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[1. PLANNING COMMISSION]
THIS IS THE CLARKSVILLE CITY COUNCIL EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2020.YOU HAVE YOUR AGENDAS IN FRONT OF YOU.
THIS MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED IN PERSON VIA GOOGLE MEETS AND LIVE STREAMED ON CITYOFCLARKSVILLE.COM IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER, REGARDING HOLDING OPEN MEETINGS IN A FORM OTHER THAN IN THE OPEN AND IN PUBLIC.
THIS GOVERNING BODY DETERMINES THAT MEETING ELECTRONICALLY IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF ITS CITIZENS DUE TO THE COVID-19 OUTBREAK.
SO, WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT.
WE HAVE -- THE FIRST ITEM IS ABANDONMENT.
MR. TINDALL, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
MR. TINDALL: GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW NUMBERS TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL TRY TO MAKE THEM AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE WHERE WE CAN.
FIRST ONE TONIGHT IS AN ABANDONMENT REQUEST BY MR. JAMES CORLEW SENIOR.
THIS IS AN AREA SOME WOULD KNOW AS MORRIS ALLEY.
IT'S REALLY JUST BEEN A PARKING LOT THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
IT'S OFF COLLEGE STREET AND EIGHTH STREET, DOWNTOWN AREAS SHADED ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE.
HERE'S THE AERIAL PHOTO OF IT.
AND WE'VE MARKED IN BLUE WHERE THAT ALLEY IS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN ALMOST INDISTINGUISH IT FROM THE PARKING LOTS ADJACENT TO IT.
IF YOU'VE BEEN BY THIS AREA RECENTLY, THE THREE BUILDINGS TO THE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT HAVE BEEN ALL DEMOLISHED RECENTLY.
THOUGH THE ONLY BUILDING REMAINING IS NICOLETTA'S FOR LANDMARK, WHICH IS THE BUILDING THERE WITH A RED ROOF.
EVERY PROPERTY AROUND THIS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OWNERS OF NICOLETTA'S IS MR. CORLEW.
AND HE'S WORKING OUT A PRIVATE DEAL WITH THE OWNERS OF THE NICOLETTA'S BUILDING FOR SOME SORT OF ACCESS TO THE REAR OF THAT PROPERTY.
AND HERE'S A STREET VIEW OF IT.
AGAIN, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN PAST THIS, YOU PROBABLY JUST THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE DRIVEWAY, BUT IT'S TECHNICALLY A RIGHT OF WAY.
AS PART OF THE ABANDONMENT PROCESS WHATEVER TOUCHES, WHICHEVER PROPERTY IT GETS DIVVIED UP TO EACH OWNER PROPORTIONATELY TO THEIR PROPERTY THAT IT TOUCHES.
I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AT THIS TIME.
COUNSEL LADY SMITH: HELLO MAYOR.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN HOLLEMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
COUNCILMAN HOLLEMAN: SO, THE WAY IT'S DIVVIED UP, WOULD THAT REQUIRE LIKE A NEW SURVEY OR WOULD IT JUST-- COUNSEL LADY SMITH: CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING, MA'AM.
I THINK Y'ALL SHOWING A PICTURE OF SOMETHING, BUT I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
COUNCILMAN HOLLEMAN, IF YOU'LL HOLD ON A MINUTE.
COUNSEL LADY SMITH, YOU CAN'T HEAR US? WELL, WHY AM I ASKING HER IF SHE CAN'T HEAR.
(LAUGHING) I WITHDRAW THE QUESTION.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: I CAN HEAR NOW.
YOU CAN HEAR US? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: I HEAR YOU NOW.
CAN YOU SEE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: I SEE YOU.
(COUNCIL LADY SMITH LAUGHING) CAN YOU -- ANY ADVICE AMY OR TREY? (COUNSEL LADY SMITH FAINTLY SPEAKING) COUNCIL LADY SMITH, CAN YOU SEE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT ON THE SCREEN YET? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: [LAUGHING] NOPE, NO SIR, I SEE YOU.
OKAY, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: [LAUGHING] OKAY, THANK YOU.
IS THERE SOMETHING YOU CAN TAP THAT HAS THE PRESENTATION ON A SMALLER WINDOW MAYBE IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER? COUNCIL, LADY SMITH.
DID YOU HEAR TREY? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: OKAY, HE WANTS ME TO TAP THE THING THAT LOOKED LIKE A PIECE OF PAPER WITH LINES.
IS THAT WHAT HE WANT ME TO TAP? NO, NOT THAT ONE.
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? TREY DESCRIBE IT.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: YEAH, OKAY ALL RIGHT HOLD ON, I GOT IT.
CAN YOU SEE IT? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: I SEE THAT RATE, YES, SIR.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: RED BAR AROUND THE LAND, YES.
NOW WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU, SO...
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: YOU CAN BARELY HEAR ME,
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OKAY, HOLD ON.COUNCIL LADY SMITH: CAN YOU HEAR ME GOOD NOW? IT'S A LITTLE BETTER.
STILL NOT, YOU'RE NOT QUITE AS AUDIBLE AS YOU CAN.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: WHAT ABOUT NOW MAYOR? THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER.
I HAVE MY VOLUME TURNED ALL THE WAY UP.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: OKAY, THANKS.
OKAY, BACK TO COUNCILMAN HOLLEMAN'S, SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION, SIR.
COUNCILMAN HOLLEYMAN: THAT'S OKAY.
SO, HOW WOULD THAT BE DIVVIED UP? SO, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE THREE SURVEYED, LIKE QUICK CLAIMS? I MEAN, HOW WOULD THAT, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT DOING THAT? SURE SO, IT MIGHT BE, I SEE IT ON THE FIRST SLIDE HERE.
EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY LINES.
THE AREAS THAT TOUCH EACH PROPERTY, HISTORICALLY THE OWNER HAS GOTTEN A HALF.
THERE'S BEEN OTHER ABANDONMENT'S WHERE THEY GET ALL OF IT, BECAUSE OF CERTAIN REASONS OR ANOTHER.
AFTER WE APPROVE IT, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE THAT IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A RESOLUTION, THEN IT GOES TO THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND THEY HANDLE IT FROM HERE.
I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER ON HOW THEY DO IT BUT THERE IS A SURVEY AND A DEED PORTION TO WRAPPING IT UP.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HOLLEMAN.
COUNCILMAN ERB, YOUR RECOGNIZED.
COUNCILMAN ERB: THANK YOU, MAYOR.
IS THERE ANY WATER LINES, SEWER LINES UNDER THE GROUND THERE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THERE IS A WATER LINE AND THERE WILL BE AN EASEMENT AND RETAINED ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE WATER LINE.
SORRY, I FAILED TO MENTION THAT.
COUNCILMAN BURKHART, YOUR RECOGNIZED.
THIS MR. CORLETT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ALLEY-- I BOUGHT ONE PARCEL, WHICH IS NICOLETTA'S.
OKAY SO, THAT PARCEL DOES NICOLETTA OWNED THAT PIECE OR-- THEY OWN UP TO IT.
SO, THEORETICALLY THEY WOULD GET A HALF WIDTH OF THAT PORTION OF IT BACK THERE, BUT NOT ALL THE WAY UP TO IT, BUT HE DOES ON LEFT AND RIGHT ON BOTH SIDES.
OKAY, THANK YOU SERGEANT GAIL, COULD YOU LET WE GOT A COUNCIL MEMBER NEEDING IN THE FRONT DOOR.
ANYTHING ELSE COUNCILMAN BURKHART? NO, SIR.
OKAY, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION ON THE ABANDONMENT OF THIS ALLEY? SEEING NONE, WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCES 30-2020-21.
WE HAVE ONE DEFERRAL SO, LET ME PASS THAT THIS APPLICATION, FEEDBACK HERE.
THIS APPLICATION IS OF CODY AND LINDSEY HEGGIE.
IT'S OUR APPLICATION NUMBER Z-36-2020.
THE AGENT IS SID HEDRICK IT'S POINT 0.69 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED O-1.
YEAH, IT'S NOT AN EXPANSION OF THE C-2, WHAT WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A SECOND.
IT FRONTS ON MADISON STREET APPROXIMATELY 725 FEET SOUTHEAST OF MADISON AND LIBERTY PARK INTERSECTION.
THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL WARD, NUMBER NINE.
IT'S AN EXISTING LONG NARROW PARCEL WITH A FORMER HOME THAT HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO A BUSINESS OFFICE.
THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENT OF USE, IS FOR A PRIVATE BEAUTY AND SPA STUDIO.
I'LL GET A LITTLE TECHNICAL HERE FOR A SECOND.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE PINK HERE, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE FUNERAL HOME OUT THERE.
O-1 IN THE CITY LIMITS DOES NOT ALLOW BARBER OR SALON OR SPA AS A APPROPRIATE USE, C-5 OR C-2 WOULD.
THE APPLICANT CAME AND TALKED TO US ABOUT WHICH USE WILL BE MOST APPROPRIATE.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, WE HAVE A MIX OF EVERYTHING IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
EVERYTHING FROM R-4, R-3, O-1, O-2, AND C-2 AND C-5.
WE TOLD THEM LONG TERM C-2 WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
IT HAS SOME OF THE LESS INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR LONGTERM POTENTIAL MIXED USE IF THAT'S WHERE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GOES, AS THAT WILL ALSO ALLOW THEM TO DO THEIR BEAUTY SALON AND SPA.
HERE'S THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, OUR SIGN HAS BEEN OUT THERE THIS WEEK.
IF YOU'VE SEEN IT, THIS IS LOOKING FROM MADISON STREET BACK UP THE DRIVEWAY, THE PROPERTY'S SET BACK PRETTY FAR.
THERE'S THE FUNERAL HOME RIGHT NEXT STORE.
AND LOOKING UP MADISON STREET PROPERTY IS ON YOUR LEFT.
THIS HAD A PREVIOUS ZONING HISTORY BACK IN 1999 IS WHEN IT WAS R-1 TO O-1.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
IT'S IN THE HILLDALE PLANNING AREA.
THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR ALLOWING TO THE LAND USE PLAN, AND THE MADISON STREET CORRIDOR DESIGN OVERLAY GOALS.
THE PROPOSED C-2 REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES, AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME.
PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ZONING ORDINANCE NUMBER 30.
WE ARE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 31-2020-21, MR. THENDALL.
THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF SANDRA TAYLOR, ROSLYN GREEN AND ROBERT DARDEN.
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THE AGENT IS REX HAWKINS.THIS IS OUR CASE NUMBER Z-37-2020.
THIS IS 25.98 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED AG, REQUESTING TO GO TO R-2.
AND IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE R-2, TO THE NORTH.
FOR SOME OF YOU ON COUNCIL FROM TWO YEARS AGO, THIS WILL BE FAMILIAR.
THE PREVIOUS ZONING HISTORY WAS Z-21-2018, WHERE IT WAS DENIED AT THE TIME AT CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS IN CITY WARD 12, IT'S A WOODED TRACT WITH VARYING TOPOGRAPHY.
AND THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENT IS TO MATCH THE ADJACENT R-2 ZONING.
THIS IS THE ENTRANCE FROM ASPEN GROVE, WHERE YOU HAD THE SEPARATED LANES, THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE AROUND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET, AND UP A LITTLE BIT WOULD REQUIRE, FOR THE TIME BEING, IT'S OWN TURNING LANES LIKE YOU DO HAVE FOR ASPEN GROVE.
KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS PART OF A LONGTERM TRENTON ROAD IMPROVEMENT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
THE CHURCH AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, IT'S ALL BEHIND THIS PROPERTY.
SO, THERE'S THE CHURCH, AND THEN OFF TO THE BOTH THE RIGHT AND THE REAR OF THE CHURCH IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
IT ALSO TOUCHES THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER THIS PICTURE FROM LAST TIME WHERE CHANNELVIEW AND BLEEDS CRESTVIEW ROADS COME TOGETHER, THERE'S A PRIVATE WALL THAT WAS BUILT ACROSS THE RIGHT OF WAY OUT THERE AND THE STREET DEPARTMENT HAS NOTED THAT.
