THEY GET A WARNING, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY FOR PARKING.

I PAY FOR PARKING.

IF I GO OUTSIDE MY WORK HOURS, I HAVE TO PAY FOR PARKING, BUT HE CAN VOID IT FOR ANYBODY HERE, FOR ANY OTHER MEETING.

AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD ONE THING.

IF FREE PARKING IS GIVEN TO ANY OF YOU ALL, ULTIMATELY, NOT JUST FOR YOUR MEETINGS, IT'S A TAXABLE BENEFIT BY THE IRS RULES.

SO NOW YOU ALL WOULD BE TAXED ON THE VALUE OF THAT.

WE'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT IT AS DE MINIMIS BECAUSE IT'S ONLY WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FREE PARKING DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE NEVER TAXED IT BEFORE.

THANK YOU, MISS MANNA.

OH. OH.

OH. MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND, WE WERE THIS CLOSE.

MR. BAKER, PUT.

PUT MINUTE ON THE CLOCK.

MADAM CLERK, I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

TECHNICALLY, UNDER THE CHARTER, YOU ARE NOT AN EMPLOYEE.

NONE OF YOU ARE.

THE IS NOT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NOT THE CITY JUDGE IS NOT.

YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

AND THE CHARTER MAKES A DISTINCTION BETWEEN EMPLOYEES AND OFFICIALS.

FOR THE ETHICS CODE.

YOU ARE CONSIDERED AN EMPLOYEE FOR PURPOSES OF THE ETHICS CODE AS IT DEFINES IT THAT WAY.

BUT YOU ARE AN OFFICIAL, NOT AN EMPLOYEE.

FOR THE RECORD, THAT WAS 45 SECONDS.

ALL RIGHT. YES.

COUNSEL, PERSONS, ACCURACY OF THE FLOOR.

WELL, THIS NON EMPLOYEE IS PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THE SAME PARKING PRIVILEGES THAT THE REGULAR EMPLOYEES OR THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES RECEIVE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILPERSON STREETMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

I THINK MY QUESTION MIGHT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY IN REFERENCE TO THOSE THAT VOLUNTEER TO SERVE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BOTH FOR CITY AND FOR COUNTY. OR THAT WOULD BE CITY ONLY.

NO. BOTH SO ANYBODY BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT GETTING PAID TO SERVE ON THOSE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.

SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TURN THEIR TICKETS IN AND GET THOSE WAIVED IF THEY SO CHOSE.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS, YOU RECOGNIZED? YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I WROTE THIS AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT SAYS WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO PARK IN THE CITY PARKING GARAGE. AND UNTIL I CALLED AND EVEN AT THE CONVERSATION WHEN I SPOKE TO MR. PALMER, HE SAID THAT WAS TRUE.

LIKE WE UNTIL IT'S IT'S WRITTEN SO VAGUELY AND SO POORLY THAT IT DOES NOT GIVE US PARKING PRIVILEGES IN THE CITY.

PARKING IN ANY OF THE CITY PARKING.

BUT I ALSO WILL SAY THAT I STILL BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE ALL OF YOU ARE INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY.

I DON'T CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I GET A LOT OF MONEY.

SO IT WAS IT WAS, AGAIN, A BUSINESS EXPENSE.

I LOOK AT THIS AS WHEN WE TRAVEL, WE GET PAID.

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WHEN WE COME TO DO BUSINESS, I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO.

THE REASON MR. PALMER DOESN'T GET A LOT OF EMAILS RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE NOBODY KNEW OF THE PROCESS.

NOW WE KNOW THE PROCESS.

I THINK THAT YOUR EMAIL BOX IS GOING TO FILL UP A LOT MORE BECAUSE I'LL BE SENDING ONE ONCE A WEEK.

SO, SO THAT, THAT TOO.

BUT THAT JUST ADDS ONE MORE TASK FOR ME AS I'M PLANNING MY DAYS.

AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MR. PALMER IS NOT THERE TO SEE HIS EMAIL OR WHEN HE'S OFF THAT DAY OUT SICK AND I SEND A NOTIFICATION AND I PARK DOWNTOWN.

THEN I, AS A CITIZEN, HAVE TO GO BRING MY TICKET AND GET IT CLEARED AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

I JUST THINK THAT THAT IT'S A LACK OF TRUST AND QUESTIONING MY INTEGRITY.

AND AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT MAKES IT EASY FOR ME TO COME DOWNTOWN AND DO BUSINESS.

LS PERSONNEL AND YOU RECOGNIZED SO VERY FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS AS FOR THE TICKETS, I WAS ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE MY PARKING PASS IN MY CAR BEFORE THIS CAME INTO FACT.