FOR NOTE, AND IT'S, WE TAKE THESE PICTURES BEFORE OUR SIGNS GET OUT THERE, BUT THE SIGN HAS BEEN AFFIXED TO THAT WALL ALL WEEK, ALERTING THE PUBLIC OF THE ZONING.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A SIGN ON TRENTON ROAD FOR THIS ONE.
CITY GAS AND WATER MENTIONED IT MAY REQUIRE A SEWER SYSTEM UPGRADE.
THE STREET DEPARTMENT REFERENCED THE RETAINING WALL IN THE ROAD.
A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS REQUIRED AND WAS SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED.
AND I WILL SAY THAT TRAFFIC STATEMENT, THOUGH IT'S BAD.
IT IS NOT AT A FAILING RATE YET, IT'S CLOSE BUT NOT FAILING.
NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS WERE RECEIVED.
THE ESTIMATED YIELD WOULD BE 74 UNITS APPROXIMATELY 200 PEOPLE.
THAT'S IN THE TRENTON ROAD PLANNING AREA, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN.
IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE R-2 SINGLE FAMILY ZONING TO THE NORTH AND THE PROPOSED R-2 DISTRICT DOES NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AREA AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED RELATIVE TO THIS REQUEST.
PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING ORDINANCE 31.
COUNCILMAN NORRIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
WHEN YOU GET THE SITE REVIEW ON THIS POINT, ARE YOU PLANNING ON ASKING FOR THAT RETAINING WALL TO BE MOVED AND A STUB STREET BE PUT IN THAT PLACE.
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THAT WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THAT CONNECTION BE MADE.
THAT WALL, JUST BECAUSE IT'S THERE, DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THE FACT THAT THE STUB STREET WAS PUT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IT WASN'T DONE AS PART OF THE STREET IMPROVEMENT.
IT WAS DONE BY PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, SO.
AND THEY GOT PERMISSION FROM THE STREET DEPARTMENT-- NO ONE RECEIVED ANY PERMISSION.
IS IT, DARK PALETTE BEHIND, IS THAT THE REASON THEY PUT IT THERE? NOT AS HIGH AS YOU'D THINK, BUT THERE COULD BE THERE IS SOME GREAT ISSUES.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE ONE DEVELOPMENT STARTED THIS WAS NOT PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT FUTURE PHASE AT THE TIME, BUT IT'S NOTHING THAT CAN'T GET GRADED OUT.
MR. TINDALL I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN NORRIS, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND JUST SO WE CAN.
WE GET A LOT, I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK OVER HERE.
HE JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BURKHART.
MAYOR, I JUST LIKE THEM WANT TO KNOW I'M A PARTNER ON THIS VENTURE AND I JUST WONDER IF I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SO, I WILL BE ABSTAINING ON THIS PHONE, THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 31? WE ARE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 32-2020-21, MR. TINDALL.
I THINK COUNCILMAN OR MAYBE-- OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY SIR, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
YOU GOT TWO LETTERS THAT DISAGREE WITH THE DECISION FOR THE ZONING.
IN YOUR PACKET, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ONE LETTER IN FAVOR OF THIS AND THEN THREE LETTERS AGAINST THIS.
ARE IN, MOST OF THE LETTERS THEY SAY IT DOES NOT ADHERE TO THE 24-2040 ADOPTED GROWTH PLAN.
OKAY, THE GROWTH PLAN AND THE LAND USE PLAN ARE TWO DIFFERENT PLANS.
THE GROWTH PLAN WHICH, AND I SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK ON THAT LAST LETTER THEY ACTUALLY SHOWED A COPY
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OF THE TRANSPORTATION LAND USE CYCLE.THE LAND USE PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE LAND YOU SPOKE IN INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.
THE GROWTH PLAN IS ONLY FOR LAND USE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS ABOUT HOW FAR THE DENSITY CAN GO.
SO, THE GROWTH PLAN DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO THE CITY LIMITS IN TERMS OF WHERE DEVELOPMENT GOES.
HOWEVER, THEY DID PICK UP ON ONE OF THE PLANNING THEORIES THAT WE USE WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH PLAN.
AND THAT IS THE TRANSPORTATION LAND USE CYCLE WHICH SAYS, AS TRAFFIC IMPROVES LAND BECOMES MORE AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THEN IT GETS MORE CROWDED BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE MOVE TO IT BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO GET TO.
AND THEN YOU END UP JUST KEEP IMPROVING AND EXPANDING THE ROADS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT JUST ENCOURAGES MORE CONNECTIONS AND MORE MULTIMODAL TRANSIT WHEN YOU CAN.
SO, I REALLY DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS IN A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE GROWTH PLAN, BUT IT IS IN DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT PLANNING THEORY OF, THE TRANSPORTATION LAND USE CYCLE.
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN ERB, ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, NOW WE'RE READY FOR ORDINANCE 32-2020-21, MR. THENDALL.
THIS IS OUR APPLICATION Z-38-2020.
IT'S THE APPLICATION OF WILLIAM SCOGGIN IN VIRGINIA SCOGGIN.
A 0.659 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED R-3 REQUESTING TO GO TO R-4.
YOU HAD A ZONING CASE IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS JUST ACROSS THE STREET HERE ON SHELBY STREET.
IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE R-4 TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST, THE PROPERTY FRONT SHELBY STREET APPROXIMATELY 445 FEET NORTH OF SHELBY STREET AND PROVIDENCE BOULEVARD INTERSECTION.
CITY WARD NUMBER FOUR, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A MULTIPLE HOMES AND STRUCTURES ON IT WILL BE CLEARED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AND THE REQUEST IS TO MATCH THE NEIGHBORING ZONING.
THERE'LL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AS YOU GO INTO SHELBY STREET, THE OTHER PROPERTY WAS ON THE LEFT SIDE.
AND THIS IS GETTING TO BE A POPULAR AREA OUT HERE.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN PHONE CALLS BACK BETWEEN DOVER CROSSING AND DOWNTOWN RECENTLY.
THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COMMENTS ARE INCLUDED.
AS A HISTORICAL ESTIMATE WOULD BE EIGHT UNITS OF APARTMENTS ON THIS R-4 PIECE OF PROPERTY, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUESTS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN.
ZONE CHANGES AND EXTENSION OF OUR FORE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.
THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN STATES THAT IT'S ENCOURAGED TO MAINTAIN A DESIRABLE MIX OF HOUSING TYPES IN THE COMMUNITY, AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME.
PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ORDINANCE 32? COUNCILMAN CHANDLER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR.
MY IT'S NOT, IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT.
IF I COULD GET HIM TO BACK UP TO THE PICTURES PLEASE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO TAKE NOTICE.
AGAIN I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND ONE, WE'VE HAD IN A FEW MONTHS.
AND I AM APPLAUDING THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DECIDED TO COME IN HERE AND HELP US IMPROVE THIS AREA.
THIS IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN, GOOD POINT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ORDINANCE 32? COUNCIL LADY SMIT: I'D MAKE A COMMENT THERE.
ALL RIGHT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNCIL LADY SMITH.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: DO YOU THINK THEY COULD ADD SIDE WALKS IN THAT AREA? 'CAUSE IT IS NOW DEMOLISHED DOWN AT THE OTHER DAY.
I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MR. THENDALL.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WITH THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ANALYZING WHAT TO DO WITH SIDEWALK ON SMALL PROJECTS LIKE THIS GOING FORWARD.
BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT DEPENDING WHEN IT APPLIES THAT WE WOULD GET SIDEWALK, AT LEAST IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, HARD TO JUSTIFY IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HIGHWAY.
BUT WE'LL ADDRESS THAT WHEN IT COMES IN WITH A SITE PLAN.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: OKAY, THANK YOU.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: YES SIR.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING ORDINANCE 32? COUNCILMAN ALLEN.
SO, IS THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE YOU GOT A HALF ACRE, AND TRY TO MAKE HIM PUT OUT, SIDEWALKS ALL THE WAY OUT, BUT HOW DOES THAT WORK? I'M JUST TRYING TO.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE STREET DEPARTMENT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
THE CITY SIDEWALK ORDINANCE SAYS SIDEWALK CAN BE REQUIRED AT ANY TIME.
YOU'VE GOT A SITE PLAN, A SUBDIVISION OR A GRADING PERMIT, LONG STANDING POLICIES THEN THAT WE JUST DON'T DO IT ON REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BUT MAY BECOME THE TIME WHERE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS IF YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS THAT CONNECTION OR A, THIS MAKES A KEY CONNECTION OR START SIDEWALK IN THE AREA, IT MAY BE THE TIME TO LOOK AT THAT.
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BUT YOU NORMALLY DON'T DO IT ON A...ON AN EXISTING ROADS THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALK, IT HAS BEEN THE LONGSTANDING POLICY THAT IT HASN'T BEEN DONE.
IT'S BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW.
AMEN BROTHER, LET THE CHURCH SAY AMEN.
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO GET IT STARTED.
BUT I UNDERSTAND NOT ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE ROAD.
IT'S JUST A HALF ACRE, BUT IF HE HAD A BIGGER SITE THAT'D BE FOUR AND PUTTING IT ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE ROAD.
BUT JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL SITE, IT JUST WOULDN'T BE COST EFFECTIVE TO PUT SIDE WALK THAT FAR OUT, WE WON'T...
AND WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THINGS LIKE THE DRAINAGE OUT THERE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTER.
IT MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER TO PUT SIDEWALK OUT THERE.
BUT THERE ARE SOME PLACES I JUST TRY TO IMAGINE WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE ON WILMA RUDOLPH OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
IF WE HAD GOTTEN SIDEWALK BIT BY BIT OVER THERE, THE STATE WOULD JUST HAVE TO COME IN AND FILL IN THE GAPS VERSUS DOING AN ENTIRE PROJECT UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S JUST MAYBE THE ACCRUE CONSIDERING HIM AND BRINGS HIM BACK TO US.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW LIKE I SAID, CASE BY CASE, IT'S JUST KINDA ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S ONE GUY MIGHT SAY WELL I IN FIELD AND YOU SAY, I NEED THE SIDEWALK BUT-- IT'S COMING.
(LAUGHING) YEAH YOU MADE ME PUT THAT WALKS AND IT MAY BE A VERY GOOD REASON, BUT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE CONSISTENT, YEAH.
I'M GONNA TRY TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
IN THE OLDER PARTS YOU HAVE UTILITY POLES, YOU HAVE WATER SEWER, GAS, WHATEVER THE UTILITIES ARE THAT ARE, NORMALLY RIGHT THERE AT THE EDGE OF THE ROAD.
SO, IF YOU PUT A SIDEWALK THERE THAT JUST NEXT TIME GAS FROM WATER HAS A LEAK PATCHES KINDA COMPOUNDS THAT PROBLEM.
I WISH SHE WAS THERE, BUT IT ALMOST HAS TO BE DONE WITH GAS AND WATER IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT, ALMOST A CARBON GUTTER.
EVERYTHING ALMOST HAS TO GO AT THE SAME TIME OR YOU CAN GET YOURSELF BACKED INTO A CORNER AND START SPENDING MONEY.
IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO WORK IN A LONGTERM.
SO, JUST KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A.
BUT ON THE NEW R-4 STUFF THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS ALL OF THOSE ARE REQUIRED AND ALL OF THOSE HAVE SIDEWALKS.
SO, JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, THIS IS ONLY GOING BACK TO THE SEF WHERE THE REDEVELOPMENT IS A LITTLE HARDER TO DO.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT ABOUT AN ORDINANCE 32? HEARING NONE WERE READY FOR ORDINANCE 33-2020-21.
A PLANNING COMMISSION CASE NUMBER Z-39-2020.
THIS IS THE APPLICATION OF WIND PROPERTIES LP.
THE AGENT IS CRAB HOMES, JOHN CRAB.
ACREAGE IS 8.86 ACRES, AND IT IS A C-4 REQUESTING TO GO TO R-4.
IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FIRE STATION ROAD AND TROUGH SPRINGS ROAD BEHIND A LOT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING OUT THERE RECENTLY.
SO, AS WE LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP ON THIS ONE, IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE C-4 IN THIS AREA OF 76 COMES DOWN PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM THE INTERSTATE.
C-4 IS TYPICALLY ONLY SEEING WITH ABOUT 1000 AND 1500 FEET OF THE INTERSTATE RAMPS BUT IT DOES EXTEND ALL THE WAY THIS FAR DOWN.
C-4 DOES ALLOW HOTELS, MOTELS, TRUCK STOPS, LARGER TRUCK REFUELING AND AUTOBODY.
SOME OF THE MORE HEAVIER HIGHWAY INDUSTRIES YOU WOULD HAVE A THINK ABOUT, BUT IT DOES ALSO SUPPORT WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN OUT THERE RECENTLY WITH THE PUBLIC'S THE STRIP CENTER UP AT FIRE STATION IN THE NEWER BUILDINGS OFF WHEN WAY LIKE THE FIRESTONE, AUTO CARE AND OTHER THINGS.
SO, THIS C-4 DOESN'T FRONT 76 ACTUALLY FRONTS TROUGH SPRINGS ROAD WITH A TINY PIECE THAT FRONTS FIRE STATION.
AND THAT'S LIKELY DUE TO OVERTIME THAT THE MAIN PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE SUBDIVIDED IT OFF SLOWLY PIECE BY PIECE.
IT PROBABLY HAD FULL FRONTAGE ON FIRE STATION ROAD AT ONE TIME.
CURRENTLY IT'S A GRASSLAND FIELD WITH A WOODED AREA AND IT DOES HAVE A SINKHOLE.
THE LAND IS MORE SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S THE APPLICANT STATEMENT.
HERE'S THE INTERSECTION OF FIRE STATION ROAD, LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AT THE CORNER THERE.
HERE'S THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY, GENERALLY DECENT LAY OF LAND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT SINKHOLE, WHICH IS THE TREES KIND OF WHERE THAT PINK SIGN OR WHATEVER THAT IS OUT THERE, IS THESE ARE SOME OF THE BUSINESSES ON FIRE STATION ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THESE, BUT THE SINKHOLE BACKS UP TO THESE.
SO, THOSE TREES WILL LIKELY REMAIN THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
AND THIS IS TROST SPRINGS ROAD WITH THE NURSERY ON YOUR LEFT, LOOKING BACK AT THE PROPERTY THAT RIGHT AFTER THE NURSERY ENDS, THEN THIS PROPERTY BEGINS.
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AND THERE IT IS FURTHER DOWN TRUST SPRINGS ROAD.THIS IS IN CITY WARD NUMBER 10.
DEPARTMENT OF COMMENTS OF NOTES GOT SOME WATER SAID MAY REQUIRE OFFSITE SEWER IMPROVEMENTS.
A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED BY THE STREET DEPARTMENT.
IT DID NOTE THAT IT WAS A OVERALL REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC.
HOWEVER, THE DIFFERENT PEAKS BECAUSE OF RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL DOES CHANGE IT.
BUT OVERALL IT'S A REDUCTION IN DAILY TRAFFIC DRAINAGE NOTED THE SINKHOLE ONSITE.
SCHOOL SYSTEM PROVIDED COMMENTS ON THE CAPACITY OF SANGO RICHVIEW IN CLARKSVILLE HIGH.
HISTORICAL ESTIMATES WOULD BE 106 UNITS.
BECAUSE OF THAT SINKHOLE, WE MAY SEE THAT DROP JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROPERTY.
IT IS IN THE SANGO PLANNING AREA.
THE PROPOSAL, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE PLAN.
THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN STATES THAT IT'S ENCOURAGED TO IN A DESIRABLE MIX OF HOUSING TYPES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THE PROPOSED R-4 IS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL USES THAN THE CURRENT C-4 ZONING AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES SITE.
NOTE VERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED AT THIS REQUEST AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
COUNCIL, LADY STREETMAN YOUR RECOGNIZED.
AS MR. THENDALL STATED, THIS IS IN ORTON, WHICH IS MY WARD AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA.
I TOO AGREE THAT THIS MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO HAVE THERE AS YOU COULD SEE FROM THE PICTURES THAT WE LOOKED AT, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT ALONG THERE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE, YOU ALREADY HAVE ABBY LYNN CIRCLE, RIGHT THERE IT'S WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THIS ONE TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION AND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.
I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS, AND I ASK THAT YOU DO THE SAME, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU COUNCIL LADY STREETMAN.
ANY OTHER MEMBER HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ORDINANCE 33? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT IN THERE.
OKAY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNCIL LADY SMITH.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: THANK YOU.
MR. THENDALL IS IN ANY WAY, DON'T BE RESIDENTIAL.
CAN WE GET SIDEWALKS AND MAKE SURE SIDEWALKS UP IMPLEMENTED ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, TRUCKS, PRETTY ROAD IS A NARROW ROAD.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: IF WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING A FAMILY OR CHOOSING A FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT WE NEED TO ALWAYS IMPLEMENT IF WE CAN SIDEWALKS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN WALKING TO AND FRO AND THE STALL OR WHEREVER EVEN GOING TO SCHOOL THAT WAY.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING SIDEWALKS.
PUT MORE, WE'VE GONE TO DEAL THIS UNITS, FOR APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOUSES OR WHATEVER.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE ROADS SAFE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN.
THANK YOU, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE WE WOULD TAKE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
THE ADVANTAGE WE HAVE HERE IS THAT IT DOES CONNECT TO WHAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD KNOWN AS KATIE LANE.
THAT'S BEHIND THE DOMINOS AND SMOKING CHICKEN UP THERE BETWEEN THAT AND THE DAYCARE THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY.
WE WOULD AND WE'VE SEEN AN INITIAL LAYOUT OF THIS PROPERTY.
THOUGH, INSTEAD OF GETTING SIDEWALK ALL UP FIRE STATION ROAD, IF WE COULD GET A CONNECTION OUT THE BACK TO WHERE THE COMMERCIAL IS.
YOU GOTTA LOOK AT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK TO.
AND WALKING DOWN TROUGH SPRINGS ROAD, THERE'S ONLY, I BELIEVE A GROOMING AND A DOG CARE ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
WE'D BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING THEM TOWARDS WHERE THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES ARE AND AT LEAST HAVING AN INTERNAL CIRCULATION THAT GETS YOU OUT THE BACK.
R-4 CAN BE DEVELOPED IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
ONE THEY CAN BRING IN A PUBLIC ROAD AND HAVE INDIVIDUAL APARTMENTS ON IT.
OR IN THIS CASE IT'S LIKELY GOING TO BE A PRIVATE ROAD WITH PARKING AND PARKING LOTS CLUBHOUSE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO, WE WOULD LOOK MORE FOR EITHER A GATE OR A PATH THAT LED OUT OF IT TOWARD THE OTHER COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA ALLOWING THEM TO POSSIBLY SAVE A TRIP OR TWO WHEN THEY WANT TO GO GET SOMETHING TO EAT OR GET SOMETHING OF THE SERVICES OUT THERE.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: OKAY, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ORDINANCE 33? HEARING NONE SEEING NONE.
WE'RE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 34-2020-21, MR. THENDALL.
THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION CASES Z-40-2020.
IT'S THE APPLICATION OF MORGAN INCORPORATED.
CURRENTLY ZONED R-1 PROPOSED TO BE R-2.
IT IS AN EXTENSION OF R-2 TO THE NORTHWEST AND THE SOUTH.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF HAWKINS ROAD AND EAST JOHNSON CIRCLE, ALSO FRONTS THE WEST FRONTAGE OF THE EDMONDSON FERRY ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 575 FEET NORTHEAST OF HAWKINS ROAD, EDMONDSON ROAD INTERSECTION.
AND IT ALSO TERMINATES AT BERRY DRIVE.
IT'S BEEN A FAIRLY POPULAR AREA
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IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS HERE AT CITY COUNCIL.YOU HAVE A COUPLE OTHER ZONING CASES THAT ARE EITHER UP FOR CONSIDERATION OR HAVE BEEN VOTED ON IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
THIS IS IN CITY WARD 7, AND IT'S A SEMI WOODED IRREGULAR SHAPED LOT WITH A STEEP TOPOGRAPHY.
AND THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENT IS TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.
THIS MAP WILL SHOW YOU THAT THE R-2 IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF HAWKINS ROAD THERE, WHICH IS R-1 THAT R-6 TO THE EAST WAS JUST REZONED THIS PAST MONTH.
THAT WENT FROM R-2 TO R-6 IF YOU REMEMBER THAT.
HISTORIC ESTIMATES FOR THIS IS 62 LOTS.
AGAIN, DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY THAT MAY NOT BE CAPABLE.
IT WILL REQUIRE WATER SYSTEM UPGRADES ACCORDING TO THE CASTING WATER.
DRAINAGE ISSUES ARE IN THIS AREA, BUT WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING THE SUBDIVISION DESIGN MAY REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL DETENTION PONDS MORE THAN YOU TYPICALLY WOULD SEE, FOR A SUBDIVISION THIS SIZE.
STREET DEPARTMENT DID REVIEW THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS AS WELL AS A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT AND IS OKAY WITH IT.
IT'S IN THE SOUTHERN HILLS AREA.
SO, THIS IS THE INTERSECTION OF HAWKINS AND JOHNSON CIRCLE, THE PROPERTIES TO YOUR LEFT KINDA WHERE THOSE ARROW SIGNS ARE RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS A BEAR LOOKING DOWN AT BERRY DRIVE WHICH WOULD BE ANOTHER BACKEND INTO THIS PROPERTY.
THIS IS EDMONDSON FERRY ROAD APPROACHING THE TREE STAND ON THE LEFT IS WHERE THIS PROPERTY ALSO FRONTS.
THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
THE ZONE CHANGES AND AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE OR COULD SERVE THE SITE, AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME.
PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
COUNCILMAN HOLLEMAN, YOU RECOGNIZED.
I JUST QUICK QUESTION WITH THE CONNECTIONS.
WOULD THAT BE ON BERRY DRIVE AND HAWKINS ROAD OR WOULD THAT CONNECT TO VERY DRIVE TO EDMONDSON FERRY? SURE WE'VE MET WITH AN ENGINEER 'CAUSE WE DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND WE'D LIKE TO START THESE CONVERSATIONS DURING ZONING AND THEN IRON THEM OUT, WHEN THEY COME IN FOR SUBDIVISION PHASE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONNECTION FROM BERRY, BOTH EDMONDSON FERRY AND AT JOHNSON CIRCLE AND HAWKINS WHERE YOU HAVE THAT BEND.
THERE'S THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE THAT A 4 WAY STOP, WHICH WOULD REALLY HELP SOME OF THE TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING OUT THERE.
MODIFY THAT INTERSECTION A LITTLE BIT AND THEN YOU'D HAVE ANOTHER WAY IN.
SO, IT REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE TO CUT THROUGH THE JOHNSON CIRCLE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO THIS PROPERTY.
YOU'D HAVE ITS OWN ENTRANCE AS WELL.
SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE, TWO AND THREE FROM THE SOUTH.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 34? HEARING NONE SEEING-- COUNCIL LADY SMITH: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
OH YES, MA'AM, YOUR RECOGNIZE COUNCIL LADY SMITH.
WELL THE OPPOSITION MR. THENDALL.