AND IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS.

IT'S NOT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN THERE TO THE PARKING COMMISSION.

YOU JUST GIVE IT TO LISA AND YOU GIVE IT TO LISA.

AND LISA WILL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, I PROMISE YOU.

IT HAPPENED TO ME. SO THE NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT IS SO ESSENTIALLY THE PARKING.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING IS REALLY NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A MEANS TO PARK DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE DO.

WE CAN PARK IN THAT PARKING LOT.

THEY'RE GOING TO BLOCK OUT OUR TAGS.

AND THEN IF I GET ANOTHER CAR, IF I HAVE TWO CARS, I GET TO PARK, I GET TO OKAY.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE ACTUALLY SITTING HERE LOSING REVENUE AND LIKE I'VE TOLD I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL WEEK, I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PARKING PASS EITHER.

NOT THAT I MAKE SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE COUNCIL, $1,096 A MONTH.

I'M NOT AFRAID TO SAY IT.

THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

AND IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO SERVE AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER STREAM OF INCOME, THAT COULD VERY WELL PREVENT THEM FROM SERVING.

NOW, THIS IS MY QUESTION FOR US UP HERE.

IF THERE, LIKE OUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, IF THERE IS AN ANNUAL PASS THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE $250 FOR? WELL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AUTHORIZED AN ANNUAL PASS HAVE TO BE AUTHORIZED BY THE PARKING COMMISSION.

THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.

AND THEN WE'D GET TO THE OTHER QUESTION AFTER THAT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT COULD SOLVE EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A PASS. IT COMES OUT OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION BECAUSE I STILL HAVE MY 250 LEFT FROM LAST YEAR.

I'M JUST SAYING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON BUTLER, YOU ARE.

YOU HAVE YOUR SECOND BITE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M GOING TO GET SASSY.

SO THERE'S ALREADY A BAR TO BEING SEATED UP HERE.

IT COST ME $10,000 TO RUN MY CAMPAIGN, AND I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE SPENT MORE SO THAT THAT BAR ALREADY DOES EXIST.

AND THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WELL, SHOOT, I COULD USE THAT, BUT I'M.

THE THE ONE THING THAT I REALLY WANTED TO WE DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

WE MAKE $180.

AND I HAVE WORKED OUT I HAVE LITERALLY WORKED OUT I WAS LOGGING IN EVERY TIME I SAT DOWN TO DO E MAILS.

EVERY TIME I SAT DOWN TO LOOK AT THE AGENDA, EVERYTHING I'VE DONE THAT.

AND IT COMES OUT TO LIKE I MAKE $2.83 AN HOUR TO DO THIS JOB WITH BECAUSE EVERYBODY DOES THEIR OWN AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THIS POSITION.

THAT'S WHAT MINE WORKED OUT TO.

SO I WANTED TO I WANTED TO VERIFY OR TO CLARIFY THAT.

AND THIS IS THE SASSY PART.

THIS BODY VOTED FOR THAT PARKING GARAGE THAT THAT BODY IS TRYING TO PAY FOR.

SO. IF YOU.

I'M JUST SAYING, PAY YOUR PARKING AND CONSIDER IT A DONATION.

THANK YOU. COUNCILPERSON REDD, YOU RECOGNIZED A QUESTION FOR LANCE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP.

OR YOU JUST NOD ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

SINCE THE HEAD OF FINANCE SAID THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT THIS TO THE IRS OR WE ARE WE NOT PROHIBITED FROM VOTING ON PAY OR BENEFIT HERE.

THIS IS SORT OF A BENEFIT THAT'S NOT A CONFLICT WITH US BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING ON OUR OWN, OUR OWN PARKING.

I WAS THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN MAKING ME NERVOUS BECAUSE OF THAT CLAUSE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AN ANSWER WITHOUT GIVING SOME THOUGHT TO IT.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

YOUR COMPENSATION CANNOT BE REDUCED DURING YOUR TERM OF OFFICE.

[02:35:06]

AND THAT IS AND IT'S NOT AT ALL CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT IS COMPENSATION.

BUT IF IT IS, THEN THIS THIS WHOLE SITUATION COULD BE A PROBLEM.

YEAH. COUNCILPERSON REDD, THAT'S ALL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SEEING NO OTHER PERSON TO BE RECOGNIZED, WE'RE NOW COUNCILPERSON SMITH.

YOU RECOGNIZE? I KNOW YOU'RE READY TO GO LISTENING TO THE PROS AND CONS ABOUT THE PARKING FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

AND I'M MAINLY CONCERNED RIGHT NOW FOR US.

AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT, WELL, EVERY TIME WE NEED TO PARK, I HEARD HIM SAY WE NEED TO CALL THE AUTHORITY.

AND I. AND TO ME, THAT COULD BE A HASSLE.

IT CAN CAUSE A LOT OF CONFLICT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON THEMSELVES TRYING TO GET TO THE MEETING, TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK THAT WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A TICKET.

IT'S JUST SO MUCH OF A HASSLE.

I JUST THINK THAT US BEING ELECTED OFFICIALS TRYING TO DO A SERVICE FOR THIS CITY, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THESE PASSES OR ANNUAL PASS LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE.

I FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE WHEN I COME HERE AND I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE I'M A PARK JUST LIKE THE NIGHT.

SOMETIMES WE LEAVE HERE AT 12:00 AT NIGHT, 11:00 AT NIGHT, AND IF WE HAVE TO WALK SOMEWHERE TO GET TO PARTICIPATE, WE HAVE ONE POLICE OFFICER.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT A BURDEN.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS TO GET US TO OUR CARS.

IT'S DANGEROUS.

SO I THINK LISTENING TO THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO INVESTIGATE THIS.

AND AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT THIS.

AND DO YOU REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CALL US TO BE UNSAFE AS AS ELECTED OFFICIALS? BECAUSE WE DO KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO US.

WE HAVE SEEN ON THE NEWS WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SOME OF OUR FELLOW ELECTED OFFICIALS IN OTHER STATES.

SO THIS CAN BE DANGEROUS, YOU KNOW, AND WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE A HASSLE.

HOUSEHOLD LIFE, I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

JUST COMPLEX.

LET ME SEE. COMPLEX WAY OF TRYING TO PARK.

WE JUST WANT TO JUST GET HERE, DO OUR JOB, AND GO HOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR ON THIS GREAT BIG BOOK OF EVERYTHING.

ALL RIGHT, JUST HOLD ON.

SO IT'S ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 17, SUBSECTION B AND SUBSECTION EIGHT DEALS WITH THE MAYOR, AND IT SAYS THE EXACT SAME THING.

AND THE KEY PHRASE IS AT THE END, IT SAYS, AND SUCH COMPENSATION SHALL NOT BE ALTERED DURING SUCH COUNCILMAN'S TERM OF OFFICE.

SO IT'S NOT ONLY IT CAN'T BE REDUCED, BUT IT CAN'T BE INCREASED EITHER.

YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.

SO THAT BEGS THE QUESTION, WELL, WHAT IS COMPENSATION? ULTIMATELY, IF THERE WERE TO BE A LEGAL CASE, A LAWSUIT ABOUT THIS, THE COURTS WOULD DECIDE WHAT COMPENSATION MEANS IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE WE WOULD HAVE A LAWSUIT ABOUT IT.

IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, I WOULD DEFER TO MISS MOTTA'S OPINION BASED ON WHAT THE IRS HOW THEY WOULD DEFINE COMPENSATION.

BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE THE DECISION THAT'S DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BY THE PARKING COMMISSION WITH REGARD TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WHETHER IT'S TAKING SOMETHING AWAY OR GIVING SOMETHING COULD IMPLICATE ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 17, SUBSECTION B.

THANK YOU, MR. BAKER.

WE ARE NOW READY FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS.

ANY MEMBER HAVE A COMMENT.

[12) MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS]

HOME OWNERSHIP APPLICATION AT THE HABITAT IS OPEN ONLINE FROM ONE FEBRUARY THROUGH THE 28TH OF FEBRUARY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CLARKSVILLE HEALTHY YARDS.

IF YOU'RE FREE FEBRUARY 4TH FROM 9 TO 10 AT APPS YOU.

WE'RE HAVING A WINTER PLANTING EVENT.

WE ALREADY HAVE 90 PEOPLE REGISTERED BUT IT'S A SHORT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM ABOUT HEALTHY YARDS AND PLANTING IN THE JUGS.

AND THEN THE WOMEN'S SHELTER IS ALSO THE BOARD IS HAVING A EXPLORE THE BAHAMAS ON A PRIVATE YACHT RAFFLE TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL WOMEN'S SHELTER. SO YOU CAN FIND THAT ONLINE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A COMMENT?

[02:40:05]

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT ZONING, MR. SHELTON, YOU CAN APPROACH AND YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES.

[13) PUBLIC COMMENTS]

YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES. SIR, IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME FIRST.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DAVID SHELTON.

I LIVE AT 135 WEST PARK.