WE HAD NO COMMENTS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS ONE.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: NO OPPOSITION FROM CITIZENS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WE HAD NO ONE TALKING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE HAVE NO EMAILS OR PHONE CALLS ON RECORD WITH THIS APPLICATION.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: THANK YOU AND I WOULD JUST ALWAYS SAY ALWAYS WHEN WE BUILD A APARTMENT.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH YOU'RE FADING ON US-- COUNCIL LADY SMITH: SO, RESIDENTIAL WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEDESTRIANS CAN ALSO WALK AS WELL.
SO, I'M ALWAYS PUSHING THE SIDEWALK 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN COMPLAINTS THAT I HEAR A LOT ABOUT, THANK YOU.
AS A NEW SUBDIVISION, THIS WOULD HAVE SIDEWALK INTERNALLY TO THE SUBDIVISION WHERE IT CONNECTS TO BERRY DRIVE AND WOULD THEN GO BACK TO NO SIDEWALK WHERE THAT CONNECTION IS MADE, BUT INTERNALLY TO IT ALL NEW SUBDIVISION ROADS.
IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW ROAD IN THE CITY, YOU WILL HAVE SIDEWALK VERY RARE INSTANCES IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS WHERE YOU WON'T BUT THAT'S WHY ALL NEW ROADS YOU DO SEE THE CURB AND SIDEWALK.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ORDINANCE 34? HEARING NONE SEEING NOW WE'RE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 35-2020-21, MR. THENDALL.
THANK YOU, THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION NUMBER Z-41-2020 APPLICATION OF WILLIAM BALLOU JUNIOR.
THIS IS 30.84 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED R-1A.
IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
THE PROPERTY IS SOUTHEAST OF NEEDMORE ROAD, BOYSCOUT ROAD INTERSECTION IN CITY COUNCIL WARD 8.
THE TRACT HAS ROLLING HILLS AND HAS BEEN CLEAR TO VEGETATION IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
THE APPLICANT'S STATEMENT IS TO ALLOW FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS DOES HAVE SOME PLANNING HISTORY OR ZONING HISTORY YOU SAW THIS WAS A SIMILAR REQUEST LAST YEAR
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WITH DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT OF THE PROPERTY.YOU HAD A AT THE TIME A C-5 AREA IN THE FRONT AND R-1A AND THE BACK.
AND NOW YOU HAVE JUST THIS CHUNK OF R-4, WHICH HAS ALL THAT THE REQUEST IS AT THIS TIME.
NONE OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES YOU SAW JUST TO CLEAR OUR BRAINS UNCONSCIOUS FROM A YEAR AGO NONE OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE PART OF THIS.
JUST WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
DEPARTMENT COMMENTS OF NOTE IT MAY REQUIRE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM UPGRADES.
A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT WAS REQUIRED AND ACCEPTED.
NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT HERE RECENTLY THAT I WENT OUT THERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO, SIX WEEKS AGO, AND IT WAS A NIGHT AND DAY.
I WAS LIKE, WHOA, THEY DID TAKE ALL THE TREES OUT.
AND I KNEW THEY WERE TRIMMING SOME OF THE TREES.
'CAUSE WE DID APPROVE A SUBDIVISION FURTHER SOUTH ON THIS PROPERTY.
THERE'S A SUBDIVISION APPROVED FOR ABOUT 100 HOMES, BUT BELOW THE FIRE STATION BUT THIS IS THE PROPERTY ABOVE THE FIRE STATION.
AND THEY JUST DECIDED TO CLEAR ALL THE PROPERTIES WHILE THEY WERE OUT THERE.
SO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PISGAH FROM BOY SCOUT, NEEDMORE ROAD IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND THERE IS MORE HEAD ON THE PROPERTIES TO THE LEFT OF THAT DRIVEWAY.
I WON'T CALL IT A ROAD BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S BUILT LIKE A ROAD, THE SCHOOL OWNS IT AND IT IS A DRIVEWAY.
THIS HAS NEEDMORE ROAD RACETRACKS ON YOUR LEFT.
LOOKING BACK AT THE SCHOOL SITE, THE FIRE STATION DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT WITH THEIR MAILBOX.
SO, IT'S EVERYTHING TO YOUR RIGHT FROM THERE TO THIS SCHOOL.
AND HERE'S FROM THE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
LOOKING BACK UP, NOW YOU CAN SEE THE FIRE STATION.
I DON'T THINK YOU COULD EVEN SEE THAT A YEAR AGO WHEN THE TREES WERE UP THERE BUT IT'S EVERYTHING ON THE LEFT.
THERE'S LOOKING BACK FROM THE BOY SCOUT ROAD FROM THE EXIT OF PISGAH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THIS IS FROM THE PISGAH DRIVEWAY LOOKING AT SITE HISTORICAL ESTIMATES FOR R-4, 370 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY, 999 POTENTIAL POPULATION.
IT IS IN THE TRENTON ROAD PLANNING AREA, PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
THE PROPOSED ARE FOR MULTIFAMILY AND EXISTING ARE ONE, A SINGLE FAMILY AS CURRENTLY ZONED WILL REQUIRE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO POTENTIAL RIGHT OF WAY, SIDEWALK, INTERSECTIONS SIGNALIZATION AND OFFSITE, WATER OR SEWER UPGRADES PRIOR TO THE SUBDIVISION OR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.
THE ADOPTION OF THE LAND USE, THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN STATES IT'S ENCOURAGED TO MAINTAIN DESIRABLE MIX OF HOUSING UNITS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AND NO OTHER ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
COUNCILMAN ALLEN, YOU RECOGNIZED.
YES, OF COURSE THIS IS MY WORK.
AND LAST, LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, LIKE YOU SAID IT WAS A DIFFERENT SIMILAR, BUT THEY WAS TRYING TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME.
AND THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH THE SIDEWALKS 'CAUSE AT HAZELWOOD SCHOOL AT PISGAH THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
MR. BALLOU, BEFORE HE PRESENTED THIS, HE BROUGHT ME TO PLAN AND SHOWED ME THE PLANS AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT THOSE APARTMENTS TO THE SIDEWALK IS THERE.
AND SO, THE KIDS WILL BE ABLE TO WALK FROM THE APARTMENT TO THE SCHOOL AND THEY WON'T BE ON HAZELWOOD ROAD.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WALK TO SCHOOL BACK HOME SAFELY.
SO, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT THING.
AND THEN I WAS KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE TYPE OF APARTMENTS.
AND WHAT LOOK AT SOMEBODY AS OTHERS.
AND, AND THOSE ARE NOT THE TYPE OF APARTMENTS THAT YOU'D REALLY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.
THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM UP.
AND SO, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD BUFFER BETWEEN THE SUBDIVISION AND THE SCHOOL TO HAVE THOSE APARTMENTS THERE.
AND SO, I'LL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF IT, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE SIDEWALK ISSUES HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE ORDINANCE 35? I HAVE A QUESTION MAYOR, THIS COUNCILMAN HENLEY.
COUNCILMAN HENLEY YOUR RECOGNIZED.
WHEN WE REZONE THIS BEFORE WAS IT, WAS THAT LIKE A YEAR OR SO AGO? IT WAS A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AND IT WAS ACTUALLY DENIED AT CITY COUNCIL.
OKAY SO, THIS WASN'T THE ONE WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEN IT TURNED INTO MUCH MORE.
NO THAT'S ON THIS PICTURE ON THIS MAP, JUST A LITTLE SOUTH AND ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU'LL SEE A GIANT AREA OF R-1 IN A LIGHT YELLOW THAT'S THAT PROPERTY.
I'M THINKING IT WAS THE SAME APPLICANT OWNER THAT COUNCILMAN HENLEY JUST REFERENCED.
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YEAH, THEY WERE BOTH MR. BALLOU'S NAME.YEAH, WHERE HE'D SAID THREE FAMILY HOMES AND THEN IT TURNED INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
OKAY, COUNCIL LADY STREETMAN YOU RECOGNIZED.
WHAT DID YOU SAY THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WOULD BE IN THIS SMALL AREA BEHIND THE SCHOOL, ON THE NARROW ROAD? 370 POTENTIAL UNITS.
THAT'S OUR HISTORICAL ESTIMATE.
OUR FOUR LAST 16 UNITS PER ACRE.
WE TYPICALLY SEE ABOUT 13 ONCE IT'S SAID AND BUILT OUT ON AVERAGE.
SO, 370 UNITS HISTORICALLY 999 RESIDENTS.
SO, WE USE ABOUT 2.2, FIVE PEOPLE PER UNIT FOR AN APARTMENT THAT'S BASED ON OUR CENSUS FIGURES.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT TO THE ROAD? 'CAUSE HE, AND THIS IS, I KNOW A RATHER NARROW ROAD.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY TYPE OF TURNING ALLOWED? FOR THEM TO BE AT FOR 900 AND SOME ODD RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT, ESPECIALLY DURING A SCHOOL ZONE.
SURE, I'LL TAKE THE FIRST STUB AT THAT, I WAS SPECIFIC TO MENTION THAT THAT SCHOOL IS A DRIVEWAY, NOT A ROAD AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS THROUGH AN ALREADY BUILT PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY AND SCHOOL SYSTEM MAINTAIN.
I DOUBT THERE WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT THAT BUT I WILL STILL APPROACH THE SCHOOL ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I WAS EVEN REFERRING TO NEEDMORE ROADS I'M SORRY.
YEAH IT'S NOT GOING TO GO OUT TO HAZELWOOD.
IT'S CLOSE, BUT NOT QUITE THERE.
I'D HAVE TO MAYOR IF THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS ON THE CALL I'D LIKE THEM TO ANSWER THAT.
THEY ARE ON THE CALL I THINK MR. SHEPHERD OR COLLEN IS ON THE CALL.
MR. COLLEN, ARE YOU THERE? MR. COLLEN: YES, SIR.
OKAY, COUNSEL LADY STREETMAN HAD A QUESTION.
MR. COLLEN: CAN YOU RESTATE THE QUESTION PLEASE? I'M SORRY.
I WAS REFERRING TO THE AREA AS FAR AS 'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO CONNECT TO NEEDMORE ROAD, CORRECT.
ARE WE GOING TO, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF, NEEDMORE ROAD I KNOW IS A RATHER NARROW ROAD AS IT IS.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT ANY TYPE OF TURNING LANE REQUIRED OR AREA FOR THEM? 'CAUSE I'M CONCERNED WITH THIS AND AGAIN DURING A SCHOOL ZONE AND I'M NOT REFERRING TO THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE SCHOOL, I'M REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO NEEDMORE ROAD WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR 900 RESIDENTS RIGHT THERE BEHIND HAZELWOOD SCHOOL.
MR. COLLEN: SURE, WE WILL DEFINITELY EVALUATE THE NAME FOR ROAD CRIMINALS.
SO, WHEN WE GET A SPECIFIC SITE PLAN TURNED INTO US.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT DECIDED TO GENERATE THAT VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WOULD ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE SOME ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ON NEEDMORE ROAD WANTING A TURN LANE.
I WAS LIKE AT A BARE MINIMUM WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
COUNCIL LADY STREETMAN, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I CAN KIND OF ADD TO THAT.
WE DON'T THINK WILL REQUIRE, WE KNOW WE WILL REQUIRE.
THEN THAT ALLEVIATES AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN THERE, THANK YOU.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION CURRENTLY PLANNED FOR THE YELLOW AREA SOUTH OF THIS.
THERE WILL BE SOME FORM OF A CONNECTION THROUGH THAT AS WELL TO THIS AND THAT PROPERTY.
IT HAD STUBS GOING TO THE NORTH.
IT WAS ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO CONTINUE THAT.
AND THEN THEY'VE COME IN WITH THIS ZONING REQUEST A CHANGE.
SO, THIS PROPERTY ADJOINS THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, IT TOUCHES IT? YEAH, I THINK IT'S EASIER TO SEE ON THAT VERY FIRST MAP.
PISGAH ELEMENTARY IS THE BOX OF THAT IS THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS THE TAIL.
THAT IS THE ROAD, THE AREA SORT OF LANDLOCKED BETWEEN HAZELWOOD AND NEEDMORE IS ALSO OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER, BUT IS NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST.
I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE WAS REFERENCED THAT THERE'D BE A SIDEWALK WHERE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SIDEWALK ON-- IS THERE SIDEWALK ALONG THE DRIVEWAY? THERE IS AND YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE.
THERE IS SIDEWALK AND MR. BALLOU SAID HE'S GONNA MAKE SURE ALL THOSE SIDEWALKS CONNECT.
'CAUSE OF COURSE THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE CHILDREN OVER THERE.
SO, HE GONNA MAKE SURE THEY ALL CONNECT TO, 'CAUSE HE SAYS, HE KNOWS THAT WAS THE ISSUE LAST TIME.
SO, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE I GOT ALL THE SIDEWALKS COVERED.
EVERYBODY BE ABLE TO WALK FROM IF THEY HAVE KIDS THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WALK.
ACTUALLY IT WILL KINDA CONNECT.
THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO WALK BECAUSE THEY USE THAT SCHOOL, PISGAH SCHOOL.
PEOPLE USE IT TO EXERCISE, TO WALK.
SO, THEY ARE ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO WALK FROM THERE AND THEN THE PLAYGROUND IT BUTTS UP TO THAT PLAYGROUND AREA.
AND SO, THEY'LL BE EVEN HAVING ACCESS TO THEM AND CHILDREN.
SO, SINCE THEIR SIDEWALK ON THAT DRIVEWAY IT'LL BE SIMPLE TO TAKE ONE TO THREE INDIVIDUAL SIDEWALKS UP CONNECT TO IT.
THOUGH THERE MAY NOT BE DRIVEWAYS ON IT.
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YOU WILL HAVE SIDEWALK CONNECTING OUT OF THE COMPLEX AND INTO THAT.JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION BUT WOULD THEY NEED SCHOOL SYSTEM PERMISSION IN ORDER TO CONNECT SIDEWALKS TO THEIR SIDEWALKS? PROBABLY, BUT SINCE SIDEWALKS ALREADY, THEY'RE THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ASK THE SCHOOL TO BUILD THOSE SIDEWALKS.
SO, I THINK IT SHOULD BE JUST A SIMPLE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD THEM ON A COUPLE FEET OF THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY'D ACTUALLY HAVE TO CROSS TO GET TO THAT SIDEWALK.
YOU SAY SIMPLE, BUT-- HEY, I'M HOPEFUL.
I WAS GOING DOWN A DIRT ROAD THERE, EXCUSE ME.
JUST LEAVE THAT LAYING THERE RIGHT NOW.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. THENDALL ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE? OKAY, CHANDLER FIRST AND THEN COUNCIL LADY SMITH.
COUNCILMAN CHANDLER YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
AM I, I'M READING THIS RIGHT, 999 RESIDENTS.
AND THE SCHOOL ALREADY HAS FOUR PORTABLE CLASSROOMS 101%.
AND WE'RE SITTING HERE DISCUSSING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET AT LEAST 200 MORE KIDS.
I DON'T CARE IF WE CARRY A MAN, IN A LIMOUSINE.
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO THIS SCHOOL? THEY'RE AT 101% FOR PORTABLE CLASSROOMS. LOOK AT THEIR FOOTPRINT, THE SCHOOL'S FOOTPRINT.
I JUST, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW WE THINK THAT WE CAN PUT THAT MANY MORE CHILDREN IN THAT SMALL OF AN AREA.
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CHANDLER.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH, ARE YOU THERE? OH OKAY, THANK YOU MAYOR.
MR. THENDALL, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE OVER CROWDNESS IN THIS AREA AS WHAT THE FORMER SPEAKER JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
AND THAT WAS ON MY MIND AS WELL.
WITHOUT THESE RESIDENTS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO? CONNECT TO THESE SIDEWALKS OR ALL OF THESE UPGRADES AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT THEY BUILD SOMETHING ON THAT AREA.
AND THEY MAY LIKE THAT WHEN THEY BUILT THAT SCHOOL THEY MAKE LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO PUT SIDEWALKS OVER THERE.
AND THEN AFTER THEY GOT THE SCHOOL UP, THEY SAID OH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PUT THE SIDEWALKS.
THEY NEVER PUT THE SIDEWALKS OVER THERE IN FRONT OF THAT SCHOOL.
SO, HOW ARE WE ASSURED THAT THESE SIDEWALKS ARE GOING TO PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN BUILDING AND ADDING ALL OF THESE UNITS INTO THIS OVERCROWDED AREA? BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF STUDENTS THERE.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THIS? OKAY.
NOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BREAK THE CONTRACT.
WELL, NO CONTRACT AND IMPLIED HERE, BUT AS PART OF THE SITE REVIEW PROCESS, YEAH.
THIS IS WHERE YOU GOTTA TRUST STAFF TO DO THEIR JOB.
BOTH AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE CODE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
HOLD ON MR. THENDALL, EXCUSE ME.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH, DID I HEAR YOU SAY YOU COULDN'T HEAR HIM? COUNCIL LADY SMITH: YES SO, CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? OKAY IF YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE TO YOU THERE ALRIGHT.
THE STAFF OF BOTH THE CODE DEPARTMENT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HANDLE IT DURING THE REVIEW OF THE SITE.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN ALLEN HAS SAID THAT HE'S SEEN IT ALREADY.
I HAVE NOT HAD THE FORTUNATE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT YET BUT I CAN KIND OF PICTURE WHAT KNOWING WHAT MR. BALLOU DOES, WHAT IT WOULD BE.
I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE SIDEWALKS, WE COULD PUT A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CEO ON THE BUILDING CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WOULD BE WITHHELD UNTIL THAT SIDEWALK WAS IN.
SO, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THE FIRST OR SECOND, WHATEVER BUILDING IS GOING RIGHT THERE.
IT'S A LITTLE HARDER WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LARGE SITE PLAN.
WHEN WE DO SUBDIVISIONS WE ALWAYS GET TO SEE THE FINAL SUBDIVISION WHICH WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PHYSICALLY, TAKES MY SIGNATURE.
AND WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS OUT THERE FIRST.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT I WOULD LIKELY TIE IT TO A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR US, THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO TIE INTO THAT SIDEWALK.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL LADY SMITH.
LET ME, BEFORE I CALL ON COUNCILMAN ALLEN LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING.
I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED
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THAN JUST TYING IN A DEVELOPMENT TO THEIR PROPERTY.IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE IT IS AND WHERE IT WILL LAND BECAUSE OF SCHOOL, SAFETY, TRAFFIC, ET CETERA.
SO, THAT WAS MY IMPLICATION THERE.
YOU KNOW OUT HERE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH, BUT I GUESS IF YOU PULL UP THAT WHOLE AREA, SOMEONE WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT WHOLE AREA.
THERE IS SO MUCH LAYING OUT THERE THAT'S ALREADY ZONED AND IT'S JUST WAITING TO BE BUILT UPON THEIR LIVES.
THERE'S SO MUCH IF THE SCHOOL IS AT 100% THEY'RE GOING TO ALREADY HAVE TO BUILD.
AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN'T JUST ONLY ALLOW BUILDING WHERE A SCHOOL IS MAYBE UNDER CAPACITY.
BECAUSE ALL THAT CHANGES ALL THE TIME, IT'S VERY FLUID.
WHEN AT ONE MINUTE THE SCHOOL IS FULL, THE NEXT MINUTE THEY DO SOME DO SOME REZONING, IT'S NOT FULL, AND IT'S FULL AGAIN.
THEY'RE GONNA SEE THE CITY IS GROWING.
SO, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD SCHOOLS ANYWAY AND THERE'S ENOUGH OUT THERE NOW IF YOU DIDN'T REZONE ANYTHING ELSE, THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO BE OLD SCHOOLS OUT THERE.
BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IS ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY.
AND SO, THAT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE NOT A GOOD REASON NOT TO ALLOW TO BUILD.
THERE I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT AS A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY'S LAND ACQUISITION AD HOC COMMITTEE WHICH IS THE COMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT THE NEXT PIECES OF PROPERTY TO PUT SCHOOLS ON.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT A THREE COMPLEX OFF IN EAST COUNTY, OFF ROSS V ROAD WITH AN ELEMENTARY SORRY, MIDDLE, HIGH SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THAT ORDER.
AFTER THAT'S COMPLETE, THE NEXT SCHOOL THAT HAS TO GET BUILT IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THIS GENERAL AREA.
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TRENTON ROAD AND BARKER'S MILL IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S ALREADY THREE OR FOUR OUT THERE AND YOU CAN'T IMAGINE THERE IS ROOM FOR ANOTHER, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
THERE'S SO MUCH ROOM BETWEEN AUTUMNWOOD, THE LAND ACROSS FROM THERE AND IN THE AREA YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS MAP THAT DRIVES THAT AS THE NEXT IMMEDIATE NEED.
I ENCOURAGE ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE, AND IT'S NOT A HUGE DOCUMENT BUT LOOK AT THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS 10 YEAR PLAN IT'S OUTLINED IN THERE, THEY'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THIS GROWTH, WHETHER ZONED OR NOT.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED.
AND AS WE KNOW NOT, EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BUILD, THIS WE'LL JUST JUMP AHEAD OF SOME OTHER R-4 OR HIGHER DENSITY THING THAT WOULD GET BUILT DURING THAT SAME TIME.
JUST BECAUSE WE ZONE SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO GROW FASTER, JUST MEANS TO BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE.
WE'RE STILL ANTICIPATING THOSE 43, 4,400 PEOPLE A YEAR.
I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SCHOOL AND YOU PROBABLY WAS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE TAKING THE PICTURES.
BUT THE, WHEN I MOVED OVER THERE 12, 13 YEARS AGO THERE WERE A FEW HOURS, BUT THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT THAT WHOLE FIELD IS, ALREADY ZONED FOR HOURS.
AND IT'S BEEN A SLOW BUILD OUT, BUT IT'S PICKING UP STEAM REAL FAST NOW.
AND IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE THEY'LL BE A TINY TOWN.
AND THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF HOUSES.
AND WHEN WE, BUILT OUR CHURCH AT THE SITE PLAN WHERE THEY HAD THE PLANS FOR THE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT SIDE AND BACK THEN IN O-7 THEY PROJECTED 500 HOUSES IN THERE FROM THERE TO THE CREEK.
YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE HAVE TO BE ALL SOMEWHERE AND IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND WE HAVE TO KIND OF PLAY IN BOARD AND MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS.
MR. THENDALL SAID SOMETHING, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST.
I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD REQUIRE SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS ON A SEAT FOR A CEO.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE ON THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE I AS A BUILDER DEVELOPER, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT AND BE HELD UP A WHITE NOTE, A DECISION TO BE MADE BY, I'D LIKE TO SAY AN AGREEMENT ON THE SITE PLAN INSTEAD OF AT RIGHT INTO THE END.
WHEN YOU KNOW I GOT MONEY TIED UP.
IT WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THE CEO WOULD BE THE, THAT'S THE STICK.
WE ALL, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ORDINANCE 35? HEARING NONE SEEING NONE WE'RE READY FOR ORDINANCE 36-2020-21, MR. THENDALL.
NEXT CASE Z-42-2020 AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPLICATION OF DAVID WRITTEN BERRY AND WILLIAM PARKER.
THIS IS 2.72 ACRES CURRENTLY ZONED BOTH AG AND R-2 IT'S TWO PARCELS, ONE AG ONE R-3, BOTH PROPOSING TO GO TO R-4.
IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE R-4 TO THE WEST AND THE SOUTH.
IN THIS PHOTO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT GLEN ALLEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT THERE.
AND YOU'RE JUST WEST OF WHITFIELD ROAD.