I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY WEARING THREE HATS TONIGHT.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE ROXY BOARD FOR ME FOR BEING HERE AND SUPPORTING OF EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ALSO.

AND I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO.

TO SAY, YIKES, WHAT A DECISION.

OKAY, TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING PASSAGE, I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.

AND WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAVE SAID, MANY OF THOSE HAVE HAD THOSE PARKING COMMISSION PARKING PASSES SINCE THEY'VE BEEN IN OFFICE.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, JOE CREAGH, HOW MANY DECADES HAS HE BEEN THERE? SO THIS IS KIND OF A THING THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.

AND MOST.

ABOUT HALF OF OUR COMMISSIONERS LIVE OUT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.

THEY HAVE TO COME IN TOWN IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO WORK, TO CONDUCT THE MEETING, EVEN IF IT'S JUST MEETING A CONSTITUENT AT THE BLACK HORSE OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.

SO THERE THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK AND EFFORT THAT I HAVE TO COME IN FOR THEM TO COME INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO DO BUSINESS FOR THE COUNTY.

AND THERE'S A TREMENDOUS.

I GOT A FEW FOLKS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, SO I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

AS COUNCILPERSON REYNOLDS HAS SAID, THE MONEY IS THE PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE ARE WORKING FOR THE COUNTY, WE ARE WORKING FOR THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, JUST AS YOU ARE WORKING FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT.

I MEAN, I AGREE WITH STACY.

SHE SAID THAT I MEAN, REALLY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT I DON'T COME DOWNTOWN VERY OFTEN.

IF I WANT TO HANG A BLIND DOWNTOWN, I MIGHT DO THAT.

AND I'M GOING TO PAY PARKING JUST LIKE A WILL ANY.

WELL, BUT IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE.

IF THE PRINCIPLE OF FACT WE ARE SERVING THE THE PEOPLE OF CLARKSVILLE AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND BY DOING SO, THE PARKING PRIVILEGES, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT HELPS ALONG THAT PROCESS.

SO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND I WOULD VERY MUCH ASK FOR YOU GUYS TO JOIN WITH US TO JOIN THE PEOPLE ON.

TO ASK MY MEMBER, THE MEMBERS OF THE PARKING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THIS.

SO NOW, HI, I'M ON THE PARKING COMMISSION.

SO MAY APPEAR YOU ASKED ME TO BE ON THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND I DON'T THINK YOU TOLD ME ABOUT ANY OF THIS.

YOU DIDN'T READ THE FINE PRINT.

AND THE BEAUTY OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT WE HAVE ALL WORKED VERY HARD TO TRY TO TAKE A SITUATION THAT DID NOT MAKE SENSE AND TO TRY TO MAKE SENSE. AND THAT'S THE ONE THING I ALWAYS ASK, WHETHER IT'S ON THE COMMISSION OR ON THE PARKING COMMISSION, CAN WE MAKE IT MAKE SENSE, WHETHER IT BE A PRIVILEGE, WHETHER IT BE SOMETHING I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE CUMBERLAND PARKING GARAGE.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THIS PROBLEM WITH WITH MY KNEES OR WALKING IS HARD.

AND WHEN WALKING IS HARD, THE FURTHER YOU HAVE TO WALK, THE MORE PAINFUL IT BECOMES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED, THE CLARKSVILLE IS NOT THAT FLAT AND THAT REALLY MATTERS.

AND SO PARKING IS AN ISSUE NO MATTER WHERE WE GO.

AND IT MAKES IT HARD TO WORK WITH THESE THINGS IF WE CAN'T GET THERE.

SO SO I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT I CAN'T VOTE ON THIS AT A PARKING MEMBER OF THE PARKING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VOTING FOR SOMETHING FOR MYSELF. AND I HAVE ABSTAINED OF EVERY ONE OF THESE.

AND I'VE ALWAYS ASKED, CAN WE CONSIDER THIS? BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE ARE WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE SAME PEOPLE OF CLARKSVILLE AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE AREAS.

I DON'T EVEN LIKE CALLING IT A PERK BECAUSE PARALLEL PARKING IS NOT A PERK FOR ANYONE.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYONE THAT CAME AND SUPPORTED LGBTQ FORM THAT WE HAD ON TUESDAY NIGHT.

WONDERFUL ATTENDANCE.

WE HAD AN AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE.

WE HAD MEMBERS OF THIS BODY HERE, WE HAD MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THERE, AND WE ALL LEARNED WHAT WE HAD TO OFFER FOR OUR COMMUNITY OF THE LGBTQ, LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT, MAYOR PITTS AND EVERYONE, THANK YOU.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, WE ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.