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AS YOU CAN SEE, THE R-4 IS THE LARGEST PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS.THE PROPERTY FRIENDS NEEDMORE ROAD, 250 FEET WEST OF NEEDMORE IN CENTER STONE CIRCLE INTERSECTION.
THE APPLICANT STATEMENT IS TO EXTEND THE ZONING FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
DEPARTMENT COMMENTS OF NOTE A GAS AND WATER STATED THERE'S NO GRAVITY SEWER AVAILABLE.
THERE WERE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM COMMENTS BELOW.
HISTORIC ESTIMATES FOR JUST THESE TWO PARCELS OF R-4 WOULD BE 32 UNITS, 86 RESIDENTS.
IT'S IN THE TRENTON ROAD PLANNING AREA.
AND RUN YOU THROUGH THE PHOTOS REAL QUICK.
THERE'S THE INTERSECTION OF CENTER STONE ON YOUR RIGHT, NEEDMORE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES ON THE LEFT.
AND AS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MOBILE HOME AND STICK STRUCTURES ON IT, ADJACENT TO IT.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE RECEIVED SEVERAL CALLS ON.
WHEN THE ZONING SIGN GOT PUT UP, THERE'S JUST SORT OF A LAY DOWN AREA BACK THERE.
AND THEY ASKED IF THAT WAS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST THAT WE'VE TOOK A PHOTO 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF A LANDMARK.
AND THERE'S A LOOKING BACK AT THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
AND IN QUESTION, AND THEN FROM NEEDMORE, LOOKING TOWARD WHITFIELD PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE DOWN BY THE CURB.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
THE ZONE CHANGES AND EXTENSION OF OUR FORE TO THE SOUTH AND THE EAST SORRY, WEST.
THE ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN STATES THAT IS ENCOURAGED TO MAINTAIN A DESIRABLE MIX OF HOUSING TYPES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND NO ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME.
PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 36? HEARING NONE SEEING NONE.
WE ARE NOW READY FOR ORDINANCE 37-2020-21, MR. THENDALL.
THANK YOU, LAST CASE I BELIEVE THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z-43-2020 APPLICATION OF DANIEL HAYES.
IT'S A PORTION OF A PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED C-5 AND THE REQUESTING FOR THAT PORTION TO GO TO R-2.
IT IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPERTIES LOCATED WEST OF SHANNON STREET AND ASHBURY ROAD INTERSECTIONS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE PREDOMINANT ZONING OUT THERE IS R-1.
WHEN R-1 WAS PROBABLY HAD A OPPORTUNITY FOR IT'S A VACANT GRASSLAND TRACK AND THE APPLICANT WISHES TO GAIN TWO SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING LOTS.
PROPERTIES ON THE LEFT AT THE INTERSECTION, BUT THE HOMES WILL BE FURTHER DOWN WHERE THAT OTHER HOME IS ON THE LEFT.
WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING RARE HAPPEN AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE HAD A NEIGHBOR COME OUT AND SAY, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS THING.
I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME OUT OF THEIR DATA, SUPPORT SOMETHING.
THERE WERE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FROM DEPARTMENTS.
THE PROPOSAL REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVES THE SITE AND THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU, MR. THENDALL, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 37? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION TO MAKE.
OKAY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED COUNSIL LADY SMITH.
MR. THENDALL, DO YOU KNOW HOW WHAT IS THE REQUIRED SETBACK FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? THIS IS NOT AN ACRE, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, IT'S A POINT SIX OR WHAT DID I SAY 0.6 OR 0.44.
SO, YOU'LL HAVE 2.2, LOTS MORE THAN LIKELY OUT THERE.
THE SETBACKS I KNOW, YOU KNOW ABOUT HEART.
GOT IT RIGHT HERE ON THE CHART.
COUNCILMAN BURKHART, DO YOU WANT TO HELP? I GOT IT RIGHT HERE.
25 OF FRONTAGE 40 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK, EIGHT FEET ON THE SIDES FOR A COMBINED 20 AND 25 IN THE REAR.
IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE LOTS OUT THERE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 37? COUNCILMAN BURKHART.
AND I THINK TO EXPAND ON WHAT COUNCILOR SMITH WAS SAYING.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LINE THEM UP WITH THE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO GET IN FRONT OR BEHIND THEM.
SO, THEY JUST GOT TO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE A CONTINUATION.
SO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET EVEN IF THEY COULD COME CLOSER TO THE STREET.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 37? HEARING NONE SEEING NONE MR. THINDALL, IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT.ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU GOOD REPORT.
WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA,
[2. CONSENT AGENDA]
MADAM CLERK.ORDINANCE 10-2021 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE.
APPLICATION OF FAITH INVESTMENTS IN CARE OF CHRIS BLACKWELL FOR SOME CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH WHITFIELD ROAD AND NEED MORE ROAD FROM AG AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, TO R-4 MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 18-2021 SECOND READING AUTHORIZING EXTENSION OF CITY UTILITIES, TO PROPERTY LOCATED ON GARRETT SPIELBERG ROAD REQUESTED VERNON WEEKLY ORDINANCE 2021 SEC, 20-2021.
SECOND READING AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO GAS, WATER, AND SEWER CHARGES, DEPOSITS, PROGRAMS ADJUSTMENTS, AND INSTALLMENT PLANS, OR WHEN IT'S 21-2021.
SECOND READING WAIVING CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEES FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, OR IT'S 22-2021.
SECOND READING AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO STORAGE OF INOPERABLE VEHICLES ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
OR THIS 23-2021 SECOND READING AUTHORIZING SALE OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 10 JAMESTOWN PLACE, TO HAVE A CHAT FOR HUMANITY.
ORDINANCE 24-2021 SECOND READING, AMENDING THE OFFICIAL CODE RELATIVE TO THE CODE OF ETHICS REGARDING PAYMENT OF ATTORNEY FEES.
OR IT'S 25-2021 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF J AND N ENTERPRISES INCORPORATED.
FOR SOME CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH OF TINY TOWN ROAD AT THE WESTERN TERMINI OF SIEGEL DRIVE AND ECKRICH DRIVE, FROM OUR TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, TO OUR 2D TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
OR IT'S 26-2021 SECOND READING AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, SID HEDRICK AGENT.
FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WASHINGTON STREET AND GREENWOOD AVENUE FROM OUR THREE, THREE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, TO OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
OR IT'S 27-2021 SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE APPLICATION OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, SID HEDRICK AGENT.
FOR ZONE CHANGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BEACH STREET AND PROVIDENCE BOULEVARD.
FROM C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ORDINANCE 28-2021 SECOND READING, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF CLARKSVILLE, APPLICATION OF BARRY HENDRICK, SID HEDRICK AGENT.
FOR SOME CHANGE ON PROPERTY, LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF CROSSLAND AVENUE AND MARTIN STREET FROM C-2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, TO OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
ADOPTION OF MINUTES, SEPTEMBER 3, 2020.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILOR NORRIS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
I'LL BE PULLING ORDINANCE 24-2021 OFF OR AN AMENDMENT.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
ANY, ANY FURTHER COMMENT OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE HEARING NONE.
WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT.
[3. FINANCE COMMITTEE]
COUNCILMAN CHAIRMAN BURKHART.ORDINANCE 19-20-2021 POSTPONE FROM SEPTEMBER 3RD, MAYOR, I'M GOING TO HAND THAT ONE TO YOU TO SEE IF WE'VE MADE ANY PROGRESS ON IT.
I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO POSTPONE SO.
YES, SIR, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT I'D ASKED TO DEFER UNTIL THIS MONTH.
THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION REGARDING THE PROPERTY.
WAS IT TAX SALE? WAS IT FORECLOSURE? I THINK I HEARD THAT IT'S NEITHER.
THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS SURPLUS PROPERTY.
COUNTY COMMISSIONER TANGIE SMITH WHO HAS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION CALLED WOMEN ELEVATED.
HAD GONE THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND ASKED TO PURCHASE BASED ON THE ASSESSED VALUE THE ASSESSOR'S VALUE ON THE TAX CARD, ROUGHLY 9,000 IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, CHAIRMAN CORRECT ME, IF I'M WRONG.
WE HAVE SINCE CLARIFIED THAT SHE HAS PUT THIS ASKED TO PUT THIS PROPERTY IN BOTH HER NAME PERSONALLY AS WELL AS THE NONPROFIT NAME, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A YOUNG NONPROFIT, SHE JUST NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS PROPERLY POSITIONED.
SO, I'M COMFORTABLE THAT WE'VE KIND OF CLARIFIED THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE TO BE PURCHASED OR DONATED TO A NONPROFIT.
AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING DONATED THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE, OKAY.
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WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LAST TIME, WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE PROPERTIES, WAS IT BIKE, DOESN'T CARE, BUY THAT PROPERTY OR WHATEVER.AND I'M VERY FARMILIAR WITH HIM OF COURSE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE HAD A WAY.
WHEREAS I USED TO CHAIR NONPROFIT COMMITTEE FOR CITY FOR YEARS AND SOME NONPROFITS.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS NONPROFIT, BUT I'M SAYING SOME NONPROFITS ARE JUST BASICALLY STARTUPS AND THEY START UP A MINUTE AND THEN THEY'RE GONE.
I KNOW IN OUR CHURCH BYLAWS, IT SAYS BASICALLY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, IF OUR CHURCH CEASES TO BE A CHURCH THEN NO PERSON CAN PROFIT FROM IT.
THEN ALL THE PROCEEDS HAVE TO GO TO A NONPROFIT.
AND WHEN WE'RE DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, AS FAR AS CITY PROPERTY, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK MAYBE IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THERE LIKE THAT, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST TO KINDA JUST FOR OUR SAFEGUARD TO MAKE SURE THAT NO INDIVIDUAL, I COULD START UP A NONPROFIT.
FIND LAND THAT THE CITY DOESN'T WANT.
THE CITY WANTS TO HELP THE NONPROFIT, AND GIVE IT TO ME THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE NONPROFIT FAILS, AND NOW I OWN THE PROPERTY BECAUSE, AND THEN I TURN AROUND AND SELL IT AND MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT.
I THINK WE ARE SELLING IT AT THIS PRICE BECAUSE IT IS A NONPROFIT, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE FEEL WILL HELP THE CITY.
I JUST THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD IN THE FUTURE, LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS, I THINK YOU'RE SELLING IT FOR $9,000 WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY WHAT IT'S WORTH.
THE BAPTISTS WHO CARED, I THINK, WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT WAS PROBABLY MORE OF A DONATION TYPE THING, I THINK.
BUT IF SOMEBODY, IF WE HAVE PROPERTIES ON THE TAX ROLLS AND WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE 300 AND SOMETHING PROPERTIES I THINK THE MAYOR MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES WE HAVE 300 NON-PROFITS, AND I HONESTLY, I'M KIND OF GLAD SOMEBODY WANTS IT.
IF IT'S DOING ANYTHING ELSE BUT NONPROFIT, IT WOULD BE CHURNING PROPERTY TAX.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO'S LISTENING TO THIS TO COME, PLEASE LOOK AT THE LIST.
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, PLEASE BUY IT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET.
MAYBE THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET GOING WITH THIS.
THE REASON WE HAVE 300 IS BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN RID OF THEM AND WE KEEP COLLECTING THEM.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OTHER PEOPLE COME FORWARD AND START BUYING THEM.
I THINK WE'D ALL BE BETTER OFF.
COUNCILMAN HOLLEMAN: SO AT $9,000 A DISCOUNTED PRICE, IT'S JUST-- COUNCILMAN ALLEN: THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TAX CARD I THINK.
YEAH THAT'S THE VALUE THAT'S LISTED ON THE ASSESSOR PROPERTIES TAX CARD.
IT'S NOT AN APPRAISED VALUE, RIGHT? IT'S AN ASSESSED VALUE.
PROPERTY IS ONLY WORTH WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT- YEAH, SOMETIMES.
WELL, THEY ALWAYS ASK WHEN I GO DOWN THERE EARLIER WELL, WHEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE GO DOWN THERE AND THEY SAY, WELL, MY TAX IS THIS AND THEY ASK YOU WOULD YOU SELL IT FOR THIS? AND MOST PEOPLE (COUNCILMAN ALLEN LAUGHS) THEY TURN AROUND AND SAY NO.
NO, IT'S WORTH MORE THAN THAT.
OKAY, THEN IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT.
AND I, DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I THINK BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC BODY AND WE HAVE TO KIND OF DO AND WE DON'T HAVE TO KIND OF DO, WE HAVE TO DO THINGS OUT IN THE OPEN.
SO, IT PUTS SOME PEOPLE AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE 'CAUSE THEY STAKE THEIR CLAIM.
THEY COME TO US, THEY GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS, AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT IT.
SOMEBODY ELSE HEARS ABOUT IT AND SAYS WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU $2,000 MORE FOR IT.
SO, WE'RE NOT IN A BIDDING WAR.
PRIMARILY WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY SHE'S OFFERED BY THE ASSESSED VALUE.
DIDN'T ASK FOR A DONATION OR A DISCOUNT.
SHE JUST SAID, I'LL GIVE YOU THE ASSESSED VALUE.
SO, THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE US.
BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
COUNCILMAN GARRETT, YOU'RE RECOGNIZE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF CAMILLE IS ONLINE OR MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF SPEAK TO IT.
BUT I DID HAVE A DEVELOPER KINDA REACH OUT TO, THEY ASKED ME ABOUT IT.
I TOLD THEM TO GET IN TOUCH WITH CAMILLE AND THEY INQUIRED ABOUT SOME OF THIS EXCESS PROPERTY AND EXPRESS WHICH ONES THEY WERE INTERESTED IN.
AND THEY WERE TOLD, KINDA TURNED AWAY AND SAID THAT THEY COULDN'T PURCHASE ANYTHING.
AND SO, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF EXPOUND ON IT FOR THE RECORD.
'CAUSE ON ONE HAND, I'M HEARING THAT, WE'VE KIND OF WELCOMED THAT IN THE COMMUNITY COMING TO PURCHASE IT AND, PUT IT BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS OR SOMETHING.
WHETHER IT'S AN INFIELD DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING, BUT WE'VE GOT DEVELOPERS THAT ARE BEING TOLD, NO THEY CAN'T.
AND THEN ON THIS END WE HAVE IT GOING THROUGH.
SO, I'M JUST KINDA CURIOUS AS TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS?
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HOW, WHY MIGHT THAT BE THAT THEY WERE TOLD NO? BUT WITHOUT KNOWING THE SPECIFICS OR WHO IT WAS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT RIGHT NOW, I CAN TELL YOU GENERALLY THE PROCESS.AND THEN CAMILLE THOMAS OUR PURCHASING DIRECTOR IS ON THE LINE AS WELL.
GENERALLY, WE WENT THROUGH AN EXERCISE WHERE WE IDENTIFIED CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.
WE ASKED DEPARTMENTS WHICH PROPERTIES THEY NEEDED TO KEEP FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO, WE TOOK THOSE OFF THE TABLE.
FOR THOSE THAT WERE ORPHANS THAT WERE OUT THERE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY WILLING TO CLAIM THEM.
AND I THINK WE DISPOSED OF ONE LAST YEAR LAST CALENDAR YEAR, THE WATERWORKS BUILDING.
AND SO, WE PUT THOSE ON A WEBSITE, THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WITH CAMILLE AND HEATHER FLEMING WAS PART OF IT, CREATED A MAP WITH PARCEL NUMBERS.
YOU CAN CLICK ON A PARCEL, SEE WHERE IT IS, GET ALL THE TAX INFORMATION.
AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF STEPS YOU GO THROUGH.
BUT IT STARTS WITH CAMILLE THOMAS WHO CAN SIT DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON THERE AND IDENTIFY WHAT BACK TAXES ARE OWED SITTING IN COUNTY.
MOST OF THEM HAVE BACK TAXES OR LIENS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO CUT GRASS OR CLEAN UP A LOT OVER TIME.
SO, THAT'S GENERALLY THE PROCESS.
IF THEY WANT TO BUY IT, THEN THE CAMILLE NEGOTIATES THAT IT CAN BE A NEGOTIATED SALE CAN BE AN AUCTION.
WE CAN PUT A SIGN UP THAT SAYS FOR SALE BY CITY OF CLARKSVILLE AND ALL COMERS.
WE HADN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET, BUT THAT'S GENERALLY THE PROCEDURE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY BEING TOLD NO, YOU CAN'T BUY IT UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIFIC REASON.
AGAIN, NOT KNOWING THE DETAILS THERE BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DEVELOPERS, INDIVIDUALS APPROACH US ABOUT BUYING PROPERTIES.
AND WE'RE KIND OF LIKE COUNSELING TO BURKHART SAID, WE'LL TAKE YOU AND WE'LL TAKE YOUR MONEY.
'CAUSE WE WANT IT BACK ON THE TAX ROLL PLUS IT'S A FINANCIAL LIABILITY FOR THE CITY.
SO, DOES THAT HELP? AND IF YOU NEED CAMILLE, SHE'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER SPECIFICS.
MS. CAMILLE, IF YOU CAN JUST KINDA MAYBE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WAS MISSED BY THE MAYOR, JUST KIND OF FILL ME IN THAT WAY.
I'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO TAKE BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAD REACHED OUT AND WAS KINDA TOLD THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THOSE PARCELS.
CAMILLE THOMAS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? CAMILLE: I AM, MY COMPUTER KEEPS DROPPING THE CALL.
SO, IF I LOSE YOU, THAT'S WHY I HAVE RECONNECTED SO MANY TIMES.
(CAMILLE THOMAS LAUGHING) CAMILLE: NOW WE HAVEN'T TOLD ANYONE THEY CANNOT.
WE'VE HAD SOME BACK TAXES ON ALMOST ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
WE WERE TRYING TO WORK OUT SOME SORT OF SOLUTION ON HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY WAVE THOSE TAXES.
AND RECENTLY FOUND THAT WE CANNOT DO THAT.
THE TAXES OWED ARE NOT ONLY CITY BUT THEY'RE ARE ALSO COUNTY.
SO, WE WILL BE COMING TO THE COUNCIL SOON.
I HOPE WITH A LIST OF PROPERTIES, A STARTING PRICE WHICH WOULD HAVE TO COVER WHAT THOSE TAXES ARE OR THE TAX ASSESSORS PRICE VALUE ON IT.
SO, WE CAN START DUMPING SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES AND GET THEM BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS.
BUT THERE'S NEVER BEEN A TIME THAT WE'VE TOLD ANYONE.
NO, I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD SOMEONE WE ARE WORKING ON SOLUTIONS AND ONCE WE HAVE THOSE SOLUTIONS IN PLACE WE WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA START DISPOSING OF THE PROPERTIES.
LET ME JUST ADD, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU COUNCILMAN GARRETT, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
BECAUSE AS SHE MENTIONED, HOW MOST OF THE PROPERTIES OWED BACK CITY AND COUNTY TAXES.
WORKING WITH COUNTY ON HOW WE DISPOSE OF THAT.
SO, THAT BOTH COUNTY AND CITY ARE MADE WHOLE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
AND THAT'S ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT THEY RECEIVED, BUT THE INTERPRETATION FOR THEM WAS A NO, IN THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A PROCESS, BUT THEY'RE BEING TOLD NO TODAY, BUT WE'RE VOTING ON, THE ACQUISITION HERE.
SO, THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE I WANTED TO GET THE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THEY, DID MENTION THEY WERE TOLD KINDA KNOW, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON A PROCESS AND IT JUST, DIDN'T KINDA JIVE RIGHT.
THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE'S BUYING IT.
WHY CAN'T THEY FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AS THE CURRENT PERSON THAT'S DOING IT.
SO, THAT WAS JUST KINDA THE CONCERN THAT THEY EXPRESSED TO ME IN REGARDS TO IT.
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AND MAYBE A CAMILLE OFFLINE WE CAN MAYBE TALK PARTICULARS.I CAN GIVE YOU THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME AND WE CAN KINDA GO THROUGH THE CHAIN.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE I HAVE AN EMAIL CHAIN EITHER WITH THEM, EITHER EMAIL OR TEXT CHAIN ABOUT IT AND WE CAN KINDA GO THROUGH IT AND JUST SEE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THEIR PARTICULAR GOAL IN ACQUIRING PROPERTIES.
KINDA LIKE TANGYS DUIRING OUR ENTITY? THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GARRETT.
COUNCILMAN ALLEN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
MAYOR, AS WE ACQUIRE A PROPERTY, (COUNCILMAN ALLEN LAUGHING) ARE ALL THOSE PROPERTIES BEING ADDED TO THE LIST TOO? I'M SORRY, REPEAT THE QUESTION.
I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING ONGOING.
IF WE GET SOMETHING, SOMETIMES WE'VE MADE STUFF AND WE SIT ON IT TWO OR THREE YEARS AND WE COULD'VE FLIPPED IT QUICK AS WE GET IT, HEY, IT'S ON THE LIST.
THE CITY DOESN'T WANT IT, JUST LEAVE IT THERE.
WELL, WE'VE LEARNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ACQUIRE.
YEAH SO, WE MAY NOT BE ADDING TOO MANY MORE TO THE LIST.
OKAY I'VE GOT COUNCIL LADY SMITH ON THE LIST YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I THINK I NEED TO DIRECT THIS TO CAMILLE THOMAS.
MS. THOMAS, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAMILLE: YES, MA'AM.
OKAY, THEN WHEN SOMEONE PURCHASED, A SUPPOSE POCKET, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY ALL UP FRONT OR DO Y'ALL MAKE SET UP PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS? HOW IS THE PAYMENT FOR THEM? CAMILLE: THEY PUT DOWN 10% AS EARNEST MONEY IF YOU WILL.
AND AT THE CLOSING THEY MUST PAY THE BALANCE.
NOW MY NEXT QUESTION IS THIS, IS THERE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHEN WE'RE SELLING PROPERTY TO ANOTHER OFFICIAL? HOW'S THIS LOOK THERE? IT WOULD ONLY BE A CONFLICT IF IT WERE A CITY EMPLOYEE OR A CITY OFFICIAL.
SO, I COULDN'T BUY A PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY YOU COULDN'T BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A LEGAL OPINION.
SO, IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THE PIECE THEN WE WOULD GET THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT INVOLVED.
OKAY AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS WHEN WE SELL PROPERTY DO WE HAVE TO SELL IT TO A NONPROFIT OR WE CAN SELL IT TO A PROFIT? QUESTION IS FOR PROFIT OR NONPROFIT.
CAN WE SELL IT TO ANYBODY? WE CAN SELL IT TO ANYBODY WHO'S GOT MONEY.
LET THE CHURCH SAY, AMEN. AMEN, THANK YOU.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH, WAS THAT ALL? MAYOR CAN I SPEAK? YES SIR.
LET ME MAKE SURE COUNCIL LADY SMITH IS THROUGH AND THEN I GOT YOU NEXT ON THE LIST.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HENLEY YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
YES, SIR, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF I MISHEARD YOU OR WHAT BUT I KNOW WHEN THIS WENT TO FINANCE COMMITTEE ORIGINALLY THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT ON THE WEBSITE LIST.
WELL, WE DOUBLE BACKED COUNCILMAN HENLEY AND THIS PROPERTY WAS ON THE SURPLUS PROPERTY LIST.
BUT NOBODY WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT IF IT WASN'T ON THE WEBSITE, CORRECT? I JUST HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH IT.
IT DOESN'T SEEM VERY TRANSPARENT.
LIKE I SAID, LAST MEETING, IT WASN'T ON THE WEBSITE, SO NOBODY KNEW IT WAS FOR SALE.
AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THERE'S NO BACK TAXES OWED ON IT, WHICH IS KINDA UNUSUAL AS WELL.
AND THEN I CALL SOME REAL ESTATE INVESTORS AND IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THE CITY COULD POTENTIALLY GET DOUBLE WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR IT.
AND THEN ALSO I WOULD PREFER IF WE'RE GOING TO PLAY THE NONPROFIT CARD THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DEEDED IN THE NONPROFIT AND IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE RESOLUTION OR THE ORDINANCE THAT IT'S GOING TO THE NONPROFIT'S NAME.
BUT I GUESS MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS JUST IT WASN'T ON THE LIST.
SO, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WASN'T VERY TRANSPARENT THAT IT WAS FOR SALE AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW BUT I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES.
OKAY, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN HENLEY.
[01:20:01]
COUNCILMAN GARRETT YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.I FIGURED WHY WE GOT A, GREAT LEGAL MIND WITNESS TODAY.
MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT, MR. BAKER.
OKAY, THE QUESTION TO HIM FOR THE RECORD.
THAT PREVIOUS SPEAKER REFERENCED WHAT IF A CITY COUNCIL PERSON WANTED TO PURCHASE A PIECE OF PROPERTY? COULD BE A PROBLEM UNDER THE ETHICS CODE.
APPARENTLY WE CAN PURCHASE DELINQUENT TAX SALE PROPERTIES.
YEAH I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO THAT, IT DEFINITELY CAN'T BE DONE.
'CAUSE IT, MIGHT COULD BE DONE.
I REALLY NEED TO KINDA DIG INTO THAT REGARDING NOT JUST THE ETHICS CODE BUT THE STATE CONFLICTS LAW WHICH I DON'T THINK WOULD ACTUALLY PREVENT IT BECAUSE THAT DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR ROLE IN OVERSEEING CONTRACTS.
IF THEY HAVE EITHER A DIRECT OR INDIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE CONTRACT.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LAWS IN THE STATE LAWS THAT PERTAIN TO TAX SALES THAT WOULD PREVENT IT.
PROBABLY ONLY THING THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM WOULD BE THE ETHICS CODE.
MAYBE YOU COULD RESEARCH THAT AND GET US AN ANSWER.
YEAH THAT'D BE NICE TO KNOW THAT ONE.
AND MY, NO THAT'S IT FROM MR. BANKER.
UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING FOR THEM.
GO AHEAD YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR.
I'M JUST GONNA LET YOU KNOW MS. THOMAS.
I FOLLOWED UP WITH AN EMAIL WITH YOU.
I HAD THE GENTLEMEN SCREENSHOT IT AND SORRY, I JUST SENT THAT TO YOU FOR THE PROPERTY PARCEL IN QUESTION WAS 34-44 BARKERS MILL ROAD.
OH, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME AT THE END THERE.
JUST HAVE IT JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT WAS THEY WERE ADVISED WHEN WE ARE READY TO SELL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE'LL EITHER DO SO BY SEALED OFFERS OR BY PUBLIC AUCTION.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
IT'S NOT A HARD, NO, BUT A DEFLECTION.
ANYTHING ELSE? I GOT ONE MORE THOUGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE COUNCILMAN GEAR YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
COUNCILMAN ALLEN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
YES, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS.
BRAINSTORM ABOUT BUYING THE PROPERTIES OR WHATEVER'S.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THOUGH.
COURSE YOU WOULDN'T VOTE TO BIG FACILITY IS YES.
SO, YOU'D HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE.
I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT A PERSON COULDN'T BENEFIT FROM BUT IF, AS LONG AS YOU ABSTAIN FROM IT, AND THEN IT'S THE IT'S THE COUNCIL THAT'S DOING THE VOTING.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BURKHART.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LAND AND MAYBE IT'S JUST TIME THAT WE TAKE ALL THESE PARCELS AND JUST HEAD TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF THESE REPUBLIC, OPTION, INTERNET SAY, I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TAX SALE LAST WEEK AND IT GOT CANCELED BECAUSE APPARENTLY EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
SO MAYBE WE JUST HAVE AN ONLINE TYPE OF AUCTION.
I'LL LET OR LET PEOPLE BID ON THEM ON A, ON THE INTERNET SIDE OR SOMETHING.
JUST MAYBE GET US HIRE SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE EXCESS PROPERTIES AND, AND HAVE AN AUCTION COMPANY BID ON THAT AND SAY, HEY, TAKE THESE PROPERTIES, GET RID OF THEM.
AND, AND THEY'LL CHARGE US 5% OR 10% OR WHATEVER.
AND WE JUST, WE JUST TAKE THE REST OF WHOEVER THEY'RE OPEN FOR WHOEVER COMBINED AND WHO WANTS TO BUY THEM.
AND I THINK IT'S TIME THAT I THINK WE'RE THERE.
I THINK WE, I THINK EVERY TIME WE HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WE, WE KIND OF GET OUR HEAD IN THE VISE A LITTLE BIT AND WE STARTED TO START TIGHTENING IT UP OURSELF AND CAUSE WE DON'T, WE WANT TO GET THAT.
WE WANT TO GET RID OF IT BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.
AND I THINK WE, I THINK JUST THROW IT ALL OUT THERE AT ONE TIME AND SAY, HEY, HAVE AT IT.
I THINK THAT MAY BE THE ANSWER.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH THE COUNTY.
CAUSE THEY WANT TO DO CA PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS THAT THEY ALSO RETAIN.
OF COURSE THERE'S NO CITY TAXES OWED.
[01:25:01]
COUNCIL LADY SMITH.I JUST HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT IN THE SAMPLE.
LET'S SAY THAT WE DID AT THE PROPERTY TO THE NONPROFIT ONLY IT JUST SAY NOTHING TO NONPROFIT'S COMPANY NAME.
SO LET'S SAY THAT THE NONPROFITS FAIL.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO, BUT CAN WE CHANGE THE DEED? CAN THE DEED BE CHANGED TO THE PERSON WHO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY? IS THAT A PROBLEM? WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
COUNCIL LADY SMITH, STATE LAW DICTATES WHAT A NONPROFIT HAS TO DO TO DISPOSE OF THEIR ASSETS AND LAND WOULD BE AN ASSET BUILDINGS, EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA.
WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO UNLESS THAT.
AND I'M WAY OUT OF MY PAY GRADE HERE UNLESS WE PUT SOME SORT OF PROVISION OR RESTRICTION IN THE DEED THAT SAYS IT WOULD REVERT BACK TO THE CITY.
I THINK WE'VE HEARD THAT TERM BEFORE, COUNCIL LADY SMITH.
SO, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE CAN SELL THE, SELL THE D LAB FOR SOME OF THE PROPERTIES.
I KNOW NEED TO BE REVAMPED OR REPAIRED OR WHATEVER.
AND SO I'M GLAD WE CAN GET RID OF SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES.
SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD AND SOME OF MY BAD, IF THEY COULD BE FIXED UP, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CHANDLER.
WHAT I'VE BEEN SETTING AND LISTEN TO IS THIS COULD ALL BE SOLVED VERY SIMPLY.
IF WE HAD A POLICY AND PROCEDURE, WE DON'T HAVE TO SELL THEM ALL AT ONE TIME.
WE DON'T GET ONE TODAY AND SELL IT TODAY.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF POLICY IN PLACE THAT SAID X NUMBER OF DAYS AFTER WE TAKE IT.
THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MR. BAKER BUT CAN WE LEGALLY SELL IT FOR MORE THAN WHAT'S OWED IF IT'S FOR A TAX SALE AND THEN ALL THE INCURRED CHARGES WHILE WE MAINTAIN IT? TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE DO HAVE A POLICY ON DISPOSAL OF SURP.
WHAT'S CONSIDERED SURPLUS CITY PROPERTY AND YES, WE CAN SELL IT FOR MORE THAN WHAT'S -- WHAT IT IS, BOTH APPRAISED AS WELL AS ASSESSED FOR AS LONG AS YOU GOT A WILLING BUYER AND A WILLING SELLER.
COME UP WITH A PROCEDURE THEN IT SAYS THAT WE NEED TO GET FAIR MARKET VALUE.
IF IT IS FOR A TRULY LEGITIMATE NONPROFIT I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT.
BUT IT'S LIKE, WE NEED TO GET INTO COUNSELING.
HENLEY SAID EARLIER THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT YOU KNOW AND WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS AND IF WE CAN MAKE A DOLLAR ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
CAUSE IT'S JUST GOING RIGHT BACK TO OUR CITIZENS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT ORDINANCE 19? SEEING DOWN HEARING NONE.
LIGHT DAY FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
[4. GAS & WATER COMMITTEE]
WE ARE NOW READY FOR GAS AND WATER COMMITTEE, CHAIR LADY GUZMAN.I'LL HAVE A REPORT NEXT THURSDAY.
[5. HOUSING & COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE]
WE ARE READY FOR HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.HAVE A REPORT THURSDAY, MAYOR.
[6. PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE]
WE WERE READY FOR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE CHAIR, LADY GUZMAN I'LL HAVE A REPORT NEXT THURSSDAY, MAYOR.[7. PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]
AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.I WILL HAVE A FULL REPORT FOR YOU THURSDAY IN PERSON.
[8. STREETS & GARAGE COMMITTEE]
STREETS AND GARAGE COMMITTEE, CHAIRMAN CHANDLER.FULL REPORT NEXT WEEK AND I WILL BE THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO A RESOLUTION SIR, LISTED UNDER PARKS, PARKS UNDER STREETS AND GARAGE COMMITTEE RESOLUTIONS 23 DAYS 2021, AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH T DOT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 41 80 SOUTH SIDEWALKS.
WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO HANDLE THAT? OR DO YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU? I CAN TELL YOU WE DISCUSSED IT PRETTY MUCH AT LENGTH TODAY AT THE MEETING.
THIS IS HIGHWAY 76 AFTER MCADOO CREEK ROAD, THE STATE PUT THESE SIDEWALKS IN WHEN THEY PUT THEM IN, ALL WE'RE DOING IS AGREEING.
AND OF COURSE THEY'RE PUT IN, LIKE THEY SHOULD BE THEY'RE INSPECTED AND WHATNOT.
AND THEN ONCE THEIR FOOD, WE AGREE THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN THE SIDEWALK FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER WIN, WIN FOR THE CITIZENS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT RESOLUTIONS 23 HEARING NONE.
ANYTHING ELSE? STREETS AND GARAGE COMMITTEE.
[9. TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE]
[01:30:01]
CHAIRMAN CHANDLER.TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, CHAIR LADY SMITH.
OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIR LADY SMITH.
[10. NEW BUSINESS]
UNDER NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE ORDINANCE 29-2020-21.COUNCILMAN CHANDLER, THIS WAS YOURS.
THAT WAS POSTPONED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING.
BE ASKING FOR THAT TO BE WITHDRAWN COMPLETELY.
WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT NEXT WEEK.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ORDINANCE 29? WE WERE READY FOR RESOLUTION 25-2020-21.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS A RESOLUTION 2-20-21.
IT WAS JUST THE SHARING OF AUTOPSY EXPENSES BETWEEN THE CITY AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COUNTY ASKED FOR A LITTLE BIT OF LANGUAGE CHANGED AND IT'S JUST WHERE EITHER PARTY CAN OPT OUT OF THE AGREEMENT WITH, I BELIEVE IT'S 90 DAYS NOTICE, SIR.
AND THAT'S ALL THAT WAS CHANGED WITH...
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION? NUMBER 25, HEARING NONE SEEING NONE.
ANYTHING ELSE? NOTHING ELSE ON NEW BUSINESS
[11. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS]
ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE A COMMENT HEARING? NONE SEEING NONE.[12. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
WE HAD NO REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.SO WE ARE NOW ISLE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
HAVE A GREAT DAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.